9-11 Denial Just Recycled OKC Denial?

[Brainster]

Matt Taibbi, whose Rolling Stone article on the 9-11 Deniers apparently caused quite an uproar among the NYC nuts, is back comparing 9-11 woo to OKC woo (http://www.alternet.org/story/43418/?cID=270425). Terrific article!

Over a month after I first wrote a column slamming the 9/11 Truth movement, I continue to get hate mail in massive quantities. A group of Truthers even picketed my office, and I'm still picking food particles out of my scarf after an incident in which the movement's house lunatic, a wild-eyed German blogger named Nico Haupt, tried to goad me into slugging him in a West Side diner.

"Go ahead, heet me, then I haf beeg story!" he roared, scream-spitting half-digested detritus in my face.

Of course I didn't hit him -- nothing in the world is more ridiculous than two writers fighting in a restaurant. If you're surprised that I would call someone who spit food on my lap a fellow writer, don't be. As I subsequently found out, Haupt is a literary juggernaut, one of the most voluble bloggers on the planet earth. His internet entries read like a MySpace mixture of MTV's Real World meets Che's Congo Diaries, only on meth and in a German accent.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Or they just hold many similarities by falling under the general umbrella of "history revisionism". *shrug*

[Kent1]

Very FUNNY!

"And what evidence could possibly exist that would be so unwieldy that it would require the destruction of an entire building to be rid of? What, did the CIA carve its 9/11 plans in a 7,000-pound slab of New Hampshire granite in the WTC-7 basement? Were they doodled on the CIA bathroom stalls? Here I sit, broken-hearted. Came to s**t, but only... planned controlled demolition of the World Trade Center! Seriously, what "evidence" had to go? And why wouldn't they just remove it surreptitiously, rather than blowing up a gazillion-dollar building on live international television, leaving the rubble to the mercy of firemen and whoever else was down there?"

[Dazed]

Thanks for the link. ;)

[PerryLogan]

It's true! Alex Jones thinks the government did Oklahoma City. Alex thinks the government does everything.

It's always the same story: it was a really obvious hoax. I mean, it's like--really obvious! There are like all these smoking guns!

And yet no one ever knows but the conspiracy guys, because the conspiracy guys are the most brilliant guys on earth.

The whole conspiracy thing is just an ego disorder of white guys.

[Docker]

It's true! Alex Jones thinks the government did Oklahoma City. Alex thinks the government does everything.

It's always the same story: it was a really obvious hoax. I mean, it's like--really obvious! There are like all these smoking guns!

And yet no one ever knows but the conspiracy guys, because the conspiracy guys are the most brilliant guys on earth.

The whole conspiracy thing is just an ego disorder of white guys.

What I like best about Jones is the way he claims everything is "admitted".

He will say that the government is militarising the police and that it's secret and the government don't want you to know. Then in the next sentence he will say it's admitted.

[Docker]

It's true! Alex Jones thinks the government did Oklahoma City. Alex thinks the government does everything.

It's always the same story: it was a really obvious hoax. I mean, it's like--really obvious! There are like all these smoking guns!

And yet no one ever knows but the conspiracy guys, because the conspiracy guys are the most brilliant guys on earth.

The whole conspiracy thing is just an ego disorder of white guys.

I'm not sure about "white guys". I've seem lots of women truthers and black ones.

[Garb]

What I like best about Jones is the way he claims everything is "admitted".

He will say that the government is militarising the police and that it's secret and the government don't want you to know. Then in the next sentence he will say it's admitted.

And you have him as your avatar.

And it couldn't be making fun of him because there is no funny dialouge or any depicting him in a demeaning manner.

[Docker]

And you have him as your avatar.

And it couldn't be making fun of him because there is no funny dialouge or any depicting him in a demeaning manner.

I have explained numerous times why he is my avatar.

[Dog Town]

I have explained numerous times why he is my avatar.

We just don't believe ya! Are you on a proxy?

[Docker]

And you have him as your avatar.

And it couldn't be making fun of him because there is no funny dialouge or any depicting him in a demeaning manner.

Just a quik point; sentances can't start with and.

[Docker]

We just don't believe ya! Are you on a proxy?

Serious question here: what's a proxy?

[Garb]

Just a quik point; sentances can't start with and.

Thank you for teaching me simple english which I am well aware of.

It was a continuing statement, so the and was acceptable.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Serious question here: what's a proxy?

In the context of this discussion, it would be something like ninjaproxy, anonymizer, or other web-based http proxy sites.

[Docker]

Thank you for teaching me simple english which I am well aware of.

It was a continuing statement, so the and was acceptable.

No you started both sentences with and.

[maccy]

Just a quik point; sentances can't start with and.

Yes they can, and often do.

If you're in a pedantic mood:

quick should be quick; and

sentances should be sentences.

[Bell]

Just a quik point; sentances can't start with and.

Just a quick point. Don't critize people's writing skills when you make the same 'mistakes':

No idiot, i asked firecoins why the glass was falling before 9/11

And I never claimed it didn't reflect. I said when was the last time he saw it.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=2037137#post2037137

[Docker]

In the context of this discussion, it would be something like ninjaproxy, anonymizer, or other web-based http proxy sites.

I asked for clarity. I know nothing about computers.

[Garb]

No you started both sentences with and.

Both were continuing sentenecs. People say it like that when they speak all the time.

[Docker]

Just a quick point. Don't critize people's writing skills when you make the same 'mistakes':



http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=2037137#post2037137

Oh my god, you went and searched for an instance of me using and. This is becoming an obsession.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

I asked for clarity. I know nothing about computers.

You asked, "Serious question here: what's a proxy?". I provided the answer. If you want more information Googling what I provided should give you an abundance of details.

[Docker]

Both were continuing sentenecs. People say it like that when they speak all the time.

You aren't speaking, your writing.

[Garb]

Oh my god, you went and searched for an instance of me using and. This is becoming an obsession.

So when people prove you as a liar, hypocrite, and just plain stupid, it is called obsession.


Man have I been delusional...

[Redtail]

The whole conspiracy thing is just an ego disorder of white guys.

Due to the facts that; A) I teach at an HBC/U and B) I've been Black for 34+ years, I can say with absolute certainty that said disorder is not limited to White guys.:D

[Bell]

Oh my god, you went and searched for an instance of me using and. This is becoming an obsession.

You brought it up. Only fair of me to point this out.

[Garb]

You aren't speaking, your writing.

We are having a discussion. I'm not writing an english paper.

[Docker]

Due to the facts that; A) I teach at an HBC/U and B) I've been Black for 34+ years, I can say with absolute certainty that said disorder is not limited to White guys.:D

It's racist and sexist to say it's white guys. The truth movement encompasses every demographic you can think of, except shills or people with OCD.

[maccy]

You aren't speaking, your writing.

A list of common usages of English that some people claim are errors:

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/nonerrors.html (http://www.wsu.edu/%7Ebrians/errors/nonerrors.html)

Language is a set of conventions, not a set of rules.

And, if you're following the conventions, it should be "you're writing", above.

[Garb]

It's racist and sexist to say it's white guys. The truth movement encompasses every demographic you can think of, except shills or people with OCD.

I'm serious docker, get my out of context quotes off of your signature.

[Docker]

We are having a discussion.

I have seen no evidence of this. All I can see is my obsessed fans queuing to to have a pop at me, and failing.

[qarnos]

It's racist and sexist to say it's white guys. The truth movement encompasses every demographic you can think of, except shills or people with OCD.

Even jewish people?

[Garb]

I have seen no evidence of this. All I can see is my obsessed fans queuing to to have a pop at me, and failing.

What kind of f-ed up eyes do you have? Seriously...

[Docker]

I'm serious docker, get my out of context quotes off of your signature.


Says a man whose sig has me saying i'm Alex Jones gay lover.

It is not a breach of rules to quote peoplein my sig. I hope you don't play pokeer, you are really showing your tell.

[Docker]

What kind of f-ed up eyes do you have? Seriously...

Please don't resort to swearing, it betrays your lack of vocabulary.

[JamesB]

Just a quik point; sentances can't start with and.

And your point is?

[Redtail]

It's racist and sexist to say it's white guys. The truth movement encompasses every demographic you can think of, except shills or people with OCD.

:D

[Bell]

Says a man whose sig has me saying i'm Alex Jones gay lover.

It is not a breach of rules to quote peoplein my sig. I hope you don't play pokeer, you are really showing your tell.

It was you yourself who said that.

[Docker]

Even jewish people?

Yes, even jews. Theres a movement called Jews against Zionism that are involved in the truth movement.

[maccy]

Just a quik point; sentances can't start with and.And your point is?

Bravo!

[Garb]

Says a man whose sig has me saying i'm Alex Jones gay lover.

It is not a breach of rules to quote peoplein my sig. I hope you don't play pokeer, you are really showing your tell.

The quote is not out of context. You said it, with your own words.

Mine, however is taken out of context, put in a way to make me look stupid. No I did not read ALL of the NIST report, however I have read the parts that were significant to what I was researching, and yes, that includes collapse of the towers. As is my second one, as I did not say they were carrying the same weight. I said that they are designed to balance out the load they are carrying, and since supports were destroyed more weight was transferred.

Oh and you have no idea what a tell is, so why don't you figure out what it is used for before using it as a means to mock me.

[Garb]

Please don't resort to swearing, it betrays your lack of vocabulary.

You just gotta resort to baseless insults don't you.

What happened to the "not now the big people are talking" insults?

[maccy]

Yes, even jews. Theres a movement called Jews against Zionism that are involved in the truth movement.

Weird that there is no mention of this on their website: http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/index.cfm

[Redtail]

Weird that there is no mention of this on their website: http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/index.cfm

I'm still wondering why the truth movement discriminates against people with OCD. They're still people.:(

[maccy]

I'm still wondering why the truth movement discriminates against people with OCD. They're still people.:(

Maybe it's because people with OCD realise that their obssessions and compulsions come from them and not from the illuminati?

[Docker]

The quote is not out of context. You said it, with your own words.

Mine, however is taken out of context, put in a way to make me look stupid. No I did not read ALL of the NIST report, however I have read the parts that were significant to what I was researching, and yes, that includes collapse of the towers. As is my second one, as I did not say they were carrying the same weight. I said that they are designed to balance out the load they are carrying, and since supports were destroyed more weight was transferred.

Oh and you have no idea what a tell is, so why don't you figure out what it is used for before using it as a means to mock me.

It is totally out of context, unless your stupid enough to think I would seriousl say i'm his gay lover.

My quotes of you are word for word.

I don't need to make you look stupid, you do that for me.

[Bell]

It is totally out of context, unless your stupid enough to think I would seriousl say i'm his gay lover.

My quotes of you are word for word.

I don't need to make you look stupid, you do that for me.

You didn't say you are Alex Jones' gay lover?

[Docker]

You didn't say you are Alex Jones' gay lover?

Look, I dont mind whats in his sig. I'm not the one having a hissy fit and complaining.

I'll keep my sig, he can keep his.

[Bell]

Look, I dont mind whats in his sig. I'm not the one having a hissy fit and complaining.

I'll keep my sig, he can keep his.

But did you or didn't you say you are Alex Jones' gay lover?

[Docker]

But did you or didn't you say you are Alex Jones' gay lover?

Yes, but in the same way that skeptic's often say "everyone knows jellyfish brought down the towers"

It's called sarcasm. But I would like garb to keep his sig, it further proves my point about him.

[Garb]

It is totally out of context, unless your stupid enough to think I would seriousl say i'm his gay lover.

My quotes of you are word for word.

I don't need to make you look stupid, you do that for me.

They are worded and picked out to make it seem like that is how the conversation occured. That is not how I said it and that is not what I meant. So of course I am going to take offense to you changing the context of the quote to fit your "I'm so smart" idea.

And you even said it. Want proof?

Yes, but in the same way that skeptic's often say "everyone knows jellyfish brought down the towers"

It's called sarcasm. But I would like garb to keep his sig, it further proves my point about him.

And what would that be? Oh and nobody knows it was sarcastic, we can't tell what your tone is. We aren't speaking, remember?

[Bell]

Yes, but in the same way that skeptic's often say "everyone knows jellyfish brought down the towers"

It's called sarcasm. But I would like garb to keep his sig, it further proves my point about him.

What point is that? Please explain, because my sig would prove the same point about me?

[Garb]

Docker, because you fail at reading comprehension:

The structure of the tower was meant so that all columns have the same weight pressed on them.

Is it a possibility that not all the columns were destroyed at the same time? That once each column was unable to handle the weight, the weight was transferred to the other columns and once the weight was too great for the remaining "intact" columns that the tower fell? At that point the tower would most likely fall "symettrically" even though that wasn't the case with the south tower.

Now is that the same as: all columns have the same weight on them

[Docker]

Docker, because you fail at reading comprehension:



Now is that the same as: all columns have the same weight on them

My mistake, I will change my quote immediately.

[Garb]

My mistake, I will change my quote immediately.

And I'm not surprised you lost the entire point of the quote you put on your sig.

Congrats.

[beachnut]

... i'm his gay lover.

... you do that for me.

who is your lover?

but this article hits you right on the nose,

this article starting this thread was written for you! bet you wrote him an email?

[Garb]

who is your lover?

but this article hits you right on the nose,

this article starting this thread was written for you! bet you wrote him an email?

Alex Jones. He said it himself.

[beachnut]

And I'm not surprised you lost the entire point of the quote you put on your sig.

Congrats.

that is what he has said more than once

[beachnut]

Alex Jones. He said it himself.


he must like Alex, he uses Alex Jones as his symbol of himself, guess he may be the guy who Alex was seen with in LA, or was that Charlie Sheen?

Wonder if Docker has emailed the rolling stone guy?

[beachnut]

the comments are funny/sad

what a bunch of lemmings, cutting Rolling Stone as not a good source, when their own movement is devoid of reality and fact

ironic