DNA=Music? Any truth in this?

[SusanB-M1]

The following quote comes from this link: http://www.ajna.com/articles/forum_members_articles/sound_intention_andhealing.php which is, I hasten to add, a WOO one. It came from another MB and contains references to String Theory which I find very interesting so put it aside to look at later. I just wonder is there any scientific proof of DNA-music link or is this all mumbo-jumbo? Thanks.

This is not the place to provide a full treatment of the science of quantum bioholography. Rather, I wish to emphasize that according to this model that is attracting many proponents as more and more of its precepts are confirmed, it is becoming apparent that DNA directs cellular metabolism and replication not just biochemically but electromagnetically through a chromosomal mechanism that translates sound into light waves, and vice versa. Sound and light, or phonons and photons, establish a sophisticated communication network throughout the physical organism that extends into the bioenergy fields and back to the cellular and subcellular levels.

[logical muse]

DNA=Music? Any truth in this?
No.



eta: Hmm.. Maybe I should stick to lurking.

[blutoski]

The following quote comes from this link: http://www.ajna.com/articles/forum_members_articles/sound_intention_andhealing.php which is, I hasten to add, a WOO one. It came from another MB and contains references to String Theory which I find very interesting so put it aside to look at later. I just wonder is there any scientific proof of DNA-music link or is this all mumbo-jumbo? Thanks.

You'd have to ask the author if he has evidence, since he's the one making the claim.

[c4ts]

DNA doesn't equal music, but I have seen websites where someone translated genetic code into music with computer programs. The results are pretty aytonal. Can't remember what it was, except it was on Portal of Evil last year.

[Loss Leader]

It would appear to be complete nonsense.

[skoob]

This is not the place to provide a full treatment of the science of quantum bioholography.Fair enough. So, what is the proper place for a full treatment of the sciense of quantum bioholography? And more importantly, what is "quantum bioholography"?

[fuelair]

Fair enough. So, what is the proper place for a full treatment of the sciense of quantum bioholography? And more importantly, what is "quantum bioholography"?

There is none, as there is no such subject in the real science world. Quantum, for scientific purposes, has to do with a portion of the structure/function/action of certain subatomic particles that has no observable effect on the non subatomic world. And, determining (a big problem in itself given part of the meaning of Quantum) effects needed to support the load of something material and stinky that is described as quantum bioholography (life images produced by here or there but I don't know which electrons) is not a rational study area at this point.:rolleyes: :jaw-dropp

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

This is not the place to provide a full treatment of the science of quantum bioholography.
This demands a paraphrase of my first sig quote.

~~ Paul

[Windom]

<...>that extends into the bioenergy fields and back to the cellular and subcellular levels.

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Bioenergy fields says everything. Especially, that it is b-u-l-l-s-h-i-t

[fuelair]

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Bioenergy fields says everything. Especially, that it is b-u-l-l-s-h-i-t

In all fairness, bioenergy exists and is measurable in several forms. It just has nothing to do with the blatant pseudoscience under discussion.

[c4ts]

"Quantum bioholography?"

What? A how much of the way a drawing of the whole thing is alive?

[Windom]

In all fairness, bioenergy exists and is measurable in several forms. It just has nothing to do with the blatant pseudoscience under discussion.

Fairness is not enough. Scientific sources would do :)

In wikipedia Bioenergy redirects to Biofuel, I suppose this is not what you mean. First ten Google results on bioenergy are about biofuel too.

[fuelair]

Fairness is not enough. Scientific sources would do :)

In wikipedia Bioenergy redirects to Biofuel, I suppose this is not what you mean. First ten Google results on bioenergy are about biofuel too.

That is correct for non-internal purposes. However, the energy created/released by heat from chemical reactions in the body is bioenergy (by default), the electrical impulses that travel through the nerves are bioenergy. There is nothing occult/WOO about this and the processes are very well known even at the high school level. If your argument is that both are really examples of chemical energy, can't deny it - but they are chemical reactions occuring in a biological system to advance the "purposes" of that system (survival, ability to react to surroundings) thus bioenergy. No relation to the nut stuff like bioholo etc. which is a different thing altogether - and still involves chemical. By the by, if you get real fussy about it, all reactions of matter that are non nuclear are chemical at some level so unless you want to leave reactions as chemical based or nuclear based, bioenergy is a perfectly descriptive of the body produced/transferred/changed energy,

[Windom]

Well OK if you call that bioenergy - no complains. I'm not sure if this term is used in science (any sources...?) but thats besides the point. "Bioenergy" in pseudoscience is a common word which means er... umm... well... some energy which is err... bio :D And makes living things living :D And energethical vampires can drain your bioenergy :) And some say, bioenergy comes from Cosmos and/or God :eye-poppi And especially bioenergy fields. Are there any bioenergy fields in a way you mean?

[fuelair]

Well OK if you call that bioenergy - no complains. I'm not sure if this term is used in science (any sources...?) but thats besides the point. "Bioenergy" in pseudoscience is a common word which means er... umm... well... some energy which is err... bio :D And makes living things living :D And energethical vampires can drain your bioenergy :) And some say, bioenergy comes from Cosmos and/or God :eye-poppi And especially bioenergy fields. Are there any bioenergy fields in a way you mean?
Only in the (very loose) sense that you can measure the electrical output near the surface of the body with sensitive instruments - but that is true of anything with an electrical field not completely insulated - and there is nothing supernatural about it - no more so than the field around a current carrying wire or a magnet. It's not like the Kirlian photography/aura crap - just very weak electricity.

[CriticalThanking]

I have a sketch done by an offspring of the Rodale family (of Rodale Press fame in the US). It is titled "Scherzo in D & A." Drawn on a set of music staff pages, it shows fish swimming alongside what appear to be double helix strands of DNA. As the graphics twist across the pages, the fish become more birdlike and the strands become "ribbons" of piano keyboards. I will try to post a pic later.

CT

ETA: hah! Here is a link to another sketch (http://www.web.virginia.edu/Heidi/chapter12/chp12.htm) in the series. Google fu!

[kittykatkarma]

Sci-Fi movie ~ Mission to Mars (2000) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0183523/) ~ repeating pattern had to be completed to get into the "face" on mars. The sound (music) was not too pleasing to the ear.

[Zygar]

quantum bioholography - Arnold Rimmer from the show Red Dwarf, particularly once composed of "hard light"


;)

[Dazed]

Any sequence of anything can be music, if you assign differing tones to the differing components.

This guy turned the orbits of the planets into music:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~matt/220a/hw3.htm

Oh... you meant literally...

Well its a cute theory.

[SusanB-M1]

Many thanks for all the interesting comments and explanations. I'll read them all through again tomorrow and send a comment to the website and come back to this topic if by any chance I get a response.

[c4ts]

Any sequence of anything can be music, if you assign differing tones to the differing components.

This guy turned the orbits of the planets into music:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~matt/220a/hw3.htm

Oh... you meant literally...

Well its a cute theory.

Forget him when there's Holst!

[Big Les]

You can now send your own DNA to a pillock (http://tjmitchell.com//yourdnasong/index.html) offering to make music out of it.

There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding over the use of translation as an educational tool, and the idea of "hidden music" encoded in our DNA, implying some sort of intelligent design idea.

[Ron_Tomkins]

This woo seems to support the basic ¨Surprise-me¨ notion that artists are some sort of freaks of nature who were born with a special gift that other ¨more normal¨ people do not share. I think that such notion is typical of people who are easily persuaded by woo and ¨magic tricks¨.

Music, as any other form of art, is an abstraction. Such abstraction has a value thats directly proportional to the cultural guidelines that us, human beings have created. Therefore, if we think that pink squares with perfectly straight lines are a work of art, then anyone who has developed the skill to draw them, is an artist. And people who can do it from a very early age are child prodigies with a special gift from God. Perhaps they were sent to this planet with a message of peace of love. Liking it? Sounds familiar? But in the end, it´s nothing but BS. We create a language, we create the rules, and then we create the Heroes and thus, the Antiheroes.

But ironically, in every form of art that has existed, we have had the Child Prodigies and then we have had the Enfant Terribles. So after decades of artists who draw perfectly straight pink squares, this crazy guy comes up and draws a purple rectangle. At first there are many scandals but after a while, he´s gradually accepted to be part of society and near his death, even a cult is developed. The cult of the people who draw purple rectangles, which speaks for their ideology: An ideology of a world that isnt necesarily square, but it´s more flexible. Also, the color purple represents the variety of colours and the interracial relationships which come from human rights.

No, I dont think there is any DNA code for special ¨talented¨ child prodiges who paint perfectly even pink squares. Yes, the same goes for music, arquitecture, quantum physics and biology.