We are all aliens. Apparently.

[brettDbass]

Was tempted to put this into the Science forum, until I realised that it contains absolutely no science whatsoever.

Scientists find Extraterrestrial genes in Human DNA (http://www.remoteviewer.nu/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3391)
A group of researchers working at the Human Genome Project indicate that they made an astonishing scientific discovery: They believe so-called 97% non-coding sequences in human DNA is no less than genetic code of extraterrestrial life forms.


Oh . . . . . . . dear.

[vbloke]

rubbish!
there is only one creator
and we all know who that is (http://www.be-spoke.com/TiP/index.html)

[Cuddles]

I'm confused. Is this a joke or not? The website seems to be serious, but I really can't see how someone capable of writing coherently could actually believe any of this.

[simonmaal]

I think when we look at the site as a whole (e.g. subjects such as neural time travel and telepathy), we can see it for what it is: total crap. I'm reminded of the hilariously tragic pseudo-science of "Doctor" Emoto's water crystals experiments:

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm

Truly awful.

[brettDbass]

I'm confused. Is this a joke or not? The website seems to be serious, but I really can't see how someone capable of writing coherently could actually believe any of this.

As far as I can tell, they've copy/pasted the story, although in all the copies I can find of the article on the web, none of them cite their source.

[Ersby]

Well, we are all aliens to somebody.

[brettDbass]

Well, we are all aliens to somebody.

If we're talking intelligent Extra-Terrestrial aliens here (which we are), then you must have some pretty extraordinary evidence that they exist, yes?

[Ersby]

No.

I think the odds are that they do. And to them, we would be aliens.

Tiny joke, yes?

[MRC_Hans]

Whatever it is, it doesn't compute. How can anybody take a piece of DNA sequence and say, "This is ET DNA"? Which ET have they DNA sequenced for reference?

Hans

[brettDbass]

No.

I think the odds are that they do. And to them, we would be aliens.

Tiny joke, yes?
I see where you're coming from now, but I don't think that was at all clear in your original post.

Plus, what Hans said.

[NobbyNobbs]

According to the article, all life on this planet is part of some vast experiment being conducted by aliens. I think someone has been up late reading Douglas Adams.

In case they are reading this and wondering, the answer is 42.

[This Guy]

Sounds shaky, at best, to me.

Here's an older version of the story. Not sure what the year is, but it's from June 03. -

http://www.book-of-thoth.com/article-print-1238.html

This is another version. I think they say about the same thing. -

http://raysender.com/junk%20DNA.html

From the link in the OP -

"The most famous exponents of the ancient astronaut intervention are the Swiss writer Erich von Daniken and the American writer Zecharia Sitchin. The latter, in particular, has argued the case in great detail."

(My bolding)

Isn't this the Chariots of the Gods guy?

Anyway, sounds like fantasy land to me. A lot of talk about reading the junk DNA as a program with commented out code. I'm no biologist, but sounds pretty wooy to me.

And this Prof. Sam Chang, I can't seem to find anything about him that isn't related to this story, and on a woo site, unless he's a rather young man at Cal Tech, or a medical Dr. at Vanderbuilt in Nashville.

[SweatyYeti]

Here's a clue.......
Professor Chang and his research colleagues show that apparent “extraterrestrial programming” gaps in DNA sequencing precipitated by a hypothesized rush to create human life on Earth presented humankind with illogical growth of mass of cells we know as cancer."

I wonder how they figured the aliens were in a rush?? :boggled:

[brettDbass]

Here's a clue.......

I wonder how they figured the aliens were in a rush?? :boggled:

Probably because they made such a shoddy job on this batch of life.

[Loss Leader]

And this Prof. Sam Chang, I can't seem to find anything about him that isn't related to this story, and on a woo site, unless he's a rather young man at Cal Tech, or a medical Dr. at Vanderbuilt in Nashville.

Ditto.

I found many reprints of this story on the web but none of them were dated, cited a source or even named an author. Most of the examples I found were published in May of 2005. If there was supposed to be an announcement "soon," that "soon" came and went years ago.

Not surprisingly, the website for the Human Genome Project returns no results for a search of "extraterrestrial" or a single person named Sam Chang. They do list the discovery of large amounts of DNA that do not encode protein (so-called junk DNA) as one of their acheivements.

There's no question in my mind the article is entirely fictional.

[Wudang]

Here's a clue.......

I wonder how they figured the aliens were in a rush?? :boggled:
Because their alien boss sat on the project requirements until 1 week before the deadline. When was a techie ever not in a rush? Just one more touch of plausibility to the story.

[desertyeti]

Egad! The Scientologists are right! Damn intergallactic warlords, dumping their DNA all over our planet!:mad:

[This Guy]

Because their alien boss sat on the project requirements until 1 week before the deadline. When was a techie ever not in a rush? Just one more touch of plausibility to the story.

"Remember that deadline? We have to cut a week off. Oh yea, and here are some new specs that have to be added!"

hehe yea SOS, different galaxy ;)

[desertyeti]

"Remember that deadline? We have to cut a week off. Oh yea, and here are some new specs that have to be added!"

hehe yea SOS, different galaxy ;)

By the way, we're running over-budget, so we'll all have to tighten our belts and give 110%.

[tkingdoll]

I for one welcome our new human overlords.

[Nihilanth]

I wonder how they figured the aliens were in a rush?? :boggled:

HA!

"Hey, Phil! Drop what you're doing!"
"Hank...I'm creating a lifeform here. It's a delicate process. I can't just rush through it because you said so."
"TGI Fridays brought back the cheese fries platter."
"SCORE!" *Balls up DNA and throws it into Animal-o-matic.* "Psh, good enough. Let's roll!"

Now I hate aliens more than ever.

[Starthinker]

I'm glad they didn't check my DNA for so many reasons.

[Timble]

The non-coding ET DNA actually reads "Copyright: Black Monolith Inc; 1,000,000 BCE"

[AcuteEnigma2]

Hi, new here. Perfect story for TAM's focus on skepticism and the media!

I'm hoping for some help here. I need to stay, uh, on friendly and polite terms with someone who believes this "news" article.

Do you have any advice for gently leading them towards the light?

How do you handle gently helping people see through these hoaxes that they so DESPERATELY need to believe?

Thanks!
Julie

[aries]

Some scientists actually believe (based upon certain evidence) that life on earthactually somehow arose from molecules which beamed (no, silly ;) ) --- ehe - which had been transported by storms and suchs, possibky from comets roaming earths atmosphere.

The molecules somehow then got down into the boiling sea of earth a very, very very long time ago... and then, this helped further the developments of
evolution.

I can't find a link --- sorry ---

[I less than three logic]

Because their alien boss sat on the project requirements until 1 week before the deadline. When was a techie ever not in a rush? Just one more touch of plausibility to the story.
Must use the same poster (http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/posters/32cc/) as I do in my work area. :)