Billiefan and other fundies vs. Harry Potter

[the_ignored]

This post (http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?postid=995069#post995069) is funny. (post #30)

...check out this site and I am getting really angry and furious that Harry Potter is considered a News Story (even a Big Story) by:


THE OMAHA WORLD HERALD

KETV CHANNEL 7 ABC

WOWT CHANNEL 6 NBC

KMTV CHANNEL 3 CBS



but:


http://www.raptureready.com


must not be mentioned by these guys no matter what and I am sick of the coverup here and I am ashamed to call myself a Omahan or a World Herald Employee cause of the massive coverup by the Omaha Media.


You would think the Omaha Media would be constantly mentioning the RR (since it is based in the Omaha area) but it is the opposite and I am a little angry most at

THE OMAHA WORLD HERALD

whom I work for cause why is it:

The Salt Lake Tribune

can do a story on the RR and yet the OMAHA WORLD HERALD

wont.

[justsaygnosis]

PLEASE don't bring the rapture ready index thread back.

[Roadtoad]

Originally posted by justsaygnosis
PLEASE don't bring the rapture ready index thread back.

Agreed. Please, let's just let the damn thing DIE.

[c4ts]

Hey guys, let's go over to that message board and... get intellectually nowhere in terms of theological discussion.

[the_ignored]

Originally posted by Roadtoad


Agreed. Please, let's just let the damn thing DIE.
whoops. Sorry.:(

[triadboy]

Originally posted by c4ts
Hey guys, let's go over to that message board and... get intellectually nowhere in terms of theological discussion.

c4ts,

Your avatar would be too scary

[Upchurch]

Back to the actual topic at hand, why wouldn't the largest selling book franchise in modern history not be news worthy?

Incedently, why do fundies have such a hard time with admited fiction about wizards and witches, etc? Lord of the Rings didn't get this much complaints and I'd consider it far less Christian than Harry Potter.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Upchurch
Back to the actual topic at hand, why wouldn't the largest selling book franchise in modern history not be news worthy?

Incedently, why do fundies have such a hard time with admited fiction about wizards and witches, etc? Lord of the Rings didn't get this much complaints and I'd consider it far less Christian than Harry Potter.

I think it is news worthy but not so news worthy as to get the amount of coverage it has gotten. You would think that the cure for cancer was hidden somewhere in its pages from the amount of time the news has devoted to it. I took my kids to a midnight release party at Barnes & Noble, there were reporters everywhere. I have seen murder trial verdicts get less attention.

As for why fundies have such a hard time with it, I think the sheer visibility of the book is the reason. Since the series is so wildly popular if they complain loudly enough they get to ride that popularity. It's the same reason they decried D&D in the 80's, Rock n' Roll in the 50's and 'The Wizard of Oz' in the 30's.

[Temporal Renegade]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep


I think it is news worthy but not so news worthy as to get the amount of coverage it has gotten. You would think that the cure for cancer was hidden somewhere in its pages from the amount of time the news has devoted to it. I took my kids to a midnight release party at Barnes & Noble, there were reporters everywhere. I have seen murder trial verdicts get less attention.

As for why fundies have such a hard time with it, I think the sheer visibility of the book is the reason. Since the series is so wildly popular if they complain loudly enough they get to ride that popularity. It's the same reason they decried D&D in the 80's, Rock n' Roll in the 50's and 'The Wizard of Oz' in the 30's.

And, do you notice that the main complaining always seems to hit hardest after a film is made? Potter had some from before, but it seems that the lion's share didn't happen until after the first movie...
can't wait to see what they make of an Elric film, though; demons and magic and possesed swords & all...

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Temporal Renegade


And, do you notice that the main complaining always seems to hit hardest after a film is made? Potter had some from before, but it seems that the lion's share didn't happen until after the first movie...
can't wait to see what they make of an Elric film, though; demons and magic and possesed swords & all...

I also notice that they (mostly) stop complaining about the previous threat once something loses it's popularity.Using my previous examples, It's been ages since I have heard of Pat Robertson and his ilk complaining about D&D, he must be too busy trying to expose the 'Evils' of Harry Potter now. It's been a long time since I heard of anyone (excpet Jack Chick) complaining that Rock music is a tool of Satan. The Wizardof Oz, even though it still has (horror of horrors) a 'good witch' is consiedered good family fare by all but the most extreme christians (which makes me wonder how many people who blast 'Harry Potter' have no problem with 'The Wizard of Oz')

An Elric movie would make them apoplectic if it were done right and stuck close to the books. It would also be a damn good movie, I think someone ought to do it.

[Dancing David]

I think that HP is very Xian in it's style and eventual plot, no paganism here.

[Temporal Renegade]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep


I also notice that they (mostly) stop complaining about the previous threat once something loses it's popularity.Using my previous examples, It's been ages since I have heard of Pat Robertson and his ilk complaining about D&D, he must be too busy trying to expose the 'Evils' of Harry Potter now. It's been a long time since I heard of anyone (excpet Jack Chick) complaining that Rock music is a tool of Satan. The Wizardof Oz, even though it still has (horror of horrors) a 'good witch' is consiedered good family fare by all but the most extreme christians (which makes me wonder how many people who blast 'Harry Potter' have no problem with 'The Wizard of Oz')

An Elric movie would make them apoplectic if it were done right and stuck close to the books. It would also be a damn good movie, I think someone ought to do it.

"Only to taunt had Nyarlathotep marked out the way to safety and the marvelous sunset city; only to mock had that black messenger revealed the secret....For madness and the Void's wild vengeance are Nyarlathotep's only gifts to the presumptuous..."
--H.P. Lovecraft

Sorry, I couldn't resist!:D

As to D&D... I'm one of the few who went to high school in the '70's, who likes Sci-fi & fantasy, and I've NEVER played it! (I've also never read LOTR, either!)

[Temporal Renegade]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep


I also notice that they (mostly) stop complaining about the previous threat once something loses it's popularity.Using my previous examples, It's been ages since I have heard of Pat Robertson and his ilk complaining about D&D, he must be too busy trying to expose the 'Evils' of Harry Potter now. It's been a long time since I heard of anyone (excpet Jack Chick) complaining that Rock music is a tool of Satan. The Wizardof Oz, even though it still has (horror of horrors) a 'good witch' is consiedered good family fare by all but the most extreme christians (which makes me wonder how many people who blast 'Harry Potter' have no problem with 'The Wizard of Oz')

An Elric movie would make them apoplectic if it were done right and stuck close to the books. It would also be a damn good movie, I think someone ought to do it.

Or a Doctor Strange movie. LOVE to see them faint over that one!

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Temporal Renegade


Or a Doctor Strange movie. LOVE to see them faint over that one!

I vguely remember hearing somewhere that a 'Dr. Strange' movie is in the works. It wouldn't surprise me since it seems that every other Marvel Comics character is getting a movie these days.

But you're right, it would go over like a lead baloon with the same crowd that calls 'Harry Potter' evil.

[jj]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
As for why fundies have such a hard time with it, I think the sheer visibility of the book is the reason. Since the series is so wildly popular if they complain loudly enough they get to ride that popularity. It's the same reason they decried D&D in the 80's, Rock n' Roll in the 50's and 'The Wizard of Oz' in the 30's.

I think D&D and Harry Potter create the same problem for a fundy. They both teach people to think, and to try to do a bit of roleplaying and put themselves in somebody else's shoes for a bit.

That thinking part and the empathy that can arise from the role-playing are absolute anathema to a fundy's goal.

[jj]

Originally posted by Temporal Renegade


"Only to taunt had Nyarlathotep marked out the way to safety and the marvelous sunset city; only to mock had that black messenger revealed the secret....For madness and the Void's wild vengeance are Nyarlathotep's only gifts to the presumptuous..."
--H.P. Lovecraft


How about "the strange high house on the hill"?????

Let's make it into a movie. Lovecraftian Pod People.

Wait, is that what happened to the fundies? :p :p :p

[Temporal Renegade]

Originally posted by jj


How about "the strange high house on the hill"?????

Let's make it into a movie. Lovecraftian Pod People.

Wait, is that what happened to the fundies? :p :p :p

With all of the technology we have now, Lovecraft just SCREAMS to be done right for a change!

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Temporal Renegade


With all of the technology we have now, Lovecraft just SCREAMS to be done right for a change!

Yeah. I think someone ought to do 'The Dunwich Horror'. I know that it was made into a movie in the 70's but it was done poorly. Out of all of lovecrafts works, it's the one I think would translate best into movie form.

'At the Mountains of Madness' could also be a good movie, done right.

By the way, I liked the quote.

[Temporal Renegade]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep


Yeah. I think someone ought to do 'The Dunwich Horror'. I know that it was made into a movie in the 70's but it was done poorly. Out of all of lovecrafts works, it's the one I think would translate best into movie form.

'At the Mountains of Madness' could also be a good movie, done right.

By the way, I liked the quote.

Feel free to use it as your sig, if ya like! :)

Of course, HPL left a LOT to the reader's imagination, which is probably why it doesn't translate too well to the screen.

[Jet Grind]

The fact that fundies are pissing and whining about Harry Potter is really pathetic. It just shows that these are people with an agenda of enforcing their moral and religious thinking on others. It's all a publicity stunt, Christians just can't stay out of the spotlight I guess.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Temporal Renegade


Feel free to use it as your sig, if ya like! :)

Of course, HPL left a LOT to the reader's imagination, which is probably why it doesn't translate too well to the screen.

Darn fine idea.

[Checkmite]

Originally posted by jj


How about "the strange high house on the hill"?????




The mist. The Strange High House in the Mist. :o

[Temporal Renegade]

The Call of Cthulhu

Just what we need...another octopod flick!:)
Now, I can really use my Miskatonic orientation pack!

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Temporal Renegade
The Call of Cthulhu

Just what we need...another octopod flick!:)
Now, I can really use my Miskatonic orientation pack!

I am not so sure that would make such a good movie. At the very least you'd have to add a lot of material to make it two hours worth of movie. Further, Hollywood would change so many things in the story that I don't know if it would bear any resemblance to the original story.

On the other hand, with good FX Cthulhu would look amazing on the big screen

[Temporal Renegade]

Or, maybe a HPL series, utilizing some of his short stories, and breaking up the longer ones as multi-parters.
Or a series based on the dreamlands, maybe?

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Temporal Renegade
Or, maybe a HPL series, utilizing some of his short stories, and breaking up the longer ones as multi-parters.
Or a series based on the dreamlands, maybe?

That might be good, years back 'Night Gallery' did an adaption of 'Pickmans Model' (If you want to see it, you can catch reruns on the Encore Mystery Channel, where I saw it. They show this one episode a lot). Thanks to 1970's special effects and a low budget the ghouls looked like rejects from a Dr. Who episode but otherwise it was pretty good and a fairly faithful adaptation of the story.

[Bluegill]

I think I'll start a Lovecraft thread over in Arts & Literature.


Edited to add: Hmmph. It appears Mr. Korosi is waaaay ahead of me.

[pgwenthold]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep


I also notice that they (mostly) stop complaining about the previous threat once something loses it's popularity.Using my previous examples, It's been ages since I have heard of Pat Robertson and his ilk complaining about D&D, he must be too busy trying to expose the 'Evils' of Harry Potter now. It's been a long time since I heard of anyone (excpet Jack Chick) complaining that Rock music is a tool of Satan. The Wizardof Oz, even though it still has (horror of horrors) a 'good witch' is consiedered good family fare by all but the most extreme christians (which makes me wonder how many people who blast 'Harry Potter' have no problem with 'The Wizard of Oz')



When it first came out, the WoO did get a lot of criticism from the religious (the concept of a "good" witch did not go over well). It is mostly accepted now, but that acceptance is a result of time. I always basically figure it had the same problems as Harry Potter but proportional to the publicity.

[Temporal Renegade]

Don't remember what they thought about the Hellraiser stuff...anybody have an idea?

[jj]

Originally posted by Joshua Korosi



The mist. The Strange High House in the Mist. :o

*whap* I'm sorry, you're right, indeed. MIST. Remember, JJ, MIST.