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arcticpenguin
19th June 2003, 11:22 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/19/alqaeda.plea/index.html

An Ohio truck driver accused of plotting a terror attack on New York City's Brooklyn Bridge has agreed to plead guilty to providing material support to a terrorist organization, Attorney General John Ashcroft announced on Thursday.
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Al Qaeda leader Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who is in U.S. custody, has told interrogators that Faris was ordered to perform surveillance of the Brooklyn Bridge with the ultimate goal of cutting its cables, sources told CNN.

Ashcroft said Faris scouted potential terror targets from April 2002 to March 2003, and said he had provided al Qaeda with research on ultralight airplanes in early 2001. Ascroft also said Faris gave al Qaeda material support including "dealings involving cash, thousands of sleeping bags, plane tickets and cell phones."

He was also allegedly involved in a plot to drive a truck loaded with explosives onto an airport tarmac to blow up a plane, sources said.

Neither alleged plan was executed.

The arrest of Faris and the plea deal, reached on May 1, was kept secret because of the sensitivity of the case, CNN has confirmed.

Several government sources noted that the unusual step of keeping secret the detention, guilty plea and plea agreement has been used most often in organized crime cases.

arcticpenguin
19th June 2003, 11:36 AM
I intended this as a reminder to the ultra-liberals out there who refuse to acknowledge that there are people out there trying to do bad things.

Skeptical Greg
19th June 2003, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by arcticpenguin
I intended this as a reminder to the ultra-liberals out there who refuse to acknowledge that there are people out there trying to do bad things.


Yes, but that doesn't address the fact that they were beaten as children, never went to Disneyland, ate a Big Mac or owned a pair of Levis..

jj
19th June 2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Diogenes



Yes, but that doesn't address the fact that they were beaten as children, never went to Disneyland, ate a Big Mac or owned a pair of Levis..

It's fitting that you use a cub scout as your avatar, I think.

Tell me, what do you think of religious discrimination by organizations that often get listed on college apps and resumes?

Is it cool?

As to your point, I haven't seen anyone deny that there are bad people out there. Both your straw man and the straw man you're responding to are fundamentally unethical.

a_unique_person
19th June 2003, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by arcticpenguin
I intended this as a reminder to the ultra-liberals out there who refuse to acknowledge that there are people out there trying to do bad things.

I don't think any doubts there are people out there trying to do bad things. It is just that some people's definition of what is bad is different to other peoples.

Ed
20th June 2003, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by a_unique_person


I don't think any doubts there are people out there trying to do bad things. It is just that some people's definition of what is bad is different to other peoples.


Bad
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/09/01/photos/911-tower-A.jpg

Jon_in_london
20th June 2003, 04:23 AM
Bad.

Jon_in_london
20th June 2003, 04:25 AM
Bad

Jon_in_london
20th June 2003, 04:27 AM
Vietnamese child, suffering from agent orange.
Get the picture?

Ed
20th June 2003, 04:33 AM
I suppose you have a point.

More pictures of wounded civilians. Bad. Got it.

Jon_in_london
20th June 2003, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by Ed
I suppose you have a point.



Exactly and the ones I posted are just as bad as the one you did.

Ed
20th June 2003, 04:49 AM
As I said, dead civilians, bad. No moral relativism there.