I met a real live Truther tonight.

[Mince]

That's right. I met an authentic, real life Truther. I now know they do exist outside of the internet. Unfortunately, I found out she was a Truther too late, and we soon departed after a few (very civilized) words. But we will see each other at least once a week. In the short time we conversed, she, of course, played up Alex Jones. She asked me if I had a subscription to PP.com. I told her I would not give that !#$@ a dime if it would save the life of his whole family. She told me I should subscribe because all of his claims are "documented." I asked her if she had seen LC, knew of the LCF, and of JREF. She had seen LC, but had not heard of LCF or JREF. I encouraged her to come here. Hopefully, she will. This is probably not a big deal to most, especially those who deal with these unique individuals daily. But, to me, seeing an actual Truther in the flesh was quite exciting.

[SwissSkeptic]

I had a similar experience a couple weeks ago. Just like you I wasn't aware of that lifeform existing outside of the internets, so imagine my surprise when i realised that a person I've known for years had turned into a troofer. :jaw-dropp

[uk_dave]

I caution everyone to treat real life troofers with extreme caution.

Never forget that these people believe democracy in the US has been usurped by a murderous regime capable of any evil act, and that they themselves are (no doubt) cunningly disguising their own armed rebellion against this evil by pretending to lead normal lives, but at any time they could pounce as part of a mass uprising to reclaim their country and it's democratic institutions.

I mean, you would, wouldn't you?

:duck:

[El Greco]

Also talk to them about agent Mulder - he's their hero.

[PerryLogan]

Keep your distance! Alex Jones's fans do not get their vaccines!

UK Dave's words are well taken. There is also a health-related reason why you might NOT want to get physically close to an Alex Jones fan.

I'm not kidding. Alex says vaccines are part of the elite's plot to kill 80% of us. He talks constantly about "cancer viruses in the vaccines" and babies being turned into idiots because they got their vaccines. The topic of vaccinations brings out some of Alex's most psychotic imagery.

So I assume loyal Alex Jones followers do not get their vaccines and do not get their children vaccinated. Alex and his fans may bring polio back to Austin.

So you might want to think twice about hanging with these people. In addition to their seditious beliefs, they may pose somewhat of a public-health problem.

[Bell]

Outside the internet? Huh?

[sleahead]

'm not kidding. Alex says vaccines are part of the elite's plot to kill 80% of us.

Perry, I've never trawled though Jones' gibberish for long enough to discover his reasoning for the NWO's ambition to kill 80% of the U.S. (or world?) population. Do you know why, according to Jones, the so-called NWO would want to do this?

[PerryLogan]

Alex thinks the ruling elite have "life-extension technology" which enables them to live forever. Or practically forever.

I'm not on acid. Alex talks about this all the time. It's like a bad comic book. As Alex says to his fans:

"They're putting cancer viruses in your vaccines. Their putting poison in most of your food. They're engaging in massive eugenics against you and your family...and you don't even know what 'eugenics' means.'"

So the secret ruling elite have to kill 80% of the world's population to have enough resources. I think that's it. They're also very evil, so killing us would be their idea of fun.

To add to the weirdness, Alex insists all this information is "out in the open." But he's the only one in the world who could figure it out. He actually believes all this.

Alex has cited a few documents to support this view, though never too specifically. Of course, none of them say what Alex claims they say. They seem to be discussions of population sustainability, with nobody saying anything about killing anybody.


I'm telling you: more terrorism's coming. And each event gets bigger, as they get more funding.
--Alex Jones, InfoWars, Dec. 27, 2001

[uk_dave]

Perry,

Have you ever researched jones's life pre-PCTN (Paranoid Conspiracy Theory Nuthouse)?

I mean, was he bullied as child? Dropped on his head as a baby? Had a bad childhood experience with a lizard, or turned down for a job with the US Postal Service?

[chipmunk stew]

Alex thinks the ruling elite have "life-extension technology" which enables them to live forever. Or practically forever.

I'm not on acid. Alex talks about this all the time. It's like a bad comic book. As Alex says to his fans:

"They're putting cancer viruses in your vaccines. Their putting poison in most of your food. They're engaging in massive eugenics against you and your family...and you don't even know what 'eugenics' means.'"

So the secret ruling elite have to kill 80% of the world's population to have enough resources. I think that's it. They're also very evil, so killing us would be their idea of fun.

To add to the weirdness, Alex insists all this information is "out in the open." But he's the only one in the world who could figure it out. He actually believes all this.

Alex has cited a few documents to support this view, though never too specifically. Of course, none of them say what Alex claims they say. They seem to be discussions of population sustainability, with nobody saying anything about killing anybody.


I'm telling you: more terrorism's coming. And each event gets bigger, as they get more funding.
--Alex Jones, InfoWars, Dec. 27, 2001
Does he ever mention the Georgia Guidestones (http://www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com/Message.htm)?

"Are they a mission statement from Hell and the Ten Commandments of the Anti-Christ? (http://www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com/half_a_billion.htm)"

(No, the site is not a joke.)

[Skibum]

Alex thinks the ruling elite have "life-extension technology" which enables them to live forever. Or practically forever.

I'm not on acid. Alex talks about this all the time. It's like a bad comic book. As Alex says to his fans:

"They're putting cancer viruses in your vaccines. Their putting poison in most of your food. They're engaging in massive eugenics against you and your family...and you don't even know what 'eugenics' means.'"

So the secret ruling elite have to kill 80% of the world's population to have enough resources. I think that's it. They're also very evil, so killing us would be their idea of fun.

To add to the weirdness, Alex insists all this information is "out in the open." But he's the only one in the world who could figure it out. He actually believes all this.

Alex has cited a few documents to support this view, though never too specifically. Of course, none of them say what Alex claims they say. They seem to be discussions of population sustainability, with nobody saying anything about killing anybody.


I'm telling you: more terrorism's coming. And each event gets bigger, as they get more funding.
--Alex Jones, InfoWars, Dec. 27, 2001

I submit this a proof of government incompetence.
Despite cancer viruses in our vaccines and poison in most of our food, life expectancy seems to be ever increasing. From what I've seen we are at all time highs, who would have thought the government was so incompetant that they achieve the opposite of the intended effect.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

I submit this a proof of government incompetence.
Despite cancer viruses in our vaccines and poison in most of our food, life expectancy seems to be ever increasing. From what I've seen we are at all time highs, who would have thought the government was so incompetant that they achieve the opposite of the intended effect.

Ah, you see, that's the brilliance of it. By increasing our life expectancy, the sheeple will never catch on to the fact that they are being given cancer!

[Skibum]

Ah, you see, that's the brilliance of it. By increasing our life expectancy, the sheeple will never catch on to the fact that they are being given cancer!


Perhaps we should revert back to the end of the 19th century where I could expect to live another 3 or 4 years instead of the 40+ years of today.

[DavidJames]

I submit this a proof of government incompetence.
Despite cancer viruses in our vaccines and poison in most of our food, life expectancy seems to be ever increasing. From what I've seen we are at all time highs, who would have thought the government was so incompetant that they achieve the opposite of the intended effect.Cancer is a virus introduced by the government. The purpose is not to kill the victim, but to alter their thinking process to ensure they remain loyal and faithful to the government.

The government, due to their enthusiasm to complete this mission, introduced the virus before it had been thoroughly tested. The side affects of course, are what we've seen now for the past half century. As the virus is perfected, the negative physical affects will be eliminated leaving only the psychological ones. You will know this is occurring as "cures" for cancer are introduced.

The virus is distributed through "chem trails" from jet planes. In fact you can track the wide recognition of cancer only back to the introduction of jets. That doesn't mean the government wasn't experimenting earlier. Prior to jets, the virus was distributed via low flying "crop duster" planes. This accounts for "cancer" reports prior to jet technology.

I would provide links, howerver, I haven't figured out a way to hot link to the voices in my head.

[Donal]

I actually work with a couple of them. One of them had LC running on his computer. I made smart guy remark and another one comes up and they both try and confront me.

The main argument: The way the Towers fell just looks wrong.

I ask how they were supposed to fall.

"Come on man, not like that."

[Skibum]

DJ, you seem to know far too much about the subject.

[stateofgrace]

I've never met one in real life. From what is written on the net, I assumed they would be marching up and down, all over the place but I'm yet to run across one.

When United 93 opened in the UK, they were going on and on about rallying outside cinemas. I took my wife down to see it, fully expecting crowds of them. Zip, zero.

Mind you it doesn't help that I live in a cave up in the Scottish highlands.

[Pipirr]

I was surprised to find that two of the regulars at the local skeptics meetup were twoofers. They told me that wtc7 was the smoking gun.

Still, it didn't take long before the conversation rapidly evolved into a metaanalysis of the application of critical thinking to CTs, the fallacy of incredulity and the role our own prejudices play in 9/11 beliefs. We also talked a little about the evidence for and against, and I think briefly I might have been channeling Gravy. :-)

So a big thanks to you guys for the entertainment, the hard work, the smackdowns and the truth. I'm going to get some popcorn, head back to a Russell thread and lurk some more...

:cheerleader2

[Brainster]

Perry, I've never trawled though Jones' gibberish for long enough to discover his reasoning for the NWO's ambition to kill 80% of the U.S. (or world?) population. Do you know why, according to Jones, the so-called NWO would want to do this?

Perry gave a good explanation of Jones' particular brand of nonsense. Some of the other Deniers cite Mike Ruppert's (From the Wilderness) peak oil theory, which is that the world is running out of oil and therefore the elites need to kill off a bunch of us in order to maintain their lifestyle.

[Josh Redstone]

I met one once. We both work at the same place, himself full-time and myself part-time. Anyways, he was one of those guys who says the planes had no windows. I quickly pointed out that if he had been watching a plane going 500+ miles per hour from two miles away, he probably wouldn't have seen windows. He nodded in agreement, and he was pretty civil during our discussion. I asked him if he'd seen Loose Change yet, and when he said he hadn't, I directed him towards markyX's version.


Have you ever researched jones's life pre-PCTN (Paranoid Conspiracy Theory Nuthouse)?

I mean, was he bullied as child? Dropped on his head as a baby? Had a bad childhood experience with a lizard, or turned down for a job with the US Postal Service?

I'd be curious to know about this too. I mean, I wonder how Jones ended up this way? Was it something when he was young? In college? A traumatic event?

[Overman]

Takes all types to make a world.

[Arus808]

hopefully you can turn her.

I have yet to meet a "truther". all of my friends and acquaintances, dont buy into any of the conspiracy theories.

and most are foreigners anyway, so they really dont give a damn one way or another.

[jujigatami]

Perry gave a good explanation of Jones' particular brand of nonsense. Some of the other Deniers cite Mike Ruppert's (From the Wilderness) peak oil theory, which is that the world is running out of oil and therefore the elites need to kill off a bunch of us in order to maintain their lifestyle.

Man are they doing a poor job. US population just hit 300,000,000 this week.

When will the killing start, as far as I'm concerned, we could use it. And while we're at it, how about a war for oil? I pay too darn much to fill up my tank!

[jujigatami]

hopefully you can turn her.

I don't know, in my experience, the crazier the chick is, the better she is in the sack.

[PerryLogan]

That will be quite enough of that kind of talk, Little Mister.

I know and care very little about Alex Jones's earlier life. He has been a figure on local cable since the mid-90's, when he was much thinner. He has an entry in Wikipedia, probably written by one of his minions. I have no reason to think there was anything particularly weird in his early life, other than living in Austin. Alex describes himself as an ex-Republican who saw the light with Waco.

The Waco thing really tipped a lot of conspiracy guys, I think. Alex is apparently one of them.

He says he went to college, but I'm sure he didn't. Then he got his show going on local cable and began telling the world how stupid they are.

I don't know about all Truthers, but Alex's fans are mostly white males of subnormal intelligence who think they're brilliant

[Mince]

hopefully you can turn her.


She's never heard of LCF or JREF. As I said, we didn't talk for long, but it appears she hasn't done much research. She had two buttons and (said she had) the black 9/11 t-shirt. So, for her, I think it's mostly a fashion show accompanied with "some really cool theories man."

[Class]

I remember reading a thread on the LC forums a month or two ago about the great vaccination conspiracy. People were discussing their experiences with vaccines and it was filled with "oh my god a few years ago i went to get a flu shot and i got the flu WTF?!" and other such nonsense. I was laughing at all their posts until I came upon a post by user Daniels. He was responding to a vaccine conspiracy website that another user had posted and his reply angered me.


It went something like...
"Thanks for the link! I never knew what kinds of poisons I was giving to my children! I'll never get them vaccinated again":eek:

If you put yourself in danger, then I don't really care. Putting your child's life in danger, however is a different story...:mad:

[Mince]

I remember reading a thread on the LC forums a month or two ago about the great vaccination conspiracy. People were discussing their experiences with vaccines and it was filled with "oh my god a few years ago i went to get a flu shot and i got the flu WTF?!" and other such nonsense. I was laughing at all their posts until I came upon a post by user Daniels. He was responding to a vaccine conspiracy website that another user had posted and his reply angered me.


It went something like...
"Thanks for the link! I never knew what kinds of poisons I was giving to my children! I'll never get them vaccinated again":eek:

If you put yourself in danger, then I don't really care. Putting your child's life in danger, however is a different story...:mad:

Whoa! I remember the thread, but missed this post. Does he know how much negligence he's responsible for by not giving his children needed vaccinations? Maybe he was just posturing, "saying" he wouldn't give vaccinations to his children so that he conforms with all his buddies at LC, while actually, in real life, giving his children their vaccinations. I hope so.

[Triterope]

"They're putting cancer viruses in your vaccines. Their putting poison in most of your food. They're engaging in massive eugenics against you and your family...and you don't even know what 'eugenics' means.'"

Let's think about this for a second.

Most of Alex Jones' listeners are conspiracy theorists, wingnuts, kooks, and other people whom most of us would characterize as undesirables.

Alex Jones is advising his listeners not to get life-saving vaccines.

Would that not constitute a eugenics program?

Maybe that's the real conspiracy: Alex Jones and other CT promoters exist solely to kill off anyone who is gullible enough to take their advice.

"This week on the Alex Jones Show: why hygiene is a Zionist plot, and why the New World Order wants you to try to hook up at singles bars, like the rest of the sheeple do. Wake up, America!"

[osmosis]

Takes all types to make a world.

It doesn't take all types, we just have all types.

[crucial_fiction]

I've met a couple. Mostly younger kids that have come onboard my command. Luckily these few that were pretty die-hard in thier convictions, were easily swayed when I encouraged them to other facts with some backing.

Kids aren't all bad these days...

[gumboot]

The virus is distributed through "chem trails" from jet planes. In fact you can track the wide recognition of cancer only back to the introduction of jets. That doesn't mean the government wasn't experimenting earlier. Prior to jets, the virus was distributed via low flying "crop duster" planes. This accounts for "cancer" reports prior to jet technology.


So what I want to know is, how the heck did the Ancient Greeks manage to invent crop duster planes? Or was Hippocrates a clairvoyant? ;)

-Gumboot

[Bell]

So what I want to know is, how the heck did the Ancient Greeks manage to invent crop duster planes? Or was Hippocrates a clairvoyant? ;)

-Gumboot

Ahum... (http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientaircraft.html)

[gumboot]

Ahum... (http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientaircraft.html)


Hah hah hah... that's awesome...

I thought they were serious until I reached the Millennium Falcon! :D

So I take it the next release of Age of Empires will be back to Ancient times, but with Commanches?

-Gumboot

[Elizabeth I]

So I assume loyal Alex Jones followers do not get their vaccines and do not get their children vaccinated. Alex and his fans may bring polio back to Austin.

So you might want to think twice about hanging with these people. In addition to their seditious beliefs, they may pose somewhat of a public-health problem.
If they live in Texas and want to send their kids to public school, they do.

The exec. secretary in my department didn't get her kid vaccinated because "it's a foreign substance in the body" (like germs and viruses aren't!) and the school kicked him out until she brought him back with an up-to-date immunization record.

[PerryLogan]

That's reassuring. The Jones followers are pretty thick here in Austin. I hope they aren't listening to their guru on this one.

By the way, the continued good health of Austin stands as additional proof that everyone is not "waking up. " If everyone in Austin were waking up, we'd be a hotbed of disease by now.

[HeyLeroy]

I work with a Troofer. Thank Mr.Skinny we're on opposite shifts or I'd hose him down with methanol and throw him in the chip-bin if I had to listen for his nonsense for too long. He's of the sooper-extreme variety. The planes were remote-control and all the passengers were taken somewhere and euthanized. Jeesh, wouldn't it have been easier to just leave them on the frickin' planes?

Hope he sees my letter to the editor, which was published today:
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/letters/story.html?id=58cb6a16-8067-45be-a702-89cb393a344c
And I gotta thank everyone here who provided me with the resources I used for this letter.

(It would be kinda cool to have a remote-control jumbo-jet, though.)

[Morrigan]

I submit this a proof of government incompetence.
Despite cancer viruses in our vaccines and poison in most of our food, life expectancy seems to be ever increasing. From what I've seen we are at all time highs, who would have thought the government was so incompetant that they achieve the opposite of the intended effect.
Ah, but those life expectancy stats are all wrong, it's all a LIE by the GOVERNMENT! People are actually DYING!!!

[Kryptos]

Hope he sees my letter to the editor, which was published today:
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/letters/story.html?id=58cb6a16-8067-45be-a702-89cb393a344c
And I gotta thank everyone here who provided me with the resources I used for this letter.

Nice job! very well written.

[LashL]

I work with a Troofer. Thank Mr.Skinny we're on opposite shifts or I'd hose him down with methanol and throw him in the chip-bin if I had to listen for his nonsense for too long. He's of the sooper-extreme variety. The planes were remote-control and all the passengers were taken somewhere and euthanized. Jeesh, wouldn't it have been easier to just leave them on the frickin' planes?

Hope he sees my letter to the editor, which was published today:
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/letters/story.html?id=58cb6a16-8067-45be-a702-89cb393a344c
And I gotta thank everyone here who provided me with the resources I used for this letter.

(It would be kinda cool to have a remote-control jumbo-jet, though.)

The part of your LTTE that I was able to read is excellent. Is it possible for you to post the rest of the text of your letter here? I could only read the beginning part of it as the site has a "locked" section for subscribers, which is where it seemed to indicate I'd have to go to read the rest of it.

[osmosis]

Most of Alex Jones' listeners are conspiracy theorists, wingnuts, kooks, and other people whom most of us would characterize as undesirables.

Alex Jones is advising his listeners not to get life-saving vaccines.

In a Darwinian sense, AJ is doing the world a favour. With fewer people who believe AJ passing on their genes to future generations, the average quality of the gene pool should improve significantly. Perhaps the global IQ level will rise a few points.

[HeyLeroy]

The part of your LTTE that I was able to read is excellent. Is it possible for you to post the rest of the text of your letter here? I could only read the beginning part of it as the site has a "locked" section for subscribers, which is where it seemed to indicate I'd have to go to read the rest of it.

Here's the letter as I originally wrote it:

Mr. Bxxxxx, reading your letter I agree on one point: The two World Trade Center towers were certainly not brought down by isolated kerosene fires. You fail to mention that both towers were struck by 150 ton jumbo jets traveling at hundreds of kilometers an hour. This explains the presence of aviation-grade kerosene, also known as jet fuel. Call me naïve, but when I witness two 300,000 pound planes strike two buildings, and those buildings collapse, I’m convinced it’s because of the planes. As are the legions of physicists, mathematicians, structural, mechanical, civil and chemical engineers who have studied this occurrence intensively. In what area of expertise do you hold a degree?
You state that almost half of Americans believe US government involvement in this atrocity. You are either mistaken or lying. The most recent Scripps Howard survey shows that 36% (not even half-way between 25% and 50%) of Americans believe the US government was either “very likely” or “somewhat likely” involved.
Do you believe the US government was involved? Are you implicating all 435 Members of Congress, all 100 Senators, and every member of the President’s Office? Or just the Bushies?
I’m no fan of the Bush administration, but I cannot believe that they attempted to murder upwards of 20,000, and did murder almost 3,000 of their fellow citizens. For what purpose? To justify a war? If that is so, why didn’t Mr. Bush authorize the planting of WMDs in Iraq? That certainly would’ve silenced many of his critics.
So how, exactly, was the US government involved? The notion that explosives were used to demolish those buildings is absurd. It sure didn’t work in 1993. At 133.8 meters (439 feet), the J. L. Hudson building in Detroit is the world record holder of being the tallest structural steel building ever imploded by controlled demolition, on 24 October 1998. It took a 12 person crew 24 days to place the 1,240 kgs (2,728 lbs) of explosives, run over 11,000 meters (36,000 feet, or almost seven miles) of detonation cord, and torch-cut most of the building’s steel beams. This is after a 21 person crew took three months to investigate the building and prepare the implosion design. WTC towers One and Two were 3.1 times taller than the Hudson building, and tower Seven was 1.46 times taller. How big would the crews have to have been to rig these three buildings? How long would it have taken? Remember, those buildings were open basically 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Did no one who worked there ever notice the fresh drywall and wet paint that would have been necessary to conceal those explosives?
Again, who in the US government was involved, and how, exactly?

But the Star recently dropped their word limit fron 500 to 300, so here's my edit:

Reading Mr. Bxxxxx’s letter I agree the World Trade Center towers were not destroyed by isolated kerosene fires. Both towers were struck by 150 ton jumbo-jets traveling at 714 kph and 874 kph. This explains the presence of aviation-grade kerosene, or, jet fuel. Call me naïve, but when I witness two 300,000 pound planes strike two buildings, and those buildings collapse, it’s likely because of the planes. The physicists, mathematicians, metallurgists, structural, mechanical, civil and chemical engineers who’ve studied this agree.
He states almost half of Americans believe in US government involvement in this atrocity. He’s mistaken. The most recent Scripps-Howard survey shows 36% of Americans believe the US government was either “very likely” or “somewhat likely” involved.
How was the government involved, exactly? I’m no fan of George Bush, but I can’t believe he attempted to murder 20,000 US citizens and did murder almost 3,000.
To think explosives were used is absurd. It sure didn’t work in 1993. At 133.8 meters, Detroit‘s Hudson building holds the world record for tallest structural steel building ever imploded. After a 21 person crew took three months to investigate and another four to prepare the implosion design, a 12 person crew took 24 days to place 1,240 kgs of explosives in 4,118 separate charges, lay over 11,000 meters (seven miles) of detonation cord, and torch-cut the building’s steel beams. WTC One and Two were 3.1 times taller than the Hudson; tower Seven was 1.46 times taller. When the exterior walls were looked at in cross-section, two-thirds of the surface area was outside of the buildings, precluding access. How big were the crews that rigged those buildings? How long did it take? Those buildings were open 24/7. Did no one who worked there notice the fresh drywall and paint used to conceal the explosives?

Here's the letter I was responding to:

More research needed on 9-11 building sites: As the shock and awe wears off, almost half of America now suspects U.S. government involvement in the 9-11 atrocities. Common sense is prevailing in the perception that three steel and cement towers could collapse in pulverized dust from isolated kerosene fires. I urge the Windsor Star and readers of this paper to begin researching and reporting the facts surrounding the World Trade Center building collapses in New York over five years ago. Canada must come down on the right side of history on this issue.
:words:

[PerryLogan]

The better the debunking, the less likely a conspiracy guy will be able to understand it.
--Perry Logan

[Bell]

The better the debunking, the less likely a conspiracy guy will be able to understand it.
--Perry Logan

Don't quote Perry Logan, please.

[uk_dave]

It's ok Perry, just put Bell on ignore.

:duck:Hey now!

[HeyLeroy]

The better the debunking, the less likely a conspiracy guy will be able to understand it.
--Perry Logan

Well, I live in Canada, and there are a lot less Troofers here. I was hoping my response would reach the fence-sitters.

And let me add, while I would react with disgust to this guy's letter I never would've been able to respond as I did without having read what many of the people here have posted, so thanks.[/academy award speech]

[Housefly]

Relevant to the subject? My own mother is a conspiracy theorist. In the middle of a conversation about the people who think Princess Diana was murdered I said "yeah, they've got conspiracy theories for everything. You know some people think George Bush attacked the world trade centre?"
She responded: "He did! And it can be proven..." she said something about the plane seeming to explode before it hits the building (something even the Loose Change guys dismissed as BS) and I sighed and shook my head and the conversation moved on. I didn't want to bring it back up again or I'd look like some kind of evangelist. Her stance is that her friend is a scientist (a retired biologist, I believe) and he believes it.

So now I feel like I've been personally insulted by these Truthers. They got to my mother, man.

[Mince]

That's reassuring. The Jones followers are pretty thick here in Austin. I hope they aren't listening to their guru on this one.

By the way, the continued good health of Austin stands as additional proof that everyone is not "waking up. " If everyone in Austin were waking up, we'd be a hotbed of disease by now.


By "thick" do you mean "thick"?

Or, by "thick" do you mean "thick"?

Or, do you mean "thick" and "thick"?

[PerryLogan]

Now how would I know what I mean?

I meant we have a lot of Alex Jones fans and related conspiracy types here in Austin. They're part of an invasion. They are mostly angry white guys with IQ's in the mid-80's. They spread germs, refuse to pay their traffic fines, and drastically lower the city's IQ. They bullhorn meetings without a clue as to what's going on. They do cable TV shows babbling about chemtrails, the Masons, and the Fish People. Many of them are even stupider than Alex.

They call themselves Patriots, but they sound like cop-haters. Apparently, patriotism is defined as rabid hatred of all government. You can say anything you want about a government official, whether it's true or not. A favorite insult amongst the Patriots is, "That guy works for the City."

Bunch of little pr*cks.

They say they're neither politically left nor right--but their views accord with those of the American Nazi Party, e.g., guns are as nurturing as mother's milk; fetuses are babies; the border should be closed; the UN is evil, etc.

These guys are united in "fighting the New World Order," which apparently means badmouthing everyone in sight.

Austin, Texas, is an experiment in propaganda, proving that massive exposure to conspiracy theories does not "wake people up." Alex is on cable TV constantly. He and other conspiracy nuts have numerous TV and radio shows here in town. There is even a bookstore in Austin devoted to conspiracy theories. (What next--a tin hat factory?)

But, despite all this exposure to the Higher Truth, the natives of Austin remain as sane (and funky) as ever. Half of them think Alex is funny; the other half think he's gross.

[Larry Bud]

Keep your distance! Alex Jones's fans do not get their vaccines!

UK Dave's words are well taken. There is also a health-related reason why you might NOT want to get physically close to an Alex Jones fan.

I'm not kidding. Alex says vaccines are part of the elite's plot to kill 80% of us.....

So you might want to think twice about hanging with these people. In addition to their seditious beliefs, they may pose somewhat of a public-health problem.

How are they are threat to YOU if you've had YOUR vaccines?

[PerryLogan]

Too dumb to answer--but a good reason to get your vaccines.

[Foolmewunz]

Hah hah hah... that's awesome...

I thought they were serious until I reached the Millennium Falcon! :D

So I take it the next release of Age of Empires will be back to Ancient times, but with Commanches?

-Gumboot

I like the fact that he's got the same shot for a temple in India as the one in Egypt.... My Ed, they're identical! Only an other-worldy intelligence could've done that.

ETA - sorry, didn't realize that was back on page 1. Apologies for derail.