Sounds Within The WTC's

[The Doc]

We are familiar with many claims of people reporting noises that sounded "like explosions" and similar. I just managed to find this and found it incredibly interesting.

Unbeknownst to rescuers, when the hoist and governor cables of one of the elevators had been severed, ropes to other cars had been weakened. Nevertheless, the elevators had to be used to transport those severely injured, including Betty Lou Oliver. As the plane hit, Oliver, an elevator operator, was blown out of her post on the 80th floor and badly burned. After receiving first aid, she was put in another car to go down to an ambulance. As the elevator doors closed, rescue workers heard what sounded like a gunshot but what was, in fact, the snapping of elevator cables weakened by the crash. The car with Oliver inside, now at the 75th floor, plunged to the sub-basement, a fall of over 1,000 feet. Rescuers had to cut a hole in the car to get to the badly injured elevator operator.

http://www.esbnyc.com/tourism/tourism_facts_esbnews_mar1996.cfm?CFID=14220&CFTOKEN=1408
That quote is regarding the 1945 crash of a B25 into the Empire State Building.

So I pose a question to everyone who believes that noises inside the WTC's were explosive devices.

Does this mean that there were explosive charges going off inside the Empire State Building?

[JAStewart]

Great find!

Many many things would be happening inside the towers such as small explosions from the kitchens and maybe some computers frazzling. It could have easily been mistaken for a 'bomb'.

[Zep]

Any commercial plastic bottles of water or carbonated drinks, when heated sufficiently, will explode with a noise like a small hand-grenade. Ditto, I expect for drinks in aluminium cans (inside vending machines?).

[The Doc]

Exactly :)

Even the CPU of a computer explodes under heat. Obviously not as loud as a shape charge - but it is a non-ordinance explosion none the less. Imagine what else could have been going off.

Think about it this way - we know that elevator cables snapping are comparable to gunshots. So what would bolts snapping and elevators falling sound like (inevitable if the cables snapped)? One hell of a lot louder.

[MikeW]

That quote is regarding the 1945 crash of a B25 into the Empire State Building.
Let me truthify that for you:
As the elevator doors closed, rescue workers heard... a gunshot...
http://www.esbnyc.com/tourism/tourism_facts_esbnews_mar1996.cfm?CFID=14220&CFTOKEN=1408
There, much more convincing.

[The Doc]

Let me truthify that for you:

There, much more convincing.

OMFG THE US GOVERNMENT FLEW MILITARY PLANE INTO EMPIRE STATE BUILDING AND SHOT PEOPLE WTF! :p Heh.

[maccy]

OMFG THE US GOVERNMENT FLEW MILITARY PLANE INTO EMPIRE STATE BUILDING AND SHOT PEOPLE WTF! :p Heh.

They were trying to mask the fact that other planes were shooting the giant gorilla.

[T.A.M.]

Things that EXPLODE with heat.
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Cans/Bottles of Carbonated Drinks
Oxygen Cannisters
Nitrous Oxide Cannisters
Electrical Transformers
Aeresol Cans (Cleaners, Sprays, etc...)
Airplanes crashing into building

Things that could be mistaken for Explosions:
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Heavy metal falling/hitting off each other.
Walls collapsing
Floors Collapsing
Elevator wire snapping.
Elevators hitting ground after falling.
Windows blowing out (their "squibs") from compressed air.

I am sure this list could become quite extensive.

TAM

[The_Fire]

Not a bad start, Tam. I think you can expand that list safely with:

- Monitors of any kind (Tv and Computers, the later of which there were many in the WTC)
- Any kind of canisters under pressure including Fire extinguishers.
- Concrete craking/exploding due to fire/hear and/or pressure.

[Crungy]

Equipment components of a pressurized hydraulic system have a long history of making huge Kapows (think old Batman TV series) in stressed conditions. Boilers, Chillers and their associated pumps. You'd be surprised at how much damage these items can create. I've seen a few cases where equipment pieces have been blasted more then a mile away. Some other items, which may or may not have been in the WTC towers;

DC battery plants.
Diesel fuel day tanks for the emergency generator systems.
Equipment serviced by natural gas.

[MikeW]

If anyone's not heard it already, listen to the sound of metal failing in a crane at http://www.911myths.com/html/proving_controlled_demolition.html . That was described as explosions and "like bombs going off" at the time, and you'd have to agree, it does sound just like that.

[defaultdotxbe]

any computer will have dozens of capacitors that can easily explode

any office will also have UPS batteries (a 1-2 workstation UPS is essentially a 50 pound lead-acid battery) offices with a server clusters will have exceptionally large batteries (server PSUs will have larger capacitors)

in-line surge suppressors and UPS can also explode with a good deal of force

[The Doc]

Very Nice Mike :)

But I would have to argue that the crane was brought down using bombs to cover up 9/11. Just use some common sense. Cranes can't fall down outside Controlled Demolition. Duh..

:p

[WildCat]

The NWO has been quite busy this weekend blowing up other buildings around the world.

In the UK (http://www.dewsburytoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=28&ArticleID=1957654):
He said: “It was quite a big fire and it was quite noisy because there were a lot of minor explosions going off.

In Pittsburgh (http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/article.jsp?sectionId=46&id=52797):
"We started beating on a few doors," she said. "Then I heard two or three explosions and I grabbed my sons and started running down the street. We don't have nothing, but I'm thankful for what I got."

In Vermont (http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070106/NEWS/701060325/1002/NEWS01):
The fire created a glow visible from the highway and triggered several explosions.

In Christchurch, NZ (http://www.firefightingnews.com/article-NZ.cfm?articleID=23781):
Freelance photographer Shannon Sword said: "I heard about five or six explosions.

Just a small smattering, our agents and shills have been very busy the last few days!

[Woody-]

My favorite is this one.

The blaze was still raging out of control in the early hours of Sunday, having breached a fire wall on the 17th floor and reached almost to street level. Explosions could be heard within the building and authorities cordoned off a zone some 500 metres in diameter in case it should collapse.

http://newsfromrussia.com/accidents/2005/02/13/58231.html

Its a report on the Windsor building in Madrid that the truthers like to reference so often.

[stateofgrace]

Although nothing to do with buildings and fires, taken out of context these quotes could easily be describing explosions.

I thought maybe a tanker had exploded or a plane had crashed.


Sounded like an explosion outside.


Heard loud explosion/thunder


I heard a loud explosion


sounded like an underground explosion


it must of been an explosion

They are actually describing an earthquake.

http://www.okgeosurvey1.gov/atoka.html

[Oliver]

Although nothing to do with buildings and fires, taken out of context these quotes could easily be describing explosions.

They are actually describing an earthquake.

http://www.okgeosurvey1.gov/atoka.html

A controlled "HAARP" earthquake, of course... :rolleyes:

[28th Kingdom]

We are familiar with many claims of people reporting noises that sounded "like explosions" and similar. I just managed to find this and found it incredibly interesting.

That quote is regarding the 1945 crash of a B25 into the Empire State Building.

So I pose a question to everyone who believes that noises inside the WTC's were explosive devices.

Does this mean that there were explosive charges going off inside the Empire State Building?

Wowy Wowy wow wow. Arguing for your own misery... yer really taking this whole fanatical debunking thing, to a new extreme.

[The_Fire]

Wowy Wowy wow wow. Arguing for your own misery... yer really taking this whole fanatical debunking thing, to a new extreme.

No. Just applying the same logic to the Empire State Building as Toothers seem to apply to the WTC.......

[Oliver]

Wowy Wowy wow wow. Arguing for your own misery... yer really taking this whole fanatical debunking thing, to a new extreme.

What is your point, 28th? I live in germany and >WAS< thinking
that this controlled demolition stupidity may be true...

What do you wanna know? :confused:

[Pardalis]

The NWO has been quite busy this weekend blowing up other buildings around the world.

In the UK (http://www.dewsburytoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=28&ArticleID=1957654):


In Pittsburgh (http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/article.jsp?sectionId=46&id=52797):


In Vermont (http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070106/NEWS/701060325/1002/NEWS01):


In Christchurch, NZ (http://www.firefightingnews.com/article-NZ.cfm?articleID=23781):


Just a small smattering, our agents and shills have been very busy the last few days!

In Laval (http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060930/overpass_collapse_060930?s_name=&no_ads=)
he heard a loud bang that sounded "like the explosion of a 50-kilogram bomb."

[LashL]

In Laval (http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060930/overpass_collapse_060930?s_name=&no_ads=)

And in Vallejo (http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/state/16404294.htm), too

Altagracia Gonzalez and her son were inside with the three visiting relatives when the group heard an explosion outside. When relative Victor Haynes ran outside to see what had happened, he saw flames and got everyone out of the house.

[The Doc]

Wowy Wowy wow wow. Arguing for your own misery... yer really taking this whole fanatical debunking thing, to a new extreme.

Thank you for highlighting your own inability to understand the situation. I'll make it slightly simpler:

If sounds reported to sound "like gunshots" in the WTC were explosive devices, does this mean that the sounds reported as "like gunshots" in the Empire State Building were explosive devices?

In closing, I suggest the next time that you feel an urge to embarrass yourself and bore others, that you summon all your might, and resist.

[uruk]

I think there was a thread somewheres here concerning William Rodriguez's Testimony concerning the sounds he heard in the WTC basement on 9/11.

Sound travels faster through solid objects than air.
The caculation of the speed of sound through steel compared to air showed that the sound of the aircraft hitting the building would arrive at the basement via the steel at almost second and a half before the sound would arrive by air.
This coincides with Rodriguez's testimony.

[LashL]

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