The Sanata Claus Hoax

[njslim]

Want to bring up a recurring problem - every December there appears a hoax
about a jolly fat man who on December 25 magically transports toys and
gifts to everyone on the planet. Supposedly this creature is called Santa
Claus. He is an obese individual with curly white hair and a long following
white beard. Dresses is a red suit with white fur trim. Is supposed to drive
a sleight which can fly pulled by 8 tiny reindeer. has magical powers of who
has been naughty or nice and can divine the intentions of people as to
what items they want others to give to them. Is assisted in these endevours
by gang of small humanoid creatures with great powers of dexterity called
"elves". This Santa creature is capable of landing on the roofs of dwellings
and teleporting himself inside via the chimney. Each year hordes of people
dress up like Santa and call themselves "Santa's helpers" supposedly to
fool guillible children into thinking will receive presents on Dec 25. Despite
numerous artists renderings no proven photograph of him exists.

Wondering what consensus of JREF is to whether this "SANTA CLAUS"
exists or is some hoax?

[Gravy]

When I was five I alerted the kids at the school bus stop to this hoax. They took it hard.

Later, I learned that my intuition was correct. http://www.baltimoremd.com/humor/santaengineer.html

[Donal]

I found a fat guy sneaking into my house one time.

Except he didn't use the chimney, He used the window.

And he had a pick up truck instead of reindeer.

And he sure as hell wasn't jolly when I found him.

[rwguinn]

Want to bring up a recurring problem - every December there appears a hoax
about a jolly fat man who on December 25 magically transports toys and
gifts to everyone on the planet. Supposedly this creature is called Santa
Claus. He is an obese individual with curly white hair and a long following
white beard. Dresses is a red suit with white fur trim. Is supposed to drive
a sleight which can fly pulled by 8 tiny reindeer. has magical powers of who
has been naughty or nice and can divine the intentions of people as to
what items they want others to give to them. Is assisted in these endevours
by gang of small humanoid creatures with great powers of dexterity called
"elves". This Santa creature is capable of landing on the roofs of dwellings
and teleporting himself inside via the chimney. Each year hordes of people
dress up like Santa and call themselves "Santa's helpers" supposedly to
fool guillible children into thinking will receive presents on Dec 25. Despite
numerous artists renderings no proven photograph of him exists.

Wondering what consensus of JREF is to whether this "SANTA CLAUS"
exists or is some hoax?
You just haven't looked at the "Raw Data"
Calling Santa a Hoax. Some people are just like sheep, who will follow any old opinion.

[Fnord]

FYI: "Santa" is really my Uncle Bob. I figured it out when I was 7 after I noticed that Uncle Bob was never around when Santa was, and vice-versa.

Plus, they both smelled like sour beer and balogna farts.

- Fnord of Dyscordia -

[bob_kark]

Santa Claus? (http://forums.randi.org/member.php?u=55)

[Marc L]

FYI: "Santa" is really my Uncle Bob. I figured it out when I was 7 after I noticed that Uncle Bob was never around when Santa was, and vice-versa.

Oh like that's evidence! Santa's never around when Batman is, either. You don't really think that Santa's Bruce Wayne as well, do you?

Plus, they both smelled like sour beer and balogna farts.

What, you think milk and cookies doesn't get old?

Marc

[Fnord]

Waitaminnitt ... Santa = Batman ... no wonder he had all those fancy gadgets!!! Those elves musta worked double overtime on the utuility belt alone!

"Robin, old chum, you wait here in the bat ... uh ... sleigh while I see how much naughtiness Catwoman has in store for me this year ..."

[NickUK]

We still believe in the magic of christmas here in the UK.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/6205942.stm

[JAStewart]

I loved believing in Santa. I'm gonna tell my kids about Santa too, it made xmas really special until you were old enough to appreciate people, not just presents.

[defaultdotxbe]

Oh like that's evidence! Santa's never around when Batman is, either. You don't really think that Santa's Bruce Wayne as well, do you?

i think his uncle bob is batman

prove me wrong!

[Brainache]

When I was five I alerted the kids at the school bus stop to this hoax. They took it hard.

Later, I learned that my intuition was correct. http://www.baltimoremd.com/humor/santaengineer.html

Why does it not surprise me that Gravy was Kindergarten Santa Debunker?

[chillzero]

We still believe in the magic of christmas here in the UK.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/6205942.stm

yup,
sure do...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/6206984.stm

[The Doc]

Haha Gravy that's awesome!

You should go into a shopping mall with a book of facts and debunk Santa! :D Then watch him aviod the argument and accuse you of a straw man because he know's he's just been slapped down by the mighty hand of Gravy.

I can actually imagine Alex Jones in a Santa outfit... is that wrong?

[tkingdoll]

I don't remember ever actually believing in Santa, but my mum certainly told us that he was responsible for bringing gifts. I guess I didn't buy it because the tags all said "To Tracy, love Mummy and Daddy".

I firmly believed in the tooth fairy though. Still do. No-one shatter my joy, m'kay?

[Oliver]

I don't remember ever actually believing in Santa, but my mum certainly told us that he was responsible for bringing gifts. I guess I didn't buy it because the tags all said "To Tracy, love Mummy and Daddy".

I firmly believed in the tooth fairy though. Still do. No-one shatter my joy, m'kay?

Okay, even if i risk to get flamed:
What the heck is the tooth fairy? :confused:

[kittynh]

Santa not only has to deliver presents to every household with GOOD children, but he has to change outfits for every country.

I know Santa is real, as the other day at the toystore a nice mommy told her child, "If you don't stop that screaming now I'm calling Santa!" Sure enough, a few moments later she pulled out her cell phone and called Santa to tell him about how "naughty" her child was being! Shut the kid right up.

[kittynh]

Okay, even if i risk to get flamed:
What the heck is the tooth fairy? :confused:

when you loose a tooth, you put it under your pillow at night, and when you wake up the tooth is gone

BUT YOU HAVE MONEY!!!!!

The tooth fairy takes your tooth and leaves the money.

(forgetful tooth fairy parents say in the morning, "oh, yeah, you DID lose a tooth! Ummm, here, the tooth fairy was in a hurry and left this $5 for you with me!" as father hastily pulls out wallet....)

Oh this does not work for seniors losing thier teeth for good.

[aggle-rithm]

I don't think I ever believed in Santa, but my parents seemed to be into it, so I just went along.

[kittynh]

http://s08.picshome.com/dbb/tooth_fairy.png (http://www.picshome.com/)

plus the tooth fairy is HOT

[Oliver]

when you loose a tooth, you put it under your pillow at night, and when you wake up the tooth is gone

BUT YOU HAVE MONEY!!!!!

The tooth fairy takes your tooth and leaves the money.

(forgetful tooth fairy parents say in the morning, "oh, yeah, you DID lose a tooth! Ummm, here, the tooth fairy was in a hurry and left this $5 for you with me!" as father hastily pulls out wallet....)

Oh this does not work for seniors losing thier teeth for good.

Thank you, Kittynh. This is a pretty good idea if
i have some children someday -uhm- i mean i
hope that the tooth-fairy will visit my children,
too if they lose their teeth. :blush:

[Trigood]

Haha Gravy that's awesome!

You should go into a shopping mall with a book of facts and debunk Santa! :D Then watch him aviod the argument and accuse you of a straw man because he know's he's just been slapped down by the mighty hand of Gravy.
I hope Gravy leaves the little kiddies alone b/c, as they say in Miracle on 34th Street, Santa is a delusion for good, unlike the 9/11 deniers' delusions....

Besides, who'd want to lose all that great Xmas music....

I can actually imagine Alex Jones in a Santa outfit... is that wrong?
:dl:

BTW, welcome Dr.Fungi (you seem kind of new).

And, while I welcome talk of the Tooth Fairy, what I want to know is, who believes in the Trooth Fairy???

[Marc L]

i think his uncle bob is batman

prove me wrong!

Nooo....nooo...I think you may have something there! Wait! Fnord, have you ever seen your Uncle Bob and Batman at the same time? If not, it may be possible that they're all one in the same! A new Trinity!

Marc

[slingblade]

Who is this Sinatra Claus, and why is this thread not about him?




Oh. My mistake. Santana Claus.




No? Santa Anna Claus?







Claus? Is that you?

[JimBenArm]

I know he's real, 'cause I saw him on the north side of the Citgo station, and he knocked down all the poles at the pentagon, and poured concrete into the center of the WTC and stuff. Really! I have proof!

[Carnivore]

I hope Gravy leaves the little kiddies alone b/c, as they say in Miracle on 34th Street, Santa is a delusion for good, unlike the 9/11 deniers' delusions....

Besides, who'd want to lose all that great Xmas music.

My parents never pretended Santa was real, largely because of my mother's childhood experience. Her parents pretended Santa was real, which she believed against her better judgement. When she found out the truth she was horrified. She figured if her parents would lie to her about something so silly, they would lie to her about anything. Kind of destroyed her trust in all adults and institutions. That's probably why I'm so screwed up and paranoid.

And I HATE Christmas music! :mad:

[Trigood]

My parents never pretended Santa was real, largely because of my mother's childhood experience. Her parents pretended Santa was real, which she believed against her better judgement. When she found out the truth she was horrified. She figured if her parents would lie to her about something so silly, they would lie to her about anything. Kind of destroyed her trust in all adults and institutions. That's probably why I'm so screwed up and paranoid.

And I HATE Christmas music! :mad:
Carnivore, have you ever seen Miracle on 34th Street? It might relate well to your situation. Then again, it might just annoy you. :D

I'm don't really remember "finding out" that there wasn't a Santa Claus. I also don't really remember "believing" in him totally -- I probably stopped believing so early that I just can't remember. But still, it was a fun pretending for years afterward... my Dad would sometimes put some jingle bells up on a poll and shake them outside our windows at about midnight on Christmas eve.

I've just always liked music in general, and singing carols in particular. Call me weird, but I listen to those 24-hour Christmas stations all thru the season. :boxedin:

My favorite Christmas record as a kid was the one by the Harry Simeone Chorale, I think it was called The Little Drummer Boy.... great stuff!

[RandFan]

I love the hoax. I love the commercialism and the materialism. I love the excessive eating and drinking. I love the lights and the music. I like company Christmas parties and family parties. It's BS but it is good BS. I understand that others don't like it. I'm honestly sorry you have to suffer it. I say don't suffer it gladly. Rage against it. Some day reason will win out and it will die but until then pass me the eggnog but make damn sure it has some rum in it.

[Zygar]

I love Xmas! But I am against the Santa Hoax. And the Sanata Hoax.

[slingblade]

I love Xmas! But I am against the Santa Hoax. And the Sanata Hoax.

Santeria Claus. No cookies. Chickens.

[Gilmar]

At work, I try to avoid the "Secret Santa" gift exchange. I want to do a "Secret Satan" exchange -- instead of gifts that bring happiness and joy, give gifts that bring anguish and horror. "Oooh, what is it? It's...my husband's left ear! Aieeee!"

[chrisa]

Move the letters around and Santa really spells Satan. Ahh, that's what it's all about. LOL.

[The Doc]

BTW, welcome Dr.Fungi (you seem kind of new).



Thanks :)

Yeah I'm working towards the 50 posts for my avatar lol.
I hope to contribute a lot to this amazing forum :D

[KillerX]

It is obvious by all the disinformation in this thread that you are all part of the consiracy. If Santa is fake the how can NORAD track him?

http://www.noradsanta.org/index.php

From now on, get your stories straight before trying to cover a lie.

[chacal]

It is obvious by all the disinformation in this thread that you are all part of the consiracy. If Santa is fake the how can NORAD track him?

http://www.noradsanta.org/index.php

From now on, get your stories straight before trying to cover a lie.

from that link
NORAD uses four high-tech systems to track Santa - radar, satellites, Santa Cams and jet fighter aircraft.


Yet they expect us to believe that on 9/11 they couldn't track four commercial aircrafts. Santas sled must aproach lightspeed on christmas eve, I mean wake up people.

[Mobyseven]

uu guyz no nothin! santas real + he is bruce wayn and batman, and he sold his sole ot satan, thats were the name cums from!

[rjh01]

Look you guys, Santa is real. You do not need evidence for Santa. Otherwise a lot of fun goes out the door.

[Marc L]

Look you guys, Santa is real. You do not need evidence for Santa. Otherwise a lot of fun goes out the door.

Pay attention to the thread title, dude. We're not arguing Santa's existence. We're arguing Sanata's existence.

Marc

[rjh01]

Pay attention to the thread title, dude. We're not arguing Santa's existence. We're arguing Sanata's existence.

Marc

You pay attention to what people are saying. Everyone mentions Santa. Only three references to Sanata. Yours is one, the title is another.

Also can you tell me what humour is please?:D

[Zygar]

Also can you tell me what humour is please?:D

Marc's post telling you that we're arguing about Sanata's existence.

[Marc L]

Marc's post telling you that we're arguing about Sanata's existence.

And the fact that rj's taking it seriously :)

Marc

[rjh01]

The Santa conspiracy vs most other CTs.

The Santa conspiracy.
No-one has been banned here for their behaviour debating this conspiracy.
Nearly everyone is actually part of the conspiracy and knows the facts.
Most people treat it as a joke.

Most other CTs.
Many people have been banned here and elsewhere for their behaviour debating this conspiracy. Elsewhere they have been banned for their views.
No-one is part of the conspiracy as their is no conspiracy.
These are a joke.