Magic Water - the Shocking Truth!

[Cuddles]

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19225764.200-ice-steam-liquid-and-now-a-new-type-of-water.html

There really is a fourth state of water. I wouldn't recommend trying to drink it though.

[Jocky]

I wonder if this sort of water will turn out to have the "memory" which homeopaths are so fond of talking about :D

[joobz]

I wonder if this sort of water will turn out to have the "memory" which homeopaths are so fond of talking about :D
not to sound stupid, but what "memory" I've never read into homeo lit. to see that arguement.

[Fnord]

www DOT 0disease DOT com SLASH 0mwater DOT html

The "theory" is that water molecules retain a record of what they've come in contact with. This "theory" was first put forth by purveyors of "Quartz Elixers" that are nothing more than tap water that has been allowed to soak some quartz crystals for a few days.

In New Age Mysticism, this is called "Contagion" or "Contamination" -- an inert substance that comes in contact with an active substance "remembers" the active substance and thus takes on some aspect of the active substance.

Thus, we have devout Catholics touching pieces of cloth to the bones of long-dead "saints" in the belief that doing so imparts the cloth with some sort of healing power.

(Rhetorical Question: If there is so much healing power in the bones of a centuries-old saint, then why don't those bone heal themselves and restore that saint to life?)

This is also the basic "theory" behind the voodoo doll, which is an object that contains items that have been in contact with the victim, and thus whatever is done to the doll, the victim will feel.

"Voodoo Chemistry" == "Magnetic Water"

(I know my reasoning is not up to par today -- I've committed a fallacy or three -- but at least you now have something with which to start your own investigation.)

-Fnord of Dyscordia-

[joobz]

Ahh, thought it'd be something like that.

just as an aside, you can actually have a polymer with taht kind of property. If you polymerize a hydrogel containing some small fraction of ionic and cationic monomers in the presence of some small molecule, you can create spaces within the polymer that are preferentially geared to fit that molecule.

but water in it's liquid form doesn't do that.
no no no

[jimtron]

not to sound stupid, but what "memory" I've never read into homeo lit. to see that arguement.
Water Memory

[YouBelieveWHAT?]

It's amusing that the first entry in "See Also" for the Wiki article on Water Memory is:

Junk Science

Well - it made me smile anyway..

YBW

[Jocky]

Thanks for providing the very coherent explanation, Fnord :)

The thing which most amuses me about water memory: the water I drink will remember that once upon a time it was in my toilet :eek:

[rjh01]

I do not see the process being used to create or store Hydrogen. It needs to be done at very high pressures and lots of energy in the form of x-rays used. Hence high costs.

[Cuddles]

I do not see the process being used to create or store Hydrogen. It needs to be done at very high pressures and lots of energy in the form of x-rays used. Hence high costs.

Yeah, not very practical. But still pretty cool.:)

[Samnite]

Very cool. I think you can expect to see the "processing cost" come down if it turns out that it could be useful from a technological standpoint. That's how it normally works.