Tally it up - Troofers in Congress - A head count

[T.A.M.]

A place where we can post any Troofers who actually make it into congress tonight. I am betting it will be a short list, maybe even a no starter.

TAM

[jhunter1163]

I believe the number now is zero and is likely to remain so.

[stateofgrace]

Are you guys voting on something over there?

(Only kidding).

[Sword_Of_Truth]

This is a win-win situation for the twoofers. If they don't get any seats, they get a new conspiracy theory.

They are, after all, 84% of the country, right? How else could they lose?

[Bell]

What's to vote? The US is a police state. The Jews/Zionists/NWO run it (and the world). The winners have long be decided during sekrit meetings at the Bohemian Grove. Wake up!

[Oliver]

Where can i watch the momentary results? :o

[Bell]

Where can i watch the momentary results? :o

[edit]

That was stooped of me...

ETA: CNN

[Triterope]

Bob Bowman isn't getting clobbered nearly as badly as expected. It's 52-48 so far, with 15% in.

[Triterope]

Update on the Bob Bowman race...

According to local supervisor-of-elections websites, which have more complete information than CNN at the moment, the results for FL-15 are as follows:

BREVARD COUNTY: Weldon leads 56,734-44,335, 89.7% reporting.
http://www.brevardelections.org/results-1.htm

OSCEOLA COUNTY: Weldon leads 10,388-9,765, 87.6% reporting.
http://www.osceola.org/Files/Department/SOE/GEMS%20ELECTION%20SUMMARY%20REPORT.pdf

INDIAN RIVER COUNTY: Weldon leads 19,182-12,245 with 31 of 55 precincts in.
http://www.voteindianriver.com/enrsummary.aspx?eid=79

POLK COUNTY: No results yet, but only a tiny part of Polk County is in this district, so it should not matter much to the final tally. (In 2004, it was 2.7% of the total number of votes.)

So Dave Weldon (R) leads Bob Bowman (D) 86,304 to 66,345, or approximately 56-44. The two biggest counties in the district are almost 90% in, and the third-biggest is about half in.

After doing some quick and possibly flawed math, I figure there are about 44,000 votes left to count. Bowman has to make up 20,000 votes, which means he'll need to be about 75-25 from here on out -- mostly in Indian River and Brevard, in which early returns have gone at least 56-44 against him.

So you can stick a fork in Bob Bowman. But I must admit, the race is closer than I thought it would be.

[Anti-sophist]

I'm not up to date on who the trooth candidates even are... can someone give me a run down on who I'm cheering against?

[apathoid]

So you can stick a fork in Bob Bowman. But I must admit, the race is closer than I thought it would be.

Now way he should've gotten 45% of the votes. We are never going to hear the end of this from the Deniers; they'll say that it was likely much more than 45% and the only reason it was so low was because it was rigged. I can see them now claiming 50-60% support for the Troofiness movement based on this race alone.

I'd actually like to see the demographic of those who voted for him. I'm guessing most were probably completely unaware of his 9/11 Denial(hopefully). I cant imagine most Dems knowing this and being OK with it.....and his opponent should've taken every opportunity to highlight his nuttiness during his campaign - it seems he didn't.

[Childlike Empress]

....and his opponent should've taken every opportunity to highlight his nuttiness during his campaign - it seems he didn't.

He did, but it was not based on reality. I like Bowman, he is everything but a nutter. Great result for him. 12 min speech (http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-3537043072552916987)

@Anti-Sophist: Here (http://911readingroom.org/vote_911truth/)'s a list. Tarpley had a bunch of them on his show (http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Tarpley06.html) last saturday.

[LashL]

Great result for him.

Yes, losing is a "great result".

Got it.

[Childlike Empress]

43+% is a great result for a "nutter". Got it now?

[apathoid]

He did, but it was not based on reality. I like Bowman, he is everything but a nutter. Great result for him.


If Weldon did take his shots at Bowman, then the result is even more suprising. If I lived in a district where a conservative Rep. were running against a Dem Truther, I'd stay home.....I could not, in good conscious, vote for either. Reason #1141 to hate the 2 party system.

[Childlike Empress]

It surprises you that you are not representative?

[Triterope]

Now way he should've gotten 45% of the votes. We are never going to hear the end of this from the Deniers; they'll say that it was likely much more than 45% and the only reason it was so low was because it was rigged. I can see them now claiming 50-60% support for the Troofiness movement based on this race alone.

Undoubtedly, but so what. They can fabricate whatever poll numbers they want; it won't change reality. Lord knows they've tried before. The proof of the irrelevance of their movement is in the number (and type) of people who show up for their rallies, their complete inability to agree with each other on the most basic facts of the matter, and the increasingly stupid arguments they have to raise to justify their belief. Seriously: Star Wars Death Beam?

I'd actually like to see the demographic of those who voted for him. I'm guessing most were probably completely unaware of his 9/11 Denial(hopefully). I cant imagine most Dems knowing this and being OK with it.....and his opponent should've taken every opportunity to highlight his nuttiness during his campaign - it seems he didn't.

Well, he did and he didn't. Weldon (the Republican incumbent) pointed out Bowman's nutty beliefs when he could, but this just wasn't a hotly-contested race. Bowman had no war chest; according to OpenSecrets.org he spent about $75K, almost all of which was raised through private donations. Weldon spent about $600K. I doubt either national election committee devoted much to this race; it's a safe Republican district. I doubt very many people knew anything about Bob Bowman other than that he was running as a Democrat.

Keep in mind, this district is adjacent to Mark Foley's district. His little shenanigan is known to have upset several local House races. Both Foley's district (FL-16), and an adjacent district (FL-22), went from solidly Republican to being up for grabs. Bowman undoubtedly benefited from this localized anti-GOP backlash.

I live in the area, and 9/11 conspiracy theory just wasn't part of the local dialogue leading up to the election. If you go to tcpalm.com (local newspaper)and look up Bob Bowman's candidate questionnaire, he doesn't mention it at all.

[Anti-sophist]

If Weldon did take his shots at Bowman, then the result is even more suprising. If I lived in a district where a conservative Rep. were running against a Dem Truther, I'd stay home.....I could not, in good conscious, vote for either. Reason #1141 to hate the 2 party system.

I severely doubt that a landslide congressional race had enough money to really publicize this. The vast majority of these votes are Dems in Florida voting straight Democratic.

It's also worth pointing out that double-digit losses in normal politics is like losing a basketball game by 100 points. It means the two people didn't even belong on the same ballot...

[W6102LA]

CNN Poll: 90% Believe US Government Covering Up 9/11

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/cnn_poll2.htm

Gee..you'd think the Truth Canidates would win in a landslide

:p

[LashL]

43+% is a great result for a "nutter". Got it now?

Right. Keep telling yourself that losing is a good result if that makes you feel better.

The same thing happens in my home city every 4 years when the resident nutcase takes on the mayor. Sometimes he gets 25% of the vote, sometimes he gets 40% of the vote... it depends on how pissed off the constituency is with the mayor at the moment.

But knock yourself out if it makes you feel better to believe otherwise.








Then ask the voters.

Got it?

[Childlike Empress]

:D Dude, you are a sad, bitter cynic.

[Triterope]

CNN Poll: 90% Believe US Government Covering Up 9/1190%? Wow, it's up from 86%. What happens when they hit 100%? Do we all start vanishing, or what?

[LashL]

:D Dude, you are a sad, bitter cynic.

I'm guessing that you're talking to someone else since I'm not a dude, I'm not sad and I'm not bitter. Cynical, sure, but that's beside the point

Edit to add: Oh, and now that I've read more of the thread, it seems obvious that you must have been referring to someone on an entirely different forum and that you have confused this forum with one or more of the tinhat forums that you frequent, as there are no sad, bitter, cynical dudes here (other than the tinhatters who pop in now and then).

[apathoid]

I live in the area, and 9/11 conspiracy theory just wasn't part of the local dialogue leading up to the election. If you go to tcpalm.com (local newspaper)and look up Bob Bowman's candidate questionnaire, he doesn't mention it at all.

Thanks Triterope, pretty much as I thought. It is interesting that Weldon chose not to trash Bowman; I think even the area Dems wouldnt mind being alerted to the fact that their man is a possibly insane paranoid goofball...

[apathoid]

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/cnn_poll2.htm

Gee..you'd think the Truth Canidates would win in a landslide

:p

Two words:

Diebold! :D

[Sword_Of_Truth]

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/cnn_poll2.htm

Gee..you'd think the Truth Canidates would win in a landslide

:p


Did you see the date on the poll in that link?

Nov 10th, 2004. A couple days after Bush won his 2nd term in a landslide.

Twoofers poll numbers are just like their mathematical/scientific calculations... they're completely made up.

[Triterope]

Thanks Triterope, pretty much as I thought. It is interesting that Weldon chose not to trash Bowman; I think even the area Dems wouldnt mind being alerted to the fact that their man is a possibly insane paranoid goofball...

I work very near a county Democratic Party office down here, and I thought about walking in and expressing my concern with their candidate, but... hey, if they need my help to weed out an obvious wacko like Bob Bowman, they've got much bigger problems.

[Triterope]

In other election news, Coleen Rowley, who does not appear to be a CT but whom the Deniers have included in their various candidate lists, is down 57-39 in her House race (MN-2).

EDITED TO ADD: With Samm Simpson and Bob Bowman defeated in Florida, the Deniers only have third-party and independent candidates still alive, AFAIK. And most of the ones I've looked up have struggled to get 2% of the vote.

[CptColumbo]

Some in the CT community will probably see Bowman's defeat as 150,000 more people in on the conspiracy.

[LashL]

In other election news, Coleen Rowley, who does not appear to be a CT but whom the Deniers have included in their various candidate lists, is down 57-39 in her House race (MN-2).

EDITED TO ADD: With Samm Simpson and Bob Bowman defeated in Florida, the Deniers only have third-party and independent candidates still alive, AFAIK. And most of the ones I've looked up have struggled to get 2% of the vote.

But but but... since 25% of the population are admitted "retards", and since something like 8-+% of the population are supposedly of the view that 9/11 was an inside job (according to tinhatters who don't know how to read poll data), how on earth could anyone in the retard/tinhat faction get only 2% of the vote?

Must be a ...









Conspiracy!

:cuckooclo

[Unfit4Command]

That CNN poll must not be speaking the truth at this point. Or maybe all of the truthers who aren't old enough to vote just attacked the poll to make it look like an overwhelming majority of America believes there is some type of cover-up.

[beachnut]

Bob Bowman , the bow man, thank goodness this nut is not going to DC

I wrote to his guys and tried to warn them to drop the 9/11 junk. But there were some idiots like Bowman in the USAF.

After seeing the bow man on TV, I have to say he is just plain nuts! I hope I am not over qualified to make this statement.

[Unfit4Command]

Bob Bowman , the bow man, thank goodness this nut is not going to DC

I wrote to his guys and tried to warn them to drop the 9/11 junk. But there were some idiots like Bowman in the USAF.

After seeing the bow man on TV, I have to say he is just plain nuts! I hope I am not over qualified to make this statement.

Is he the guy who walked around with the portable DVD player and kept showing people the collapse of WTC 7?

The people who saw that must have read Gravy's paper and realized how much of a nut he is and decided not to vote for me. Besides, what kind of campaign is that? "Look at WTC 7 collapse, CD right? Now vote for me and I'll...start a 9/11 investigation." What else did he plan on doing? Nothing?

[Triterope]

Is he the guy who walked around with the portable DVD player and kept showing people the collapse of WTC 7?

I think that was Matt "Send Me A Buck" Woodson, of Oklahoma. Last I checked, he had 2% of the vote in his race.

[Unfit4Command]

I think that was Matt "Send Me A Buck" Woodson, of Oklahoma. Last I checked, he had 2% of the vote in his race.

Oh wow, he got pretty close there.

[Childlike Empress]

Edit to add: Oh, and now that I've read more of the thread, it seems obvious that you must have been referring to someone on an entirely different forum and that you have confused this forum with one or more of the tinhat forums that you frequent, as there are no sad, bitter, cynical dudes here (other than the tinhatters who pop in now and then).

And you are boring.

[Brainster]

43+% is a great result for a "nutter". Got it now?

Well, in fairness to the skeptics, Bowman does have the terrific-appearing resume. And in fairness to the 9-11 Denial Movement, I predicted he'd lose by more than 25 percentage points.

My conclusion? Very few people in this district voted based on 9-11 Denial. Weldon probably took the brunt of complaints on Iraq and still won by 12 points.

[Bronze Dog]

I find it funny that a CTist would be able to call someone else a cynic. After all, don't most CTist believe that some eeeee-ville manipulative people control everyone and everything through either money or fear, and that there's no such thing as a whistleblower because everyone with good evidence is either greedy enough to take bribes or too cowardly to speak up?

At least that's the general vibe I get.

[LashL]

And you are boring.

Perhaps it seems so to "retards" and the under-educated who don't understand and can't follow the conversation. Sorry about your limitations.

[gtc]

43+% is a great result for a "nutter". Got it now?

What percentage of the vote did Hitler get?

Hey, I am just asking questions.

[celestrin]

The people who saw that must have read Gravy's paper and realized how much of a nut he is and decided not to vote for me.
:confused:
Are you saying you were in the election race? Are you saying you're Bowman? Woodson? Fitrakis? Anyone else on CEmpress' list (http://911readingroom.org/vote_911truth/)?

[MikeW]

My favourite result was this one (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/CA/H/14/). Carole Brouillet was officially a Green candidate but was strong on "911 truth", Brian Holtz was officially a liberal but was strong on debunking her nonsense (see the points at the top of his site at http://marketliberal.org/), including TV debates apparently. Brouillet only got around 2% of the vote, which shows the appeal of this when it's not tied to a candidate for a mainstream party... And better still, Holtz scored a handful of votes than she did, so the debunkers won out!!

[NoZed Avenger]

Aren't there 1 or 2 members already elected who have at least entered fringe CT area?