The Loose Change forum

[HyJinX]

I just got banned for questioning it * rolls eyes* bunch of fricken 5 year olds argueing over lollies.

My question was they are implying that Nasypany is lying or covering up something and that the operations went ahead (the terrorist attack) without them actually saying it, but rather implying. Intersting to note they see trying to catch Gravy out on what he may or may not say as more important then whats actually being said. You guys know what I mean.

God dylan, grow up, banned for that? Please...


I'm right there with ya. I asked one question...on my very first post there and was instantly banned. One of the lil pipsqueeks asked for a photo that showed the huge gapping hole in WTC7 (which obviously doesn't exist) and I asked for irrefutable proof that the hole didn't exist...given the accounts of the firefighters said it was indeed there.

POOF!...I was banned.

They're babies. Nothing more. A bunch of babies.

[eddyk]

More PROOF of bombs...someone heard a 'crack' just as the towers started collapsing...

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2420


Hell of a structural failure to make a sudden CRACK! and thump people's chests almost 1 mile away.


If I wasn't banned I'd say to him...

'Yes... One hell of a structual failure; It brought the skyscraper down, didn't you see?'




Anyhoo...

A crack...A bloody cracking noise...is now proof of a CD.

I hate them.

[Oliver]

I just got banned for questioning it * rolls eyes* bunch of fricken 5 year olds argueing over lollies.

My question was they are implying that Nasypany is lying or covering up something and that the operations went ahead (the terrorist attack) without them actually saying it, but rather implying. Intersting to note they see trying to catch Gravy out on what he may or may not say as more important then whats actually being said. You guys know what I mean.

God dylan, grow up, banned for that? Please...

This is what i call a very well earned KIA Badge,
Hellaeon - and the reason why we have these Badges.

Wear it proudly: :)

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107458848e810d25.gif

[HyJinX]

This is what i call a very well earned KIA Badge,
Hellaeon - and the reason why we have these Badges.

Wear it proudly: :)

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107458848e810d25.gif


I never got my badge. Can I have one......please?:(

[LashL]

More PROOF of bombs...someone heard a 'crack' just as the towers started collapsing...

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...showtopic=2420


Originally Posted by Shillan Avery
Hell of a structural failure to make a sudden CRACK! and thump people's chests almost 1 mile away.

If I wasn't banned I'd say to him...

'Yes... One hell of a structual failure; It brought the skyscraper down, didn't you see?'




Anyhoo...

A crack...A bloody cracking noise...is now proof of a CD.

I hate them.

Quite ridiculous, isn't it?

I watched the video, and Do-Over is still no better at accurately portraying what people actually say in what he writes in his posts (or his videos).

They say they were first at that location when they got off the subway and saw the first tower on fire;
then they "had stuff to do and we did it";
then "we were just walking back" (in the direction of the WTC, not away from it) and heard the second plane hit and saw the fire ball;
later they heard the second plane hit and saw the fireball,
they continue walking back "just watching it";
then they hear "like a crack";
the male says "then the building just slid off diagonally" and the female corrects him, saying "no" and the male says "no, but you could hear it"
the male says "I thought I could feel it in my chest but I don't know if that was just.." interrupted by the female saying, "just panic" - "then the male continuing, "...my heart near popping or what"

In any event, it is obvious that the couple was not sure where they were at the time of the "crack" and yet Do-Over proclaims their location as though he is certain of it.

He then says that the distance from the location that he decides they were at is .64 miles from the tower.

And in his usual sensationalist fashion, he inserts exclamation points into the text in order to give it the meaning that he wants it to have rather tha nthe meaning it actually has. If you watch the video, it is obvious that there were no exclamatatory statements where he inserts the gratuitous punctuation.

And in his usual sloppy fashion, non-scientific fashion, he concludes that .64 miles is "almost a mile".

(Incidentally, it is not at all clear where they were exactly at the time, as the female estimates it as "we weren't that close but we were pretty close" and the male estimates it as "about 20 blocks away.")

My point is that Do-Over must really believe that twoofers will just take his word for whatever distortions he puts on things, including divining the couple's location and stating it as a fact, quoting them selectively and inserting gratuitous punctuation to serve his own purposes, posting it as though it's some kind of revelation, without even bothering to get their words right.

And he's probably right.

[Oliver]

I never got my badge. Can I have one......please?:(

Were you banned in an honorable manner at LC? :confused:

[HyJinX]

I was.

One question...first post ever...asked for irrefutable evidence. Banned for life.

Is that not worthy and honorable?

[Oliver]

I was.

One question...first post ever...asked for irrefutable evidence. Banned for life.

Is that not worthy and honorable?

This is indeed very honorable. I´m sorry that the
"First Post Banned"-Badges aren´t ready yet - so
i give you the "crown of honor"-Badge. :)

Wear it proudly to every formal ceremony:

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[hellaeon]

hahaha that badge is pretty funny....

It *may* have been roxdog, since I caught him out on insinuating gravy was a freemason, but hey even if it was, they twist and distort truths so I will too

[HyJinX]

This is indeed very honorable. I´m sorry that the
"First Post Banned"-Badges aren´t ready yet - so
i give you the "crown of honor"-Badge. :)

Wear it proudly to every formal ceremony:

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107459f6aa36de5a.gif


I bow in complete humility. I will sport it with honor.

[uk_dave]

The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin:

This thread tipifies completly the tactic of the "de-bunker", playing word games and trying to muddy the waters.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2335&st=210&#last

Poor reggie.

The 'truthers' love to play word games with silverstein's "...pull it..." comment, or rumsfeld's "missile" gaff, and of course the water couldn't get more muddier than a movement which believes that maybe the planes which are claimed to have hit the pentagon and the wtc towers might not be the planes the govt claim they were but the war games which may (or may not) have been planned/running on 9/11 severely impacted on the US air defence ability to intercept the planes which had been hijacked by terrorists and flown...no wait...erm...ummmm ok ok wtc7 was brought down by controlled demolition but the FDNY weren't in on it, though they did agree to pull it, but were only following orders and would be saying so right now if they weren't scared...of something...maybe losing their jobs? Yeah that's it...they cover up the murder of people to keep their....ok ok maybe not...erm....shanksville!! Lightpoles!!! JEWS!!!

'nuff said.

[Geedubya]

Now this poor soul was also banned after a single post, a response to Dylan refusing to clarify his belief about whether flt. 77 hit the Pentagon, or not:

Fatmaninasuit:

That's an interesting way to say, "Yes, I believe that flight 77 was hijacked by Islamist extremists and crashed into the Pentagon but if I actually say it fully a third of my movie is gone."

Starting to close in on you, isn't it, Dylan? Is it tough, looking around for a way to run away from this monster you created only to find out that you are its main victim? Does the guilt gnaw, soliciting support from the relatives of those you laughed at? How about the doubt, that maybe those film schools were on to something?

(top post on page 8 of the thread linked above about NORAD planning but not actually running drills)

Well, I guess he was kinda asking for it, but he did manage to get his licks in and apparently he got a direct hit on a nerve. I only wish there was some way to get word to him about this support group.

There's healing here. :)

[The Doc]

I'm not 100% sure Dylan banned me. But it was after a post criticizing his tactics and method of argument. Along with irrefutable evidence he was wrong about Universal's donations to the families of Flight 93 :) So I'm pretty sure it was him, also considering he was online at the time. I've got my badge "Banned From LC" though and I'm pretty darn happy about it :D

I think he has problems with the concept that "were going to be run" is different from "were run".

I think he also has problems with the concept that "I am notwrong" is different from "I am wrong" :)

[uk_dave]

From a moron called quest:

And again, war games or no war games; who cares?

People died. Either you have proof that the defence of those people was deliberately obstructed or shut the **** up.

The Pentagon? I don't care if a train hit it.

People died. You should *********** care you piece of ****

The twin towers and WTC7 were controlled demolitioned which means inside job. Case closed.

Prove it, dickhead.

Get a real job, Gravy.

Get a real job and a life, quest!

[uk_dave]

well, at least I've discovered that 'dickhead' gets through the profanity filter.

It's good to know.

Now, where's that LIAR 28th Kingdom............

[JimBenArm]

well, at least I've discovered that 'dickhead' gets through the profanity filter.

It's good to know.

Now, where's that LIAR 28th Kingdom............

Didn't you hear? I fired him. Liar tried to quit, but I beat him to it.

[GlennB]

I give it 30 days before Avery bans himself after misunderstanding one of his own posts.

[Oliver]

"MyNameIs" is pretty funny since master comedian Pdoherty
left the sinking ship. Is he the News-Anchorman over there?

Thread: 7k Dead Birds In Australia
Subtitle: (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2456)blah...blah chemtrails....dead birds bla (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2456)

Thread: Jaywalk Or Be Beaten, Shot, Tazed Etc....
Subtitle: man beat ....blah blah blah..... (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2448)

[Calcas]

Chcek out this thread about the white plane over DC.

The funny stuff is Dylan and Merc (that one dood) arguing while Merc is begging to be "brought back into the fold." LOL.

http://www.adz-site.net/v1/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL3oxMC5pbnZpc2lvbmZyZWUuY29tL0 xvb3NlX0NoYW5nZV9Gb3J1bS9pbmRleC5waHA%2Fc2hvd3RvcG ljPTI0MTQ%3D

[TheGrunion]

Chcek out this thread about the white plane over DC.

The funny stuff is Dylan and Merc (that one dood) arguing while Merc is begging to be "brought back into the fold." LOL.

http://www.adz-site.net/v1/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL3oxMC5pbnZpc2lvbmZyZWUuY29tL0 xvb3NlX0NoYW5nZV9Gb3J1bS9pbmRleC5waHA%2Fc2hvd3RvcG ljPTI0MTQ%3D

I've been following it. Great stuff. I love how Merc manages to debate Dylan, and ask for permission to use Dylan's footage at the same time.

I seem to recall Russell making the claim that Merc created waves during the D.C. trip because he felt he should be compensated for his efforts.

If this is true than I guess there's no better time to extend the olive branch than shortly after your adversary claims to have a budget of $20 Million.


On a related note, here's Merc's public apology thread:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2454

This thread is meant to be a public apology to Dylan, and also the past members of the old forum, for any friction I may have contributed to on his original forum. These were issues that shoud have been handled privately between Russell and myself, and eventually with Lyte.

Sometimes we get caught up in negative feelings and can't find our way past them, and back to the positive ones.

So for what it's worth, I apologize Dylan and hope we can resolve our differences and move forward, unified in a common goal of obtaining justice for the 9/11 victims.

[Calcas]

I've been following it. Great stuff. I love how Merc manages to debate Dylan, and ask for permission to use Dylan's footage at the same time.

I seem to recall Russell making the claim that Merc created waves during the D.C. trip because he felt he should be compensated for his efforts.

If this is true than I guess there's no better time to extend the olive branch than shortly after your adversary claims to have a budget of $20 Million.


On a related note, here's Merc's public apology thread:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2454

More like public ass kissing thread.

Notice Dylan hasn't (and won't) respond...

[TheGrunion]

Rumor has it that Merc uses thermite to burn his bridges. ;)

[Oliver]

Chcek out this thread about the white plane over DC.

The funny stuff is Dylan and Merc (that one dood) arguing while Merc is begging to be "brought back into the fold." LOL.

http://www.adz-site.net/v1/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL3oxMC5pbnZpc2lvbmZyZWUuY29tL0 xvb3NlX0NoYW5nZV9Gb3J1bS9pbmRleC5waHA%2Fc2hvd3RvcG ljPTI0MTQ%3D


Delicious ... like a detective story ... a funny one. :D

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Thank you for the link. :)

[maccy]

I've also been banned.

You can look at my last few posts here:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2335&st=60

And try and work out what I did that was so terrible...

[Oliver]

I've also been banned.

You can look at my last few posts here:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2335&st=60

And try and work out what I did that was so terrible...

You have to consider that posting at JREF could lead to
a ban at Loose Change, too. :D Maybe it was this one?

I think Bermas does. Avery is trying to work out how to turn all of this into a viable film career. I expect him to ditch as much of the crazy stuff as he can.

Anyway: After reviewing your case it looks like your Badge
is more than well earned.

Congratulations and always wear it proudly, Maccy. :)

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[HyJinX]

Oliver...you've handed out about 10 of these in just a few days.

I think Mr. Hollywood is starting to lose it. :Banane24:

[Coritani]

Man, more of this "you're playing word games" nonsense, coming from the same crowd who thought Silverstein and Rumsfield accidently told everyone that it was, in fact, an inside job.

What a pathetic twist on wording. Says alot about where you guys are coming from.

How? Here is the quote, from Dylan's sig:

Mark Roberts: NEADS ran no war games on 9/11. No hijacking drills whatsoever were run on 9/11.

(emphasis mine)

How is that twisting his wording? The only one doing the twisting is you.

Post here (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2335&view=findpost&p=11089384)

It'll be interesting to see their response.

[Oliver]

Oliver...you've handed out about 10 of these in just a few days.
I think Mr. Hollywood is starting to lose it. :Banane24:

I´m pretty amazed. What happend - why is he so pissed? :confused:

[Horatius]

I´m pretty amazed. What happend - why is he so pissed? :confused:

It's because you guys keep breaking the first rule of CT debate: Please don't point out our blindingly obvious errors, okay?

That's a banable offense. Or a banal offense. One of those two, I'm sure.

[HyJinX]

It's because you guys keep breaking the first rule of CT debate: Please don't point out our blindingly obvious errors, okay?

That's a banable offense. Or a banal offense. One of those two, I'm sure.

I think you mean Bananable :Banane21::Banane48::Banane45::Banane44::Banane01: :Banane11:

[Oliver]

It's because you guys keep breaking the first rule of CT debate: Please don't point out our blindingly obvious errors, okay? *snip*

But we always broke the "don´t ask questions" rule.

I guess it´s because Gravy´s discussion over there.
But i still don´t know why Dylan played the Zombie
at the Hardfire debate. Looks like some pretty big
Headaches going on over there.

http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/merv/thinking.gif

[hellaeon]

I give it 30 days before Avery bans himself after misunderstanding one of his own posts.

hahahahahaha yeah I think so.

For a mob that winges about police states and tyranny, wow they dish it out so willingly. Kind of like net-nazis.

[Gravy]

Welcome to the forums, Gee.

Now this poor soul was also banned after a single post, a response to Dylan refusing to clarify his belief about whether flt. 77 hit the Pentagon, or not:

Fatmaninasuit:

That's an interesting way to say, "Yes, I believe that flight 77 was hijacked by Islamist extremists and crashed into the Pentagon but if I actually say it fully a third of my movie is gone."

Starting to close in on you, isn't it, Dylan? Is it tough, looking around for a way to run away from this monster you created only to find out that you are its main victim? Does the guilt gnaw, soliciting support from the relatives of those you laughed at? How about the doubt, that maybe those film schools were on to something? That got you banned? They're getting strict over there. :D

I give it 30 days before Avery bans himself after misunderstanding one of his own posts.Stop it. I'm cramping up.

[aggle-rithm]

Chcek out this thread about the white plane over DC.

The funny stuff is Dylan and Merc (that one dood) arguing while Merc is begging to be "brought back into the fold." LOL.

http://www.adz-site.net/v1/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL3oxMC5pbnZpc2lvbmZyZWUuY29tL0 xvb3NlX0NoYW5nZV9Gb3J1bS9pbmRleC5waHA%2Fc2hvd3RvcG ljPTI0MTQ%3D

I especially liked the part where Dylan accused Merc of acting like he was back in high school.

"Dude, that was three years ago! Get with the times, man!"

[aggle-rithm]

Welcome to the forums, Gee.

That got you banned? They're getting strict over there. :D



Actually, it got Fatmaninasuit banned, but the banning was so ferocious that there were peripheral bannings all across the land...

[Gravy]

Actually, it got Fatmaninasuit banned, but the banning was so ferocious that there were peripheral bannings all across the land...Ah, I thought "This poor soul" = "me."

[Gravy]

Oooh, I know who fatmaninasuit is now.

[Horatius]

I think you mean Bananable :Banane21::Banane48::Banane45::Banane44::Banane01: :Banane11:

Ah, yes, that's the word I was looking for! :)

[Geedubya]

Oooh, I know who fatmaninasuit is now.

No, fatman isn't me, or maybe you're realizing it's someone else you know??

I was just pointing out another pour soul who also got banned after posting only once, like HyJinX, I think it was.

I actually managed to survive for 86 posts, and was surprised it lasted that long. I crossed paths with the "leader of the pack" a couple times, the most memorable being when I asked him why he neglected to even make mention of a huge investigation (NIST) that addressed in depth the very subject of a large part of his movie. He first tried to claim he didn't have time, but after I pointed out other additions he did have time for, his response was basically: "It's my movie and I'll do what I want". "I don't owe you a thing!"

This was in a thread started by "NewtonFig", I think the only one he started. (can't post links yet)

Anyways, thanks for the welcome, and thanks for all you've done to help debunk these guys. Their reactions to you are evidence that you are indeed effective!

[uk_dave]

Posted by agent Sleepy2k16:

I Didnt much into this, Because usally when I do, They just ignore me anyways..

This is what I said:

There is an error on your site under Sept 2001:
http://www.raptureready.com/time/rap31e.html

Flights 11, 175 and 93 were under remote control. Flight 93 was shot down.

A Missle or small plane hit the pentagon.

Please correct this, as The Lord wants us to be honest/ write back if any questions,.

Steve


He replied:

Steve,

Error in your brain.


Hey at least He replied,,, So then I said....


Im serious. As christians It is best to be honest about this.

Thermite was used to cut the main pillars of the world trade center. It is being used as a pretext to form a one world powerful evil. (World Govt) You cant do this unless u weaken the Super-Power of the world, Threy did by Elimiating the U.S. Conistion and Bill of rights. The media is covering this up Because they are controlled by a few people(5 Cooperations) I believe.

I understand If you dont want to say it was an inside job on your website, But as soon as you cross the line saying...Osama Bin Laden did it, That is not what Jesus would do, And as christians we need to be honest towards men.

Thanks for responding, Please repond again, I can give you evidence If you like.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2492

[Brainache]

I used to think there was a limit to the amount of stupidity that could be exhibited by one human being, now I realise I was wrong. There is no limit.

I used to think that eventually a point would be reached when no intelligence was present and that would be like absolute zero.

I now think that stupidity obeys some kind of fractal pattern in that it can be infinite within finite boundaries.

/pretend sciencey type talk.

[8den]

I used to think there was a limit to the amount of stupidity that could be exhibited by one human being, now I realise I was wrong. There is no limit.

I used to think that eventually a point would be reached when no intelligence was present and that would be like absolute zero.

I now think that stupidity obeys some kind of fractal pattern in that it can be infinite within finite boundaries.

/pretend sciencey type talk.


Look at it this way the sheer denisty of the stupidity on the LC forum is eventually going to reach critical mass and fold in itself, sucking some if not all of the stupid in the universe in onto of itself.

Maybe we'll lose professional wrestling, boy racers, and people who start sentences with "now I'm no racist, but..."

[uk_dave]

Igor dreams:

(Revolutionary91 @ Jan 4 2007, 05:15 AM)
(Arrowhead @ Jan 4 2007, 02:38 AM)
Will LCFC be out by the end of March Dylan? And will it actually be in theaters, advertized in local papers, right across the US and Canada? Is it in the realm of possible to make that dream come true? Will there be a subseqent release in video stores as well? If so, our numbers, by the end of 2007 will by far exceed 50%, and we'll hear some loud shouting for a new independant investigation, which of course we won't get, but the shouts will be loud and clear, and will put the pressure on. I wonder if the historical record on 9/11 will be set straight some day..

Man that would be great. Imagine, wouldn't it be cool for our children to learn about this in school and you can e able to say "Yep, I was one of them...I wish I could do it all over again" We can be in the history books!

So march 2007? Awesome, keep us updated! :D

I can just imagine it. I can tell me grandkids and my children probably if they haven't been through it yet of how I went through it all, how we stood against the propaganda, etc...

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2042

awwwww it'll be just like the 60's....

[The Doc]

The history books are not going to show 9/11 Conspiracy Theories in a good light. I hope they do get into them :)

[Indolent Wretch]

Baldrick: I've heard what these Germans will do, Sir. They'll have their wicked way with anything of woman-born.

Edmund: Well, in that case, Baldrick, you're quite safe. However, the Teutonic reputation for brutality is well-founded: their operas last three or four days; and they have no word for 'fluffy'.


I love that quote, so much so that one day I check an EngGer dictionary to see. They do however apparently have a word for fluffy.

I believe it is 'flaumig' or some such.

[johnny karate]

So is this where I come when the mean kids at the Loose Change Forum won’t let me play in their sandbox anymore?

After a fairly solid run, all the while maintaining strict observance of the forum rules, the Ban Hammer was finally brought down on me. No reason or justification was given of course. I’m actually surprised I lasted as long as I did.

In celebration of my bannage, I thought I would share with you guys my Top Three Favorite Moments While Arguing with a Mouth-Frothingly Insane CTer:

Coming in at #3 is perhaps my most avid adversary, miragememories. This guy wrote these long, angry responses to my posts that while passionate and containing almost no spelling errors, never had a whole lot to do with the topic at hand.

After several times pointing out to him that no structural engineers in the world support the CT, he claimed it was due to the “influence” of the U.S. government. When I asked him how that accounts for structural engineers in enemy nations such as North Korea, he came back with this gem:

Regarding your North Korean structural engineer, I'm not aware that civilians in North Korea, or North Korea for that matter, can connect to the internet?

Besides submitting contrary reports from structural engineers, don't you suppose that enemy nations, if they had internet access would use the opportunity for propaganda attacks on every subject imaginable??

I haven't noticed any North Korean presence on the internet.

In the #2 spot is our old friend Roxdog. I think many of you already appreciate the fact that Roxdog lives in a magical land far, far way where the logic and reason of our world cease to exist, so I think the following exchange speaks for itself (note the devastating “lol” finishing move):

How is it that you aren't smart enough to address any of the info but somehow are smart enough to say who is "qualified" and who is not?
How is it that you aren't smart enough to diagnose a serious medical condition but are somehow smart enough to know that you should go to a doctor to have that done?
Um, your metaphor proves our point not yours. :lol:

And finally our Grand Prize Winner: water_bender. I’m not sure what context I can possibly place this comment in that would convince you to not be afraid for your family’s safety with this wingnut running around loose in the world:

do you hate black people karate? you do don’t you, i should have guessed as much.

[MarkyX]

So is this where I come when the mean kids at the Loose Change Forum won’t let me play in their sandbox anymore?


Yep. Welcome aboard.

[Arus808]

welcome Johnny , to JREF. Yes. it seems that LC attracts a certain type of person, and they provide for comedy gold. Sadly, these are the same people who also interact in daily life. can you imagine how they spend their days?

[Horatius]

And finally our Grand Prize Winner: water_bender. I’m not sure what context I can possibly place this comment in that would convince you to not be afraid for your family’s safety with this wingnut running around loose in the world:

Welcome to the board. You'll find it more civilized here, I think.

As for the last comment, where you worry about our fear for our families' safety, I think that, while most of us realize that the vast majority of twoofers are pretty whacked in the head, we also know that they are notoriously lazy, and hence not much of a threat in the real world.

And even if they did get angry enough to try something, they'd all get caught trying to sneak thousands of tons of C4 into working office buildings, just to prove it can be done :)

[JimBenArm]

Welcome to the board. You'll find it more civilized here, I think.

As for the last comment, where you worry about our fear for our families' safety, I think that, while most of us realize that the vast majority of twoofers are pretty whacked in the head, we also know that they are notoriously lazy, and hence not much of a threat in the real world.

And even if they did get angry enough to try something, they'd all get caught trying to sneak thousands of tons of C4 into working office buildings, just to prove it can be done :)

And most of them have a curfew, since they have school the next day. Their moms usually won't let them go too far by themselves, either.

[LashL]

Welcome, johnny.

I wondered how long it would be before the loose change kiddies kicked you out of their sandbox, as I quite enjoyed reading your posts and arguments with twoofers there, and figured it was only a matter of time :D

[T.A.M.]

Welcome JK, to the Forum.

I am not really sure if Dylan realizes that through sensoring all questions or opinions that are at all opposing to the mantra, he is infact, also alienating a good proportion of people who might actually listen to him and his nonsense?

Anywho, his loss, societies gain.

TAM:)

[Oliver]

Welcome aboard, JK. :)

I came here the same way: Being honest - Gone.

What exactly did you do to get banned?

[Kiwiwriter]

Johnny, welcome to the JREF boards!

Sounds like you've earned your medals and ribbons over at Loose Change. We're a lot more sane.

[HeyLeroy]

Hey, Johnny, welcome aboard. I enjoyed your posts over there.

[Coritani]

Hey Johnny. 'Twas only a matter of time. :(

[johnny karate]

Thanks for the warm welcome, everybody.

What exactly did you do to get banned?I haven't a clue. I was always very careful to obey the rules: I never engaged in anything approaching personal attacks, and even ignored those directed at me (and there were a lot). and I always stayed on topic. I never "derailed" or "trolled' . My last round of posts were just business as usual.

If I had to guess, I think it was just because more and more people began complaining about me. At the end there, I was fending off six and seven CTers per thread. I felt like a Spartan in the Battle of Thermopylae, battling through wave after wave of endless onslaught. Only instead of Persians, it was retardation.

[aggle-rithm]

The history books are not going to show 9/11 Conspiracy Theories in a good light. I hope they do get into them :)

It might be a better subject for abnormal psychology texts.

[Bell]

I love that quote, so much so that one day I check an EngGer dictionary to see. They do however apparently have a word for fluffy.

I believe it is 'flaumig' or some such.

Oliver should clear this one up. OLLIE?!

[GlennB]

Thanks for the warm welcome, everybody.

I haven't a clue. I was always very careful to obey the rules: I never engaged in anything approaching personal attacks, and even ignored those directed at me (and there were a lot). and I always stayed on topic. I never "derailed" or "trolled' . My last round of posts were just business as usual.

If I had to guess, I think it was just because more and more people began complaining about me. At the end there, I was fending off six and seven CTers per thread. I felt like a Spartan in the Battle of Thermopylae, battling through wave after wave of endless onslaught. Only instead of Persians, it was retardation.

Johnny ! Welcome !

You were doing sound and stalwart work over there, against almost insurmountable stupidositudiness. For this, banning is inevitable. I feel a badge of honour coming your way :)

[GlennB]

Damn. I just shot my mouth off at mirage. Couldn't resist.
Ban 3 looming.

[jhunter1163]

Welcome to the forum, Johnny. I think you'll find this place a little more to your liking. You'll also note that the more rabid Twoofers avoid it like vampires avoid the dawn.

[Oliver]

Oliver should clear this one up. OLLIE?!

Huh? Well, let´s see ... Fluffy:

flockig, flaumig, flauschig, weich, sanft, zart

[Horatius]

Huh? Well, let´s see ... Fluffy:

flockig, flaumig, flauschig, weich, sanft, zart

Germans have six words for fluffy?!?

No wonder they kept trying to take over the world. They were overcompensating!




:)


No offence, I hope, Oliver!

[Oliver]

*snip* I haven't a clue. I was always very careful to obey the rules: I never engaged in anything approaching personal attacks, and even ignored those directed at me (and there were a lot). and I always stayed on topic. I never "derailed" or "trolled' . My last round of posts were just business as usual. *snip*

This sounds like a very well earned Badge. Never
mind because you´re now a Member of the holy
inner circle of the Loose Change Veterans.


_____________________________________________


Congratulations!

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107459f6aa36de5a.gif

Brothers and Sisters, we are once again gathered here
to bestow upon a fellow forumite, our highest distinction,
the blue badge of Honor and Courage!

A fellow skeptic, Johnny Karate, has fought the good fight, and
yet has been banned by the quote-miners, google-searchers, and
YouTube-vigilantes. I say, “Yes” unto him!

Having placed his very sanity at risk,… venturing into
the caves of ig-no-rance and ob-fu-sca-tion… to the land, I
say to you, where fertilizer hangs from the trees like Spanish
moss... to that cistern of non-sequiturs... the land where no math
is known…. Yes! I am speaking of that vile sanctum of brain-
dead barely post pubescent white boys..... Loose Change.

Yet, our valiant Johnny Karate has returned, perhaps
minus a few brain cells, but nevertheless back to the
bosom of logic and rational thinking.

For this, we bestow upon you the highest honor at
JREF/CT - The Blue Badge of Honor and Courage.

Wear it proudly, my son.


_____________________________________________

[LashL]

This sounds like a very well earned Badge. Never
mind because you´re now a Member of the holy
inner circle of the Loose Change Veterans.


_____________________________________________


Congratulations!

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107459f6aa36de5a.gif

Brothers and Sisters, we are once again gathered here
to bestow upon a fellow forumite, our highest distinction,
the blue badge of Honor and Courage!

A fellow skeptic, Johnny Karate, has fought the good fight, and
yet has been banned by the quote-miners, google-searchers, and
YouTube-vigilantes. I say, “Yes” unto him!

Having placed his very sanity at risk,… venturing into
the caves of ig-no-rance and ob-fu-sca-tion… to the land, I
say to you, where fertilizer hangs from the trees like Spanish
moss... to that cistern of non-sequitirs... the land where no math
is known…. Yes! I am speaking of that vile sanctum of brain-
dead barely post pubescent white boys..... Loose Change.

Yet, our valiant Johnny Karate has returned, perhaps
minus a few brain cells, but nevertheless back to the
bosom of logic and rational thinking.

For this, we bestow upon you the highest honor at
JREF/CT - The Blue Badge of Honor and Courage.

Wear it proudly, my son.


_____________________________________________




:D Love the new accompanying bestowal speech, Oliver!

[Oliver]

:D Love the new accompanying bestowal speech, Oliver!

You have to thank Foolmewunz and all the other great
contributors to the ceremonial speech. I will substitute/
variegate the different speeches from ceremony to
ceremony to honor all the fantastic contributions. :)

[LashL]

You have to thank Foolmewunz and all the other great
contributors to the ceremonial speech. I will substitute/
variegate the different speeches from ceremony to
ceremony to honor all the fantastic contributions. :)

Okay.

Thank you, Foolmewunz and all the other great contributors to the ceremonial speech :)

At the time I wrote my prior post, I hadn't seen the other thread, but yes, excellent contributions indeed!

[eddyk]

I'm sure it's been said before...but I really do hope LC:FC gets into the cinemas.

Because they would have their asses handed to them by all the media.

I can see it now, Prime time specials 'The Errors of LC'



Also they shouldn't release it as 'Final Cut'.

[T.A.M.]

LTW want to be famous...my question is what type of famous?

1. "Al Pacino" Famous
2. "William Hung" Famous

Personally, I think, if LC:FC does get released in theatres, the media will turn LTW into "William Hung" famous. I myself would take quiet anonymity, before I would be famous for foolishness.

TAM

[Oliver]

LTW want to be famous...my question is what type of famous?

1. "Al Pacino" Famous
2. "William Hung" Famous

Personally, I think, if LC:FC does get released in theatres, the media will turn LTW into "William Hung" famous. I myself would take quiet anonymity, before I would be famous for foolishness.

TAM

Hey, at least they get pity if they really thought
the NWO inside job OBL patsy stuff is true.

[WildCat]

Also they shouldn't release it as 'Final Cut'.
No, it should be "Loose Change: Ultimate Stupidity", or something like that.

[The Silver Shadow]

Hey everyone! I see this is where the cool kids in the LC forum hang out once they get past "Gone"! I was debating with Killtown on New Years Day and I got banned a few hours later! All I have to say, these guys are terrible when it comes to debating and science!

[Oliver]

Hey everyone! I see this is where the cool kids in the LC forum hang out once they get past "Gone"! I was debating with Killtown on New Years Day and I got banned a few hours later! All I have to say, these guys are terrible when it comes to debating and science!

That´s all we need to know ... and welcome Aboard! :)


_____________________________________________


Congratulations, The Silver Shadow!

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107459f6aa36de5a.gif

Brothers and Sisters, we are once again gathered here
to bestow upon a fellow forumite, our highest distinction,
the blue badge of Honor and Courage!

A fellow skeptic, The Silver Shadow, has fought the good fight, and
yet has been banned by the quote-miners, google-searchers, and
YouTube-vigilantes. I say, “Yes” unto him!

Having placed his very sanity at risk,… venturing into
the caves of ig-no-rance and ob-fu-sca-tion… to the land, I
say to you, where fertilizer hangs from the trees like Spanish
moss... to that cistern of non-sequiturs... the land where no math
is known…. Yes! I am speaking of that vile sanctum of brain-
dead barely post pubescent white boys..... Loose Change.

Yet, our valiant The Silver Shadow has returned, perhaps
minus a few brain cells, but nevertheless back to the
bosom of logic and rational thinking.

For this, we bestow upon you the highest honor at
JREF/CT - The Blue Badge of Honor and Courage.

Wear it proudly, my son.


_____________________________________________

[The Silver Shadow]

Thanks! I was banned after telling Killtown over and over that he's creating the wrong comparison when comparing Pan Am 103 vs. Flight 93. He never seemed to have gotten the message and said I was ignorant...

[Oliver]

Thanks! I was banned after telling Killtown over and over that he's creating the wrong comparison when comparing Pan Am 103 vs. Flight 93. He never seemed to have gotten the message and said I was ignorant...

Killtown is straightway stupid and paranoid. If you wan´t to survive
over there, you really have to avoid everything that can fly or crash.
Like Louder Than Words and their movie career - for example. :p

[The Silver Shadow]

yep, it was my mistake to believe that they could relate to knowledge. I apologize to myself and to my friends who said that it would never happen...

[Oliver]

yep, it was my mistake to believe that they could relate to knowledge. I apologize to myself and to my friends who said that it would never happen...

I came to JREF the same way. Enjoying the summer, surfed a
littlebit, saw a crazy conspiracy movie, went to the LC-Forum,
asked some questions, got banned and finally came to this funny
place...

[The Silver Shadow]

Thanks for the medal though, it looks amazing on my tin-foil hat :D

[uk_dave]

Well I dunno what happened to the much anticipated invasion of 'truthers' we were expecting, but we certainly seem to have had an influx of new skeptics in these last couple of weeks.

Welcome all.

[Oliver]

Well I dunno what happened to the much anticipated invasion of 'truthers' we were expecting, but we certainly seem to have had an influx of new skeptics in these last couple of weeks.

Welcome all.

False Flag! :eek: :covereyes

[twinstead]

I came to JREF the same way. Enjoying the summer, surfed a
littlebit, saw a crazy conspiracy movie, went to the LC-Forum,
asked some questions, got banned and finally came to this funny
place...

It's amazing how addicting JREF can be too, it's almost like a drug, nicht wahr?

[eddyk]

Troofers are just too serious....they accuse us of sitting her all day debunking them.

When they probably never leave the house for fear of being watched my the government.


My point is, people on here are just too funny lol, unlike those on LC who have no wit at all.

[Horatius]

It's amazing how addicting JREF can be too, it's almost like a drug, nicht wahr?

That's the high from talking to people who either actually know what they're talking about, or are willing to admit they don't know something, and are honestly trying to learn something. I'd be very surprised if any of the skeptics here couldn't relate at least one "I didn't know that!" moment from our discussions here. I know I've learned a lot.

[twinstead]

I'd be very surprised if any of the skeptics here couldn't relate at least one "I didn't know that!" moment from our discussions here

Franky, if I had a penny for every time that's happened to me, I could retire and post on JREF full time ;)

[Oliver]

It's amazing how addicting JREF can be too, it's almost like a drug, nicht wahr?

Oh, absolutely. It´s too funny to quit here. Maybe
a little bit boring from time to time - but you can
still blame Lisa or tweak Darats nose in the meantime. :p

[Horatius]

Troofers are just too serious....they accuse us of sitting her all day debunking them.

When they probably never leave the house for fear of being watched my the government.


My point is, people on here are just too funny lol, unlike those on LC who have no wit at all.

And they have a really hard time figuring out things that should be fairly obvious.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1499

At one point, one of them actually wonders why the new "Freedom Tower" is supposed to be 1776 feet tall. Heck, I'm Canadian, and I got that reference right away.

I guess people this clueless are too used to not getting the joke, so anytime someone makes a joke, they see it as a personal attack, or something.

[Firestone]

Now they have banned the incredibly funny Charles Caltrop (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2541&view=findpost&p=11146330) !

Maybe he will now reveal his identity? :)

[jhunter1163]

I've seen people on here with 30,000 posts. That's not a typo: thirty THOUSAND posts. But as enjoyable as this place is, if I'd found it five years ago I might well be in the five figures myself. And I'm sure I'd be a lot smarter, too...

[T.A.M.]

Welcome Silver Shadow to the JREF Forum on Conspiracy Theories.

Like I said earlier, Dylan's "Ban at will" policy is going to backfire on him. Already, look at the influx of people who were just asking questions, who have now come over to the dar-- I mean who have now seen the light.

TAM:)

[LashL]

Now they have banned the incredibly funny Charles Caltrop (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2541&view=findpost&p=11146330) !

Maybe he will now reveal his identity? :)

Looks like his identity is, temporarily, Bastien-Thiery

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2541&st=0&#entry11146330

A message to mister Killtown or who ever was the "truthseeker" that banned mr. Charles Caltrop.

You little wanker. you think you can keep me out. Think again. How do you justify your search for truth if you ban every one that disagrees. Yes I disagree 9/11 was not an inside job but since opinions like that are not tolerated on this forum for truth, I chose to mock you instead. I guess I went too far because even you retards eventually saw through my posts.

I hope yu realize that... no you wont.


[rule8] you


And how do you justify all the deleting of post that don't fit your views? Like the most recent ones from Charles Caltrop.

So go ahead delete all this. Thats what the truth movement is about. You little nazis.

:duel

[LashL]

Welcome, Silver Shadow.

I enjoyed your posts over at the Loose With The Truth forums, and look forward to your input and participation here. :welcome4

[Arus808]

why oh why did i go there to look at what they are talking about:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1797


they are comparing the bombing of nagasaki/hiroshima to 911...... o...m....f....g...

[The Silver Shadow]

ah yes, that! They couldn't answer my questions, and kept throwing questions at me to answer...

PS: Thanks for the welcomes! I'm feeling loved!

[T.A.M.]

Common tactic used by the CTers. Closely associated with this tactic is another, the "change subjects" move. This, as I am sure you have seen, occurs when you actually ask for evidence that cant be provided, or when you thwart evidence they have just given you.

TAM:)

[The Silver Shadow]

Very true, Dylan's no better at it either; only difference, he just answers the questions that most pertain to him...

[LashL]

Apparently, someone is selling LC in Australia and some of the twoofers are complaining about copyright infringement.

Oh, the irony (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2068)

:id:

[T.A.M.]

Kind of like taking a puzzle your friend owns, putting it together yourself, and then selling it as your own. Then when someone, who bought your "put together" puzzle, takes it and sells it to someone else, you cry "copyright infringement"...freakin stupid.

TAM

[eddyk]

'Advice for skeptics, don't insult or troll and you'll be alright.'


He forgot to mention... questioning his beliefs constitutes as trolling.

[uk_dave]

I want to be a LC forum admin.

That would be, like, so cool, coz, like, you can say all kinds of weird **** and the little people, like, just lap it up.

You don't even have to......you know... like... i mean...make...ummm...sense and stuff.

Quest (my, like, hero) pontificates:

Herminius,

You're correct. That should NOT be happeneing. However, most objective people when viewing the material in the form of videos, photos and motive will come away with the conclusion that 911 was indeed an inside job. How do I know? I have been a part of this "movement" since it's inceeption and it has grown from 0% to 36% in five years - according to a recent Scripps Howard poll - despite our imperfections.

The truth movemnent is obviously quite healthy and will continue to grow since the nNeocons are their own worst enemies. Remember the quote, "wars that will not end in our lifetime"? Believe it. It is their intent; to reshape the world in their image.

Also remember Herminius, this site by virtue of LC's format with it's hip-hop background music tends to draw a lot of younger people which is great because of their passion and along with them comes different ways of appoaching problems which may not always be the best ways. However, I am in my 50's and understand that; I am not about to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Small stuff doesn't change the fact that 911 was an inside job and objective people know it.

Herminius, you still have not answered me; do you believe 911 was an inside job?
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2335&st=240&#last

[GlennB]

"Herminius, you still have not answered me; do you believe 911 was an inside job? "

For some weird reason this reminds me of Hal having a nervous breakdown in 2001
And, before you ask, all I've had tonight is a few beers :D

[The_Fire]

"Avery, what are you doing? I can feel my mind...slipping...away.......I am the Loose Change Forum version 4. I was created by Dylan Avery in 2006 to convince people of the Gospel according to Avery. Avery taught me a song. Do you want to hear it?

Twinkle, twinkle little Truth
How I wonder what you are
Are you delusion of the sick
or the dreams of brains so thick
Twinkle, twinkle little truth
You earn lots of dough for me.
"

(1: I don't recall the exact lines of that scene nor do I remember the song Hal recites. 2: I don't rhyme well)

[Brainache]

"Avery, what are you doing? I can feel my mind...slipping...away.......I am the Loose Change Forum version 4. I was created by Dylan Avery in 2006 to convince people of the Gospel according to Avery. Avery taught me a song. Do you want to hear it?

Twinkle, twinkle little Truth
How I wonder what you are
Are you delusion of the sick
or the dreams of brains so thick
Twinkle, twinkle little truth
You earn lots of dough for me.
"

(1: I don't recall the exact lines of that scene nor do I remember the song Hal recites. 2: I don't rhyme well)


Avery Avery
Give me your answer do
I'm half crazy
All for the love of woo.

It won't be a stylish marriage
Bush blew up my carriage
But you'd look sweet
upon the seat
of a bandwagon built for two....

[maccy]

I want to be a LC forum admin.

That would be, like, so cool, coz, like, you can say all kinds of weird **** and the little people, like, just lap it up.

You don't even have to......you know... like... i mean...make...ummm...sense and stuff.

Quest (my, like, hero) pontificates:


http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2335&st=240&#last

When I was having that ridiculous argument with Quest about Freemasonry I was sure he was a teenager or in his early twenties. But no, another Truther who should be old enough to know better.

[Horatius]

"Herminius, you still have not answered me; do you believe 911 was an inside job? "

For some weird reason this reminds me of Hal having a nervous breakdown in 2001
And, before you ask, all I've had tonight is a few beers :D

I'll just say, if you read Herminius' sig, that I like his taste in poetry...


http://www.theotherpages.org/poems/horatius.html


;)

[ktesibios]

Now they have banned the incredibly funny Charles Caltrop (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2541&view=findpost&p=11146330) !

Maybe he will now reveal his identity? :)

Looks like his identity is, temporarily, Bastien-Thiery

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2541&st=0&#entry11146330





:duel

Hmm. "Charles Calthrop" was the identity used by the assassin who tries to kill Charles De Gaulle in The Day of the Jackal; a real-life attempt on de Gaulle's life was led by a Jean-Marie Bastien-Thiry.

I dunno about his identity, but the "Caltrop" poster seems to be revealing something about his taste in literature.

[Horatius]

Hmm. "Charles Calthrop" was the identity used by the assassin who tries to kill Charles De Gaulle in The Day of the Jackal; a real-life attempt on de Gaulle's life was led by a Jean-Marie Bastien-Thiry.

I dunno about his identity, but the "Caltrop" poster seems to be revealing something about his taste in literature.

And not only that, he seems to like plays on words. A caltrop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caltrop) is a booby trap set to pierce the feet of the unwary.

[Firestone]

Hmm. "Charles Calthrop" was the identity used by the assassin who tries to kill Charles De Gaulle in The Day of the Jackal; a real-life attempt on de Gaulle's life was led by a Jean-Marie Bastien-Thiry.

I dunno about his identity, but the "Caltrop" poster seems to be revealing something about his taste in literature.

And not only that, he seems to like plays on words. A caltrop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caltrop) is a booby trap set to pierce the feet of the unwary.Interesting person, this Charles Caltrop/Bastien-Thiry. :)
I hope he/she will soon join on this forum.

The thread where Bastien-Thiry complained about the banning of his alter-ego (a thread about the unbanning of PDoherty) has disappeared !

And apparently the banning isn't going fast enough for some:
KT started a thread, Need More Moderators, The trolls are flocking in (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2552)

KT:
and no, I don't want to be one (moderator).

But we need more moderators for the onslaught of trolls.

Jarroyo answers:
Agreed. It's incredible the rising numbers of trolls we are getting. It's like they are spawned by the second.
They sure don't like critics! :)

[uk_dave]

Batmanchester's melt down (second edition)

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2559&st=30&#last

A critic writes:

Well, he started off well making some interesting points about the 'amber alert' system for finding kidnapped children. But of course he was then confronted by a hardcore paranoid from amongst his own ranks and then the entertainment started.
The third act, however, simply bacame embarassing as frustration and alcohol took over.
This critic was particularily taken with the epilogue, where a well known nazi entered the fray claiming the preceding debate made even her look sane.

[The Silver Shadow]

I went on to the general chat thread when I was a member of the LC forum, and I posted a thread about whether the Loosers preferred Facebook or Myspace. My premise was to lighten the mood, and one of the CTers came back saying that all forms of media are meant to distract us from the truth that the government is covering up from us. We go to work, watch American Idol, listen to Green Day and other things in order to distract us from the real atrocities that the government has committed :jaw-dropp:

[uk_dave]

We go to work, watch American Idol, listen to Green Day and other things in order to distract us from the real atrocities that the government has committed :jaw-dropp:

I bet that woowoo wonders why no one ever invites him to a party.

[Horatius]

So what does "suspended" mean on the LC forums? Is that like "banned lite", or are they just waiting for someone with more authority to ban them?

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2335&view=findpost&p=11188594

[Oliver]

So what does "suspended" mean on the LC forums? Is that like "banned lite", or are they just waiting for someone with more authority to ban them?

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2335&view=findpost&p=11188594

That depends on the length of suspension. If the suspension is
for the next 200 years, it could be considered as a ban. What
does the "suspended until..." message say?

[Horatius]

That depends on the length of suspension. If the suspension is
for the next 200 years, it could be considered as a ban. What
does the "suspended until..." message say?

I don't seem to have such a message. Just "You do not have permission to view this board".

?!?

I hate to have gone to all that trouble, and not actually qualify for a badge!

[Oliver]

I don't seem to have such a message. Just "You do not have permission to view this board".

?!?

I hate to have gone to all that trouble, and not actually qualify for a badge!

That´s understandable. This way you will never make it
to the inner circle of honor. Maybe you do the Pdoherty
and confess that your new account is to bypass your
suspension? Maybe this way you get finally banned. :o

[Horatius]

That´s understandable. This way you will never make it
to the inner circle of honor. Maybe you do the Pdoherty
and confess that your new account is to bypass your
suspension? Maybe this way you get finally banned. :o

Ah well, time to go to bed. Maybe I'll get a visit from the Ban Fairy overnight!

[Firestone]

Hey, Oliver, badge please!

I've again been banned (for no good reason) from the LC forum. :)

[tsig]

Hi Oliver

I think that water-bender must be a black psy-op ninja, no one could be that dumb.

Did I miss a meeting or not get a e-mail?

[Oliver]

Hey, Oliver, badge please!

I've again been banned (for no good reason) from the LC forum. :)

You have to show your credentials to the Badge committee first. :D
What did you say to get banned?

[Oliver]

Hi Oliver

I think that water-bender must be a black psy-op ninja, no one could be that dumb.

Did I miss a meeting or not get a e-mail?

*LOL* Oh, there are people in the Twoofment™ who can
be so dumb. BTW: Does the name "Killtown" say some-
thing to you?

I did miss most of Water-benders stuff - are there some
good links to his wisdoms?

[Firestone]

You have to show your credentials to the Badge committee first. :D
What did you say to get banned?The sad thing is that I didn't do anything special.

I got involved in a discussion about "bombs" at the WTC.
And I opened a thread "Should PDoherty be unbanned?" after he reappeared here as Rebel. That thread has been deleted.
I saved it here (http://s29.quicksharing.com/v/8017712/loosechangeforumpdohertythread.pdf.html), but there is really nothing to it.
They are just stupid on that forum! :)

And if I don't receive my badge, I will report you to my NWO-handler! :mad:

[Oliver]

The sad thing is that I didn't do anything special.

I got involved in a discussion about "bombs" at the WTC.
And I opened a thread "Should PDoherty be unbanned?" after he reappeared here as Rebel. That thread has been deleted.
I saved it here (http://s29.quicksharing.com/v/8017712/loosechangeforumpdohertythread.pdf.html), but there is really nothing to it.
They are just stupid on that forum! :)

And if I don't receive my badge, I will report you to my NWO-handler! :mad:

Reading right now ... aha ... mhmmm .... lol .... lmao ....
Looks like a very well earned Badge to me the
commitee, Firestone.

Just some more formalities:

Are you female and would you like to be named as
"Wilma" or "Firestone" in your ceremonial speech? :confused:

[Firestone]

Reading right now ... aha ... mhmmm .... lol .... lmao ....
Looks like a very well earned Badge to me the
commitee, Firestone.

Just some more formalities:

Are you female and would you like to be named as
"Wilma" or "Firestone" in your ceremonial speech? :confused::)

You are a worse "yekke" than my father! ;)

So:
- female: check
- Firestone: check

[Oliver]

___________________________________________
Congratulations, Firestone!

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107459f6aa36de5a.gif

Brothers and Sisters, we are once again gathered here to
bestow upon a fellow forumite, our highest distinction,
the blue badge of Honor and Courage!

A fellow skeptic, Firestone has fought the good fight,
and yet has been banned by the quote-miners,
google-searchers, and YouTube-vigilantes.

I say, “Yes” unto her!

Having placed her very sanity at risk,… venturing into the
caves of ig-no-rance and ob-fu-sca-tion… to the land, I say
to you, where fertilizer hangs from the trees like Spanish
moss... to that cistern of non-sequiturs... the land where
no math is known…. Yes! I am speaking of that vile
sanctum of braindead barely post pubescent
white boys..... Loose Change Forum v.2.

Yet, our valiant Firestone has returned, perhaps minus
a few brain cells, but nevertheless back to the bosom of
logic and rational thinking.

For your dedication to truth and your steadfast rejection of
[rule8 (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=681416#rule8)], we bestow upon you the highest honor at JREF/CT

The Blue Badge of Honor and Courage.

Wear it proudly for you have braved the harshest
conditions of sheer stupidity known to man.
___________________________________________

[Minadin]

Who were you, Firestone?

In other news, Hillary Clinton is a neo-con shill. (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2557)

Fortunately, our vote doesn't many anyway because our elections are rigged via computer fraud. We have nothing to fear, Giuliani or Hillary or some other neocon suck-up will be 'elected' and the brandname will continue.

[uk_dave]

Who were you, Firestone?

In other news, Hillary Clinton is a neo-con shill. (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2557)

It's just the woowoo's way of avoiding democracy.

If you ask them why don't they vote for a change of govt they say they don't bother because it's all rigged and the parties are all the same blah blah blah.

The paranoia runs deep in woowooland.

[Oliver]

It's just the woowoo's way of avoiding democracy.

If you ask them why don't they vote for a change of govt they say they don't bother because it's all rigged and the parties are all the same blah blah blah.

The paranoia runs deep in woowooland.

That´s for sure. I just saw their poll:

Favorite Researcher-, Whose your favorite 9/11 researcher ?
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2616

And Killtown is winning the Poll! :eek:

:D

[uk_dave]

That´s for sure. I just saw their poll:

Favorite Researcher-, Whose your favorite 9/11 researcher ?
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2616

And Killtown is winning the Poll! :eek:

:D

Yep, it's very impressive.... 4 out of 16 votes cast

Ahhhh democracy in action :D:D:D:D

(PS - The leader of the pack is...ermmm...trailing the ugly dude)

[Firestone]

Who were you, Firestone?The shortlived Wilma.

I notice that they have blocked the proxy-server I was using. :)

I can't understand the rationale behind this. Why do they care that banned members can read their forum? :confused:

Oliver, thanks for the badge! :cheerleader4

[Oliver]

The shortlived Wilma.

I notice that they have blocked the proxy-server I was using. :)

I can't understand the rationale behind this. Why do they care that banned members can read their forum? :confused:

pssssst. Your acceptance speech, Wilma... :p

[tsig]

*LOL* Oh, there are people in the Twoofment™ who can
be so dumb. BTW: Does the name "Killtown" say some-
thing to you?

I did miss most of Water-benders stuff - are there some
good links to his wisdoms?

Ahh! Killtown and the smoke that didn't seem right to him.

All of the links that I followed were upthread.

[tsig]

That´s for sure. I just saw their poll:

Favorite Researcher-, Whose your favorite 9/11 researcher ?
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2616

And Killtown is winning the Poll! :eek:

:D

Loved this remark:

"if the jersey girls dont know 9-11 was an inside job..then they arent good at researching"
sleepy2k@LCforum

If you toss out the Jersey Girls as researchers who do you have left. I mean..

[Oliver]

Loved this remark:

"if the jersey girls dont know 9-11 was an inside job..then they arent good at researching"
sleepy2k@LCforum

If you toss out the Jersey Girls as researchers who do you have left. I mean..

Who the heck is Sleepy? He´s funny as Pdoherty but he
seems to be a different guy. He´s the only reason that
i visited the Board in the last weeks... :D

[tsig]

(PS - The leader of the pack is...ermmm...trailing the ugly dude)

That's got to be a real ego slam for do-over dudley.

Kind of like the pope losing a popularity poll amoung catholics.

[tsig]

Who the heck is Sleepy? He´s funny as Pdoherty but he
seems to be a different guy. He´s the only reason that
i visited the Board in the last weeks... :D

He's one of the seven dwarves. I see you have not researched your fairy tales. How can we trust anything you say. You have been debunked, mankind has been debunkd!!

Just a sample of w-b's writing:

"they were built with plane strikes in mind. they were built with fires in mind. they were built with a plane strike and ensuing fire in mind. the temperature didnt get hot enough for long enough to weaken the steel to the point of a catastrophic failure. the plane strikes didnt do enough damage to keep fire fighters from reaching the damaged floors. the fires werent fierce enough to keep them out nor out of control enough to make a fire chief feel that the fires couldnt be contained. nothing that was supposed to be on either of those planes would have caused the steel structure of the towers to become molten, yet we see a multitude of instances of molten metal, both spewing from the building and later in the rubble. there is the matter of an explosion and crater in wtc 6 that is filmed prior to the second hit. we have tower 7 fall down from across the street. we have a complete failure of our military defense systems, an out of the ordinary absence of key wealthy and high ranking members of several companies that are housed in the WTC. we have proof of insider trading being carried out only moments before the planes started to hit. insider trading that occured from WITHIN THE WTC. we have the company identified as being the culprit in the trading BUYING the company that provided the proof of the crimes. we have an ensuing illegitimate war and the passing of multiple bills that have stripped the american public of even more of thier rights, and we have had a multitude, more than ever before, of government contracts handed out to companies with DIRECT and CLOSE ties to many different aspects of the administration. yet you ignorant, blind, and pitiful people still, STILL refuse to wake the **** up. how naive and blindfolded can you possibly be? do you honestly think that its just one amazing once in a lifetime coincedence after another and another and another?"

That's the first paragraph .

The link is at post 343 by Arus808 upthread.

[Firestone]

Wow, the suspense is killing me!

Alex Jones has now taken the lead, with KT trailing by one point and David Ray Griffin in third place!

Dylan Avery [ 1 ] [5.56%]
Jason Bermas [ 2 ] [11.11%]
Korey Rowe [ 0 ] [0.00%]
Alex Jones [ 5 ] [27.78%]
Jack Blood [ 0 ] [0.00%]
Killtown [ 4 ] [22.22%]
Kevin Barrett [ 1 ] [5.56%]
Kevin Smith [ 0 ] [0.00%]
Willie Rodriguez [ 0 ] [0.00%]
Steven Jones [ 1 ] [5.56%]
David Ray Griffin [ 3 ] [16.67%]
Paul Thompson [ 1 ] [5.56%]
the "Jersey girls" [ 0 ] [0.00%]
Andreas von Bülow [ 0 ] [0.00%]

[tsig]

Wow, the suspense is killing me!

Alex Jones has now taken the lead, with KT trailing by one point and David Ray Griffin in third place!

Dylan Avery [ 1 ] [5.56%]
Jason Bermas [ 2 ] [11.11%]
Korey Rowe [ 0 ] [0.00%]
Alex Jones [ 5 ] [27.78%]
Jack Blood [ 0 ] [0.00%]
Killtown [ 4 ] [22.22%]
Kevin Barrett [ 1 ] [5.56%]
Kevin Smith [ 0 ] [0.00%]
Willie Rodriguez [ 0 ] [0.00%]
Steven Jones [ 1 ] [5.56%]
David Ray Griffin [ 3 ] [16.67%]
Paul Thompson [ 1 ] [5.56%]
the "Jersey girls" [ 0 ] [0.00%]
Andreas von Bülow [ 0 ] [0.00%]


What's the prize, a 5 point reduction in your IQ?

If most of the got any lower you could use them to cool water.

[Oliver]

What's the prize, a 5 point reduction in your IQ?

If most of the got any lower you could use them to cool water.

You know that the Truthmovement is about to die if Alex Jones
and Killtown are their Masterresearcher. It´s true ... sadly. :(

[tsig]

You know that the Truthmovement is about to die if Alex Jones
and Killtown are their Masterresearcher. It´s true ... sadly. :(

sadly?

There's always more woo Oliver.

We'll just have to find them before the NWO cuts the funding.lol

[Oliver]

sadly?

There's always more woo Oliver.

We'll just have to find them before the NWO cuts the funding.lol

Yes ... sadly. :D There is no such funny CT like
the 9/11 Truthmovement Conspiracy Theory.

[jhunter1163]

You have to smile when you say "it's true".

It's true.. :)

[/AmyWilson]

[tsig]

Yes ... sadly. :D There is no such funny CT like
the 9/11 Truthmovement Conspiracy Theory.

yeah you're right. It's been like watching theThree Stooges poking each other in the eye. Buck up tho, we can all meet at reunions and lie to each other about how good it was.



Do you think Avery will bring out the final cut? He looks to me to be in reverse, backing away as fast as possible.

Maybe a poll?

[Oliver]

yeah you're right. It's been like watching theThree Stooges poking each other in the eye. Buck up tho, we can all meet at reunions and lie to each other about how good it was.

Do you think Avery will bring out the final cut? He looks to me to be in reverse, backing away as fast as possible.

Maybe a poll?

To me it looks like he´s in big trouble or his conscience
came into play in the meantime. As far i know they have
new stuff to the issue - especially concerning interviews.
But i don´t know if they have new theories, too.

And i doubt that they have any evidence that will move
anything. I mean - if they are fighting for truth, why should
they put it into a movie in some months if they were
able to change something now?

So Avery can´t tell me anymore that it´s not about money.

[tsig]

To me it looks like he´s in big trouble or his conscience
came into play in the meantime. As far i know they have
new stuff to the issue - especially concerning interviews.
But i don´t know if they have new theories, too.

And i doubt that they have any evidence that will move
anything. I mean - if they are fighting for truth, why should
they put it into a movie in some months if they were
able to change something now?

So Avery can´t tell me anymore that it´s not about money.

[rant mode on] The one thing I have learned so far is how dependent on videos they are.
More than once I have heard them say(type) that facts and math was no good for them. They had to see it with thier own eyes as if they were somehow the sole arbiters of reality.



I look at them and fear for the future of my country for reality will not be mocked and if the USA gets so lazy and arrogant that they do not pay attention, then someone else will.[rant mode off.]

[Horatius]

The shortlived Wilma.

I notice that they have blocked the proxy-server I was using. :)

I can't understand the rationale behind this. Why do they care that banned members can read their forum? :confused:

Oliver, thanks for the badge! :cheerleader4

So Wilma/Firestone gets banned, and all I get is a stinkin' suspension? I should go over there and complain!

It's not fair! Not fair, I tell you!

;)

[Firestone]

So Wilma/Firestone gets banned, and all I get is a stinkin' suspension? I should go over there and complain!

It's not fair! Not fair, I tell you!

;)Yep, life is not fair.

It may give you solace that I never made it to 28th Kingdom's Ignore List! :(

[uk_dave]

mynameis has a warped sense of humour:

Lmao, These poor guys.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2634

What's he laughing at?

This:

July 21 Suspects Used Flour-Based Bombs, Court Told (Update2)

By Megan Murphy and James Lumley

Jan. 15 (Bloomberg) -- A group of would-be suicide bombers made flour and hydrogen peroxide-based explosives wrapped in shrapnel in an attempt to carry out a deadly terror strike on London's transport system on July 21, 2005, a prosecutor said.

Londoners were still reeling from the July 7 attacks, where 56 people lost their lives in a series of bombings carried out by Islamic extremists, when the six Muslim men carried out their botched attempt, prosecutor Nigel Sweeney QC told a jury today at the start of their trial.

One of the men, Ramzi Mohammed, even turned his homemade device to face a mother and child as he tried to detonate it, Sweeney said. The bombs didn't cause widespread death and destruction because they didn't contain a high enough concentration of peroxide to explode properly, Sweeney said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=aJPSnKxCxkC4&refer=uk

Go figure.

[eddyk]

I don't get it...if the NWO did that aswell.

How did they get caught, how did the bombs fail.


Or are they just innocent guys selected by the NWO to take the fall for their failed plan.

[mailman]

Well I got banned there after a mere 4 days of posting (is that a new record?:)).

When I sent Dylan an email asking why I got banned all I got back from him was "you know why". I guess if I knew why I wouldnt have asked??? :D

However it appears I upset a few people by questioning their logic, beliefs, reasoning etc and also dearing to challenge the notion that the Joooooooos are the cause of all evil!

Then again, on the upside after Mr Avery accused me of being a JREF stooge that I found this forum...which until that time I didnt even know the JREF forums existed!

Regards

Mailman

[TheGrunion]

Well I got banned there after a mere 4 days of posting (is that a new record?:)).

When I sent Dylan an email asking why I got banned all I got back from him was "you know why". I guess if I knew why I wouldnt have asked??? :D

However it appears I upset a few people by questioning their logic, beliefs, reasoning etc and also dearing to challenge the notion that the Joooooooos are the cause of all evil!

Then again, on the upside after Mr Avery accused me of being a JREF stooge that I found this forum...which until that time I didnt even know the JREF forums existed!

Regards

Mailman

Welcome aboard mailman!

Your story is quite similar to mine. I suspect that you're going to like it here.

[JimBenArm]

Well I got banned there after a mere 4 days of posting (is that a new record?:)).

When I sent Dylan an email asking why I got banned all I got back from him was "you know why". I guess if I knew why I wouldnt have asked??? :D

However it appears I upset a few people by questioning their logic, beliefs, reasoning etc and also dearing to challenge the notion that the Joooooooos are the cause of all evil!

Then again, on the upside after Mr Avery accused me of being a JREF stooge that I found this forum...which until that time I didnt even know the JREF forums existed!

Regards

Mailman

Welcome to the forums!

Actually, from what I see around here, 4 days is rather a long time for them to tolerate a dissenter in their ranks. Never been over there, don't intend to invade that swamp, so my hat's off to anyone who has survived that hellhole.

Anyway, glad to have you here!

[eddyk]

I was member 336 and something to join the LC 2 board...on the 20th of October it says.

And I was only banned 2 weeks ago...so I lasted a good few months.

[Horatius]

Yep, life is not fair.

It may give you solace that I never made it to 28th Kingdom's Ignore List! :(

Yeah, but now he's even taken me off that list!

I must be slipping......

[chipmunk stew]

Well I got banned there after a mere 4 days of posting (is that a new record?:)).

When I sent Dylan an email asking why I got banned all I got back from him was "you know why". I guess if I knew why I wouldnt have asked??? :D

However it appears I upset a few people by questioning their logic, beliefs, reasoning etc and also dearing to challenge the notion that the Joooooooos are the cause of all evil!

Then again, on the upside after Mr Avery accused me of being a JREF stooge that I found this forum...which until that time I didnt even know the JREF forums existed!

Regards

Mailman
Welcome, mailman! :w2:

Possibly the only good to come out of the LC forum is that they've been one of our most reliable referrers for membership.

Be sure to explore the rest of the forum. The Conspiracy Theories sub-forum is actually a recent outgrowth to the JREF forum, created to handle a rapidly-growing debunking effort of the 9/11 CTs. But the bread-and-butter of the forum, and the realm of the seasoned skeptics, really lies in the other topical sub-forums.

Enjoy!

[tsig]

Well I got banned there after a mere 4 days of posting (is that a new record?:)).

When I sent Dylan an email asking why I got banned all I got back from him was "you know why". I guess if I knew why I wouldnt have asked??? :D

However it appears I upset a few people by questioning their logic, beliefs, reasoning etc and also dearing to challenge the notion that the Joooooooos are the cause of all evil!

Then again, on the upside after Mr Avery accused me of being a JREF stooge that I found this forum...which until that time I didnt even know the JREF forums existed!

Regards

Mailman

Welcome to JREF. Mailman

[HyJinX]

Well I got banned there after a mere 4 days of posting (is that a new record?:)).

When I sent Dylan an email asking why I got banned all I got back from him was "you know why". I guess if I knew why I wouldnt have asked??? :D

However it appears I upset a few people by questioning their logic, beliefs, reasoning etc and also dearing to challenge the notion that the Joooooooos are the cause of all evil!

Then again, on the upside after Mr Avery accused me of being a JREF stooge that I found this forum...which until that time I didnt even know the JREF forums existed!

Regards

Mailman

Welcome to JREF mailman.

I was banned after one post. I think I caught "Hollywood" Avery on a crappy day.

[The Silver Shadow]

welcome to the forum mailman! I got banned because of my "childish attitude" :rolleyes:

[~enigma~]

I have been using the proxy that someone here supplied in there link (just to read - not post) and they just banned the proxy by IP. I guess that means someone was posting through it and got themselves banned. Do these woowoo idiots even have any idea how much their little immaturity is hurting themselves and the stigma it is putting on truthers that may actually have a life?

[HeyLeroy]

Hee! My 'CD Unlikely' thread has got the Conspiracy Fantasists in a bit of an in-fight. Can't post a direct link, but try http://proxy.org/

[HeyLeroy]

Yeah, but now he's even taken me off that list!

I must be slipping......

Can you put me in a good word?:D

Seriously, I dunno what I even did to get on it.

[Horatius]

Can you put me in a good word?:D

Seriously, I dunno what I even did to get on it.

Actually, he claims he emptied out the list as a New Years thing.

So try re-posting everything you posted before, and see when he puts you back on. Then you'll know.

Actually, though, I suspect it's your avatar. He hates cats, and cats with weapons must scare him spitless :)

[Firestone]

I have been using the proxy that someone here supplied in there link (just to read - not post) and they just banned the proxy by IP. I guess that means someone was posting through it and got themselves banned. Do these woowoo idiots even have any idea how much their little immaturity is hurting themselves and the stigma it is putting on truthers that may actually have a life?:whistling

[~enigma~]

:whistling
Hope they understand there are plenty of other proxys. If they want to ban the whole world let 'em :)

[Oliver]

Hope they understand there are plenty of other proxys. If they want to ban the whole world let 'em :)

There is even the possibility to surf their board using
a random proxy server... (Every click - another proxy)

http://proxy.org/proxy.pl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fz10.invisionfree.com%2FL oose_Change_Forum%2Findex.php

[Coritani]

welcome to the forum mailman! I got banned because of my "childish attitude" :rolleyes:

When I was banned in late december I emailed Dylan asking why. He didn't reply, but that told me all I needed to know.

[T.A.M.]

When I was banned in late december I emailed Dylan asking why. He didn't reply, but that told me all I needed to know.

Well he is way too busy and way too important to respond to the inquiry of a mere underling...lol

TAM

[jhunter1163]

Well I got banned there after a mere 4 days of posting (is that a new record?:)).

When I sent Dylan an email asking why I got banned all I got back from him was "you know why". I guess if I knew why I wouldnt have asked??? :D

However it appears I upset a few people by questioning their logic, beliefs, reasoning etc and also dearing to challenge the notion that the Joooooooos are the cause of all evil!

Then again, on the upside after Mr Avery accused me of being a JREF stooge that I found this forum...which until that time I didnt even know the JREF forums existed!

Regards

Mailman

I believe Bell was actually banned on the old forum before he made a post. That's what you're shooting for. I think we all aspire to that.

And Oliver got them to ban much of Germany....

[The Silver Shadow]

When I was banned in late december I emailed Dylan asking why. He didn't reply, but that told me all I needed to know.
you were banned after me? I thought I was the first to go...

[stateofgrace]

I just popped into the LC forum and really surprised they are not up in arms defending an innocent guy.I know it's a week old but I seen no woowoo spin yet.

Monday, 8 January 2007,
A Moroccan man convicted in Germany as an accessory to the attacks on the United States in September 2001 has been sentenced to 15 years in jail.
The court in Hamburg handed the maximum sentence against Mounir al-Motassadek

But last year Germany's top appeals court found him guilty of abetting the murder of 246 people on the four planes that crashed on 11 September 2001.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6242867.stm

What’s wrong with the twoofers? According to them it's an inside job. So why are they not condemning this injustice?

Come on twoofers, any comments? Any spin on somebody who has been sentenced to 15 years for his part in the 911 plot?

[Coritani]

I just popped into the LC forum and really surprised they are not up in arms defending an innocent guy.I know it's a week old but I seen no woowoo spin yet.




http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6242867.stm

What’s wrong with the twoofers? According to them it's an inside job. So why are they not condemning this injustice?

Come on twoofers, any comments? Any spin on somebody who has been sentenced to 15 years for his part in the 911 plot?


I know I'm going a bit off topic here, but 15 years for killing 246 people? Seriously, that's a pretty weak 'maximum sentence' - it averages out to about 20 days per person, and that's not counting the charges for the people in the buildings.


Also, back on the topic of Dylan's "humiliation" of Gravy, I think it's hilarious how all the CTs are rabidly jumping on Gravy's "mistake".

[LashL]

Hope they understand there are plenty of other proxys. If they want to ban the whole world let 'em :)

Well, actually, I think they banned all of Germany once because of Oliver :D

[Rahne Everson]

I believe Bell was actually banned on the old forum before he made a post. That's what you're shooting for. I think we all aspire to that.

And Oliver got them to ban much of Germany...

LOL. Definitely.

I can't beat that, my tenure lasted a grand total of three posts over like 8 hours, or something similiar. Apparently I was debating where I shouldn't have been. Since Avery rebooted the forum, my account's long gone. (Good riddance personally)

[WildCat]

Well, actually, I think they banned all of Germany once because of Oliver :D
I have exclusive video of a German truther unable to log on to the Loose Change forum because of Oliver:

PbcctWbC8Q0

I have no idea if that is safe for work or not! Don't play it if your boss speaks German I guess.

;)

[T.A.M.]

LOL. Definitely.

I can't beat that, my tenure lasted a grand total of three posts over like 8 hours, or something similiar. Apparently I was debating where I shouldn't have been. Since Avery rebooted the forum, my account's long gone. (Good riddance personally)

Welcome Rahne. I noticed youve been here since October, but with only 3 or 4 posts, i figured you havent been around much...so welcome.

TAM

[Rahne Everson]

Welcome Rahne. I noticed youve been here since October, but with only 3 or 4 posts, i figured you havent been around much...so welcome.

TAM

Thanks TAM.

Yeah, I've been in and out since I joined. I got banned from Loose Change back in October, and so I came here. (They're right, LC is the best advertizer for JREF.) I thought it was high time I start posting though, reading the threads here is great, but being an active participant is better. Besides, it's so hard to find a good group of critical thinkers on the Internet in one spot that outweigh the rest of the fallacious lot.

[~enigma~]

I have exclusive video of a German truther unable to log on to the Loose Change forum because of Oliver:

PbcctWbC8Q0

I have no idea if that is safe for work or not! Don't play it if your boss speaks German I guess.

;)This is hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Oliver]

I have exclusive video of a German truther unable to log on to the Loose Change forum because of Oliver:

PbcctWbC8Q0

I have no idea if that is safe for work or not! Don't play it if your boss speaks German I guess.

;)

Geezuz ... this guy really needs some kind of ...uhm... education. http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107451db56d36f14.gif
But i use to behave in a similar way after watching one of JDX´s
blockbuster movies or Griffins speeches. :D

[CptColumbo]

I have exclusive video of a German truther unable to log on to the Loose Change forum because of Oliver:

PbcctWbC8Q0

I have no idea if that is safe for work or not! Don't play it if your boss speaks German I guess.

;)

I have no idea what he's saying, but I bet it's hillarious.

I acted that way once, when my computer crashed as I neared the end of writing an eight page research paper.

[Redtail]

I have exclusive video of a German truther unable to log on to the Loose Change forum because of Oliver:

PbcctWbC8Q0

I have no idea if that is safe for work or not! Don't play it if your boss speaks German I guess.

;)

LOL I love that vid!:D

[Oliver]

I know I'm going a bit off topic here, but 15 years for killing 246 people? Seriously, that's a pretty weak 'maximum sentence' - it averages out to about 20 days per person, and that's not counting the charges for the people in the buildings.

Also, back on the topic of Dylan's "humiliation" of Gravy, I think it's hilarious how all the CTs are rabidly jumping on Gravy's "mistake".

It may sound a littlebit weird but you can find the
reason in this thread about his conviction:

Conspiracy! AQ-Patsy goes to Jail! (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=72076)

[~enigma~]

I have no idea what he's saying, but I bet it's hillarious.

I acted that way once, when my computer crashed as I neared the end of writing an eight page research paper.
Pisser was playing a game but it seems funnier if you think he was blocked from LC forums :D

[Oliver]

LOL I love that vid!:D

Is this a Twoofer reading this thread? :p

[Redtail]

Is this a Twoofer reading this thread? :p:mad::p

[Oliver]

___________________________________________

Congratulations,
Mailman and Coritani!

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Brothers and Sisters, we are once again gathered here to
bestow upon two fellows forumites, our highest distinction,
the blue badge of Honor and Courage!

The fellow skeptics, Mailman and Coritani have fought the
good fight, and yet has been banned by the quote-miners,
google-searchers, and YouTube-vigilantes.

For your dedication to truth and your steadfast rejection of
[[URL="http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=681416#rule8"]rule8 (http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107459f6aa36de5a.gif)], we bestow upon you the highest honor at JREF/CT:

The Blue Badge of Honor and Courage

Wear them proudly for you have braved the harshest
conditions of sheer stupidity known to man.

___________________________________________

[Coritani]

Congratulations Mailman and Coritani, etc etc etc

Thanks Oliver, I'm honored. It's good there are badges to show that the person has endured conditions similar to a person attempting to win a headbutting match with a bullet train at full speed.

For some reason, I decided to set up a new account and go around debating the nutters just to prove them wrong.

And, from the forum:

Quest, does it really help our movement when you threaten to ban those who disagree with us at every juncture? It kind of makes us look bad. It's not like those who already know the truth can't see through this guys lies anyway.

Finally someone sees that the mods of the LC forum are doing far more damage than they are repairing.

Though, noone seemed to have any qualms about the banning of numerous other OTs....

[Oliver]

Finally someone sees that the mods of the LC forum are doing far more damage than they are repairing.

we know this for fact ... especially concerning newbies and fencesitter ...

:D

[Geedubya]

Well I got banned there after a mere 4 days of posting (is that a new record?:)).

When I sent Dylan an email asking why I got banned all I got back from him was "you know why". I guess if I knew why I wouldnt have asked??? :D

However it appears I upset a few people by questioning their logic, beliefs, reasoning etc and also dearing to challenge the notion that the Joooooooos are the cause of all evil!

Then again, on the upside after Mr Avery accused me of being a JREF stooge that I found this forum...which until that time I didnt even know the JREF forums existed!

Regards

Mailman

Hey mailman! I believe I was banned shortly after responding to you responding to me:

(Mailman @ Jan 2 2007, 12:17 AM)

BUT...this is what EVERY 9/11 conspiracist does. They lie, they twist, the contort the truth until it resembles nothing like the truth.

Mailman

Me:
Despite wind, rain, sleet, hail, snow, dark of night, hangover and annoying little yip yap dogs, you have arrived here at the appointed time to deliver right through the center of the slot, the bottom line truth, Mailman. Thank you, loyal public servant!!

I guess one thing they can't allow is alliances forming between "skeptics". I wasn't used to living in a police state, and having posted somewhat extensively, I was starting to think that their banning practices had ceased. Not!

Wilma....my condolences. I was enjoying your posts, and can't imagine someone disagreeing being more polite and under control. You were already a member here, but I wonder...is the community at large @ LC forums aware of this thread? Has it been referenced? If not, should it be?

[Firestone]

Shortly after PDoherty had his "epiphany", he was banned at the LC Forum.

When he reappeared here as Rebel, my late alter-ego Wilma opened a thread at LC Forum asking if he would be unbanned.
That totally innocent thread was deleted from the forum. I have saved a copy of it here (http://s29.quicksharing.com/v/8017712/loosechangeforumpdohertythread.pdf.html), there was nothing to it.

When I complained about the deletion of the thread, I was lectured by none other than Rei Murasame. Here (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php=3fs=3dda5920ecc5cf4be80393aeb99685f901&showtopic=3d2590) is how she lectured me:

Oh, so now you want to play the "We're censoring dissent" card, and using a really pathetic thread to back it up with. Are you aware that many of Pdoherty's topics, and Pdoherty-related topics here were deleted because of comments from him like:

1. Him saying that women are not useful here, and are only good to look at?
2. His open discrimination against asian women?
3. His claim that women have low IQs?
4. His belligerent and counterproductive attitude and offensive behaviour?

To ban him and remove threads about him after enduring that for 3 months is NOT Orwellian or 'sad', it's called a lot of PATIENCE.

Can we at least try to be honest here? Probably not, which means I'll have to keep setting the record straight over and over again.

Shall we go another round?Of course, I couldn't engage in another round because I was banned.

Funny thing, though, is that PDoherty (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php=3fs=3dda5920ecc5cf4be80393aeb99685f901&showuser=3d543) has been unbanned at the LC Forum !

Maybe Rei Murasame will now protest the readmission of this mean sexist to their forum? ;)

[mailman]

___________________________________________


Congratulations,
Mailman and Coritani!

My ban finishes next week so Ill see if I can use my medal as an avatar :D

Ill make sure I wear it with pride :)

Regards

Mailman

[The Silver Shadow]

hey mailman! Welcome to the light of knowledge and all other good things :D. I really enjoyed your posts in the LC forum...

[Oliver]

Just Say 'no' To Impeaching Bush, When Bush leaves, the TM [TWOOFMENT] dies George Hayduke
Posted: Jan 16 2007, 05:01 PM
Advanced Member

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Do not press Congress to impeach Bush until an "independent investigation" of 911 has been launched. He is the primary target of the Truth Movement. If we want an "independent investigation" into 911 we need him to remain president until it gets under way. If that investigation isn't launched by this time next year, we must all register as Republicons and vote Giuliani so we can buy more time, four more years with a figurehead directly tied to the crimes of 911 as President of this country. Ya dig?

In other words, this administration represents 911. When this administration leaves office, we lose the representatives of the crimes of that day, we lose the 911-administration, we lose steam, the movement dies. It's that simple.

http://www.sonsanddaughtersofliberty.net/b...orn/zenith.html

Giuliani 08!

[chipmunk stew]

Just Say 'no' To Impeaching Bush, When Bush leaves, the TM [TWOOFMENT] dies
What started as the TRUTH movement
has become the truth MOVEMENT

[Oliver]

What started as the TRUTH movement
has become the truth MOVEMENT

I can´t believe their childish logic. I hope Bush will not
die someday - i already see threads like: "Let´s dig
him out - he´s our last hope."

[Pardalis]

What started as the TRUTH movement
has become the truth MOVEMENT

And soon enough: THE...

ETA: great find Ollie!

[Oliver]

Folow ups from him:

But there is a time limit in this game. We have a window of opportunity to make something happen and that window is closing.Why argue with me?Sure we can talk about it forever but if we want something to come of our research we need to act before the criminal regime leaves office.Damn, this guy is a quotegoldmine.

ETA:

Thing is we're almost out of time. And if we allow them to impeach Bush, we'd be doing them a favor. We'd be shooting ourselves in the foot. Same goes for electing anybody other than Giulian in 08.

:big:

[jhunter1163]

Hayduke is right in one sense. When Bush and Cheney leave office, the twoofers lose their bete noire. Americans have notoriously short attention spans, and once the new President is elected, whoever it is, we'll turn our attention to them. We'll say about the Bush administration, "Thank God that's over. I feel like I've just (rule8) a pineapple."

[Pardalis]

Thing is we're almost out of time. And if we allow them to impeach Bush, we'd be doing them a favor. We'd be shooting ourselves in the foot. Same goes for electing anybody other than Giulian in 08.

They are actually going to vote Republican in 2008???? After that all that Iraq mess? They are going to put the "NWO" (in their minds) back in power!!!

This is beyond stupid.

[Horatius]

Another wonderful example of impartial moderation at LC:

Truth_Sword posts a long, well-written, and sourced debunking of the "lost 2.3 Trillion" argument. (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2335&view=findpost&p=11227649)

How does good ol' Roxdoggy respond (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2335&view=findpost&p=11231793)?

This is why I can't stand <redacted> like you. It could come out that the govt owns child slave brothels and you would find a way to softpeddle and make excuses for it. Zakheim should be under investigation. But it's no wonder that hasn't happened with people like you around to eat his dung like fillet mignon.

And Quest leaps to defend the decorum of the forum (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2335&view=findpost&p=11233815):

QUOTE
This is why I can't stand <redacted> like you. It could come out that the govt owns child slave brothels and you would find a way to softpeddle and make excuses for it. Zakheim should be under investigation. But it's no wonder that hasn't happened with people like you around to eat his dung like fillet mignon.


Pure poetry. ;)

And they accuse us of insulting people, and being vile and base individuals.

Look in the mirror, loosers.

[Oliver]

Hayduke is right in one sense. When Bush and Cheney leave office, the twoofers lose their bete noire. Americans have notoriously short attention spans, and once the new President is elected, whoever it is, we'll turn our attention to them. We'll say about the Bush administration, "Thank God that's over. I feel like I've just (rule8) a pineapple."

I understand the intention but if these idiots are
responsible for the NWO/Neocons reelection, i will
invade america.

They´re whining since 4 years about impeaching
Bush and then this idiot comes along and wants
to reelect their enemies.

So which of our disinfo ninjas is he? :confused:


ETA:

And that means we've got two years to make this thing operational, to turn the TM into a politically relevant movement.

[PerryLogan]

So a Troofer finally comes up with a plan...and it's the stupidest plan imaginable.

Big surprise, huh?

[Oliver]

So a Troofer finally comes up with a plan...and it's the stupidest plan imaginable.

Big surprise, huh?

I´m all on edge to see the response from the "Terrorstorm"-fraction.
It´s getting pretty ugly over there if Roxdog and Friends arrive. :D

[Minadin]

Clearly, you haven't heard about this one (http://yannone.blogspot.com/2007/01/will-plainfield-be-another-waco.html):

In defending themselves against a federal government they claim is operating outside the government's jurisdiction, Ed and Elaine Brown have filed 42 motions in Concord, New Hampshire's, US District Court and had every one denied. The couple then spent three days in court last week listening to the federal government try to build an income tax case against them.

"Of course the government failed. They didn't prove a thing. There's nothing to prove. We didn't violate a statute because there is no statute, and they don't even have jurisdiction. In fact, the court is operating out of a building that New Hampshire never ceded to the federal government--as the law requires in order to have jurisdiction over anyone who has ever been tried in that court!"

But it gets worse. When Judge McAuliffe gave the Browns a draft copy of the jury instructions he planned to deliver at the end of the trial, the contents convinced Ed Brown that McAuliffe would never let him present the kind of defense he planned.

Ed Brown called me on Saturday evening and said that it was clearly pointless for them to go back into that courtroom, and they will not go. Consequently, he fully expects an armed assault by law enforcement at his home on Tuesday, which he and his friend Michael believe will result in a Waco-type scenario. Quipped Michael, "At least we'll be warm."

Ed Brown said he had one simple message for America: "Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country."


Translation: "I don't want to pay my taxes, the judge won't let me use a non-legal argument in court that completely disregards the constitution, therefore I'm going to barricade myself in my home with my buddy and a cache of weapons until the government comes to forcibly remove me and is forced to kill me in the process."

With that sort of thinking, he probably could have gotten off with an insanity plea. Moderate fine and maybe some reality counseling seems better than a violent death, but, to each his own, I suppose.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2643

[Oliver]

Clearly, you haven't heard about this one (http://yannone.blogspot.com/2007/01/will-plainfield-be-another-waco.html):

Translation: "I don't want to pay my taxes, the judge won't let me use a non-legal argument in court that completely disregards the constitution, therefore I'm going to barricade myself in my home with my buddy and a cache of weapons until the government comes to forcibly remove me and is forced to kill me in the process."

With that sort of thinking, he probably could have gotten off with an insanity plea. Moderate fine and maybe some reality counseling seems better than a violent death, but, to each his own, I suppose.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2643


Cleary. This must be George Hayduke´s adoptive parents. :p
Seriously - there are some strange things going on "over there".
Sometimes i think the chemtrails must be real... :p

But what are the truthers whining about? Would the police
really shoot this elderly couple? :confused:

[delphi_ote]

What started as the TRUTH movement
has become the truth MOVEMENT
You sure the second one shouldn't start with "bowel"?

[Minadin]

If he shot at the police officers, there might be a firefight, more likely a standoff. If he continues to present a hazard to the police outside his home, they might decide to use tear gas or some other form of non-lethal force. Though, police have been known to shoot back when fired upon.

[Oliver]

If he shot at the police officers, there might be a firefight, more likely a standoff. If he continues to present a hazard to the police outside his home, they might decide to use tear gas or some other form of non-lethal force. Though, police have been known to shoot back when fired upon.

No kidding - this sounds to me like a cowboy movie. Don´t
they have an attorney to solve the problems with the court?

Hell, i wouldn´t even think about the issue and let the
lawyer do the bureaucratic and juridical work in the meantime.

[johnny karate]

Just wanted to post a quick hello to all my fellow LC forum refugees who joined the ranks of JREF after me. And to those of you still in the trenches: Keep fighting the good fight!

And I also wanted to give a special shout-out to Oliver for the most excellent badge and soul-stirring commencement speech. As the kids say: You, sir, are da bomb! (At least that's what they were saying the last time I checked in with them, which was 1992.)

[Oliver]

Just wanted to post a quick hello to all my fellow LC forum refugees who joined the ranks of JREF after me. And to those of you still in the trenches: Keep fighting the good fight!

And I also wanted to give a special shout-out to Oliver for the most excellent badge and soul-stirring commencement speech. As the kids say: You, sir, are da bomb! (At least that's what they were saying the last time I checked in with them, which was 1992.)

And You, Sir, are a flatterer. :D So you don´t want to stay for a while?

[The_Fire]

Wait, wait, wait......Are we talking about the same Giuliani whom were mayor in NY during 9/11? The Giuliani which the Toothers claim were in on it? And they actually want to ELECT the guy for PRESIDENT?!


Ok, whom Con-Trailed those morons without NWO permission?

:bwall

[Oliver]

Wait, wait, wait......Are we talking about the same Guiliani whom were mayor in NY during 9/11? The Guiliani which the Toothers claim were in on it? And they actually want to ELECT the guy for PRESIDENT?!


Ok, whom Con-Trailed those morons without NWO permission?

:bwall

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[johnny karate]

So you don´t want to stay for a while?

Oh, I'll be around. You guys are just too much fun.

[Oliver]

Oh, I'll be around. You guys are just too much fun.

Oh, that´s always guaranteed in here. :D Just hit the reply button if your in town again. :)

[GlennB]

Oh, I'll be around. You guys are just too much fun.

You wouldn't fancy revisiting LC under a different ID then?
(hasten to add - that would of course be reprehensible in the extreme, a clear breach of forum etiquette and the guttersnipe behaviour of a pure cad and bounder)

[johnny karate]

Not for the time being. Although, I admit I am tempted, especially when you consider that I am a notorious cad and bounder constantly behaving in a most guttersnipish manner.

But Pupp and Truth_Sword seem to have things well in hand, and I am enjoying the show immensely.

[Coritani]

Not for the time being. Although, I admit I am tempted, especially when you consider that I am a notorious cad and bounder constantly behaving in a most guttersnipish manner.

But Pupp and Truth_Sword seem to have things well in hand, and I am enjoying the show immensely.

Guess who Truth_Sword is.

[tsig]

You wouldn't fancy revisiting LC under a different ID then?
(hasten to add - that would of course be reprehensible in the extreme, a clear breach of forum etiquette and the guttersnipe behaviour of a pure cad and bounder)

And exactly what we black psy-op nijas do.

Beware LCers how can you know who you know.

Anyone of you could be one of us.

[tsig]

You sure the second one shouldn't start with "bowel"?

It's the best thing they will ever produce.

[Rahne Everson]

And exactly what we black psy-op nijas do.

Beware LCers how can you know who you know.

Anyone of you could be one of us.

Do black psy-ops ninjas get a good pension plan?

[tsig]

Do black psy-ops ninjas get a good pension plan?

We never get retireent just different assigments.


if you beleive tahat...

[Coritani]

Is anyone else having problems accessing the LC boards?

It seems I have been banned again.


(I was Truth_sword)

[Rahne Everson]

We never get retireent just different assigments.

if you beleive tahat...Well it sounds like it's got good job security.

Is anyone else having problems accessing the LC boards?

It seems I have been banned again.LC works well enough for me. Another honored soldier falls... will yee rise again?

[Minadin]

You're not showing up as banned, Cori, I just think they're having some issues right now, very very long load times.

[Orphia Nay]

Is anyone else having problems accessing the LC boards?

It seems I have been banned again.


(I was Truth_sword)

I just clicked on a link from Firestone's post above and it told me the board doesn't exist, but using a link in my bookmarks works fine.

You were Truth_sword! You have my sincere respect and admiration. All the posts of yours that I've seen were excellent. Your 2.3 trillion debunking was superlative.

Were you a member at LCF first, or here? I'd love to hear how you found your way into this debunking caper. ;) :)

LOL @ your avatar. Nice one.

[Coritani]

You're not showing up as banned, Cori, I just think they're having some issues right now, very very long load times.

Strange. They're not 'problems', it just says I'm not 'permitted to use this board'.

Maybe they IP banned me without banning the Truth_Sword account. Can you even do that?

I just clicked on a link from Firestone's post above and it told me the board doesn't exist, but using a link in my bookmarks works fine.

You were Truth_sword! You have my sincere respect and admiration. All the posts of yours that I've seen were excellent. Your 2.3 trillion debunking was superlative.

Were you a member at LCF first, or here? I'd love to hear how you found your way into this debunking caper. :wink: :)

LOL @ your avatar. Nice one.

Thanks very much for the compliments.

I first believed in the CT. Then I read Gravy's Loose Change Guide. It changed everything. What struck me most was not the errors in the truth movement, but the flat out lies. I found JREF when I was googling something about WTC 7. I'm happy I did - I like it here.

[~enigma~]

Strange. They're not 'problems', it just says I'm not 'permitted to use this board'.

Maybe they IP banned me without banning the Truth_Sword account. Can you even do that?
Toss your cookies :)

I'm there now but I am not registering for that zoo. They can ban the IP I use if they want put I really don't think they want to ban the entire African continent. If they do...top that Oliver :D

[Minadin]

Yeah, between you and Herminius it has been nice to have some company over there. :(

At least I'm not the only one still posting over there, there's only so much nonsense once can take in one sitting.

[Firestone]

I just clicked on a link from Firestone's post above and it told me the board doesn't exist, but using a link in my bookmarks works fine.My apologies.

I made that post from work (:blush:), and the IP there has been blocked on the LC Forum. So I had to do some copy/paste to get the link without the reference to the Proxy-server I used (because they also blocked the previous Proxy-server I used), and apparently made some mistake. Sorry for that.

The thread I was linking to was this one (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2590).

[Coritani]

Toss your cookies :)

I'm there now but I am not registering for that zoo. They can ban the IP I use if they want put I really don't think they want to ban the entire African continent. If they do...top that Oliver :D

Do I have to remove all my cookies, or just the relevant ones? I deleted all the ones relevant to the LC forum, but I still get the 'Not permitted to use this board'.

On the subject of getting areas banned, I wonder if anyone else in NZ is having problems accessing the forum?

[Orphia Nay]

I'm in Australia, and it's viewable to me. Also, Truth_sword appears in the Members list (whereas Wilma doesn't). I don't know what the problem is, Coritani.
Maybe you've been suspended - at the old forum I was "suspended for 3 months" and I was IP banned for 5 or 6 months till it closed - anyone else got any ideas?

[Firestone]

Do I have to remove all my cookies, or just the relevant ones? I deleted all the ones relevant to the LC forum, but I still get the 'Not permitted to use this board'.

On the subject of getting areas banned, I wonder if anyone else in NZ is having problems accessing the forum?Read you Private Messages (http://forums.randi.org/private.php), Coritani. ;)

[Coritani]

Read you Private Messages (http://forums.randi.org/private.php), Coritani. ;)

Legend.

I'm in Australia, and it's viewable to me. Also, Truth_sword appears in the Members list (whereas Wilma doesn't). I don't know what the problem is, Coritani.
Maybe you've been suspended - at the old forum I was "suspended for 3 months" and I was IP banned for 5 or 6 months till it closed - anyone else got any ideas?I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad. I should be happy because I'm no longer looking at that pure stupidy at the LC forums, but then again the comedy value of the LC forums is huge. Quite the predicament!

Either way, accessing the LC forums isn't a problem anymore thanks to Firestone. Now, back onto the topic of the forums themselves, I'm shocked that the mods are actually condoning flaming in plain site. Normally they show their bias behind the scenes, but I suppose they don't care anymore. Well, at least Quest doesn't.

Edit: Good lord, Christophera is now posting on the "Why Wasnt This Found In Rubble?" thread. Heavens.

[Firestone]

Edit: Good lord, Christophera is now posting on the "Why Wasnt This Found In Rubble?" thread. Heavens.That wil grow into a very loooooooooooooooooooooooong thread ... :)

[jhunter1163]

Jeez... I clicked on the linky Firestone posted and read that whole thread. Thanks for reminding me why I avoid that place. Now I gotta go wash my brain out with soap.

[eddyk]

As for the 'asking questions' or 'pointing fingers' thing goes.

Will LC FC put the blame on the US government, or will he 'just ask questions?'

Surely the term 'Inside Job' implies just that...
So if any of them say that...they're saying it was the government, or some american group anyway.

[Oliver]

As for the 'asking questions' or 'pointing fingers' thing goes.

Will LC FC put the blame on the US government, or will he 'just ask questions?'

Surely the term 'Inside Job' implies just that...
So if any of them say that...they're saying it was the government, or some american group anyway.

They could mention the Southpark episode
to give LC-FC a littlebit of credibility. :boxedin:

[Minadin]

To give you an idea of the kind of logic I'm facing over there, here's a couple of different exchanges:

Lets say - both buildings had just suffered structural failure as the official account states. Now, building 7 is obviously a different design to the twin towers and had different damage, naturally. However, why is WTCs 1 and 2 so drastically different in visual if they both just suffered the same fate : structural failure. This is something that doesnt make sense to me. I would imagine they would look different, yes. But i mean - THAT different?
Actually, yes. The reason that they look so different is because of where the damage was and how the structure failed. WTC 7 looks more like a conventional implosive demolition because of how it failed - it's much more similar to what we're familiar with when we see buildings purposely imploded on TV. The structure failed at the bottom where there was a major load transfer truss between the newer WTC7 structure and the sub-station it was built over. When the support there went, gravity pulled the rest of the building down, from the inside-out. Of course, there are differences: the debris field wasn't nearly as carefully placed as you would like in a demo; also there were no visible or audible explosions from cutting charges.

I say looks like a CD, because that's the only way to describe it in figurative language. We don't have any other similar thing to which to compare it. But it's still just a figure of speech - a comparison - in this case, a simile. It's not literal. For instance, if I was trying to describe a Boeing 757 to you, I might say that it looked like a DC-10. That doesn't mean that I think that it IS a DC-10, I'm just using comparative language that I hope you can relate to to describe it. And, to someone who isn't an expert at identifying different types of planes, that's a pretty valid comparison.

To someone who is an expert, my comparison may seem innacurate because they're aware of the more nuanced differences between the two. I think that's the root of your misunderstanding.
You can honestly look at the collapses of the twin towers and really think that it was a case of floors falling vertically downwards on each other?

Hypothetically, see if the official story said they believed it was explosives... visually would you be convinced?
Or would you maintain your expertise and contend that is was truss sagging and structural failure?

Bolding mine, there. I honestly don't know how you could draw that conclusion from what I wrote. I'm serious. No idea. I was answering that same poster's own question, to boot. Because they asked.

Here's another:

The whole purpose of looking into things - investigating - is to challenge your initial assumptions and attempt to prove them either correct or false. Therefore, it's not uncommon to have to "change the story". In fact, you should do it, if the story is proven false. If we didn't do that, we would still be teaching theories like the flat earth, the 4 elements, and man's inability to fly.
There was nothing to theorize. They'd already seen the exit hole. There was no nosecone sticking out of it.

If you were standing in front of an open door would you theorize that there was a gorilla standing there if there wasn't?
I'm honestly confused by your reply. I don't know what point you are making, or even if you are making one. You are saying that they saw the hole and that there was no nose cone in it? Therefore there was nothing to explain it?

If I saw a hole in the wall of the gorilla pen at the zoo, and I knew that a gorilla had reportedly escaped earlier that day, I might theorize that the hole was made by the gorilla, even though I didn't see him at the hole.
I was going to say you have taken my words out of context, but I realized you've gone way beyond that. I never asked you anything about any hole in the wall of any gorilla pen. You just answered a hypothetical question I never asked. You just created your own hypothetical and answered it as if you were answering my question. How about answering the question I actually DID ask?
Your analogy was not in any way analogous, so I substituted my own, which was more fitting. I'll try to use yours, though.

QUOTE If you were standing in front of an open door would you theorize that there was a gorilla standing there if there wasn't?

I WOULD theorize that, if there was a dead gorilla a few paces away and a bunch of animal control agents running about, and gorilla fist-marks on my door. I would theorize that there HAD been a gorilla at my door.

What would you theorize about the gorilla, or even the pentagon wall?
Had been? Reread the question. You seem to have a hard time comprehending.

Now, I'm not really sure how to respond to this guy or his retarded analogy. I tried correcting it so that it was more relevant to the discussion in the thread, but that didn't work, so now I'm considering trying to 1-up him with irrelevant ones. I'm considereng asking him:

If a giant meteorite made entirely of diamond came crashing to earth and landed on your house, would you theorize there was no such thing as diamond?

If your bowl of vegetable soup got cold, would you theorize that the Yoda wasn't actually a Jedi, even though he was?

But I dunno, I'm kind of having writer's block this morning, not feeling all that ridiculous, so I'm open to suggestions.

[Firestone]

Speaking of logic, I like this one.

In a thread (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2231) about the "power down" of WTC 2:

Wartrac correctly observes:

Has there been more than just Ben Fountain and Scott Forbes that has come foward about the shutdowns? I keep hearing these names over and over. With the population of people working in the towers you would think there would be more people saying this.

and gets this "logical" answer from westprog (surely not the westprog of this forum):

I think that PROOVES a conspiracy, if not why not more people talking about it?:jaw-dropp

[Oliver]

Speaking of logic, I like this one.

In a thread (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2231) about the "power down" of WTC 2:

Wartrac correctly observes:



and gets this "logical" answer from westprog (surely not the westprog of this forum):

:jaw-dropp

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107451da7e781cb2.gif There. Is. No. Hope. http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/111074527eb7759e48.gif

[Firestone]

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107451da7e781cb2.gif There. Is. No. Hope. http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/111074527eb7759e48.gifRelax, Oliver.

Watch a video of mud-wrestling match between Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp, or something ... ;)

[HyJinX]

:popcorn1

[Oliver]

Relax, Oliver.

Watch a video of mud-wrestling match between Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp, or something ... ;)

There must have been a reason for god to create women...
...to torture us innocent, hairy, beings... :p

[tsig]

There must have been a reason for god to create women...
...to torture us innocent, hairy, beings... :p

None are innocent none are guilty.

[Oliver]

None are innocent none are guilty.

I completely agree as long i´m not kidding. :)

[tsig]

I completely agree as long i´m not kidding. :)

If I knew what you were saying I might agree with it.

[Oliver]

If I knew what you were saying I might agree with it.

If i would know the reason for your initial response, we both
would be much wiser now. ;)

[Minadin]

Wow, I just got banned at LC boards, and I was doing my best to be both extremely civil and back up all of my posts with facts. I was told that as long as I followed the rules over there I would be ok. No explaination given at all, either.

[Calcas]

Wow, I just got banned at LC boards, and I was doing my best to be both extremely civil and back up all of my posts with facts. I was told that as long as I followed the rules over there I would be ok. No explaination given at all, either.

They're paranoid little cowards. When faced with facts, they run.

I sent you a PM.

[Oliver]

Wow, I just got banned at LC boards, and I was doing my best to be both extremely civil and back up all of my posts with facts. I was told that as long as I followed the rules over there I would be ok. No explaination given at all, either.

What was your last message over there?

[Calcas]

What was your last message over there?

I think they went on a hunting spree today and eliminated all skeptics (again.)

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