Woo squared.

[kellyb]

http://www.orgoneproducts.org/orgone_radionix_box.php

Cigar boxes filled with dirt for the low, low price of $99.95.
It's like...woo plus woo...multiplied by woo. Times woo to the hundredth power. Plus woo.

In case anyone isn't up on their woospeak, "orgone" has something to do with chemtrails and bad vibes from power lines.

Hoo boy...

ETA:
From the same site...hahaha..
Arts and crafts day at the wooitorium...with scientists from the 1930's...or something.
http://www.orgoneproducts.org/theory.php

ETAA:
But wait...there's more!
http://www.orgoneproducts.org/orgone_lamps.php

My mother used to make lamps out of liqour bottles and fill them with marbles. I have continued the tradition but of course I am using Orgone instead of marbles. I will take requests on this item. I will mostly use absolute and other types of vodka bottles. The clear bottles show the Orgone quite well. Orgone has the capacity to control the weather and bring friendly ET's. It creates a worm-hole in the matrix. With all the earth changes coming up, it is a good idea to have a bit of Orgone around the house and the yard; especially in your live in hurricane territory or Tornado alley.

BEHOLD!
I have found the Woocleus!

[Ducky]

Well at least you can grow some peas from seed in it. That's more useful than those stupid pyramid thingies to keep food fresh and razors sharper.


ETA:

The Woocleus? That's bloody classic.

[wahrheit]

The Ark was the Covenant was a very expensive Orgone box. Gold and acacia wood. Think of the Possibilities.
[sic! No typos, plain copy & paste from the link)

Er, I'm speechless. This is really fantastic stuff! :rolleyes:

[Jeff Corey]

They even got the Fibronacci series wrong. And Reich was poisoned in jail by The Gumment?

[kellyb]

Another one of their products:

http://www.orgoneproducts.org/products.php

Precious Prills
Placing common water in contact with Precious Prills causes a remarkable thinning of that water. The resultant liquid is known in nature as "Dew". Dew is about half the thickness of common water.

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

Woocleus.

~~Paul

[fuelair]

Orson Bean used to believe this stuff. He's dead now. He was some sort of celebrity back in the 50's or so. Wilhelm Reich was associated with it as I recall.

[Foolmewunz]

Aren't these whackjobs breaking a number of laws? If they can shut down the bracelet nuts, certainly these guys all oughta be in jail!!!
They're friggin' well recommending alchemy to regrow teeth and reverse aging! Woo is one thing. Scamming and frauding is another.



http://www.orgoneproducts.org/monoatomic.php

¼oz bottle $60 Free Shipping on Domestic Orders.
Anti-Aging Formula

Our Rejuvenation Foruma is designed to induce rejuvenation of the physical body, mind and spirit.

Compound of the Gem elixirs of Jade, Germanite, Stibnite, Lapis Lazuli, Monazite and Neptunite. Monazite is a green mineral that is comprised of the original 14 Primordial earth elements, a main component of the White Gold utilized by Secret societies for centuries. Germanite combined with Monazite is capable of inducing the elimination of deuterium oxide or heavy water from the body, the primary cause of aging according to some scientists, due to the accumulation in fatty tissues drastically slowing down the metabolic processes of the body. Stibinite is composed of Antimony and Sulphur. Sulphur is of course one of the four basic elements within Alchemy tradition, a vital ingredient for Youthful skin tone. The Legend of Oil of Antimony created by Albertus Magnus is reported to have caused total Physical rejuvenation back to the age of 20 by inducing the purging all all toxic matter from the body at once causing complete regeneration, including the re-growth of new teeth.

Is anyone reading a resident of New York State? Shouldn't this guy be reported to the AG office? (I guess I can from here, but a complaint from Hong Kong just seems weird....)

Payable also by Check or Money order to:

Kevin Courtois
441 E. 20th St. Apt.2A
New York, New York 10010

[Foolmewunz]

Follow up ..... Never mind.... Reported them myself! After reading some of the claims for the BS they're selling, they are completely reprehensible. :spjimlad:

Elliot Spitzer's office has a good on-line reporting function. I submitted Orgone Products. (I live in Hong Kong, but I own an apartment in Manhattan so I used my "legal domicile".)

:woowoo

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

....my head hurts.....

[Mick Houlahan]

Check "Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science" by Martin Gardner for a nice chapter on Reich and orgone.

[Foolmewunz]

....my head hurts.....

Hmmm? Headaches... Let's see, we've got some nice rocks here in a dirty sock. That ought to cure you.

Or you could take some of these magic elixirs at a mere sixty bucks a bottle. :woo

[Mojo]

http://www.orgoneproducts.org/orgone_radionix_box.php

Cigar boxes filled with dirt for the low, low price of $99.95.
It's like...woo plus woo...multiplied by woo. Times woo to the hundredth power. Plus woo. The Little black Duck's Quackometer (http://www.quackometer.net) Awarded it 10 Canards (the maximum rating): The quacking noise is deafening. This web site is riddled with loosely defined terms and possibly pseudoscientific language with huge sprinklings of alternative medicine mumbo jumbo. It is heavily using scientific jargon and may be doing this to bamboozle. Using lots of physics terms like this rarely has any meaning outside of physics books. It shows no sceptical awareness and so should be treated with a suspicious mind. It also looks like this site is trying to sell stuff. Buyer Beware!

[goak69]

As a Swede I would much prefer to have vodka in the Absolut (swedish vodka actually) bottle than any typ of woodirt... :D

[articulett]

Does anyone know if orgone keeps the government from reading your thoughts? Does it curtail the bad vibes and evil of the illuminati. I have got to get me some of this stuff. $99.00 is a small price to pay for piece of mind. :)

(And congratulations Kellyb--you really HAVE found the woocleus--I'm sure your planets were aligned amazingly and your chakras were glowing in neon to stumble across that gem...I will share the good news and try to keep from taking credit for the discovery--)

[wombatwal]

Thanks for the URL kellyb.
I overspent on my credit card on that site.
I particularly liked the AlchemiaNova Xenon Water, the Orgone Zapper and the Xcalibur Colloidal Silver.
I will pass the URL to all of my friends, they will be thrilled.
(http://forums.randi.org/)

[YouBelieveWHAT?]

"Magnetize the perfect mate into one's life"

Wouldn't that be inconvenient, with loads of metal objects being attracted as well?

Yup - another laugh out loud moment!


YBW

[brettDbass]

Sadly it's not all humour.
There are some potentially very harmful claims being made on this site too.

Dying of terminal illness? Fear ye not, just buy a Zapper(TM)
CANCER
Five years of anecdotal information convinces me that most Cancer can be treated in a month, even in very advanced and aggressive cases. The exceptions are when radiation and/or chemo have been used. I believe as many others do, that radiation and chemo are more often responsible for death than the cancer for which they are prescribed.
HIV / AIDS
This seems to be one of the easiest to treat, as the virus is apparently not very resistent to electric current. I've never seen it fail to cure this disease,even when he patient was in late stages. An hour or so a day of zapping is sufficient.
GENITAL HERPES
This is the most virulent STD I’ve encountered. I’ve have not had anyone to committ to using the zapper around the clock. It is similar to Lyme’s disease, and I see no reason why this one won’t be cured as well. Genital warts are cured in 2-3 days.
MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS
Recently(fall of 2000), two people who had very advanced MS committed to using them around the clock. Both of them experienced very rapid healing; including being able to walk unaided and without fatique. They regained bladder and bowel control and their brain lesions were eliminated.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Foolmewunz]

Sadly it's not all humour.
There are some potentially very harmful claims being made on this site too.

Dying of terminal illness? Fear ye not, just buy a Zapper(TM)

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Agreed. That's why I reported the site to the New York Attorney General's office. This kind of thing has to be something that can be prosecuted.

[brettDbass]

Very well done, FMW.
This is the kinda stuff keeps me coming back here, again and again.

[RemieV]

Where is this guy getting all the empty vodka bottles?

[Ducky]

I believe as many others do, that radiation and chemo are more often responsible for death than the cancer for which they are prescribed.


That statement just makes me wanna punch someone.

[RSLancastr]

Orson Bean used to believe this stuff. He's dead now. He was some sort of celebrity back in the 50's or so. Wilhelm Reich was associated with it as I recall.Bean is not dead. He recently appeared in an episode of Two and a Half Men.

He started out as a Broadway actor, but later became best known as a game show panelist in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s.

I wasn't aware of his Orgone connection, but sad to say, he evidently wrote a pro-Reichian book called "Me and the Orgone" about his experience with Reichian therapy.

It would be interesting to find out if he still believes it.

[Yahzi]

This all makes a lot more sense when you realize how he gets the empty alcohol bottles.

:D

[Foolmewunz]

I wrote Jeff and Randi and asked them to use the 'bully pulpit' that is SWIFT to expose this parasite.

Dear Jeff and/or Randi,

I’m sending this from my business address, as I, myself, don’t appreciate anonymous (or pseudonymous) emails.

I’m a member on your forums (FOOLMEWUNZ). I’m anonymous on the forums because of the position I hold in the firm below. I sometimes get into discussions of trade and sourcing issues regarding China and India, and do not want to cross the line and comment on the business of any of the larger companies whose sourcing business I manage (company names removed, to name just the American companies). My name is rather well known in the industry and if I were to comment on (say) labor practices at a “large consumer goods factory in Suzhou”, for instance, it could be viewed as a breech of confidentiality. As long as I’m salaried by my company, this is something I shouldn’t do. Thus the nom de plume (an obvious play on “fool me once, shame on you, etc…”, or at least I thought so….)
>Above merely in the way of explication. I’m normally completely against hiding behind a computer screen.

To the matter at hand and the reason for this mail…. In a thread on the forum, someone stumbled across a company calling itself Orgone Products. I’m an aging hippie and have been ‘round the block a few times with Orgone and knew it still had its proponents, but this site is offering medical claims about its products that are not just worthy of scam-busting, but likely in need of prosecution. I’ve reported them to the NYS Office of the Attorney General, but I think you have the “bully pulpit” and hope you deem this worthy of the exposure.

http://www.orgoneproducts.org/index.php

What’s so reprehensible, I hear your skeptical mind asking? We have a lot of fun on the forum with wooish beliefs, as you know. They deserve the ridicule. That’s how this little research started. He’s making ridiculous claims like his anti-aging elixir. Snake-oil salesman, extraordinaire, no doubt…..


Anti-Aging Formula

Our Rejuvenation Foruma is designed to induce rejuvenation of the physical body, mind and spirit.

Compound of the Gem elixirs of Jade, Germanite, Stibnite, Lapis Lazuli, Monazite and Neptunite. Monazite is a green mineral that is comprised of the original 14 Primordial earth elements, a main component of the White Gold utilized by Secret societies for centuries. Germanite combined with Monazite is capable of inducing the elimination of deuterium oxide or heavy water from the body, the primary cause of aging according to some scientists, due to the accumulation in fatty tissues drastically slowing down the metabolic processes of the body. Stibinite is composed of Antimony and Sulphur. Sulphur is of course one of the four basic elements within Alchemy tradition, a vital ingredient for Youthful skin tone. The Legend of Oil of Antimony created by Albertus Magnus is reported to have caused total Physical rejuvenation back to the age of 20 by inducing the purging all all toxic matter from the body at once causing complete regeneration, including the re-growth of new teeth.
¼oz bottle
$70



Free Shipping on Domestic Orders.

The rejuvenation claim above is not-so-subtly concealed in the last sentence in that Albertus Magnus IS REPORTED TO….. This kind of caveat gets you off the legal hook, no doubt. Anyone dumb enough to fall for this and pay seventy bucks for it deserves to part with his money. But, as I said, this is just the kind of crap that makes you shake your head in disbelief. Alas, when I read further on some of his products I started to realize that this is one dangerous site.



How about treating cancer, Lyme’s Disease, HIV, Herpes, MS, and a host of other diseases?



From their “research” page: http://www.orgoneproducts.org/research.php

Spelling and grammar is theirs. Bold Italics are my comments.





HIV / AIDS
This seems to be one of the easiest to treat, as the virus is apparently not very resistent to electric current. I've never seen it fail to cure this disease,even when he patient was in late stages. An hour or so a day of zapping is sufficient.



A month! To cure HIV with a little zapping! The CDC must be beating a path to their door as I type!


ATHEROSCLEROSIS / HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE
High Blood pressure is caused when the body sends cholesterol to coat fungal lesions in the arteries, as one would patch a punctured inner tube. This keeps happening as long as the fungi are forming more lesions. Before long cholesterol build up on the insides of the arteries constricting the flow of blood and decreasing its elasticity. Killing the fungi with an Orgone zapper causes this process to reverse. The body will dissolve and remove the build-up overtime in the absence of Parasites. Blood pressure returns to normal. Fungal lesions are also present in all cases of Atherosclerosis. May be an explanation why Eskimos, Pacific Islanders and African cowherders who all have a "high cholesterol" diet of saturated fats have minimal incidences of Atherosclerosis. Atherosclerosis became widespread in western countries after the introduction of ANTIBIOTICS which promote fungal growth in the body. Antibiotics which are derived from fungi themselves only kill some bacteria. They eliminate the competition, but allow the fungi to flourish. Hence it can be reasonably assumed that Fungi infestation is the cause of Atherosclerosis.



Bad science. Bad advice. Dangerous. Somehow I’d never heard that AS or high blood pressure was fungal in origin. I could’ve saved my mother’s life with this device! Dangerous ********!



CANCER
Five years of anecdotal information convinces me that most Cancer can be treated in a month, even in very advanced and aggressive cases. The exceptions are when radiation and/or chemo have been used. I believe as many others do, that radiation and chemo are more often responsible for death than the cancer for which they are prescribed.

This is beyond comment!


As I mentioned, I’ve already reported the site to the AOG in New York State. I’ve also sent out an email to friends in New York (I’m formally a resident) asking them to do the same. The site kindly provides the name and address of one Kevin Courtois (in his never-ending greed he wants to make sure he can get checks by mail and not just rely on credit cards and PayPal) on E. 20th Street. A little Googling finds that he’s been on an alternative radio (web-based) show in Chicago, but not much more. I’ve got a friend who tends bar nearby, and he tells me the address is an apartment building. (Not that that means anything, other than this is a web-based cottage business.)

Anyhow, I know you guys can click pages as well as I can, so I’ll spare you the forty or fifty other cuts I was going to include from his offerings. I do hope, though, that you’ll find the time to expose this charlatan to the glaring light of day.



Thanks for listening. (I omitted the obligatory opening about having been a fan for years. Consider it appended.)

[articulett]

It looks like there's a new strain of woo, and it abuses the scientific notion of DNA to sound official:
http://www.dnaperfection.com/

[RemieV]

It looks like there's a new strain of woo, and it abuses the scientific notion of DNA to sound official:
http://www.dnaperfection.com/

This is what I wrote to the DNA people:

Where is the evidence that any of what you say is true? I'm completely willing to sink money if you show a shred of evidence. Let's start with evidence that primitive humans communicate telepathically.

Thanks,
A. Smith

[JonnyFive]

Agreed. That's why I reported the site to the New York Attorney General's office. This kind of thing has to be something that can be prosecuted.

Absolutely. There's no reason why people should be allowed to make such misleading claims regarding real health benefits. They stand a good chance of genuinely hurting people who simply don't know well enough to know that orgones and aura cleansing and what-not are all bull plop.

[suekaufman]

Hello, I am a new member and came to this thread via an interest in Kevin Courtois and his "orgone workshop." Apparently this zapper factory and orgone operation is going on right below my aunt's apartment.

I would like to report this scam to the proper authorities, can anyone advise me who I might contact? He has taken over a rent-stabilized apartment to conduct what looks like dangerous experiements (I notice from his webpage many opened cans of solvents and other volatile chemicals right next to a heater. I am worried about a possible explosion.

Any help or advice would be greately appreciated.

thank you.

sue kaufman