NG - "Is it Real? - Vampires" Tape Needed

[Miss Whiplash]

Does anyone have a tape of the National Geographic series Is It Real? -Vampires. This episode featured the interview with Sean Manchester. If you have a copy you can part with, I'll pay you for the tape and postage.

Thanks!

[Overman]

:frankenst

[Miss Whiplash]

A transcript will do as well. It's for my on-going battle with the "bishop" and my article. I would have taped it myself, but I sent my last VHS tape to Lisa Simpson. It's her fault. :D

[The_Fire]

If no one else gets it before me, I'll se what I can do.
They are currently running "Is it Real" on the local National Geographic channel. Might take a while until they get around to that episode though. And it will have to be on a home burned DVD (which can go into either computer or television) if that's ok?
Do you, or anyone else, have a link for an episode guide? That way I can try to predict when it gets shown around here.......

BTW: It's a real treat for Randi fans anyhow :D.

[CFLarsen]

I'll tape it, when it gets around here (DK), too.

[drapier]

Check ITunes. You may be able to download the whole program. The last I checked, I think the Vampire episode was available. It costs about $2.00 to buy a copy via ITunes.

Drapier

[Zygar]

It sounds like you'll get a copy soon. The NG channel ran a marathon of Is It Real? a few weeks back. Very cool stuff.

I think the Vampire episode was my favorite. Between the insanity of Sean Manchester, and the people on the show who drink blood regularly, it was quite the laughfest. Utterly hilarious.

[Miss Whiplash]

Thanks everyone! :) Just send me a PM . The Sean Manchester meltdown was the second most popular article on my website.

[Skeptic Guy]

It sounds like you'll get a copy soon. The NG channel ran a marathon of Is It Real? a few weeks back. Very cool stuff.

I think the Vampire episode was my favorite. Between the insanity of Sean Manchester, and the people on the show who drink blood regularly, it was quite the laughfest. Utterly hilarious.

:jaw-dropp

[The_Fire]

:jaw-dropp

What? You didn't know about the Vampire subculture? You need to spend some more time on the alternative religion/culture part of the web. They exist.

[Lisa Simpson]

It is available on iTunes, for $1.99

[Psi Baba]

Unfortunately, that's probably the only episode I haven't seen yet. I love that series. It's probably best series of skeptical documentaries out there (not that there are many to compare it to, sadly). The dumb thing is, it tends to show up in channel info listings by the episode title rather than the series title, so unless you look carefully, you can easily miss that it's an installment of IIR?.

[Skeptic Guy]

What? You didn't know about the Vampire subculture? You need to spend some more time on the alternative religion/culture part of the web. They exist.

Well, I did hear that there were those who thought of themselves as a vampire, but really didn't think they actually drank blood.

Can you get AIDS from drinking blood? Or only from an open wound, such as a bitten tongue or cold sore...or something...

Ze' world is filled with ze wackiest peoples...

[Skeptic Guy]

What? You didn't know about the Vampire subculture? You need to spend some more time on the alternative religion/culture part of the web. They exist.

It is available on iTunes, for $1.99

A bargain! I think I'll buy it when I get home. I love iTunes and my iPod...

[Lisa Simpson]

Digging through my video vault, I have a copy of it, although the sound quality is a little iffy. If you don't already have a copy lined up, PM me with your email addy and I will send it to you via yousendit.

[The_Fire]

Well, I did hear that there were those who thought of themselves as a vampire, but really didn't think they actually drank blood.



It's a really small subculture of the goth culture, but yes. Basically the idea is that when you share blood, you share life force. Some even goes as far as saying it makes them high and that they are dependent/addicted to it. I cry "Placebo effect", but hey....


Can you get AIDS from drinking blood? Or only from an open wound, such as a bitten tongue or cold sore...or something...


There is a theoretical chance of catching something nasty like HIV (You cannot call it AIDS until it goes into full blown attack mode and wrecks your immune system) or Hepatitis through blood sharing, which is why most "vamps" in the more experienced circles only share blood between people they trust. They have fixed partnerships in this regard. I don't know how widespread the health check is in these groups (I'm not part of a bloodletting coven nor do I ever intend to become a member of one. Its just to weird for me).
From what I understand, they cut each other and drink from the open wound. Not much, though. And most bugs don't survive the meeting with the enzymes in the saliva. But there IS always the off chance that a bug survives.


Ze' world is filled with ze wackiest peoples...

Amen.

[CFLarsen]

Digging through my video vault

I want a list of what that contains published.

I'm working on my own.

Hint, hint.

[Lisa Simpson]

My library contains a lot of Sylvia on Montel, plus some other random stuff I've collected. Ooh...I've got a NG "Is It Real" episode about Ghosts - Mr. Randi is in it.

If you want either, let me know.

[Skeptic Guy]

It's a really small subculture of the goth culture, but yes. Basically the idea is that when you share blood, you share life force. Some even goes as far as saying it makes them high and that they are dependent/addicted to it. I cry "Placebo effect", but hey....



There is a theoretical chance of catching something nasty like HIV (You cannot call it AIDS until it goes into full blown attack mode and wrecks your immune system) or Hepatitis through blood sharing, which is why most "vamps" in the more experienced circles only share blood between people they trust. They have fixed partnerships in this regard. I don't know how widespread the health check is in these groups (I'm not part of a bloodletting coven nor do I ever intend to become a member of one. Its just to weird for me).
From what I understand, they cut each other and drink from the open wound. Not much, though. And most bugs don't survive the meeting with the enzymes in the saliva. But there IS always the off chance that a bug survives.



Amen.

Yep, knew that about the HIV / AIDS difference, just got careless...but thanks.

Weird ain't in it, friend.

I'm going to go have a beer.

[ChristineR]

The vampire blood drinkers I've known considered it equivalent to unprotected sex. Just as you may choose to have unprotected sex with someone who you know well and you've checked out, you may choose to drink his or her blood.

No, and I didn't have sex with any of them either.:eek:

[CLD]

What about drinking your own blood? After I had a tooth removed, I was treated to a slow drip for several hours. Very tasty, but I did not feel high, or that I was becoming addicted or growing fangs.

[Skeptic Guy]

What about drinking your own blood? After I had a tooth removed, I was treated to a slow drip for several hours. Very tasty, but I did not feel high, or that I was becoming addicted or growing fangs.

Good point, a little blood never hurts. As long as you don't become a member of the undead. Has everyone done a study on "Vampires" and what makes them tick? It would be an interesting read.

Ever bite off a hang-nail and swallow it? Does that make you a cannibal?

[Zygar]

I don't think it counts if you consume yourself.

[ChristineR]

I have it from a Jewish friend that drinking your own blood is not kosher. Remember that next time you get oral surgery.

[CLD]

What about saliva and other, er, bodily fluids? Is one doomed to join the legions of undead after ingesting these?

[Verde]

My library contains a lot of Sylvia on Montel

Yetch! That image has completely spoiled my supper.

If you want either, let me know.

No, thanks.

[Skeptic Guy]

What about saliva and other, er, bodily fluids? Is one doomed to join the legions of undead after ingesting these?

I think that is what the clergy would have you think...

[CLD]

Why isn't there a werewolf culture? It has all the glamour of vampirism (full moon stalking, killing humans, eternal life, etc.) and none of the risk.

[Miss Whiplash]

There is one. There is a loup garou sub-culture among the goths of New Orleans. It's based on the movies Underworld and the rpg Vampire the Masquerade. Watch the extra freatures from Underworld and you will see them. Not as fashionable as the vamp subculture, but it gives those with more bulk and need of a body waxing a chance to show off.

BTW- Werewolves aren't immortal. Other than the shape shifting, the rest of the myth came from Hollywood writers via the movie The Wolf Man.

[Skeptic Guy]

I think it would be hard to continue the fantasy when you don't change into a wolf at the full moon. I'd think it would take a hell of a lot of rationalization when you didn't grow hair, fangs, and claws.

[Seismosaurus]

One of best friends is a vampire. She believes that if she doesn't drink blood regularly, she gets weak and sick. I tried to gently suggest that this wasn't actually true, but... well, it's not easy.

I'm even considering being a donor for her, actually.

[Big Les]

There is one. There is a loup garou sub-culture among the goths of New Orleans. It's based on the movies Underworld and the rpg Vampire the Masquerade. Watch the extra freatures from Underworld and you will see them. Not as fashionable as the vamp subculture, but it gives those with more bulk and need of a body waxing a chance to show off.

BTW- Werewolves aren't immortal. Other than the shape shifting, the rest of the myth came from Hollywood writers via the movie The Wolf Man.

So there's no folklore precedent for needing silver to kill 'em?

[Cuddles]

What about drinking your own blood? After I had a tooth removed, I was treated to a slow drip for several hours. Very tasty, but I did not feel high, or that I was becoming addicted or growing fangs.

There's always the risk you might catch HIV or hepatitis off yourself.

[Lisa Simpson]

One of best friends is a vampire. She believes that if she doesn't drink blood regularly, she gets weak and sick. I tried to gently suggest that this wasn't actually true, but... well, it's not easy.

I'm even considering being a donor for her, actually.


If she's pre-menopausal, she's probably anemic. Tell her to try an iron supplement.

My brother-in-law once met a woman who was a self-proclaimed "psychic vampire" - she says she drained people of their psychic vibrations.

[Miss Whiplash]

If she's pre-menopausal, she's probably anemic. Tell her to try an iron supplement.

My brother-in-law once met a woman who was a self-proclaimed "psychic vampire" - she says she drained people of their psychic vibrations.

I once worked for a whole group of people like that. They were called the "North Carolina General Assembly." ;)

[Skeptic Guy]

One of best friends is a vampire. She believes that if she doesn't drink blood regularly, she gets weak and sick. I tried to gently suggest that this wasn't actually true, but... well, it's not easy.

I'm even considering being a donor for her, actually.

If she's pre-menopausal, she's probably anemic. Tell her to try an iron supplement.

My brother-in-law once met a woman who was a self-proclaimed "psychic vampire" - she says she drained people of their psychic vibrations.

I ask only because I don't know, but wouldn't you be feeding into their delusions (pardon the pun) by being a donor?

[Lisa Simpson]

I ask only because I don't know, but wouldn't you be feeding into their delusions (pardon the pun) by being a donor?

By being a donor, yes, but not by convincing her to try iron supplements. Actually, the best thing might be to convince her to go to a doctor and see if she's anemic (but it would have to be when she was feeling low).

[Skeptic Guy]

That's what I meant, being a donor. The iron supplement is a legitimate therapy. The doctor is even better.

[RSLancastr]

The vampire blood drinkers I've known...You know, this is a phrase I don't think I've ever used.

[Seismosaurus]

If she's pre-menopausal, she's probably anemic. Tell her to try an iron supplement.

My brother-in-law once met a woman who was a self-proclaimed "psychic vampire" - she says she drained people of their psychic vibrations.

My friend thinks she can do that too. It's not as good as blood, apparently. I told her she can drain me of psychic energy every moment we're together if she likes.

I don't think she's anemic. If she is, this "treatment" certainly isn't going to help much - she takes a tablespoon a week.


I ask only because I don't know, but wouldn't you be feeding into their delusions (pardon the pun) by being a donor?

Possibly. So what? If you go to church for your friend's wedding, you're supporting his delusions. If you sit quietly during grace at your parent's house, you're supporting their delusions.

I tried to gently explain to her that she's can't really be feeding off blood; she got annoyed about it and assumed I was calling her crazy. She's heard the arguments before, she knows perfectly well what most people think of it. But she believes that she needs this, and she believes that she gets ill without it.

I made a judgment call; she "needs" this so badly that in the past, she has been driven to do questionable things to get it. Some donors ask things in return... and not necessarily money. With me as a donor she'll have a supply from somebody she can trust, and who won't expect anything in return.