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rearnakedchoke
20th October 2006, 11:00 AM
this should be interesting....im no NTSB guru, i havent personally analized the data, nor would i understand it.....but if this is accurate..it looks pretty damaging to the official story..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-Q8nSEeUec
Dave_46
20th October 2006, 11:04 AM
<snip> i havent personally analized the data, <snip>
http://www.colboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=10118
Where did you put it?
jhunter1163
20th October 2006, 11:08 AM
You have to ask after reading his SN?
Anti-sophist
20th October 2006, 11:13 AM
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=66047
The elements of the debunk are contained in my first post, and later down in the thread I deal specifically with the animation.
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=2000894&postcount=28
rearnakedchoke
20th October 2006, 11:23 AM
sorry bout that, the y2k bug must be kicking in..
UnderTow
20th October 2006, 11:37 AM
The elements of the debunk are contained in my first post, and later down in the thread I deal specifically with the animation.
WoHoo :) carefull there Anti_S. Have you really checked yourself?
The AlliedSignal SSFDR and SSCVRs have performed flawlessly with 100% recovery and no errors in the data. In one particular investigation the NTSB started with a download of the SSFDR contents at 9:00 am and by 1:00 pm of that same afternoon a full animation of the final moments of the flight were available for review.
rearnakedchoke
20th October 2006, 11:41 AM
thats gotta sting..
Dog Town
20th October 2006, 11:46 AM
How cute is it, to see JD'oh's droogies, trying to fight his fight? The sound you hear is feet scampering, back to their beloved leader!" What do we say next boss"?
rearnakedchoke
20th October 2006, 12:00 PM
How cute is it, to see JD'oh's droogies, trying to fight his fight? The sound you hear is feet scampering, back to their beloved leader!" What do we say next boss"?
thats rich..
like bush's response to accusations of prior knowledge..
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice2000/art/bushhome.jpg
that's an obserd insinuation
Arkan_Wolfshade
20th October 2006, 12:03 PM
thats rich..
like bush's response to accusations of prior knowledge..
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice2000/art/bushhome.jpg
that's an obserd insinuation
Any reason why you chose not to provide a citation for that quote you are attributing to him?
Anti-sophist
20th October 2006, 12:03 PM
Read the other post. That's a strawman. I've never claimed the FDR had errors. Try again.
If this is the level of your arguments, you've already lost.
Dog Town
20th October 2006, 12:06 PM
thats rich..
like bush's response to accusations of prior knowledge..
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice2000/art/bushhome.jpg
that's an obserd insinuation
What does Bush have to do with y'all, being droogies of JD'oh? Are you on crack? You make NO sense!
rearnakedchoke
20th October 2006, 12:09 PM
What does Bush have to do with y'all, being droogies of JD'oh? Are you on crack? You make NO sense!
yes it does.....you made a comment, i answered it in lord bushs own words to another question, i was simply giving you a background on the quote i used to respond to youre..."obserd insinuation"
starting to get it yet?
rearnakedchoke
20th October 2006, 12:14 PM
Any reason why you chose not to provide a citation for that quote you are attributing to him?
43 seconds..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN85pFwifTc
yes he didnt understand the question, he wasnt being directy asked if he did have prior knowledge, but he thought he was being asked that.....by his answer its obvious.
DavidJames
20th October 2006, 12:16 PM
yes it does.....you made a comment, i answered it in lord bushs own words to another question, i was simply giving you a background on the quote i used to respond to youre..."obserd insinuation"
starting to get it yet?
I would suggest you use less pictures and try to explain yourself in complete sentences. Most of the people here are adults, college educated and many are career professionals.
Dog Town
20th October 2006, 12:17 PM
Ooops!
Dog Town
20th October 2006, 12:19 PM
yes it does.....you made a comment, i answered it in lord bushs own words to another question, i was simply giving you a background on the quote i used to respond to youre..."obserd insinuation"
starting to get it yet?
O' yes... I got it! You still make no sense what so ever! Why do you make Bush your lord?
That is creepy! You've got a real thing for him...huh?
The word you keep getting WRONG is A-B-S-U-R-D!
rearnakedchoke
20th October 2006, 12:20 PM
O' yes... I got it! You still make no sense what so ever! Why do you make Bush your lord?
That is creepy! You've got a real thing for him...huh?
interesting quoting style you have..
you got it, but it still makes no sense to you.....wow, that cleared things up..
back on topic...
this isnt the attack the truf'r thread is it?
Dog Town
20th October 2006, 12:23 PM
interesting quoting style you have..
you got it, but I still make no sense to you.....wow, that cleared things up..
Fixed!
rearnakedchoke
20th October 2006, 12:29 PM
Fixed!
Posts: 982
are they all as informative as that one?
Anti-sophist
20th October 2006, 12:31 PM
http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth/index.php?showtopic=375
Nice troll job. How many message boards did you blanket with this nonsense? Are you hovering in all 8 threads you've spread around the internet trolling like this?
UnderTow
20th October 2006, 12:34 PM
How cute is it, to see JD'oh's droogies, trying to fight his fight? The sound you hear is feet scampering, back to their beloved leader!" What do we say next boss"?
WoW. Just powerfully reasoning and maturity can only orginate from a true Randi. Do you have a drooling problem?
(just working on my post count)
Please keep in mind the Membership Agreement and be civil and polite in your posts.
rearnakedchoke
20th October 2006, 12:45 PM
http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth/index.php?showtopic=375
Nice troll job. How many message boards did you blanket with this nonsense? Are you hovering in all 8 threads you've spread around the internet trolling like this?
arent we all trolls, going around spreading information and stuff?
but thanx for the link, i really liked this little ditty i used..
looks like flght 77 is...BACK AND TO THE LEFT......pun inteded
Anti-sophist
20th October 2006, 12:47 PM
arent we all trolls, going around spreading information and stuff?
That statement is either very deep and philosophical.. or very stupid. I haven't decided which, yet.
UnderTow
20th October 2006, 01:31 PM
WoW. Just powerfully reasoning and maturity can only orginate from a true Randi. Do you have a drooling problem?
(just working on my post count)
Please keep in mind the Membership Agreement and be civil and polite in your posts.
WoW ? :blink:
Those Randi eyes are surely looking at me very hard hey? I'll be sure to carry about my 'civil and polite' stick where ever I go now. /sigh
post 16 and counting
Have a nice weekend all. /peace
ktesibios
20th October 2006, 01:54 PM
CTers:
Is your confusion about the term "error" as applied to the recovery of raw data from a digital recording system and the term "error" as applied to making false assumptions about the accuracy and resolution of the .csv file the product of ignorance or of mendacity?
Just asking questions, y'know. ;)
UnderTow
20th October 2006, 02:00 PM
Nice loaded question. You are in "error". :D
(hey, I'm supposed to be leaving. drat. okay, have a nice weekend all (again))
/18
rearnakedchoke
20th October 2006, 02:01 PM
I would suggest you use less pictures and try to explain yourself in complete sentences. Most of the people here are adults, college educated and many are career professionals.well im neither..i wasnt aware of the guidlines..if a collage degree and a professional background is manditory i fear i must gracefully back down and delete my account here...
but if it is not a requirement, then i suppose others will adapt to my low inteligence, but hey, us humans are patiant creatures right?
Anti-sophist
20th October 2006, 02:03 PM
loaded question
You use that term, but I do not think you know what it means. His premise wasn't erronously implied. You have, already, stated your misconception about what errors we are talking about. The question wasn't loaded.
UnderTow
20th October 2006, 02:10 PM
Is your confusion
Load #1
making false assumptions
Load #2
product of ignorance or of mendacity?
Load #3
No?
Anti-sophist
20th October 2006, 02:13 PM
You've already proven your confusion, sorry. You seem to claim I was claiming error in the FDR. That is not accurate, at all, thus, you were confused.
The rest were not part of the premise of the question, therefore do not make the question loaded. Again, you do not know what a loaded question actually means, and you are misusing the term.
DavidJames
20th October 2006, 03:03 PM
rearnakedchoke:
Here is my quote, verbatim: I would suggest you use less pictures and try to explain yourself in complete sentences. Most of the people here are adults, college educated and many are career professionals.
Now look at your reply. I've highlighted words which you used in reference to my suggestion.
well im neither..i wasnt aware of the guidlines..if a collage degree and a professional background is manditory i fear i must gracefully back down and delete my account here...
but if it is not a requirement, then i suppose others will adapt to my low inteligence, but hey, us humans are patiant creatures right?
I saw in another thread that reading comprehension was challenging for you so, I'm not surprised by your response. Please stick around, I think you can learn a lot here. I know I have. I'm not ashamed to admit that the older I get and more I learn, the more I realize I have yet to learn.
Good spelling, grammer, puncuation and sentence constructions are neither guidelines nor mandatory but can be helpful getting your message across unless, of course, your message is "I'm an idiot".
But feel free to continue posting as you feel comfortable.
beachnut
20th October 2006, 03:36 PM
this should be interesting....im no NTSB guru, i havent personally analized the data, nor would i understand it.....but if this is accurate..it looks pretty damaging to the official story..
and why would this video with the dumb pilot remakes not support what happen on 9/11?
It does not even show the final seconds, and at what appears to be the pilot pushing the stick forward if you had the raw data, the plane is about to hit the ground in a few seconds, which fits with the data presented on utube video.
So how is more evidence from 9/11, from a FDR found in the Pentagon bad for what happen on 9/11?
It seems it is bad only to those few people who make up statements and try to mislead. It exposes the people who try to spread some CT about 9/11 and how there is a cover up by thousands of people.
When the FDR release actually backs up the eye witnesses, the radar witnesses and the C-130 flight crew, and the wreckage in the pentagon.
Logic, FDR from pentagon matches the flight path of flight 77 seconds before impact. But your logic goes, cute statement on top of NTSB video damage "official" story.
You are leaving out major steps of evidence to prove your point and cute statements of why did the terrorist turn instead of doing a 25 degree dive into the pentagon are just talk!
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