bending spoons

[firecoins]

Currently learning Banacheck's way to bend spoons.

[JollyRoger]

Currently learning Banacheck's way to bend spoons.

NOT TO INCLUDE THE DISCLOSING OF SECRETS

rats I know one real good explanation for that one,
ill hafta wait till it turns up in another part of the forum

[firecoins]

rats I know one real good explanation for that one,
ill hafta wait till it turns up in another part of the forum
If your going to TAM I am sure you can ask Banacheck yourself. He is the magical entertainment. I am so jealous of those going.

[DiskoVilante]

I was thinking, if you go ahead and fashion a spoon where a small portion of it is made out of gallium and the rest is regular metal, then you'd have a spoon that would bend/melt at room temperature.

[firecoins]

Doesn't seem to practical. I know similiar ideas have been tried though with some success.

[JollyRoger]

What about the way they break bricks in marshal arts, could they be using a similar technique??

[firecoins]

Most of the items broken by MARTIAL artists do not require superpowers to break. They are part trick and part training. They break bricks built for breaking.

[orphia nay]

I just came across this guy, Sven Rygh, bending spoons, and I thought it must be a nifty type of spoon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps2GPu5vq1Y&mode=related&search=

[NeilC]

Unlikely I think. I'm sure he'd be pleased to hear you say that since it shows he's done his job well. You can produce that sort of effect with normal spoons.

[Garrette]

I like Banachek's fork bending. It's astonishing, really.

The link of Sven Rygh bending the spoon is a good presentation.

[Brown]

I understood that Banachek prefers bending forks over spoons. Forks allow tine bends and multidirectional bends, which seem more mysterious.

Even when Banachek does bend a spoon, he often calls it a "fork" out of force of habit. This gaffe detracts from his skill, because the audience is stunned by the fact that this dope doesn't know a fork from a spoon.

Banachek is very good at covering the dirty work, but some of those who apply his methods (such as Criss Angel) aren't quite as smooth and need more misdirection to detract from their awkwardness. Indeed, if you watch video of Criss Angel, it's possible to learn how to do some of the dirty work.

[Curnir]

Banachek is very good at covering the dirty work, but some of those who apply his methods (such as Criss Angel) aren't quite as smooth and need more misdirection to detract from their awkwardness. Indeed, if you watch video of Criss Angel, it's possible to learn how to do some of the dirty work.

Oh he is great, he did a very nice knife bend at the cruise dinner.

[Grimoire]

I'm generally more impressed with someone who can do close up magic with very little misdirection (or at least very subtle misdirection). That's why I'm not a big fan of Criss Angel. He does do subtle very well.

Are there any magicians out there who straighten spoons? I've got a bunch of old ones that are a little worse for wear and could use some work... :)

Actually, that could be a pretty good trick itself. Take an obviously bent spoon and make it appear perfectly straight. I imagine that would be considerably more difficult than spoon bending...

[Curnir]

I'm generally more impressed with someone who can do close up magic with very little misdirection (or at least very subtle misdirection). That's why I'm not a big fan of Criss Angel. He does do subtle very well.

Are there any magicians out there who straighten spoons? I've got a bunch of old ones that are a little worse for wear and could use some work... :)

Actually, that could be a pretty good trick itself. Take an obviously bent spoon and make it appear perfectly straight. I imagine that would be considerably more difficult than spoon bending...

I did a couple of spoon straightenings on the cruise.. or rather faked a bend and made it appear as if I straightened it.

Mostly because the cutlery was heavy duty stuff and I am pretty weak.

[mroek]

The presentation by Sven Rygh was very nice, and for those who can't understand Norwegian: He clearly stated that he had no paranormal abilities, he said (rough translation) "I am using the five existing senses to create an illusion of a sixth sense".

I would really like to learn spoonbending like he did, many years ago (as a kid) I did some amateur magic stuff, and it was great fun. Is anyone here willing to share some insight on spoonbending, or pointers to information about it?

[Garrette]

The presentation by Sven Rygh was very nice, and for those who can't understand Norwegian: He clearly stated that he had no paranormal abilities, he said (rough translation) "I am using the five existing senses to create an illusion of a sixth sense".

I would really like to learn spoonbending like he did, many years ago (as a kid) I did some amateur magic stuff, and it was great fun. Is anyone here willing to share some insight on spoonbending, or pointers to information about it?For spoon bending, simply go to an online magic site like penguin or trickshop or Hank Lee's and search for spoon bending. You'll get lots of options.

Personally, I think Banachek's fork bending is not only more impressive but also more elegant and aesthetic. It's on one of the volumes of his four volume set (can't remember which), I think, but you should be able to buy the volume separately. It may be called "Psychokinetic Silverware," or I may be remembering an older VHS of his.

[JonWhite]

Personally, I think Banachek's fork bending is not only more impressive but also more elegant and aesthetic. It's on one of the volumes of his four volume set (can't remember which), I think, but you should be able to buy the volume separately. It may be called "Psychokinetic Silverware," or I may be remembering an older VHS of his.

Absolutely, Banachek's a great place to start.

The bending routines are on Banachek's PSI series volume 4. It and DVD's of "Psychokinetic Silverware" are still readily available from all good magic sites/shops.

[bonavada]

i know hardly anything about conjuring etc. but there did seem to be a "swap" in svens spoon bending routine.

excellent stuff though. the language barrier didn't spoil it for me.

sven has another clip there in which i detected a couple of palms, but was so distracted by the beautiful girls it didn't seem to matter :-]

BV

[Garrette]

i know hardly anything about conjuring etc. but there did seem to be a "swap" in svens spoon bending routine.

excellent stuff though. the language barrier didn't spoil it for me.

sven has another clip there in which i detected a couple of palms, but was so distracted by the beautiful girls it didn't seem to matter :-]

BVI don't think Sven does any swapping or palming; it's not necessary for what he does in the link.

I know Banachek doesn't.


Thanks, JonWhite, for remembering more precisely than I did about Banachek's stuff.

[JonWhite]

You're welcome, Garrette.

I always figure that Banachek's bending work should be required viewing for anyone who actually believes in Gellar's nonsense!

[bonavada]

I don't think Sven does any swapping or palming; it's not necessary for what he does in the link.
I know Banachek doesn't.
Thanks, JonWhite, for remembering more precisely than I did about Banachek's stuff.

i can't speak the language (norwegian?) but is the following is correct?

about 3:30 mins in, the host (?) picks a spoon, sven asks him if he wants to change his mind? the host sticks with original choice. then sven places spoons together. around this point (i think maybe :-]) a swap is performed (out of camera shot) before handing the spare spoon back to the host.

the palming mentioned above, i'm fairly certain these occurred in the other of svens youtube clips, with the three georgeous girls while he was tearing the paper.

BV

[Garrette]

i can't speak the language (norwegian?) but is the following is correct?

about 3:30 mins in, the host (?) picks a spoon, sven asks him if he wants to change his mind? the host sticks with original choice. then sven places spoons together. around this point (i think maybe :-]) a swap is performed (out of camera shot) before handing the spare spoon back to the host.

the palming mentioned above, i'm fairly certain these occurred in the other of svens youtube clips, with the three georgeous girls while he was tearing the paper.

BVYou are relaying what you saw correctly, and it is possible that sven swapped spoons. I don't know how he actually did this because this is the only time I have seen him and I have never read anything by or about him.

I am merely pointing out that it is not necessary to swap spoons to achieve the same effect, so if I were to speculate on how he did it, I would guess there was no swapping.

[bonavada]

You are relaying what you saw correctly, and it is possible that sven swapped spoons. I don't know how he actually did this because this is the only time I have seen him and I have never read anything by or about him.
I am merely pointing out that it is not necessary to swap spoons to achieve the same effect, so if I were to speculate on how he did it, I would guess there was no swapping.

i'm merely speculating also of course. but IF there was a swap that would indicate a "prepared" spoon. if no swap then i would guess the spoon was bent manually then made to "appear" to bend in svens cupped hand to the host and camera. i'm no expert but must say, whatever the method, the effect was excellent. and shows geller up for what he really is.
good stuff sven

:-]

BV

[firecoins]

Does anyone know any good key bends?

[JonWhite]

Does anyone know any good key bends?

Randi does one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9w7jHYriFo&mode=related&search=

[firecoins]

I am looking for a gimmick that may replace the method Randi uses.

[firecoins]

I am looking for a gimmick that may replace the method Randi uses.
Gellerisms by Ben Harris. This book contains what I am looking for.

[mroek]

Thanks for the pointers, although I was kinda hoping to find some free information on the subject. However, I still might buy a DVD in the future.

[Garrette]

Thanks for the pointers, although I was kinda hoping to find some free information on the subject. However, I still might buy a DVD in the future.We're a rather persnickety bunch that way.

Actually, your first post asked this:

Is anyone here willing to share some insight on spoonbending, or pointers to information about it?We gave you the second. You can't really expect more until you've demonstrated you've gone to the effort to get info yourself. This usually entails some expense. What we offer does not eliminate the need for you to spend money to learn more, it does eliminate or greatly reduce your wasted expense in trying to find the right book, effect, or DVD.

Without the info we've given you, you could easily drop several hundred dollars on things that end up not giving you what you're looking for.

[JonWhite]

Thanks for the pointers, although I was kinda hoping to find some free information on the subject. However, I still might buy a DVD in the future.


Not quite sure how else to help - it's all about illusion and mis-direction at the moment of actual bending (no real secret there). There really is no better way of learning than studying the work of "masters" such as Banachek and then putting in a very great deal of time and practice to develop the skills.

There are gimmicked spoons/keys/etc out there that do (some) of the work for you, but as Garrette said they cost ridiculous amounts for what are literally only a "one trick pony". Far better to save a fortune by buying a DVD and learning so much more.

[mroek]

Please don't get me wrong here! I do appreciate the pointers, and I will look into whether I am going to buy a DVD or not. If I do, I will follow your advice and go for Banachek's.

[Garrette]

Please don't get me wrong here! I do appreciate the pointers, and I will look into whether I am going to buy a DVD or not. If I do, I will follow your advice and go for Banachek's.Excellent choice.

[JPK]

Good afternon mroek
Please don't get me wrong here! I do appreciate the pointers, and I will look into whether I am going to buy a DVD or not. If I do, I will follow your advice and go for Banachek's.
I agree with what many others have already pointed out. I also agree the Banacheck's stuff is about the best place to start.
Ther is also a magician named Morgan Strebler who does a real nice fork bend routine that uses soem of Banacheck's ideas.
JPK

[Azrael 5]

Fork Bending looks way cool,try look up guy Bavli also.

[firecoins]

I have been studying Banacheck's fork bends and find I need increased grip strength. Working on it as we speak.

Ben Harris' Gellarism's has been ordered from Denny's magic shop and shipped today. I will probably get that on Thursday. Ill see than if it has what I was looking for.

[DiskoVilante]

Just a word of caution. When you "prepare" spoons for spoon bending be careful...you could actually burn yourself.

[Garrette]

Just a word of caution. When you "prepare" spoons for spoon bending be careful...you could actually burn yourself.Then you're doing it the very hard (and unnecessary) way.

[firecoins]

I prepare to bend spoons by working on my misdirection skills, preparing gimmicks etc etc.

[DiskoVilante]

Then you're doing it the very hard (and unnecessary) way.

Haha, I'm very much a newbie at this. I just learned all of Banachek's methods though, so I'll start practicing those.

[Garrette]

Haha, I'm very much a newbie at this. I just learned all of Banachek's methods though, so I'll start practicing those.I'm impressed. You're a newbie and you learned all Banachek's methods? Wow.

And a rookie starting with fork bending. Very ambitious. Good luck with that.


[Don't mind me; I'm just in a persnickety mood for reasons not at all related to this thread. I hope you have success with it, but remember that the hardest and most important part of the method is not in how you make the bend.]

[Azrael 5]

Anyone seen Amazing Jonathan's spoon bend? Fantastic misdirection! :D

If not I'll dig it out and put it on youtube.

[Azrael 5]

Ok here we go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guLiepreJxw

[firecoins]

I have started doing AJ's bend. Its fantastic.

[Azrael 5]

I have started doing AJ's bend. Its fantastic.

Don't forget the hand signals!! ;)

[bonavada]

Ok here we go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guLiepreJxw

good stuff..................

looked at some more vids from this user. the one below uses some shocking misdirection too :-]

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wonder if he's still currently using that bike?

BV

[Azrael 5]

Ouch!

[Mangafranga]

Ice cream

[mollyblack]

Having seen Amazing Jonathan live, I have to say I absolutely adore his show. It's cute, it's funny, and even if he is terrible at giving interviews (i.e. says he will to a budding journalist and then never replies again), he's great at entertaining.

We went with my sister and her at the time date (my sister and those she dates tend to have very different sensibilities than my husband and me) and we ALL enjoyed it and got a kick out of his way of showing the humor inherent in well done magic and mucking it up making it all the more humorous.

I have to admit all of this is making me really regret not seeing Banachek. We went to Julia Sweeney and Jill Sobule and Penn & Teller (dark EVERY single time we've been to LV so we weren't missing them this time) instead. Now I'm going to be kicking myself incredibly. And buying his DVDs. :D