God once again the cause of a plane crash

[firecoins]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/cory.lidle.ap/index.html

Apparently god was not happy with the NY Yankees and blew Chuck Lidle's plane into a building.

[Crungy]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/cory.lidle.ap/index.html

Apparently god was not happy with the NY Yankees and blew Chuck Lidle's plane into a building.

How stoopid do they think we r? Did the NTSB check for signs of remote controll piloting? Prolly not! :rolleyes:

[Donal]

I still say Steinbrenner was trying to cut payroll. A-Rod went and had an accident a week later.

And the really messed up part is that Liddle was the only Yankee to hit something all October.

[Mince]

How stoopid do they think we r? Did the NTSB check for signs of remote controll piloting? Prolly not! :rolleyes:


Why did the NTSB completely ignore WTC 7 in their report?

[Bell]

No wind has ever blown an airplane into a building before!

[firecoins]

Are you saying that since this building didn't collapse that the WTC 1 & 2 should not have?

[Housefly]

I don't know if you fellas are so hot about being linked to the Loose Change site but this is too good to miss. Killtown wrote a comedy article (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=543&st=0#entry8532227) about the Lidle crash over at Loose Change.

At least... I hope it's a comedy article.

[DanKirby]

I don't know if you fellas are so hot about being linked to the Loose Change site but this is too good to miss. Killtown wrote a comedy article (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=543&st=0#entry8532227) about the Lidle crash over at Loose Change.

At least... I hope it's a comedy article.

Killtown is essentially a parody of himself at this point.


...Unless the real Killtown was captured by the CIA, and that post was really made by government agents out to make him look totally loony and discredit the entire movement!! :eek:


...Nah, he does a pretty good job of that on his own.

[Crungy]

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this sinster crash, which not only defies all logic, but also violates physics laws.

Two planes collide in mid air, and the smaller one emerges relatively unscathed, but the large plane plunges to a firey death? That's a violation of the laws of momentum. I don't think so!

The transponder mysteriously decides to stop working?!

There is only one word to describe all this........CONSPIRACY!!!!


RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — The flight recorder transcript from the executive jet involved in Brazil's worst air disaster shows that the jet's American pilots were told by Brazilian air traffic control to fly at the same altitude as a Boeing 737 before the planes collided over the Amazon rainforest, the Folha de S. Paulo newspaper reported Thursday.
According to Folha, the flight recorder shows American pilot Joseph Lepore receiving instructions from the tower in Sao Jose dos Campos to maintain an altitude of 37,000 feet as it flew beyond Brasilia on a northwest path to Manaus. That altitude contradicted the pilots' filed flight plan as well as established norms, which reserve odd-numbered altitudes for southbound flights.

Brazil's Defense Ministry can't confirm the report, spokeswoman Flavia de Oliveira said Thursday, and won't have more information until air force officials return Monday from Canada, where black boxes from both planes were sent for analysis.

Folha, Brazil's largest-circulation daily, did not reveal how it had obtained the transcript. The air force, which oversees Brazil's air traffic controllers, has not yet released it to Brazilian federal police investigating the Sept. 29 crash, let alone National Transportation Safety Board investigators who are participating in the probe.

All 154 people aboard Gol Airlines Flight 1907 were killed when the Boeing 737 crashed into the dense Amazon jungle after clipping the Embraer Legacy 600 executive jet.

The Legacy's pilots — employees of ExcelAire Service Inc. of Ronkonkoma, N.Y. — were flying the Brazilian-made jet on its maiden voyage back to New York, and managed to land the badly damaged jet safely. They've been ordered to stay in Brazil during the investigation.

An American lawyer for ExcelAire in Brazil said the Folha report supports the pilots' testimony to investigators.

"As we've maintained from the beginning, the pilots were cleared to Manaus for flight at three-seven-zero (37,000 feet) at the time of departure, and we're confident that anyone that is able to hear the tower tapes or see a transcript of the instructions issued by the Sao Jose tower will hear the exact the same thing," attorney Robert Torricella said.

The tower instructions reported by Folha may have been the first of a series of problems that led to the crash. As the Legacy approached Brasilia, the plane lost radio contact with the control tower. The Legacy's transponder, which signals the plane's location to the tower and other airplanes, also stopped working. Just what prevented the radio and transponder from working remains unclear, but from that point on, both the pilots and the air traffic controllers lacked critical information. Controllers had no way of knowing the smaller plane's altitude.

Brazilian officials have insisted that the Legacy should have returned to its original flight plan after losing contact with the control tower. That plan would have mostly kept the smaller jet at 36,000 feet after Brasilia, and out of the path of the 737, which was flying at its customary altitude of 37,000 feet. Instead, both planes remained on a collision course.

But aviation experts say air traffic controller orders always take precedence over flight plans. They've also questioned why the controllers didn't order the larger jet to change course just to be safe, since they lacked altitude information on the smaller jet at the time.

Ten flight controllers who were working during the collision are on paid leave from their jobs, undergoing psychiatric treatment.

Brazilian officials also have seized the passports of the two pilots — Lepore, of Bay Shore, New York, and Jan Paladino, of Westhampton Beach, New York — and they have remained in a Rio de Janeiro hotel while the probe drags on, delayed in part by the air force's reluctance to turn over the transcript.

The air force has explained the delay as normal under the Convention on International Civil Aviation, also known as the Chicago Convention, which is designed to protect information given voluntarily to investigators.

Torricella called on Brazilian investigators to suspend the criminal probe until the accident investigation allows for "frank disclosure of all the facts," and to allow the American pilots to return home in the meantime.

"It is unreasonable to expect them to remain here, essentially under confinement, while what could be a lengthy accident investigation continues," he said.

Meanwhile, a work slowdown by air traffic controllers has provoked severe flight delays across Brazil. The controllers have complained that they are understaffed, overworked and underpaid despite robust Brazilian commercial flight growth, and that extra safety precautions imposed after the deadly collision are yet another reason to improve working conditions.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[switchtech]

Funny how the argument for the conspiracy runs around the lack of "wing marks" - as if composite wings must damage steel and glass. The argument against revolves around "Why would the Government fake this?" Neither side will (or can) answer the other and the wheel keeps turning. (EDIT: Oops, how about "brick and glass" rather than "steel and glass")

Even if the skeptics prove that composite wings don't leave any more damage than observed the conspiricist will cry "Fowl - you're a Government Shill, we can't accept your science!" These people feed on themselves to the point they loose their grip on reality. These people can vote and serve on juries!

Speaking of which: GO VOTE!

jbs

[firecoins]

Funny how the argument for the conspiracy runs around the lack of "wing marks" - as if composite wings must damage steel and glass. The argument against revolves around "Why would the Government fake this?" Neither side will (or can) answer the other and the wheel keeps turning. (EDIT: Oops, how about "brick and glass" rather than "steel and glass")

Even if the skeptics prove that composite wings don't leave any more damage than observed the conspiricist will cry "Fowl - you're a Government Shill, we can't accept your science!" These people feed on themselves to the point they loose their grip on reality. These people can vote and serve on juries!

Speaking of which: GO VOTE!

jbs

What city in the US is more populated than NY? None! Yet they act as if the federal gov't moves around with being seen at all causing all sorts of havoc. Like the Federal gov't has nothing else to do.

[Housefly]

I heard that if Jews twiddle their nose they become invisible. Bearing in mind that scientific fact, the "unseen conspirators" theory starts to make a lot of sense.

[firecoins]

Well NYC has the largest population of Jews in North America. Hmmm

[maccy]

I don't know if you fellas are so hot about being linked to the Loose Change site but this is too good to miss. Killtown wrote a comedy article (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=543&st=0#entry8532227) about the Lidle crash over at Loose Change.

At least... I hope it's a comedy article.

Killtown is still arguing that the Lidle crash was faked over on LCF:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4463

[Unsecured Coins]

And the really messed up part is that Liddle was the only Yankee to hit something all October.

*drumroll*

[beachnut]

No wind has ever blown an airplane into a building before!

So it was God who made my plane over shoot the runway by a 1/4 mile and make me look so smooth lining up like spastic pilot on drugs? I thought it was because I did not double the drift on downwind for the time of my turn to final.

I knew it was not my fault. But gee a 1/4 mile would get someone with buildings near by in trouble. Glad there are no buildings next to my runway that day.

[boloboffin]

So it was God who made my plane over shoot the runway by a 1/4 mile and make me look so smooth lining up like spastic pilot on drugs? I thought it was because I did not double the drift on downwind for the time of my turn to final.

I knew it was not my fault. But gee a 1/4 mile would get someone with buildings near by in trouble. Glad there are no buildings next to my runway that day.

Don't hack off God. Buildings next to your runway can be arranged.

[fuelair]

Dog works in mysterious ways, his murders to increase.