Things You'll Never Hear a 9/11 CTist Say...

[DavidJames]

I'm just not smart enough or qualified to know for sure, lets talk to an expert in that field.
I just read the NIST report. Here is my expert analysis of why page x, paragraph y is wrong.
I know that's what it looks like, but I'd like to see an analysis.
This is very important, I'm going to take my analysis to the (police/mainstream media/insurance companies/etc), instead of just anonymously posting on an Internet forum.
Ask Questions, Research for Answers
Yeah, coincidences do happen.

[jujigatami]

Things You'll Never Hear a 9/11 CTist Say...I have evidence.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

"I'm sorry."

[kookbreaker]

Maybe I should look further by studying the science and not just reading what fellow conspiracy theorists tell me.

Gosh! Offfice fires really can get hot. Wow!

I guess WTC7 isn't such a big mystery after all. Thank you engineers of the world.

My physics degree really doesn't qualify me to make engineering judgements.

[Crungy]

"I'm really not a pilot."

[Pardalis]

"I'm sorry."

In the same vein: "Oh, geez, I was wrong. Sorry."

[Donal]

My philosophy degree really doesn't qualify me to make judgements on engineering, law enforcement procedure, military procedure, etc etc. I'd be better off consulting with actual professionals in these fields than running with my own accusations.


Maybe Alex Jones isn't right afterall.

[LashL]

No, of course I don't expect to see acre-sized slabs, with a rectangular hole, like giant square donuts, 220 of them, among the debris pile.

[Bell]

"ur all smart ppl & im rly dum"

[beachnut]

I will be receiving the Pulitzer Prize for exposing 9/11 truth

I graduated from High School (charlie sheen types only)

[jskowron]

Metaphors, similes, and colloquialisms shouldn't be taken literally.

[Pardalis]

"Muslim extremists did it"

[Donal]

Maybe a structural engineer has a better grasp on how a building would collapse than Charlie Sheen would.

[Bell]

The joooz didn't do it.

[Doubt]

"I just opened up a dictionary and found out that glowing hot metal which is solid is not the same thing as molten metal!"

[Sword_Of_Truth]

"When you put it that way, it does sound a little silly."

[Pardalis]

"When you put it that way, it does sound a little silly."

LOL

[Cylinder]

When I said footprint, I meant to say 16-acre footprint.

[Enlightenment]

"I didn't get my facts from Rense.com"

[Taarkin]

Now that you have defeated one of my arguments, I will be sure to not use that argument again as though nothing ever happened.

[Bell]

Let me put that quote into proper context.

[realitybites]

I'm taking all of this undisputed evidence of an inside job to the authorities!

[kookbreaker]

Maybe if I stop screaming and calling folks 'sheeple' they will become more sympathetic to my cause.

[kookbreaker]

Holy Crap! American Free Press is full of anti-semtic gibberish! Maybe I should stop using it as source material.

[jujigatami]

Nah, I don't need another bong hit, I've had enough.

[Dragon]

I'd be really happy if you could prove me wrong.

[PerryLogan]

Hey, wait a minute! Everyone is laughing at us!

Of course, there are two sides to every story.

Well, aren't we all really "government shills"?

Am I stupid, or what?

Perry Logan is God.

[realitybites]

Media reports from the day after the attacks shouldn't be quoted as gospel.

[Garb]

I am not paranoid.

[Pipirr]

You're right, mum and dad. It's time I moved out of the basement.

[kookbreaker]

Geez, what that guys said was just plain whacked. Where do we get these guys?

[John Blonn]

"Asking questions alone is meaningless. Here's my theory about what happened on 9/11."

[Garb]

This time I'm not going to just speculate.

[PerryLogan]

I apologize to everyone I falsely accused of complicity in mass murder. I've been an irresponsible assh*le.

[JamesB]

Maybe South Park was right? We really are retards...

[chipmunk stew]

One world, one government.

S**t happens.

Never attribute to evil intentions that which can readily be explained by ignorance, stupidity, or ineptitude.

Large group dynamics are so complex, it's ridiculous to think that anyone's in control at the top.

What would we do without our experts and political leaders?

I'm going with the simpler hypothesis.

There's a very good chance that the fact I'm surrounded by assorted kooks and moonbats means I'm one, too.

That's pretty conclusive evidence. What a relief! I hated the thought that Bush might be a devil-worshipping illuminatus!

[Bell]

Who brought up Northwood in the first place?

[realitybites]

I think I'd like to take Abby out on a date. She's really nice and has certainly got her stuff together.

[Gravy]

If I'm ever arrested for a serious crime, I sure hope the prosecutor uses the same standards of evidence that I do!

[JamesB]

You know, it is entirely possible that people who disagree with us may honestly believe that, they are probably not all paid CIA agents.

[jskowron]

Hey librarian, could you tell me where to find the peer reviewed journals

[Bell]

Indeed, that is a steel column core. Not a 3" rebar centered 4' and coated with C4 using Cold War self destruction technology concrete core. Build by Mohawks. From which there is no documented evidence.

*d'oh*

[PerryLogan]

Maybe I should pay my traffic fines.

Dear Mr. Structural Engineer...

[Crungy]

"These black tee shirts make us look real creepy."

[Bell]

Maybe I should pay my traffic fines.

Dear Mr. Structural Engineer...

:dl:

[Triterope]

"I don't have time to go protest at the WTC site, I've got an important high-wage professional job to get to."

"Most of the serial numbers of items used in the attacks don't add up to anything meaningful."

"I do think 9/11 was an inside job, but the JFK assassination was a lone gunman, and the moon landings were obviously real."

"My parents are really proud of me."

"I'm thankful to live in a country that allows me to fully express my own beliefs about 9/11."

"I don't have any background in explosives/physics/aviation/construction, so I'll defer to the judgment of people who've studied it their whole lives."

"I'm sorry that you disagree with my 9/11 evidence, but I respect your right to have a differing opinion."

"Whew! I'm so busy, I don't have free time for anything!"

"Before I post this conspiracy question on an Internet forum, maybe I should do a web search to see if it's been addressed already."

"This is the first really crazy thing I've ever believed."

"I am over the age of 24, I don't have a radio show, I'm not a tenured professor, and my psychologist says I'm perfectly healthy."

[PerryLogan]

Thank you, officer.

Guess I'll read this book.

[Pardalis]

"My sincere apologies madam McClatchey."

[Brainster]

It's not enough to just watch videos. I suggest reading this book.

[Blutarsky]

That's too crazy to believe...

[fuelair]

"ur all smart ppl & im rly dum"

Beautiful - though I am certain peedee will never, ever.......:D

[Gravy]

Of course I can name a claim that Loose Change gets right.

[Bell]

Of course Gravy can name a claim that Loose Change gets wrong.

[Gravy]

I followed up on all that evidence you presented the other day. Here's what I found....

[Pardalis]

"I'm letting my hatred of Bush get the better of me."

[Gravy]

Here's a list of buildings that were demolished with explosives after being heavily damaged and burning for hours.

[Bell]

Cut down on the smilies, please.

[Pardalis]

"I confess, I don't know what the hell I'm talking about."

[Gravy]

It's also important to read the footnotes.

Remember that the Executive Summaries are only summaries. The meat of the evidence is in the other 9,500 pages.

[Gravy]

I abhor people who take eyewitness accounts of tragic events out of context.

[Gravy]

Real investigations take time.

[Pardalis]

"I could be wrong"

[qarnos]

I think I'd like to take Abby out on a date. She's really nice and has certainly got her stuff together.

Hmmm... I think there's a song parody here...

"Korey Rowe and Abby Scott" to the tune of Dire Straits' "Romeo and Juliette" :D

[Pardalis]

"I've been wrong 280 times? Really? Geez, I must think next time before I post!"

[Pardalis]

"OH! I get it!"

[Pardalis]

"That's not me on my avatar, Pardalis"

[Skibum]

"I'm going to be spending a lot less time here at conspiracy central, I've got a girlfriend and she's real this time."

[qarnos]

Holy crap - you're right! There isn't a concrete core!

[snagswolf]

"I'm proud to accept the Nobel Prize in Physics."

[Pardalis]

"OK, I admit it, I'm really not interested in the truth. I just want so badly for it to be an inside job."

[Bell]

Ofcourse I will apologize to NYPDFrank for pissing on his sister's grave.

[Bell]

Here's the sixpack I still owned you, Gravy.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

"Jenna Bush is H-A-W-T!"

[Brainster]

If a Muslim fanatic ever pulled a boxcutter on me, I'd probably soil my pants and beg for mercy.

Oh, Airfones? Never mind.

[Bell]

You are joking about keebler elves, right?

[Pardalis]

"My intent is always to discuss and learn."

Oh, wait...

[PerryLogan]

What a BUCKET OF PUS that Alex Jones is!

[uk_dave]

What a BUCKET OF PUS that Alex Jones is!

Harsh perry, harsh

At least buckets of pus are silent

well...mostly.

:sour:

[Pardalis]

"This megaphone is really just a substitute for my absence of manlyhood."

[Taarkin]

I'd like to stick to solid numbers and math instead of just personal incredulity.

[gumboot]

"That's not me on my avatar, Pardalis"

:dl:

-Gumboot

[grayman]

What was I thinking?

[Bell]

Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

[chipmunk stew]

We intentionally left errors in our movie because we have to ride out this fifteen minutes while we can, and we don't care about the truth.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

"Whoa... I just checked the date on this BBC article. It's over FIVE years old! Good thing I caught that before I posted it... that would have been embarassing."

[Garb]

Okay, okay. We didn't really do the movie for the victims of 9/11.

Sorry about that.

[gumboot]

[heard at ground zero]

"Actually Mark has a point there you know."

-Gumboot

[shuize]

"I suppose the phrase 'pull it' could have more than one possible interpretation."

[hubbub2]

"Yes, I actually have a job."

[Bell]

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[Sword_Of_Truth]

"So me and my buddies were camping last weekend. Just for laughs, I tossed a beer can into the fire when no one was looking. A couple seconds later it went off like a hand grenade and everyone else **** themselves while I laughed my ass off.

What!? Are you thick or something? I said LIKE a hand grenade. Stop overreacting, you're making a fool of yourself."

[Bell]

I've filed an FOIA request.

[Triterope]

"I'm proud to accept the Nobel Prize in Physics."

You could aim that one a lot lower:

"Wow! My name in a peer-reviewed journal! What a thrill."

"Thanks for your input on my thesis, professor."

"I'll take Physics for $800, Alex."

"Whew! That B.S. in physics was hard work."

"Guess what Mom, I got an A in Mr. Zelansky's class! Can I go to the prom now?"

"Force equals mass times... wait, hang on, I know this one..."

[Triterope]

I've filed an FOIA request.

"Furthermore, I realize that 'victims list' and 'flight manifest' are not the same thing, and I promise never to represent one as the other."

[Spindrift]

Just because we could quibble with one small piece of the NIST report is no reason to discount the whole thing.

[Pardalis]

"I stand corrected"

[fuelair]

Please sir, another sir! I've been really bad!!

[delphi_ote]

"Well, if you take the basic kinematic equations and plug in the mass and velocity of the jet..."

[delphi_ote]

"I was at the library yesterday doing some research, and I came across this article..."

[delphi_ote]

"Hey, guys. Isn't it odd that the NWO hasn't come after our web server yet?"

[grayman]

"Oops".

[pchams]

I read this book today...

[Garb]

I read this book today...
:dl:

Best one I've read so far.

[Anti-sophist]

I have a hypothesis.

...but then again, he knows more than I do.

To be fair, that quote is taken out of context.

Let's not jump to conclusions...

Wow, this NIST report is comprehensive!

Wow, these NIST guys sure are compentant.

The FBI, the CIA, the SEC, FEMA, NIST, 3 police departments, 3 fire departments, 3 massive cleanup crews, all the DNA labs, and the 9/11 commission is actually more than one organization.

The reason the story has changed is because new facts have come to light.

The reason the story has changed is because they've had more time to investigate deeper.

[Gravy]

Which part of "air pressure" don't you understand?

[Anti-sophist]

How accurate is that measurement?

How precise is that measurement?

The difference between precision and accuracy is....

[Popeholden]

This Thread Is Amazing

[Abbyas]

Women with opinions should be treated as individuals not judged as contestants in The Hawaiian Tropics Bikini contest.

[realitybites]

Dude! I just got laid!

[Gravy]

I came to the JREF forum thinking I would demolish you all, but you sure have shown me the errors of my ways. I sincerely and humbly apologize, and I thank you for the valuable lessons you have taught me. I am sending a $100 contribution to the James Randi Educational Foundation.

[Brainster]

"Isn't that rather insulting to the families of the passengers?"

[delphi_ote]

"You know, maybe shouting through a megaphone at Ground Zero on 9/11 isn't the best way to attract people to our movement."

[Dog Town]

The Matrix, and V are just movies, not documentaries!

[Gravy]

I don't need my allowance this week.

[Dog Town]

I got a job!

[delphi_ote]

"Maybe I should figure out what thermite and thermate are before I talk about them so much."

[Dog Town]

le׳xayeem, or לְחַיִּים! Hebrew for cheers!

ETA: never knew how to spell it.

[Mince]

I'm taking all of this undisputed evidence of an inside job to the authorities!

"While simultaneoulsy wondering why the authorities to whom I'm taking the evidence didn't already think of what I'm telling them."

[Mince]

"No, my primary source isn't YouTube video. What is it? Uhh, hold on. I'll get back to you. k?"

[Gravy]

In the rest of my first post here I'd like to lay out for you exactly what I think happened before and during 9/11. I hope you'll bear with me...this is going to take a while!

[chipmunk stew]

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you realize what an idiot you've been.

[Anti-sophist]

Yea, it is probably ridiclous to assume that first responders could tell the difference between molten steel and molten aluminum.

[MRC_Hans]

(Pentagon stuff:)

Oh? The 16ft hole in the Pentagon is the exit hole? Well, of course that changes things.

Oh? The Pentagon lawn IS littered with AC parts? Well, that certainly suggests an AC hit.

Oh? The just because a CCTV cam is in line of sight og the Pentagon, it needs not record the Pentagon? Well, I guess that makes sense.

Oh? The CCTV cam had a 2 pics per second framerate? Well, that does explain why there are might be no good frames of the AC.

Yes, when we extrapolate from the hole in the wall to the light-poles, it is consistent with a large aricraft approacing at a flat angle and low altitude. I guess we can't take the FDR altimeter readings at face value, then.

Yes, I can see that the final maneuvre is quite amateurish. I guess Hani was just lucky to hit the building so precisely. No wonder they wouldn't let him rent a Chessna.

Yes, I realize that officials did not have to cancel travels on 9/11 if they were in on it. They'd have known which planes to avoid. Or they wouldn't have booked them in the first place.

No, I agree that the fireball is not consistent with a HE missile warhead.

Yes, I know shaped charges don't make 16ft holes.

Yes, I see there is wreckage of a nose wheel just outside the hole in that photo.

etc......

Hans

[8den]

Actually I suppose you're right, first responders, and eye witnesses to a mass catastrophe will have conflicting and confusing accounts of what occured, and may not fully understand whats going on.

[jskowron]

Having actually contacted the eyewitnesses to see what the meant when they said "I heard explosions"...

[Abbyas]

What have we accomplished again?

[stateofgrace]

" I think LC could be wrong on this one"

" I didn't realize that LC supported that, how offensive"

" Somebody from LC said what? That’s just disgraceful"

[chipmunk stew]

I need help.

[PerryLogan]

I just realized why I hear laughter wherever I go.

[Pardalis]

"I just got a my first clue!"

[chipmunk stew]

That dumbstruck stare is not from amazement at my mind-blowing information, is it?

[Donal]

Can't argue with you guys right now, I have to get ready for my date.

[DavidJames]

Can't argue with you guys right now, I have to get ready for my job.


Great stuff from everyone, by the way :D

[chipmunk stew]

Vote for change!

[chipmunk stew]

I understand that a law supported by court decisions is, by definition, legal. If I don't like it and believe it is unconstitutional, I will have to convince my representatives to repeal it or the courts to rule against it. Writing internet blogs and producing videos declaring it illegal is completely ineffective. I still have to pay my taxes or face the consequences under the law.

[Garb]

I am not that banned CTer coming back here before I am supposed to.

I am not a glutton for punishment.

[c6gunner]

"Judging from the difficulty we're having in Iraq, maybe a bunch of pissed off Muslims really COULD pull off 9/11 without inside help...."

"Maybe I should stop lining my baseball cap with tinfoil..."

"im treyeing to imporve my spleling and tiping"

[PerryLogan]

The voices...they've stopped.

[Belz...]

Women with opinions should be treated as individuals not judged as contestants in The Hawaiian Tropics Bikini contest.

Not that we have anything against the contestants, of course.

[Brainster]

"There really isn't any connection between a lot of these dots."

"Why don't we travel to the Middle East and get some of these supposed hijackers who are still alive on videotape?"

[Taarkin]

I'll respond to your other points when I get back from my psychiatrist.

[Oliver]

"You disagree? So what´s your point of view?"

[Bell]

I will answer all of your questions you members posted in my thread.

[Minadin]

"This isn't the evidence we're looking for."

[Sword_Of_Truth]

"Now that we're 84% of the country, maybe it's time we got rid of the Klan?"

[gumboot]

I'm glad there's intelligent and educated people like you in this world because frankly, all this information is really hard to understand.

-Gumboot

[kookbreaker]

You mean someone can actually dislike Bush and still think that my 911 theories are junk? I did not know that was possible! I'll have to stop accusing everyone who points out the gaping holes in my theories of being 'neo-con Bush lovers!!'

[Oliver]

You mean someone can actually dislike Bush and still think that my 911 theories are junk? I did not know that was possible! I'll have to stop accusing everyone who points out the gaping holes in my theories of being 'neo-con Bush lovers!!'

Added: "I love my Government!"

[delphi_ote]

Maybe there are some federal agents who aren't two-dimensional villians from a Steven Segal movie.

[MRC_Hans]

I guess you're probably right. I'll take that claim off my blog till I can actually show some conclusive evidence for it.

And on CT websites:

This site is temporarily down for updating. We were removing a lot of claims that were shredded by skeptics, and we realized that the rest were also not too well founded. The site will be balck up ASAP with those clams we can support with solid and unrefuted evidence.

And same site, a month later:

This side has been taken down permanently because it turned out none of the information on it could be suppoerted. Thank you for your interest.




Hans :D

[Peephole]

Really?

[Taarkin]

The "ignore" feature is a cowardly way of shutting out viewpoints I disagree with. The size of my ignore list is not something to brag about.

[delphi_ote]

I read the NIST FAQ (http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm), and here is where I think it's wrong...

[PerryLogan]

30,000 gun deaths a year in America? Now there's a real problem. We've got to do something about that!

[Bell]

Yes Gravy, nice of you to start me a thread about the OKC bombing, but let me first finish the discussion in my other thread.

[TellyKNeasuss]

"I welcome the opportunity to have committees composed of my fellow faculty members evaluate my work."

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

"I'd be willing to reconsider my conclusions if someone could show the following evidence..."

[Albaholic]

(One CT to other CTists)
"Wait a second, guys... what is our complete conspiracy theory of the planning, preparing, and execution of 9/11?"

[MG1962]

YOU ARE RIGHT - CAUSE I AM STUPID

[JAStewart]

"Y'know, I think Gravy is right"

[Bell]

I care about the victims.

[The Doc]

"I do have a set of lips!"
- Dylan Avery

"I didn't crap my pants in the popular mechanics debate!"
- Jason Bermas

"My IQ is above 80"
- Alex Jones

:p

[stateofgrace]

Yes I agree watching youtube videos does not make me en expert.

Yes I agree there are many independent engineers who know what they are talking about.

Yes I agree what sounds like an explosion is not caused by explosives.

[Pardalis]

Yeah... I'm full of it.

[Triterope]

"Maybe I should have apologized right away, and not spent a year claiming I didn't say something in a video I shot myself."

"Come to think of it, changing my story from 'the firemen were in on it' to 'the firemen were ordered to keep quiet' doesn't really change things much."

[PerryLogan]

I should watch my mouth.

[twinstead]

I was predisposed to believe in a conspiracy

[Oliver]

"Yes, it was a sock puppet of me"

[Bell]

S4S (aka JDX) and LT are mocking the AA77 and Pentagon victims.

[Oliver]

"Damn right i´m an as*hole!" :D

[Bell]

I'm only in this for the money (tm)

[Oliver]

"Holy Moly - there WAS a plane!"

:rolleyes:

ETA:
"This new planecrash was no conspiracy."

[Hierosis]

I'm just not smart enough or qualified to know for sure, lets talk to an expert in that field.
I just read the NIST report. Here is my expert analysis of why page x, paragraph y is wrong.
I know that's what it looks like, but I'd like to see an analysis.
This is very important, I'm going to take my analysis to the (police/mainstream media/insurance companies/etc), instead of just anonymously posting on an Internet forum.
Ask Questions, Research for Answers
Yeah, coincidences do happen.

Obviously, we've never spoken. I'd be glad to shatter your stereotype.

[PerryLogan]

I'm going to get help.
The government didn't do it.
People don't really conspire all that much, do they?

[Foolmewunz]

"I just got a life, so I won't be posting on LC any longer. (I never knew girls were so soft and curvey.)"

[~enigma~]

"I suppose the phrase 'pull it' could have more than one possible interpretation."
Is that why the guys in the woowoos are so familiar with the phrase? :)

[PerryLogan]

"Wait a minute. It was a movie. I thought it was real, but it was just a movie."

(Cue Twilight Zone theme.)

[Thunder]

1. "we'll just have to take their word for it"
2. "the governmant may be bad...but they're not THAT bad"
3. "coincidences do happen"
4. "**** happens"
5. "sometimes the simplest solution is the correct one"
6. "not everyone in governmant is corrupt"

[Brainster]

"I'd like to thank the members of the Academy...."

"Gee I guess we were wrong about the voting machines being rigged. What else were we wrong about?"

"You know, it sure doesn't seem like the media covers for Bush on anything else."

"Why are we calling ourselves Truthers?"

[PerryLogan]

Thank God the will of the American people beat the hack.

[Quad4_72]

"Believing 9/11 was a conspiracy is ridiculous and will never get me anywhere in life. I have embarrassed myself, my family, and everyone else who is close to me. I am ashamed that I have disrespected the graves of everyone who died that day. I retract everything that I have claimed as I know that I do not have factual evidence to back up any of it. I apologize to everyone who I have wrongfully accused of murder, treason, and conspiracy. Finally, I apologize to the families of those who died on 9/11. Those are the ones who I have disrespected most of all. By presenting material and information in such a deceitful and incorrect manner, I have completely mislead the families of 9/11 into believing that someone other than terrorists were responsible for 9/11. I have made their recovery for their loss much harder than it already was. For all of this I apologize, and desperately ask for forgiveness." -CT

[Trigood]

"Believing 9/11 was a conspiracy is ridiculous and will never get me anywhere in life. I have embarrassed myself, my family, and everyone else who is close to me. I am ashamed that I have disrespected the graves of everyone who died that day. I retract everything that I have claimed as I know that I do not have factual evidence to back up any of it. I apologize to everyone who I have wrongfully accused of murder, treason, and conspiracy. Finally, I apologize to the families of those who died on 9/11. Those are the ones who I have disrespected most of all. By presenting material and information in such a deceitful and incorrect manner, I have completely mislead [sic: misled] the families of 9/11 into believing that someone other than terrorists were responsible for 9/11. I have made their recovery for their loss much harder than it already was. For all of this I apologize, and desperately ask for forgiveness." -CT
Well put.
But of course, I had to fix that typo, which is one of the MOST ANNOYING TYPOS EVER!!!!! (imho :boxedin:) (because people are spelling like they pronounce... they pronounce "led" and "lead" (the soft metal) the same, therefore, they spell them the same...NO NO NO NO NO!!) (again, sorry :boxedin:)

But again, very well put!!!

[Trigood]

(In penance for my typo correction :boxedin:)

"I just got a life, so I won't be posting on LC any longer. (I never knew girls were so soft and curvey.)"
This is very funny.

How about:

"I just finished reading a couple books about 9/11 by non-CTs, including 102 Minutes and Report from Ground Zero, and gee, I guess that, on 9/11, those fire commanders were doing their job right, in very difficult and confusing circumstances."

"I guess differing and confllicting witness reports are normal in any developing emergency situation, especially one on the scale of 9/11."

"Every time I hear a new witness account about 9/11, it contradicts my pet CT. Maybe I should reconsider my beliefs."

"No one's ever showed me a video of the south side of WTC7 collapsing, so maybe I don't have the whole story after all."

[mortimer]

Dude, it's too early in the day for bong hits.

[Quad4_72]

Well put.
But of course, I had to fix that typo, which is one of the MOST ANNOYING TYPOS EVER!!!!! (imho :boxedin:) (because people are spelling like they pronounce... they pronounce "led" and "lead" (the soft metal) the same, therefore, they spell them the same...NO NO NO NO NO!!) (again, sorry :boxedin:)

But again, very well put!!!


Haha. My apologies on the typo. Typos are things that you will rarely see out of me. Thanks for the correction though!

[PerryLogan]

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

[Darth Rotor]

You'll Never Hear a 9/11 CTist Say . . .

"I admit that I use my left hand now, since my right hand has carpel tunnel syndrome."

"Yes, Abby is smart and beautiful."

"Captain Burlingame was not part of a conspiracy based on a 1996 Mass Casualty exercise. He was an airline pilot who ended up in a bad situation that 30 years of failed airline hijacking policy created, and that the hijackers exploited."

DR

[uk_dave]

"Oh it was just gas"

Flatulence leads US jet to divert

An American Airlines plane made an emergency landing in Nashville after passengers reported the smell of sulphur from burning matches.

The matches were found on the seat of a woman who had attempted to conceal the odour of flatulence with the matches, Nashville airport authorities said.

All 99 passengers and five crew left the plane while it was searched.

The woman was questioned by the FBI but released without charge and allowed to board another American Airlines flight.

"It was determined that she was trying to conceal body odour," said Lynne Lowrance of the Nashville Airport Authority.

She had "no malicious intent but had struck matches which is against [Transport Security Administration] rules," Ms Lowrance said.

The unidentified woman had an unspecified medical condition, Associated Press news agency said.

She was carrying safety matches, which the TSA allows in carry-on luggage.

The matches are not allowed to be struck, however.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6213644.stm

ok so it's not necessarily unique to woowoos.... but I thought it was funny and couldn't think of anywhere else to post it.

[TellyKNeasuss]

"I might not remember exactly what I watched on TV 16 years ago."

[Redtail]

"Oh it was just gas"



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6213644.stm

ok so it's not necessarily unique to woowoos.... but I thought it was funny and couldn't think of anywhere else to post it.

Bask in the ambiance fellow travelers. Bask in the ambiance.

[A W Smith]

"Thats about the right amount of plane wreckage"
"The smoke color is what I would have expected from a plane crash or hot fire"
' I am waiting for peer review before I publish my paper'
'I am interested in all theories'
"May i see those documents you are holding Abby?"
(FROM ALEX JONES) "OK your turn to speak"
'lets all meet at the firehouse'
"proceeds will go directly to the 911 victims families"
"lets place wreathes on the graves of those from flight 93"

[NickUK]

"May I introduce my girlfriend?"

[Bell]

Jezus Christ! :mad: Can you all please stop harrassing the victims?

[Trigood]

Haha. My apologies on the typo. Typos are things that you will rarely see out of me. Thanks for the correction though!
Sorry, I got a bit carried away, I guess... :blush:... especially since you're new here, which of course I didn't notice as I was madly typing away. (That is one word that really gets to me for some reason - I even posted about it a few weeks ago on the "things that annoy you" thread in the Community section -- so it's not you, it's my issue with that one word.)

So, welcome, Quad!!! Once again, sorry for getting so het up, and thanks for taking it so graciously.

Tri

[pvt1863]

"The scientific method is very important to me."

"I value my intellectual integrity."

"Let's not jump to conclusions."

"You're right, a supposedly conservative calculation that says the fire could not have been hotter than 250 degrees C does fail the common sense test."

"I really like Jewsh people."

"Peer-reviewed articles are more important than a witty phrase on a snappy T-shirt."

"I know what a dimensionless analysis is, and I understand why one must be employed when making comparisons between events at different scales."

"A burning tower that had just been struck by a large airliner is a very complex system and cannot be modeled and/or analyzed without the aid of very powerful computer program. Even then there will be many uncertainties and the event may never be fully understood."

"Most of our perceptions about collisions and energy/momentun transfer come from experiences that were on an entirely different scale than those present on 9/11. Therefore, most (if not all) off-the-cuff claims about what should have happened are probably wrong."

"Don't ask me what should have happened. You should ask an engineer."

"There's a first for everything."

[delphi_ote]

I guess arguing about the physics of a light pole falling on a taxi cab really does seem pointless now that I think about it.

[pagan]

Well, we will never NEVER say:

That the events of 9/11 was done by 19 Arab coke heads equipped with boxcutters directed by a kidney patient from a cave in Afghanistan.

I guess we are just not naive enough for such silly fairy tales. A truly sceptical mind cannot accept Dubbya's version after all the lies.

I'll bet the goat story was much better or at least more believable.

[chipmunk stew]

Well, we will never NEVER say:

That the events of 9/11 was done by 19 Arab coke heads equipped with boxcutters directed by a kidney patient from a cave in Afghanistan.

I guess we are just not naive enough for such silly fairy tales. A truly sceptical mind cannot accept Dubbya's version after all the lies.

I'll bet the goat story was much better or at least more believable.
More that we'll never hear you say:

"The only time Osama Bin Laden spent in a cave was during his evasion of US troops following 9/11."

"The official account of 9/11 is based on a convergence of many streams of investigation conducted by thousands of individuals who have no direct connection to the Bush administration."

"I have read and am familiar with a great deal of the end results of these investigations and understand how they reached their conclusions."

"I have familiarized myself with many of the individuals involved in these investigations and understand their methodologies and their reputations among their peers and professionals in related fields."

[Oliver]

Well, we will never NEVER say:

That the events of 9/11 was done by 19 Arab coke heads equipped with boxcutters directed by a kidney patient from a cave in Afghanistan.

I guess we are just not naive enough for such silly fairy tales. A truly sceptical mind cannot accept Dubbya's version after all the lies.

I'll bet the goat story was much better or at least more believable.

Things You'll Never Hear a 9/11 CTist Say... (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=2155755#post2155755)

"My very first post at JREF was crap! I apologize." :D

[PerryLogan]

You'll have to forgive me. I have no idea how stupid I am.

The landslide victory by the Democrats conclusively proves that people aren't waking up. What was I thinking?

[ConspiRaider]

"Yeah okay I'm embarrassed, but it could happen to anyone, no? I mean I'd just come from a Star Trek convention where I'd bought a plastic Phaser Number 2. Then I get home and I suddenly remember that the paperboy looks just like Luke Skywalker (and he's so polite, always calls me Ms. Judy Wood, Engineeress). So naturally that night when I'm thinking about how Our Evil Gubment did 9/11 - BINGO! Particle Beam Weapon! You can understand, right? Right? Hello? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

[Trigood]

I get more of my information on 9/11 from books and/or newspaper articles than from the Internet.

I love Beethoven, Mozart, and Verdi.*

*I'm convinced anyone who loves great music could not truly be that nutty. But then, maybe I'm wrong.

[Brainster]

I get more of my information on 9/11 from books and/or newspaper articles than from the Internet.

I love Beethoven, Mozart, and Verdi.*[/SIZE]

Webster Tarpley has classical music for his bumpers on RBN. Beats the heck out of Jason Bermas' rap music and Uncle Fetzer's Beatles.

[PerryLogan]

The music in Alex Jones's videos always sounds like paint drying.

[TellyKNeasuss]

"Fires in buildings can grow larger."

"The heat from a fire can spread around the entire room."

"Firemen shouldn't risk their lives by going into vacant buildings that are in danger of collapsing."

[stateofgrace]

Yes you are correct thermite does not burn at an angle.

Gee I never saw it that way but now you mention it I guess that cut could have been made by a gas axe after all.

[Bell]

I'm going to reply to all of your posts.

It's a horrible thing to say the USG murdered 3000 citizens.

[Minadin]

"Here's the calculations I made to support my version of events. Please let me know if you spot any errors in my math so that I can correct them immediately and adjust accordingly."

[PerryLogan]

"It's bad for your karma to spread false rumors."

"I've decided to stop calling everyone sheeple, shills, Nazis, and scum for a whole day. I feel better already!"

"If the U.S. really is so incredibly and horribly messed up, I should just leave the country."

"I'm going to stop watching The Matrix for a while."

"The government didn't do it. That feels good to say."

"I'm no smarter than anyone, am I?"

"The voices have stopped."

[Architect]

"Here's the calculations I made to support my version of events. Please let me know if you spot any errors in my math so that I can correct them immediately and adjust accordingly."


But add:


I've shown it to a couple of structural engineers I know just to confirm that they're ok.

[PerryLogan]

"I'm sick of watching 'Terror Storm' over and over again, just to boost the numbers."

"You mean...John Kerry didn't risk his life in Viet Nam so that Alex Jones could call him a traitor? Far out."

[Axiom_Blade]

"Well, it's not the end of the world."

"Satanism is just something Anton LaVey made up in the sixties."

"No, I don't see any connection there at all."

[Bell]

SQUIBS?!!

:dl:

[Kiwiwriter]

"You know, I just realized...the reason I can't get any supporters besides losers and psychos isn't because of any government conspiracy to wreck my life...it's because my ideas are so stupid, my behavior is so bizarre, I haven't bathed in years, and I have no education or credibility. I think I'll start taking night classes at the community college, get a real job, move out of my parents' basement, and put aside this nonsense so I can improve my own life."

[PerryLogan]

"I'm gonna put my bullhorn where the sun don't shine."

[uk_dave]

"I'm gonna put my bullhorn where the sun don't shine."

AJ may not have said it....but we know he did it!

[Oliver]

I´m an Idiot because i banned myself, the boss and the rest of the forum. http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/111074527eb7755fd3.gif


http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107454cd1d06de9b.gif

[PerryLogan]

"I haven't called anyone a sheeple or a shill in a week. I feel so much better!"

[uk_dave]

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107454cd1d06de9b.gif

Do we really believe that was just an 'accident'?

I mean, the timing was strange, coming just as the chief LC Pentagon Researcher was handing it to the Elite Pentagon Research team.

And...and when I tried to log on...ummmm not that I have an account there, but I got a login page where everything .... I mean EVERYTHING was locked down, including the function to retrieve a lost password and to create a new account.

And didn't avery in a speech he made on august 35th 1994 say "I think there WILL come a time when you will say you want to date me".

Isn't there another meaning in that statement?

Can anyone tell me what it is?

oooooooops wrong thread....I wanted the 'debating troofers too long' thread.... bugger

[Oliver]

Do we really believe that was just an 'accident'? *snip*


Well, to answer your question in terms of the thread:

Yes, i believe we troofers are that dumb.

:D

[dubfan]

Dylan, I think what we've got there is a post hoc, ergo prompter hoc fallacy. And this bit right here is just an ad populum. We really need to rethink this thing. I don't think the logic holds up very well.

[Morrigan]

I have actually researched and analysed the evidence and the physics from non-CT, opposing sources to consider what they have to say.

You know, pro-CT sources are at least just as biased as mainstream media sources...

I don't have a political agenda. I'm just interested in the truth.

I think there was an inside job based on the information I have, but I really hope that we're wrong and that it was really a terrorist job. The implications of such a conspiracy are too horrifying to contemplate.

I think there was an inside job based on the information I have, and I don't feel the official story is convincing. However, I am willing to change my mind if I can be shown evidence to the contrary.


I love Beethoven, Mozart, and Verdi.*

*I'm convinced anyone who loves great music could not truly be that nutty. But then, maybe I'm wrong.

Alas, I know for a fact that you are wrong. :(

[PerryLogan]

"The Matrix is just a work of fiction."

[The Demon's Head]

"It's bad for your karma to spread false rumors."

"I've decided to stop calling everyone sheeple, shills, Nazis, and scum for a whole day. I feel better already!"

"If the U.S. really is so incredibly and horribly messed up, I should just leave the country."

If the Truth Movement does truly believe that the U.S is so bad then wouldn't they want to leave the country?

"I'm going to stop watching The Matrix for a while."

Or even stop watching V for Vendetta for that matter.

"The government didn't do it. That feels good to say."

"I'm no smarter than anyone, am I?"

"The voices have stopped."

[Dubbi]

Note: I didn't read the previous posts, so some of these ideas might of already been used.

"I should probably familiarize myself with the counter arguments before I purchase this bullhorn."

"Wait, a physicist is different from an engineer, who is also different from an architect? "

"Perhaps trendy/dramatic background music won't enhance my point."

"Turns out that "9/11 was an inside job!" doesn't contain a question mark."

"I guess Larry Silverstein doesn't have an obligation to answer any of my murder accusations towards him."

"There seems to be a conflict when I hand out Loose Change DVDs and then instruct to 'do your own research'."

"It does seem unlikely that people spend 4+ years becoming accredited to use the 'trust your own eyes' method."

"Next time I'm asked for evidence, I won't link a list of truthers."

"I now see that evidence is independent of trusting the government"

"Next time I want my paper to be published, I won't cite other unpublished papers"