Would this count...

[mrfreeze]

As a threat against the President? I'm pretty sure it does, but wouldn't know how to contact the proper people.

Finding out all the ways that the government uses agents to provoke comments that allow arrest based upon treason and conspiracy, I have never, and will never talk about armed revolution. I suggest that you all edit any quote that promotes violent overthrow.

I know what to do when the time comes. I hope that you all know what you will do when "The time" comes.

that's all I'm going to say.

In a country where Bush admits that 14,000 people are in overseas detention centers being tortured in rendition-style ops... and innocent people are often there for many months... I wont test the limits of "our freedom" with any free language.


I agree. The American people have been brainwashed and lied to enough. It is time we listen to the words of Thomas Jefferson and take back what is ours. I don't know about anyone else but I would love to have Bush on his knees at the wrong end of my .38.

[Anti-sophist]

Without question, on the second one.

The fact that I even posted in this thread means I'm gonna show up on the watch list of the NSA super-computer pattern-rec algorithm tracking all online communications.... but that's ok... Mr. NSA agent, I'm a shill.. if you could put word into section 5, I haven't gotten any checks yet.

[jhunter1163]

You could forward that second one to the FBI. They will most assuredly not be amused.

[Muckar-duva]

A link for you:

https://tips.fbi.gov/

[MWare]

I believe it's the secret service that handles presidential threats:

The United States Secret Service is mandated by statute and executive order to carry out two significant missions: protection and criminal investigations. The Secret Service protects the President and Vice President, their families, heads of state, and other designated individuals; investigates threats against these protectees; protects the White House, Vice President’s Residence, Foreign Missions, and other buildings within Washington, D.C.; and plans and implements security designs for designated National Special Security Events. The Secret Service also investigates violations of laws relating to counterfeiting of obligations and securities of the United States; financial crimes that include, but are not limited to, access device fraud, financial institution fraud, identity theft, computer fraud; and computer-based attacks on our nation’s financial, banking, and telecommunications infrastructure.

http://www.secretservice.gov/mission.shtml

[TK0001]

You could forward that second one to the FBI. They will most assuredly not be amused.

Before doing so, I would make sure he's aware that he just threatened the president on a public forum. Don't bring up the illegality of it, just give him a chance to edit his statement before alerting the authorities.

[Oliver]

Where did this quote come from?

I also would tell this guy he should think about what he said. Another thing would be if all people within a thread would talk this way... :o

Cheers,
Oliver

[jhunter1163]

I believe it's the secret service that handles presidential threats:

The United States Secret Service is mandated by statute and executive order to carry out two significant missions: protection and criminal investigations. The Secret Service protects the President and Vice President, their families, heads of state, and other designated individuals; investigates threats against these protectees; protects the White House, Vice President’s Residence, Foreign Missions, and other buildings within Washington, D.C.; and plans and implements security designs for designated National Special Security Events. The Secret Service also investigates violations of laws relating to counterfeiting of obligations and securities of the United States; financial crimes that include, but are not limited to, access device fraud, financial institution fraud, identity theft, computer fraud; and computer-based attacks on our nation’s financial, banking, and telecommunications infrastructure.

http://www.secretservice.gov/mission.shtml

Actually, I think one would notify the FBI, as they are the investigative arm for threats against the President. FBI would investigate EVERYTHING about this clown down to whether he ever (rule8)ed off behind his grandpa's barn. FBI would then contact the Secret Service and have large unsmiling men pay him a visit, thereby confirming his persecution complex.

[mrfreeze]

You know, I really don't think I want to give the FBI any reason to contact me about anything, due to the fact that it would give my old man a heart attack. Him being a paranoid ex-armchair revolutionary and all. I'm sure from the other people who wrote them about some of the other death threats made on that site that they are well aware of the situation. Guess I have a bit of a paranoid streak myself when it comes to high level law officers.

If someone else feels so inclined and less paranoid, the quotes are from here:
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11800&st=30

[MWare]

The Secret Service protects the President and Vice President, their families, heads of state, and other designated individuals; investigates threats against these protectees;


Actually, I think one would notify the FBI, as they are the investigative arm for threats against the President.

I disagree with that statement based on the my original quote.

[Loss Leader]

I don't believe either of the above quotes constitutes a threat against the President or an incitement to others towards violent acts.

"I would love to have" is a great deal different than "I will have." It isn't even something like, "He better watch out." It's just an expression of a wish with no evidence whatsoever that anyone should feel threatened about anything.

And I will prove it by saying:

Although I have absolutely no intention of harming the President, it is my fondest wish that he be assassinated on Tuesday, November 7, 2006 at 10:14 p.m. as he appears in support of Republican congressional victors; however I personally will never harm the man or assist anyone in doing so.

The statements in the OP and my statement above is not a crime. Weird, yes. Criminal, no.

And since my statement was offered as an attorney giving advice about examples of the types of speech that are allowed in this country, it has an innocent explanation and cannot even serve as probable cause for an investigation. So, suck it, FBI. Suck it hard.

[jhunter1163]

MWare: I stand corrected.

[CurtC]

... it has an innocent explanation and cannot even serve as probable cause for an investigation. So, suck it, FBI. Suck it hard.
Well, they can't come after you for the other stuff, but you're telling the FBI to suck it hard, your butt is so investigated now.

[Loss Leader]

Well, they can't come after you for the other stuff, but you're telling the FBI to suck it hard, your butt is so investigated now.


Oh, it might be the Secret Service that does these types of investigations so they should suck it, too. They should suck it and like it.

[Polaris]

Actually, I think one would notify the FBI, as they are the investigative arm for threats against the President. FBI would investigate EVERYTHING about this clown down to whether he ever (rule8)ed off behind his grandpa's barn. FBI would then contact the Secret Service and have large unsmiling men pay him a visit, thereby confirming his persecution complex.

If they actually do end up investigating this mouse-fart, I figure he'll be so scared ****-less that he won't be talking about it in a hurry.

[LibraryLady]

So, has anyone actually reported it?

We had something happen at the library when Clinton was still president. There were these two kids who hung out there all day long making trouble. They looked at porn online (Marquis, shut up, please) and we had to chase them, they were noisy, they were just two little pains in the butt. About seventeen, eighteen years old.

One day, I walked into another department and saw its manager speaking with two very large men with heavy shoes and grim demeanors. The manager waved me over, and asked me to help describe these two idiots. I did better than that; I said, "Oh, they're in my department right now!" As the two FBI agents turned to go to my department, the two dolts walked in and were taken aside.

It seems they used a computer in the other department to send a threatening email to the president. Within a half hour of the email, the FBI had contacted the library, and within an hour of the email, they were there in person. :eye-poppi

From what I heard, they took the bozos home and met with the parents. We considered them [rule8]ing lucky not to wind up in federal prison. They were, on the other hand, permanently banned from using any branches of our library.

[Loss Leader]

It seems they used a computer in the other department to send a threatening email to the president. Within a half hour of the email, the FBI had contacted the library, and within an hour of the email, they were there in person.

Purists will note that I did not address my comments directly to the President and, in fact, that I did not threaten him with any harm.

LibraryLady, what if they had been quiet and respectful but spent hours reading books on bomb making, studying maps of Washington, and had asked for help finding biographies of famous assasins?

[Oliver]

I thought it might belong in here... :eye-poppi

http://www.freenfun.com/nph-proxy.pl/111110A/http/s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=16662

[Cylinder]

So, has anyone actually reported it?

Done.

Threat against the President

I know it's just a whack-job comment, but I thought you guys might want to track it. This is a 9-11 conspiracy group, so you may want to use an IP that doesn't trace back to the FBI unless you just want to bust their [Rule 8]. :)

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=11800&st=30

Thanks for the good work and feel free to contact me.

Randy

[Dog Town]

I worked with a band called JFA(Jodi Fosters Army) in the 80's. Their logo, on skateboards, t-shirts, etc...was Reagans head overlaid with crosshairs ! The SS checked us out alot, the tour bus, the label, yada yada. They check any possible threat against the POS. Hope they blow his mind. Just cuz you paranoid, don't mean they ain't after ya! Happy hunting...

DT

[LibraryLady]

Purists will note that I did not address my comments directly to the President and, in fact, that I did not threaten him with any harm.

LibraryLady, what if they had been quiet and respectful but spent hours reading books on bomb making, studying maps of Washington, and had asked for help finding biographies of famous assasins?

We would have left them alone, not noticed them, and the FBI wouldn't have tracked them down. My point was that they were stupid little pains in the butt.

[Gravy]

I don't see the threat. How about this: "I hate Bush, and I would love to get that bastard alone in a room and slap some sense into him." Is that a threat? Does it show intent?

Since this kind of "Internet Tough Guy" talk is so prevalent, and since its so easy to report by the legitimately concerned, the spiteful, or the vengeful, I'd be surprised if law enforcement agencies had the desire or the resources to investigate statements of this nature.

[Hellbound]

Gravy,

[Bad John Wayne Impression]
I'm afraid I'm gonna haf to bring you in, pilgrim.
[/Bad John Wayne Impression]

:D

[Gravy]

I've always thought this thread would make a good musical...

I don't rap for dead presidents
I'd rather see the president dead
It's never been said but I set precedents--Eminem

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1997708&postcount=49