AlQueda Warns US Muslims to Leave the Country

[SteveGrenard]

Posted with following disclaimer from original report:

The authenticity of the tape could not be verified.

This is also presented as a joint AlQueda-Taliban communication.





The centre of gravity of terrorism has shifted from Al Qaeda to Taleban,’ Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf said in September.

In one example, a Taleban leader with links to Al Qaeda warned Thursday of an imminent attack in the United States and urged Muslims to leave as soon as possible, according to a senior Muslim cleric in Islamabad.

Jamal Ismail, the director of the Islamabad-based Al Quds information centre, told AFP by telephone that the warning was issued by Mullah Maasoum Afghani, a senior Taleban leader.

‘(I say to) the Muslim inhabitants of America ... Leave America at a great speed. Allah’s punishment will hit it,’ said Afghani in the statement, which Ismail claimed was phoned in by Afghani himself and recorded at the centre.

The authenticity of the tape could not be verified.

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/subcontinent/2006/October/subcontinent_October174.xml&section=subcontinent

[Darth Rotor]

Posted with following disclaimer from original report:

The authenticity of the tape could not be verified.

This is also presented as a joint AlQueda-Taliban communication.

How nice. Neo Nazis, white nationalists, and other sundry bigots want Muslims out of the US, all of them.

And Al Q wants it too.

Strange bedfellows, or kindred spirits?

DR

[Whoracle]

If they all left the country, the guys left behind to carry out an attack would stick out like a sore thumb...

Of course all the ones that get offended by everything are more than welcome to move to Iran or Saudi Arabia where they wouldn't have to worry about that anymore.

[steverino]

Who will run the convenience shops? :p

OK I'm a sundry bigot.

[Polaris]

How nice. Neo Nazis, white nationalists, and other sundry bigots want Muslims out of the US, all of them.

And Al Q wants it too.

Strange bedfellows, or kindred spirits?

DR

Kinda like when the KKK and the Garvey-ites found themselves bemuddlingly (is that even a word?) on the same page in the early 1900s. They both wanted the blacks the hell out of America.

Glad they didn't get their wish, or my evening last Sunday would have been very boring. :D

[steverino]

Kinda like when the KKK and the Garvey-ites found themselves bemuddlingly (is that even a word?) on the same page in the early 1900s. They both wanted the blacks the hell out of America.

Glad they didn't get their wish, or my evening last Sunday would have been very boring. :D

Um, you're saying you had a sex-slave? Do tell.;) Jah Love.

[slingblade]

The authenticity of the tape could not be verified.


Then what is there to talk about?

[Zep]

Just a sec... Me and my brother want to publish an unverified Al-Quaeda tape too. Where do we send them, Steve?

[gtc]

OK I'm a sundry bigot.

You made me spill my squishee.

[gtc]

Just a sec... Me and my brother want to publish an unverified Al-Quaeda tape too. Where do we send them, Steve?

Does it involve nudity?

If so, send it to me.

If not, then CNN or Al-Jazeera will be fine.

[Polaris]

Um, you're saying you had a sex-slave? Do tell.;) Jah Love.

No...but she did.

[CFLarsen]

Posted with following disclaimer from original report:

The authenticity of the tape could not be verified.

This is also presented as a joint AlQueda-Taliban communication.

If it can't be verified, why should we pay attention? Why do you pay attention?

Have you sunk so low in your racist agenda that you will use whatever you can to attack Muslims?

[Huntster]

Just a sec... Me and my brother want to publish an unverified Al-Quaeda tape too. Where do we send them, Steve?

CBS.

[pipelineaudio]

If it can't be verified, why should we pay attention? Why do you pay attention?

Have you sunk so low in your racist agenda that you will use whatever you can to attack Muslims?

which race is muslims again?

[CFLarsen]

which race is muslims again?

Steve changes between Arabs and Muslims.

[Darat]

...snip...

Of course all the ones that get offended by everything are more than welcome to move to Iran or Saudi Arabia where they wouldn't have to worry about that anymore.

Oh I think they would - after all Saudi Arabia is not an Islamic state and if you remember Bin Laden's original "issues" stem from the fact that he was rather unhappy with his country of birth...

[Darat]

which race is muslims again?

How Steve uses the term is to identify all Muslims as belonging to a single group, which is how the term "race" is defined in the UK "Race Relations" legislation i.e. "...group of persons defined by reference to colour, race, nationality or ethnic or national origins, ..." so in the UK we consider bigotry against say Judaism as racism.

Since the term "race" is a culturally determined definition not an objectively determined term then there will be disagreements on what constitutes racism - if it helps when you see me using the word "racism" in relation to some comments made by Steve read it as "anti-Muslim bigotry".

[Huntster]

Oh I think they would - after all Saudi Arabia is not an Islamic state...

Come again?

It may not be recognized as a theocracy, but "the kingdom" is the location of both Mecca and Medina, as well as the home of Wahhabism. Islam is the central focus of life in Saudi Arabia.

....if you remember Bin Laden's original "issues" stem from the fact that he was rather unhappy with his country of birth...

And they're not too happy with him, either.

Funny how "jihad" works, isn't it?

[Darat]

Come again?

It may not be recognized as a theocracy, but "the kingdom" is the location of both Mecca and Medina, as well as the home of Wahhabism. Islam is the central focus of life in Saudi Arabia.



Sorry if I wasn't clear - my post was attempting a humorous response by mixing in a bit of fact (i.e. it is Kingdom and is ruled ruthlessly by a royal family - who do happen to be Muslim even if they do seem to forget that fact when they are staying in one of their Kensington apartments) and adding in the fact that Bin Laden isn't too pleased that it is not a theocracy ruled ruthlessly by him.



And they're not too happy with him, either.

Funny how "jihad" works, isn't it?

Oh I don't know, he's a very good bogeyman for the Saudi royal family and they are not known for caring that much about the ordinary people so the fact that the groups he "inspires" kill a few dozen Saudis now and then isn't going to bother them. Especially since it gives them a good excuse with the outside world to round up a few hundred dissidents terrorists who can just conveniently disappear.

[Huntster]

.........he's a very good bogeyman for the Saudi royal family and they are not known for caring that much about the ordinary people so the fact that the groups he "inspires" kill a few dozen Saudis now and then isn't going to bother them. Especially since it gives them a good excuse with the outside world to round up a few hundred dissidents terrorists who can just conveniently disappear.

I don't know that democracy would work much better there. In fact, it might end up worse for all.

Many have condemned the U.S. for tolerating Saddam for decades before the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, just like they condemn the U.S. for maintaining ties to the royal house of Saud.

As long as the Saudis don't invade allies, don't reward terrorism, and they keep order (especially since their real estate includes Mecca and Medina), I wish them well.

[Skeptic]

MAD magazine wrote about this in the 1960s. It wrote how "black power" radicals want seperate schools (which is what the KKK wants)... and seperate neighborhood (which is what the KKK wants)... and seperate cultures (which is what the KKK wants)... and concludes that "it's good to know that whites and blacks can work together towards the same cause".

[Huntster]

MAD magazine wrote about this in the 1960s. It wrote how "black power" radicals want seperate schools (which is what the KKK wants)... and seperate neighborhood (which is what the KKK wants)... and seperate cultures (which is what the KKK wants)... and concludes that "it's good to know that whites and blacks can work together towards the same cause".

Islamic fundamentalism runs in degrees like all other human fads. Some of them go all the way (including "kill the infidal"), some just want to live their Islamic life away from Western decadence, and some want to drive taxis in Washington DC.

For those who want to live apart, I say "go with Allah."

For those who want to drive taxis in Washington DC, I'll watch the meter.

For those who want to "kill the infidal", kill them instead.

[TragicMonkey]

I would have thought that real al-Qaeda types would reserve extra hatred for Muslims in America, for collaborating with all our filthy evil and stuff.

[Skeptic]

some want to drive taxis in Washington DC.

Makes sense. Muhammad's day job, after all--before he decided he is God's prophet--was a caravan driver. Since then, Muslims were good in driving people where they want to go for a living...

[Huntster]

.....Since then, Muslims were good in driving people where they want to go for a living...

I've riden in DC taxis. I wouldn't say they "were good in driving people where they want to go."

[Skeptic]

(Okay, I can't resist)

Somewhere in the Arabian desert, ca. 590 A.D.:

--"Muhammad, I don't know where you think you've driven my caravan, but Mecca this isn't."
--"Er... me no speak good Arabic... me come from other country..."

[Huntster]

(Okay, I can't resist)

Somewhere in the Arabian desert, ca. 590 A.D.:

--"Muhammad, I don't know where you think you've driven my caravan, but Mecca this isn't."
--"Er... me no speak good Arabic... me come from other country..."

:D

[BPSCG]

For those who want to drive taxis in Washington DC, I'll watch the meter.You'll be wasting your time: (http://www.dcpages.com/Travel/Reviews/taxi.shtml)
While cabs in VA and MD operate on a metered system of charging, Washington's cabs determine fares by the zone system. Zone divisions start from the heart of North-West Washington, which constitutes Zone 1 bounded by U St., Florida Ave., 2nd St., E St., and 22nd St. From there, the 8 zones and their 23 subzone divisions radiate outward in a semi-circular arrangement. Since the mileage covered by the radiating zones increases, subzones divide zones to better correspond fares to mileage.

You can alleviate your zone anxieties by noting you won't watch your money tick away on a cab. s meter as you sit in traffic. Instead, the zone system operates on a law of averages. If your cab ride is confined to Zone 1 or a subzone of Zones 2 thru 8, you. ll only pay the base fare of $4.00. Crossing subzone or zone borders incurs an additional charge of approximately $1.50 for each additional border.

Based on this pricing system, some trips you can travel a good distance all within the boundaries of a single zone for a cheap $4.00. On the down side, other trips can be shorter yet cross a zone border for an additional charge. Based on the District's law of averages, all your trips over a period of time should even out to the equivalent cost of metered fares. Often, fares governed by the zone system work out less.Savvy taxi riders in DC know where the zone boundaries are and will have a taxi drop them off a few blocks from their destination if it means not crossing into another zone.

[Darat]

You'll be wasting your time: (http://www.dcpages.com/Travel/Reviews/taxi.shtml)
Savvy taxi riders in DC know where the zone boundaries are and will have a taxi drop them off a few blocks from their destination if it means not crossing into another zone.

Hmm... I suppose in a city with a large number of bureaucrats and politicians this all seems quite simple and reasonable.... :)

[TragicMonkey]

Hmm... I suppose in a city with a large number of bureaucrats and politicians this all seems quite simple and reasonable.... :)

They drained a swamp to build the place, and it's gone downhill since.

[brodski]

Hmm... I suppose in a city with a large number of bureaucrats and politicians this all seems quite simple and reasonable.... :)

Watch it...