Flexibility of the self is REAL power

[coberst]

Flexibility of the self is REAL power

Those people are STRONG who can withdraw a pseudopod at will from trifles as well as from important matters. The individuals who are strong enough to control the ego rather than the ego being in control is indeed “master of their domain”.

One of life’s more urgent and difficult problems is learning to set the boundaries of the ego. Such control represents true maturity of character and personality.

The “self” is in the body but is not part of the body; it is symbolic and is not physical. The human can be symbolically located wherever s/he thinks part of her really exists or belongs. The more insecure we are the more important these symbolic extensions of the self become. In conceiving our self as a container that overflows with various and important extensions that our technology provides us we might appear like a giant amoeba spread out over the land with a center in the self.

Because the child has no such control and is almost always identified through the parent, the child reflects the parent’s point of view. The child is the parent before s/he is his or her self; psychoanalysis’ call this “repression”. “This simplified discussion of the ego and its boundaries take us right into the heart of psychoanalytic theory, and to one of its true and lasting discoveries: the famous “mechanisms of defense”.

These mechanisms describe how the child stakes out the extensions of the self. “Introjection” is the taking the parts of one person into the image of the self. “Projection” is the placing of the child’s desires and thoughts into others. “Each of us is in some ways a grotesque collage, a composite of injected and ejected parts over which we have no honest control…Little wonder that we spend our lives searching in mirrors to find out who we “really” are.”

Ideas and quotes from “The Birth and Death of Meaning”—Ernest Becker

[Darat]

coberst this is a discussion forum, not a place for you to post what seem to amount to a continuous stream of personal sermons.

Since you joined the Forum you have created a total of 108 threads and only posted additionally 288 times.

Whilst we do allow a huge amount of latitude so that people can pontificate on matters and issues that interest them your behaviour is verging on being a rather slow but steady spamming of the Forum with no intent to enter into meaningful discussion. And spamming is against the Forum rules.

[Tricky]

coberst this is a discussion forum, not a place for you to post what seem to amount to a continuous stream of personal sermons.

Since you joined the Forum you have created a total of 108 threads and only posted additionally 288 times.

Whilst we do allow a huge amount of latitude so that people can pontificate on matters and issues that interest them your behaviour is verging on being a rather slow but steady spamming of the Forum with no intent to enter into meaningful discussion. And spamming is against the Forum rules.

Thank you Darat. While it is easy and advisible to simply skip any thread started by coberst, it is annoying that more interesting threads (which means "all other threads") get pushed off page one because of them. This is not your blog, coberst. Go get yourself one.

[Dancing David]

coberst this is a discussion forum, not a place for you to post what seem to amount to a continuous stream of personal sermons.

Since you joined the Forum you have created a total of 108 threads and only posted additionally 288 times.

Whilst we do allow a huge amount of latitude so that people can pontificate on matters and issues that interest them your behaviour is verging on being a rather slow but steady spamming of the Forum with no intent to enter into meaningful discussion. And spamming is against the Forum rules.



He posts the same material on numerous forums, is that spamming?

http://forums.hypography.com/philosophy-humanities/9888-consciousness-social-experience.html

http://www.ephilosopher.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB_14&file=index&action=viewtopic&topic=6505&start=0

http://www.able2know.com/forums/about89971.html

http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/showthread.php?p=515499

http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=86874

http://www.sciencechatforum.com/bulletin/viewtopic.php?p=35872&sid=a09fdcfa629b10acc685293c8ce898bd

[Dancing David]

Flexibility of the self is REAL power

Those people are STRONG who can withdraw a pseudopod at will from trifles as well as from important matters. The individuals who are strong enough to control the ego rather than the ego being in control is indeed “master of their domain”.

Duh! This is the wisdom of the ages Coberst. How old did you be before you figured it out. You have in fact found a rather poorly stated versions of it, have you read the Dao de Zhing? You should at least find a better source than this psychoanalytic crud.


One of life’s more urgent and difficult problems is learning to set the boundaries of the ego. Such control represents true maturity of character and personality.

You shouls also read Piagett and some developmental psychology rather than the Freudian drivel you fill your mind with.

And this statement is what four thousand or more years old.


"Master others is force, mastering the self is strenth", "more words mean less","the path is straight and wide, people are easily distracted".


The “self” is in the body but is not part of the body; it is symbolic and is not physical.

The self in other words doesn't exist, have you ever read of the buddha? Why waste your time on pretensious bafoons?

The human can be symbolically located wherever s/he thinks part of her really exists or belongs. The more insecure we are the more important these symbolic extensions of the self become. In conceiving our self as a container that overflows with various and important extensions that our technology provides us we might appear like a giant amoeba spread out over the land with a center in the self.

You show an amazing lack of critical thought, where have you been in your life? These are silly nalogies and metaphors.

Technology conflated with the self, hmm. Muddled thinking, are you sure you can individuate your ego from reality. Egos don't exist.


Because the child has no such control and is almost always identified through the parent, the child reflects the parent’s point of view. The child is the parent before s/he is his or her self; psychoanalysis’ call this “repression”.

What utter trash and drivel you silly man! perhaps children identify with thier parent because of associative learning. You are parochial, you are peddling your medieval hogwash in the atomic era. Very silly.

“This simplified discussion of the ego and its boundaries take us right into the heart of psychoanalytic theory, and to one of its true and lasting discoveries: the famous “mechanisms of defense”.

Yeah, so lasting that no one who is a good clinician uses them anymore, but justr like the other religions you will persist in foolish wanderings. The mechanisms of defense are better term 'coping strategies' some are helpful and some are not, I suppose you can use your Aristotle style logic to figure that one out.

try the word 'behavior'.



These mechanisms describe how the child stakes out the extensions of the self. “Introjection” is the taking the parts of one person into the image of the self. “Projection” is the placing of the child’s desires and thoughts into others. “Each of us is in some ways a grotesque collage, a composite of injected and ejected parts over which we have no honest control…Little wonder that we spend our lives searching in mirrors to find out who we “really” are.”

So quaint just like the Ptolomean cycles, you are way behind the times dude and lost in the abyss of foolish people.
These terms are better described in other term and hopelessly lost in religous tripe.
Start with Piagett he is only about sixty years of publication.


Ideas and quotes from “The Birth and Death of Meaning”—Ernest Becker


This is the usual trash Coberts, why waste your time?

The self does not exist, it is an illusion, a construct with no reality.