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zakur
2nd July 2003, 03:45 PM
Faithful try TiVo, ATMs for religious shortcuts (http://www.news-leader.com/today/0628-Faithfultr-92168.html)

When the sun goes down at Hudi Schiffer's house tonight, his lights will all blink on without even a flip of a switch — a neat trick because as an Orthodox Jew, Schiffer's not allowed to turn on electricity during the Sabbath. But thanks to a new $2,000 system the 29-year-old installed, he can follow the letter of the law and not leave his bulbs burning all weekend.

Here's some news for people who find worshipping a tad taxing: It's getting easier. A small but growing number of the nation's faithful are trying church-lobby ATMs, e-mail sermons and some other pretty neat high-tech solutions to obey religious protocol (TiVo, anyone?). One online outfit, PalTalk, says group prayers on its videoconferences have tripled since 2000, while the Hartford Institute for Religion Research says the percentage of churches with Web sites has risen to 55 percent from 18 percent in five years. A recent addition: streaming-video services, just right for pajama-clad parishioners to watch their own pastor preach live.Most of this sounds pretty cool, and natural extensions of technology into religious practices. But ATMs in church lobbies? Something about that just doesn't seem right to me.

scribble
2nd July 2003, 03:52 PM
Didn't Jesus himself throw a hissyfit over similar?

EdipisReks
2nd July 2003, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by scribble
Didn't Jesus himself throw a hissyfit over similar?

ATM's in the lobby isn't quite the same as money changers in the temples :)

Nyarlathotep
2nd July 2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by EdipisReks


ATM's in the lobby isn't quite the same as money changers in the temples :)

How is it different? The money changers offered a service for a fee, an ATM offers a service for a fee. The services are similar and the reasons are similar. I don't really see any significant difference at all.

scribble
2nd July 2003, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Nyarlathotep


How is it different? The money changers offered a service for a fee, an ATM offers a service for a fee. The services are similar and the reasons are similar. I don't really see any significant difference at all.

I didn't think I'd have to spell it out, thanks, Nyar.

-Chris

EdipisReks
2nd July 2003, 06:00 PM
jesus, i thought people understood what emoticons meant. next time i'll say [PUBLIC SERVICE ANOUNCEMENT: THIS IS A LITTLE JOKE WHICH I WOULD NORMALLY HAVE PUT A SMILEY BEHIND, BUT SOME PEOPLE CAN'T HANDLE THAT SO I HAVE TO BE OBNOXIOUS] at the end.

scribble
2nd July 2003, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by EdipisReks
jesus, i thought people understood what emoticons meant. next time i'll say [PUBLIC SERVICE ANOUNCEMENT: THIS IS A LITTLE JOKE WHICH I WOULD NORMALLY HAVE PUT A SMILEY BEHIND, BUT SOME PEOPLE CAN'T HANDLE THAT SO I HAVE TO BE OBNOXIOUS] at the end.

Well, you got me. I'm the dumb one here. I always thought smileys meant happiness. Never knew they meant you were making a joke. I guess I'll have to stop using them in other contexts now. Thank you for correcting me.

-Chris

evildave
3rd July 2003, 12:15 AM
You always have to love using that "growth" metric for popularity.

"Use tripled!" (From one to three users.)

I don't see why ATMs can't be in churches.

They're in liquor stores and casinos, after all.

EdipisReks
3rd July 2003, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by scribble


Well, you got me. I'm the dumb one here. I always thought smileys meant happiness. Never knew they meant you were making a joke. I guess I'll have to stop using them in other contexts now. Thank you for correcting me.

-Chris

smileys have always had 2 meanings. one was happiness, the other was as the indicator that something was to be taken with levity in mind. let me be the first to welcome you to the internet. it's a weird place, but almost worth visiting.

Yahweh
3rd July 2003, 06:31 AM
ATMs in churches... group prayer videoconferences... when computers become sentient, they will be disgusted by way the Churches exploited them.