Pam Anderson and Homeopoathy

[Andonyx]

Anyone catch Sam Rubin's interview with Pamela Anderson?

That would be KTLA, Los Angeles, or WGN Chicago, possibly others....

I don't have a transcript but when asked about her Health she had something along these lines to say:

I'm good, I'm really good actually. My livier is in better condition now than it was when I was first diagnosed with Hepatitis. It's a big mystery and the doctors don't know why. I'm not on any medication at the moment, I mean I take homeopathic medicine, but that's just to keep my immune system up.

Great.

I guess the good thing is that she comes off as so completely clueless in her general manner and speech that she's kind of an Anti-Poster child for homeopathy. I would be willing to bet though that her doctors have a pretty good idea of what's going on with her liver, it's just that SHE couldn't understand the explanation.

Crud.

Does this go in the medical forum now? Arrgh...resisting change....losing forum skills....can't adapt......

[Fade]

From the mind of Pamela Anderson

Gee my chest sure is huge.

I wonder what that man is talking about.

Liver? What's that... oh.. it's something inside me? OH NO IS IT SOME SORT OF.. oh it's an organ

Hep.. Hepa... Hephatiltous..? Okay.

Wow my chest sure is huge today.

Caused by.. wha?

BIG WORDS.. BIG WORDS ! OH THE PAIN!!!!!

.....

.....

gee they are really, really large, aren't they

god he must not know what he's talking about..

I wonder if that $50 an ounce bottle of homosexual water is why I am feeling better.

that must be it.

Okay bye Mr. Labcoat!

[Rastelli]

Walgreen's is spending bajillions advertising (mostly on the radio) an in-house pain relief rub called (I believe) PK-5. The claims sounded too good to be true, so I went in and checked it out. Sure enough, it's homeopathic, though that's not mentioned on the ads.

Guess what. It's "guaranteed!"

This is a pharmacy chain; shouldn't they be interested in science (I suppose ethics is too much to hope for)? I recommend everyone go into their local Walgreens and spend some time shaming the pharmacist, who will have a science education background, and will surely be aware of the scam that is homeopathy.

Rastelli

[soccer_ref]

As I mentioned in another thread, last week I ran across a pharmacist at a party who was recommending homeopathic medicines. It seems a scientific education is no guarantee against woo-wooism

[calladus]

Anyone see that the Ralphs chain of grocery stores is supporting homeopathy?

In California, their pharmacy had a kiosk outside of it that described different medicines and treatments, homeopathy was explained, (but not in the detail that the average smart person would need to discredit it as a viable drug.)

It said that homeopathy was effective!

[Quasi]

Yep,

And remember not only is it disproven, but they don't have to tell you what is in the actual product!
Ingredients: 100.0000% water. But that won't sell many potions, will it?

[kittynh]

well, how long has it been around?

I found this quote from Abrahan Lincoln, so I guess he was pretty smart/

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

Did Lincoln really say that? I hope so, because is darn good.

~~Paul

[kittynh]

said during the LIncoln Douglas debates!

I don't know why it's never quoted, probably too many people believe in homeopathy.

Found it in ,"Leo Rosten's Carnival of Wit" by Leo Rosten

[SteveW]

I sure wish Pamela Anderson would have said what she was using. It must be some growth thing. Darn she looks good - and Stripperella is the best!

BTW - I went to school with Sam Rubin and he was a putz.

[Ralph]

Originally posted by calladus
Anyone see that the Ralphs chain of grocery stores is supporting homeopathy?

In California, their pharmacy had a kiosk outside of it that described different medicines and treatments, homeopathy was explained, (but not in the detail that the average smart person would need to discredit it as a viable drug.)

It said that homeopathy was effective! Your typical chain pharmacy sees the actual pharmacy part of the store simply as a hook to get them inside. They make most of their profits on all the other crap they sell.....including..unfortunately.....homeopathic & many other useless concoctions........This is one reason I work in a hospital....not a retail store.

I could not...in good conscience...tell people this crap does anything but lighten their wallets................Ralph

[calladus]

I know that Chain Department stores are only in the business of making money, and damn the customer (sorry for the generalization - I'm sure there could be a chain store that has some honor to it, I just haven't found it yet.)

What ticks me off is that companies prey on people who don't know any better. And I get ticked off even more that these people refuse to learn, even when the information is presented to them.

[BTox]

There was a blurb in the paper today about this, with Pamela still claiming her hepatitis C is "getting better" due to only homeopathic treatment. I wonder if she'll continue to use homeopathy after her liver transplant :rolleyes:

It also said Anderson "researched" her options thoroughly before making this decision!

[RC]

I could be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure that Anderson underwent "traditional" Hep C treatment after diagnosis. Meaning Pegasys or interferon or whatever the standard is these days (I think it's a combo of the two). I'll do some research, but I remember when she was diagnosed and the articles were clear that she was going to undergo treatment and that she'd be out of commission for awhile.

Hep C treatment is not ongoing. You take it for a period of time and then you're done.

Based on this first post, Anderson isn't saying that she's taking homeopathic treatment for her liver or the Hep C, but for her immune system. My understanding is that she's done with her Hep C treatment.

We can argue about her decision to take homeopathic treatment for her immune system, but she isn't saying that she chucked traditional Hep C treatment for homeopathic. Let's be accurate when discussing this stuff.

[RC]

Ah, like I said it's important to be accurate and I now withdraw my above comments. I've done some research and Anderson had indeed not undergone standard treatment and is doing some kind of homeopathic treatment. It's probably too early for her to do interferon anyway if her liver is doing okay.

Thing about Hep C is it's not like you are close to death when diagnosed. The fact that her liver is doing better than when she was diagnosed is no great surprise, and I'm not sure why she's saying her docs find it to be a mystery. The liver is a hardy thing and rebounds. My partner was diagnosed with chronic Hep B and liver cancer at end stage when he started bleeding internally, but his liver improved for a few months before he got critically ill.

She's a bad spokesperson for the disease. She needs to learn to speak accurately about her illness and the various treatments.

[Eos of the Eons]

She needs to learn to speak accurately about her illness and the various treatments.

:roll:

Do you realize what that would take to happen? A bloomin miracle. Speak accurately? About treatments? LOL!

Okay, I just found that so ironic. It's pamela anderson we're talking about here.

Oh, and she was just quoted in our local paper....in defense of chickens 'treated badly by KFC'.

Yes, she feels KFC should stop treating their chicken bads.

I say stuff it. I like my chickens chopped up and cooked. There's no way around 'treating chickens good' unless you don't intend to eat them. KFC buys chickens, they don't raise them.

Pam can't even defile a chicken abuser properly, so how could anyone expect her to speak accurately about a disease and its treatment?

[Psi Baba]

Kittynh's post above (7th post from top) has taken on a whole new tone since she changed her sig. And Paul's response is even funnier!

[Giambattista]

Originally posted by Eos of the Eons


I say stuff it. I like my chickens chopped up and cooked. There's no way around 'treating chickens good' unless you don't intend to eat them. KFC buys chickens, they don't raise them.


Wrong. If you had taken the opportunity to research the subject you would know that PETA just wants KFC to start treating their birds the way Burger King and McDonalds already do. That is, PETA successfully lobbied Burger King and McDonalds to force higher standards on their suppliers. KFC is resisting that pressure. PETA's success with Burger King and McDonalds disproves the common wisdom of the defeatist who believes that corporations are incapable of cleaning up their act and responding in a manner that satisfies the citizenry.

[RonSceptic]

Pammy and Homeopathy.

The funny thing is that when I tore my calf muscle recently my physio tried to persuade me to take homeopathy pills to take my swelling down.

Go Figure.

[voidx]

Originally posted by Giambattista


Wrong. If you had taken the opportunity to research the subject you would know that PETA just wants KFC to start treating their birds the way Burger King and McDonalds already do. That is, PETA successfully lobbied Burger King and McDonalds to force higher standards on their suppliers. KFC is resisting that pressure. PETA's success with Burger King and McDonalds disproves the common wisdom of the defeatist who believes that corporations are incapable of cleaning up their act and responding in a manner that satisfies the citizenry.

While I'm not a big fan of PETA, and while I think the websites they've put up to boycott KFC(www.kfccruelty.com), Wendy's(www.wickedwendys.com), etc. paint the information and facts in an intentionally over-the-top, and not entirely accurate fashion: I must give them credit for affecting changes in the standards of factory farms. Like any industry there is always room for improvement and scientific studies have shown better ways to care for the livestock, and as a direct result, also improve the quality of the food supply they produce. Its unfortunate that PETA must always fly the flag of don't eat meat, only eat "organic" products, as that part is their own personal agenda and has zilch to do with food industry standards.

[Giambattista]

I agree with you, but as a skeptical evangelist I recognize that they have to, in the words of Elmer Gantry 'sell the sizzle'. PETA warriors adopt an entire teleological lifestyle. As long as those of us who aren't brainwashed by any particular ideology point out which of their causes are valid and why, and which are not and why, we'll be OK!

[Eos of the Eons]

As with pammy's not so specific knowledge on homeopath, I'm willing to bet she does think there are KFC farms out there with KFC chickens.

She could be more specific and say that they are encouraging KFC to make sure their suppliers are treating their chickens right.

She said "KFC mistreats THEIR chickens"


By the time KFC gets their hands on them, they do the horriblest things and fry them. Chicken dismemburment:eek: But I don't want them to stop it
:D

[voidx]

Originally posted by Eos of the Eons
As with pammy's not so specific knowledge on homeopath, I'm willing to bet she does think there are KFC farms out there with KFC chickens.

She could be more specific and say that they are encouraging KFC to make sure their suppliers are treating their chickens right.

She said "KFC mistreats THEIR chickens"


By the time KFC gets their hands on them, they do the horriblest things and fry them. Chicken dismemburment:eek: But I don't want them to stop it
:D
This is true. And one of the reasons, while some may see it as necessary, I find the PETA protests unsavoury. They don't do anything to disillusion people of the fact that its not KFC that owns the chicken farms. Sure if you read far enough into those sites it states that, but right off the bat most people assume its KFC mistreating these factory animals, and that's simply not the case. PETA pressures the restaurants because the factory farms don't listen to them, so they go to their customers instead and get them to put the pressure on by passing the blame in a sense onto KFC. I agree the tactic works, but its not that far off from blackmail in my opinion.

And I'm with you all the way Eos, don't stop frying up them chickens KFC, their tasty buggers!