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Sal The Butcher
19th November 2006, 11:13 AM
does anyone NOT think this is insane?


http://www.paranormalreview.com/News/tabid/59/newsid368/11/mid/368/Default.aspx

Will the testimony of someone recalling a crime experienced in a past life be permissible in a court of law? That’s the question that has caused a sensation in India.



The victim, Mahipal, has now made a deposition accusing his former friend, Ved Prakash, of killing him, and he even pointed a finger at him in court.

the kid is 5 BTW

The Central Scrutinizer
19th November 2006, 11:19 AM
Death to Ved!!!

We have to stop pampering these cold blooded killers.

LashL
19th November 2006, 11:26 AM
does anyone NOT think this is insane?


No.

That is definitely insane.

ChristineR
19th November 2006, 12:06 PM
I'd say it's not insanity, it's child abuse. The boy is supposedly his own uncle, and he has been tutored by the family.

wombatwal
19th November 2006, 01:57 PM
What, do you all expect any better from superstitious people.

fuelair
19th November 2006, 02:45 PM
No -only from a court that would even consider it.

This Guy
19th November 2006, 08:31 PM
This would be a nice racket for anyone that could take a bunch of kids, have them make claims like this, and collect some form of compensation for them. All in the interest of the child of course! ;)

Not that there's any examples of adults taking advantage of children in India of course!

http://www.missingindiankids.com/index.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5231022.stm

In a rush, not enough time to find more links. But it appears to be pretty bad for many of the young in India :(

Zygar
20th November 2006, 01:07 AM
Pure genius. When I need to get rid of my associate in India I will make use of this...

JonnyFive
21st November 2006, 10:40 AM
Why do I get the feeling that, if this guy actually did kill his friend, this example will be cited as "proof" of past lives by the woo-woo train?

CynicalSkeptic
21st November 2006, 01:00 PM
This line from the article convinced me.
This may sound complicated but there are numerous cases on record of reincarnation seemingly occurring within families.

Minarvia
21st November 2006, 01:36 PM
I can't help but wonder about the cases which cite reincarnation occurring within families. Doesn't that just give the so-called reincarnee (is that a word?) a good dose of family history to draw on for the so-called memories? And those souls who want to stay in one village have the history as well? Well, I suppose that will keep those pesky skeptics from asking for a language that person cannot speak or other obscure details from a lifetim in another country.

JonnyFive
21st November 2006, 01:58 PM
It's also interesting that these cases appear to occur more frequently in cultures with some kind of widespread belief in reincarnation.

Maybe the souls from other countries don't even know it's an option or something.

Minarvia
21st November 2006, 02:00 PM
It's also interesting that these cases appear to occur more frequently in cultures with some kind of widespread belief in reincarnation.

Maybe the souls from other countries don't even know it's an option or something.


Good one! :) This made me smile after reading a thread that is beginning to frighten me a little. For what it's worth, thanks!

KingMerv00
21st November 2006, 02:04 PM
He killed me!!!!


.....


I got better.

JonnyFive
21st November 2006, 02:04 PM
Good one! :) This made me smile after reading a thread that is beginning to frighten me a little. For what it's worth, thanks!

Much obliged.

Seriously though, it is scary to think that someone might actually be convicted of a crime based on the "past life" testimony of a five year old child.

Cause, you know, kids never make anything up or anything. Ever.

On another note, if they really believe in the reincarnation, then how serious is murder? Wouldn't it be akin to, say, destroying someone's property (their possessions from the current life), or identity theft (stealing their current life's progress)? Then again, I suppose the death penalty wouldn't be such a big deal either. Wow, that really warps one's view of the world, doesn't it?

Marc L
21st November 2006, 02:31 PM
He killed me!!!!


.....


I got better.

That's because you were only mostly dead.

Marc

KingMerv00
21st November 2006, 02:34 PM
That's because you were only mostly dead.

Marc

The kid came back from the dead to blave.

Minarvia
21st November 2006, 05:54 PM
Much obliged.

Seriously though, it is scary to think that someone might actually be convicted of a crime based on the "past life" testimony of a five year old child.

Cause, you know, kids never make anything up or anything. Ever.

On another note, if they really believe in the reincarnation, then how serious is murder? Wouldn't it be akin to, say, destroying someone's property (their possessions from the current life), or identity theft (stealing their current life's progress)? Then again, I suppose the death penalty wouldn't be such a big deal either. Wow, that really warps one's view of the world, doesn't it?

Gah, I know! And if India is anything like the U.S., then other people will suddenly come forward with all sorts of similar accusations and then the Salem Witch Trials (so to speak) will begin all over again. :covereyes

elaine
21st November 2006, 06:08 PM
The kid came back from the dead to blave.

LOL

I need to see that again. What a classic.

Minarvia
21st November 2006, 06:35 PM
LOL

I need to see that again. What a classic.

You know, I'm still newbish enough that that "blave" flew right over my head and hit the back wall. Does it mean a combination of "believe" and "rave?"
Hmmm..for that matter, I don't know what the single word "bump" means in the odd post I see here and there...:confused:

Looks like that little word "scholar" under my name is quite misleading!

elaine
21st November 2006, 06:38 PM
You know, I'm still newbish enough that that "blave" flew right over my head and hit the back wall. Does it mean a combination of "believe" and "rave?"
Hmmm..for that matter, I don't know what the single word "bump" means in the odd post I see here and there...:confused:

Looks like that little word "scholar" under my name is quite misleading!

Reference to the movie Princess Bride. Have you seen it?

Minarvia
21st November 2006, 08:12 PM
Reference to the movie Princess Bride. Have you seen it?

Not for years, but I believe cable is showing it. I'll have to give it another look! If it isn't showing, my nephews love that movie and likely have it on tape.

Skeptic Guy
21st November 2006, 08:24 PM
"...and there was no chance of the boy ever having seen him until they met again in court."

Mmmm, hmmm..

Dark Jaguar
21st November 2006, 08:28 PM
What, do you all expect any better from superstitious people.

Yes.

Having BEEN very supersticious and silly gives me an understanding of what it's like and how easy it is to be so silly (rational thinking requires eternal vigilance, or at least enough to last a lifetime). However, I also don't just sympathize and say "oh those poor fools who can never better themselves". Rather, I just get angry because I know they CAN.

JonnyFive
22nd November 2006, 07:38 AM
Rather, I just get angry because I know they CAN.

Definitely. There's just no excuse for this crap in the 21st century. If they claim to be from a past life and someone's freedom/life is at stake, then someone needs to prove this is more than just some kid making up stories because of a pervasive cultural belief.

It's akin to using astrology in a murder trial. We have all this knowledge available, and excellent means to determine the probable truth of such claims, but some people choose to head down the woo route all the same. That is frustrating, because I know it's not so different, say, in the United States (Sylvia Brown, anyone?).

Loss Leader
22nd November 2006, 09:50 AM
Will the testimony of someone recalling a crime experienced in a past life be permissible in a court of law?

Well, I'm sure you're all on pins and needles waiting to find out but the answer, at least in the US, is, "Um ... no."