Democrats go back on promise to implent all commission findings.

[firecoins]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/29/AR2006112901317_pf.html

[rwguinn]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/29/AR2006112901317_pf.html

And this is a surprise?
There is not a dime's worth of difference between the people in office (R), (D) or (I)--they are there for the prestige and power--to seem important. Once in office, they devote their energy to staying there.
kind of like Loose Changers....

[firecoins]

And this is a surprise?


No surprise. I guess they are in the conspiracy too, the one to stay in power.

[Pardalis]

Left-wing gate keepers. ;)

[aggle-rithm]

It's all part of an elaborate tapestry of deception: Bush masterminds the 9/11 attacks so that he can start an unpopular war that causes his party to fall out of favor, all leading up to the goal of the grand scheme: Paving the way for the GOP's triumphant comeback in 2010!! Or maybe 2012. Definitely at some point in the future.

Of course! It's so clear now!

[defaultdotxbe]

It's all part of an elaborate tapestry of deception: Bush masterminds the 9/11 attacks so that he can start an unpopular war that causes his party to fall out of favor, all leading up to the goal of the grand scheme: Paving the way for the GOP's triumphant comeback in 2010!! Or maybe 2012. Definitely at some point in the future.

Of course! It's so clear now!
maybe bush is just a patsy for the liberal plot for global domination

[firecoins]

maybe bush is just a patsy for the liberal plot for global domination
where is Jack Ruby when you need him?:cool: ***






***(to the Secret Service) I am not advocating shooting the President of the United States!

[PerryLogan]

Could we maybe wait until they take office? What BS.

[firecoins]

Could we maybe wait until they take office? What BS.
politics is ongoing. its fluid. They are preparing their leadership and agenda for the new Congress now.

[Larry Lovage]

I don't get it. The Keane Commission recommended ("most strongly") that Congress should have more power and funding control over the various intelligence agencies, via the Intelligence committees.

And the new Democratic Congress is rejecting those recommendations.

Why would congress balk at giving themselves more power? Probably because, as actual legislators, they are perhaps more cognisant of the limitations of the legislature to perform this kind of oversight and yet retain the kind of flexibility that an efficient intelligence community would require to react to the fast-changing world situation. In other words, Congress is saying "Oh, you don't want us in charge of that!"

Another thing I don't get - the Keane Commission and the report they produced are constantly denigrated by the Truthers as being a "government whitewash", and also at having ignored blatant intelligence failures. But their most important recommendation seems to have been to take the control of the CIA and NSA out of the hands of the Executive and into the hands of the elected representatives of the people. Which implies that the Keane commission was simultaneously criticising the Intelligence activity and the Bush administration!

[firecoins]

further more, Bush oppossed the creation of the commission, underfunded it, would not testify alone and under oath and suppossedly did not give all the necessary papers depending on who you listen to.

The Democrats were highly critical of Bush for not implementing all the findings and now the Democratic Congress won't either. Huh.

[jujigatami]

I don't get it. The Keane Commission recommended ("most strongly") that Congress should have more power and funding control over the various intelligence agencies, via the Intelligence committees.

And the new Democratic Congress is rejecting those recommendations.

Why would congress balk at giving themselves more power? Probably because, as actual legislators, they are perhaps more cognisant of the limitations of the legislature to perform this kind of oversight and yet retain the kind of flexibility that an efficient intelligence community would require to react to the fast-changing world situation. In other words, Congress is saying "Oh, you don't want us in charge of that!"

Another thing I don't get - the Keane Commission and the report they produced are constantly denigrated by the Truthers as being a "government whitewash", and also at having ignored blatant intelligence failures. But their most important recommendation seems to have been to take the control of the CIA and NSA out of the hands of the Executive and into the hands of the elected representatives of the people. Which implies that the Keane commission was simultaneously criticising the Intelligence activity and the Bush administration!


LArry,

youre misunderstanding a lot here.

The 9/11 commission didn't recommend "take the control of the CIA and NSA out of the hands of the Executive and into the hands of the elected representatives of the people."

They recommended taking funding the various intelligence agencies (something that always, always is and has been a power of congress) out of the Ways and Means committee and putting that power in to one of the intelligence commitees (there are several, and I don't remember which one they specify, if they even do).

This seems like a good idea to me, Ways and Means has the responsibility for designating pretty much all of the funding in our 3.5 trillion dollar budget. Its an enormous task. There is a reason that W&M is regarded as the most powerful commitee in DC. They designate everything frrom how much the CIA gets to how much the FDA gets to research artificial insemination of chickens.

I do believe that an intel commitee should have budget control instead of W&M. But this would require a pretty massive reorganization of congressional powers, has nothing to with Bush or ANY president's day to day control of the Intel agencies.