More remains from ground zero identified.

[CptColumbo]

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/remains-of-three-from-911-plane/20061102063809990002?ncid=NWS00010000000001

According to the article there are still 40% of the remains to be identified.

It also helps explain how the ID are done, and why it's taking so long. So the CTers might be interested.

[Kryptos]

DNA idenfication requires remains that are not degraded too much, as well as cooperation from family members. It requires matching the remains to "reference samples", which may come from banked samples (e.g. biopsy tissue), personal items (e.g. toothbrush), or biological relatives.

For some of the hijackers, it's understandable that family members have not cooperated.

Here's more information about how DNA identification works:
DNA identification in a nutshell (http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/209493.pdf)

Lessons Learned From 9/11: DNA Identification in Mass Fatality Incidents (http://massfatality.dna.gov/) - more detailed guide intended mainly for first responders, but explains the process and specifics relating to 9/11.

[CptColumbo]

DNA idenfication requires remains that are not degraded too much, as well as cooperation from family members. It requires matching the remains to "reference samples", which may come from banked samples (e.g. biopsy tissue), personal items (e.g. toothbrush), or biological relatives.

For some of the hijackers, it's understandable that family members have not cooperated.

Here's more information about how DNA identification works:
DNA identification in a nutshell (http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/209493.pdf)

Lessons Learned From 9/11: DNA Identification in Mass Fatality Incidents (http://massfatality.dna.gov/) - more detailed guide intended mainly for first responders, but explains the process and specifics relating to 9/11.

I assumed that most of the matches would have to be done with relatives. I thought the article put it in simple enough language that the CTers who don't watch any of the "CSIs" could understand.

[Orphia Nay]

Thanks for the handy links, CptColombo and Debunk911Myths.

I just found an interesting article by someone working at the NY Office of the Chief Medical Examiner on 9/11, and it details some of the procedures involved.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1282305

'Remote-controlled plane' CTists: please detail in which part of the procedure was the plane passengers' DNA 'faked', the organisations & individuals involved, and your plans to bring them to justice.

[geggy]

So we agree that the fire was small and the heat was not sufficient enough to melt the steel, let alone the bones from passengers of flight 11?

[Gravy]

So we agree that the fire was small and the heat was not sufficient enough to melt the steel, let alone the bones from passengers of flight 11?1) Get this, geggy: the heat in the towers didn't melt any steel. That's your ignorance on display.

2) Get this, geggy: hundreds of human remains were ejected from the aircraft and towers.

297, geggy! Three more stupid posts and you're in the Hall! Is your acceptance speech ready?

[Beerina]

They will be finding remains from this a thousand years from now. It's idiotic to think they can possibly sweep it all, no matter how intense and prolonged and expensive the attempt.

[CptColumbo]

IMO the problem was that they couldn't realistically shut down lower Manhattan for the weeks & months it might take to conduct a thorough search.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

So we agree that the fire was small and the heat was not sufficient enough to melt the steel, let alone the bones from passengers of flight 11?

http://www.nata2.info/humor/flash/badger.swf

[Alt+F4]

They will be finding remains from this a thousand years from now. It's idiotic to think they can possibly sweep it all, no matter how intense and prolonged and expensive the attempt.

Very true. One or two people die each year in France by coming across World War I ordnance.