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Mephisto
7th November 2006, 07:48 AM
The background of Diebold is really interesting, especially now that they're regretting getting into the voting machine business.

Rage against the machine

Diebold struggles to bounce back from the controversy surrounding its voting machines.

By Barney Gimbel, Fortune writer-reporter

Fortune Magazine) -- Here's a five-step plan guaranteed to make an obscure company absolutely notorious.

First get into a business you don't understand, selling to customers who barely understand it either. Then roll out your product without adequate testing. Don't hire enough skilled people. When people notice problems, deny, obfuscate and ignore. Finally, blame your critics when it all blows up in your face.

With missteps like those, it would be hard to succeed in the gumball business. But when your product is the hardware and software of democracy itself, that kind of performance gets you called not just incompetent but evil - an enemy of democracy. And that is what has happened to Diebold Inc. (Charts) of Canton, Ohio, since it got into the elections business in 2001.

The move seemed like a good idea at the time. The $3 billion public company, whose core products are ATMs, bank vaults and security systems, had just sold 186,000 voting machines to Brazil, where they delivered a quick and clean count in the 2000 elections.

Surely, Diebold reasoned, it could duplicate this success closer to home. "We thought if we got this right," says Thomas Swidarski, the company's CEO and president, "then we could do it across the globe."

But faster than you can say hanging chad, things went wrong. In early 2003, activists found a version of Diebold's secret software on the Internet. The code had so many security flaws that one group would later post a video of a chimpanzee changing votes.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/11/13/8393084/index.htm?cnn=yes

Darth Rotor
7th November 2006, 07:52 AM
The background of Diebold is really interesting, especially now that they're regretting getting into the voting machine business.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/11/13/8393084/index.htm?cnn=yes
The Brazillian government should probably sue for a refund.

DR

Mephisto
7th November 2006, 08:00 AM
The Brazillian government should probably sue for a refund.

DR

I agree, especially if George W. Bush was voted in as President of Brazil. :)

Darth Rotor
7th November 2006, 08:08 AM
I agree, especially if George W. Bush was voted in as President of Brazil. :)
No way he'd have beaten Ronaldo. :D

DR

wastepanel
7th November 2006, 08:20 AM
I love my hometown companies. We're also home to Timken, and the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The Republicans tell me I should pay attention to other things besides DieBold...oh wait...football!

Wheezebucket
7th November 2006, 08:31 AM
I saw a little documentary on HBO called 'Hacking Democracy' about these machines. It didn't exactly inspire confidence in the system.

Good thing I don't vote, anyway.

Luke T.
7th November 2006, 09:03 AM
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Luciana
8th November 2006, 12:49 PM
But if voting machines were rigged in Brazil, how come hundreds of polling institutes around the country (including private ones, non-profits and university-based) got results with amazing accuracy, all within their margin errors? Elections this year were for President, Governor, Congressmen (2, federal and State) and Senator. Plenty of opportunity for polling institutes to show their worth.

Also, I know the software was locally modified. As for the machines, less than 0.4% were defective, and it must be taken in consideration that they were transported to middle-of-nowhere, Amazon, under Ed-only-knows what conditions.

The machines per se are excellent. Any person can use it, including illiterate people and old ladies.

In the run-off, 120million votes were counted in less than 4 hours, and it only took a full 6h because some states started to count later because of time zones (3).