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Bell
23rd October 2006, 05:20 PM
You might even find some more of that non-existent concrete in some of these photos.
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/6036.jpg
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/5456.jpg
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/5392.jpg
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/4153.jpg
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/5457.jpg
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/3997.jpg
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negativ
23rd October 2006, 06:20 PM
Dude, nanobots are awesome.
That's the most realistice explanation I can think of.
CurtC
23rd October 2006, 09:53 PM
You might even find some more of that non-existent concrete in some of these photos.
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/6036.jpg
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/5456.jpg
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/5392.jpg
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/4153.jpg
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/5457.jpg
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/3997.jpg
Obviously, since the videos show that 100% of the concrete was pulverized while it was still falling, these photos just show that the concrete powder re-clumped together into chunks later, probably by heat left over from the hydrogen bombs and molten steel.
Arkan_Wolfshade
23rd October 2006, 09:56 PM
What evidence can you provide to substantiate your claims that does not rely on subjective interpretation?
Truthseeker1234, please respond to my query. If you can not, or will not, present objective, verifiable evidence; then there is no point in continued conversation with you.
beachnut
23rd October 2006, 11:24 PM
There would be desks, and file cabinets.
We don't see anything like that.Even if the concrete somehow disintegrated, the steel floor pans would be stacked up. THere is simply no mechanism in your gravity collapse to explain the disintegration of the towers. So you rely on closeups of the mounds of dust, which only further confirm that the buildings were blown to kingdom come.
desk and file cabinets dropped from 1300 feet, or hit by 5,000 tons per floor of junk, from 1300 feet, from 1290 feet, each floor was 5,000 tons of junk, you only have 110 floors falling from 10 feet to 1300 feet take your pick. What would they look like?
The gravity collapse of the WTC towers is the mechanism of the disintegration you see at the WTC. All you have to do is calculate the energy as in Energy=Mass times gravity times height
it is a big number, and it is the mechanism of destruction. simple energy makes a big mess
LashL
23rd October 2006, 11:49 PM
Obviously, since the videos show that 100% of the concrete was pulverized while it was still falling, these photos just show that the concrete powder re-clumped together into chunks later, probably by heat left over from the hydrogen bombs and molten steel.
Obviously.
;)
Ripley Twenty-Nine
24th October 2006, 11:06 AM
Yes, it will shatter. Correct. I'm looking for all that shattered concrete. It's not there. It turned into powder and was expelled across all of lower Manhattan before it ever had a chance to hit the ground and shatter.
You like pictures, right?
Can you look at this picture and tell me where some of the other steel and concrete might be? Have you ever been to Ground Zero and saw how deep it actually goes below ground level (And obviously this is not to scale)?
http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_4890453e462bdabe5.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=2197)
Anything? No?
azazal
24th October 2006, 01:49 PM
When the event is over, we observe shredded steel strewn about upon a vast field of dust. JREF members have shown pictures of rescue efforts and such that show pieces of concrete that escaped disintegration. My generous estimates are that these pictures show 200 tons, total. Tops. That would be 1/10th of 1%, using the figure 200,000 tons of concrete.
Was skimming the thread on saw this. Just checking to see if TS bothered with the math.
From here: Desnsity of Concrete (http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/KatrinaJones.shtml)
Average concrete has a mass of 2300 kg/m3. 200 tons = 400000 lbs = 181436.9 kg. Dividing 181436.9 by 2300 we get 78.89 1 meter cubes of concrete. Taking the cub of that we get a giant cube that is 4.289 meters a side. Of for those of us in the US, that's 14.07 feet a side. So if TS can show that all of that concrete debris can fit into a single 15x15x15 foot cube, I'll be pretty darn impressed.
uk_dave
24th October 2006, 01:50 PM
You like pictures, right?
Can you look at this picture and tell me where some of the other steel and concrete might be? Have you ever been to Ground Zero and saw how deep it actually goes below ground level (And obviously this is not to scale)?
[/URL][URL]http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_4890453e462bdabe5.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=2197)
Anything? No?
Do you do nudes too?
:D
Horatius
24th October 2006, 01:57 PM
Was skimming the thread on saw this. Just checking to see if TS bothered with the math.
....
So if TS can show that all of that concrete debris can fit into a single 15x15x15 foot cube, I'll be pretty darn impressed.
Trust me, TS hates math. And cubes, I think...
Ripley Twenty-Nine
25th October 2006, 11:33 AM
Do you do nudes too?
:D
The most amazing stick men and women you've ever seen. Would bring a tear to your eye.
;)
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