Booted from the Infowars.com Chatroom [Archive]

anticonspiracy911

15th January 2007, 12:59 PM

Spindrift

15th January 2007, 01:03 PM

So much for the 9/11 Truth Movement's pretense on being for the Bill of Rights 'cause they just eradicated 1/5 of the first amendment about a couple of minutes ago by booting me from the Infowars.com chatroom because apparently I was too critical of the movement. I made mention of the fact that none of the documentaries on 9/11 supporting the conspiracy have any structural engineers in them. That is when one of the posters made a desperate attempt at saying there were tons of them coming out now, and that I won't find out if I don't look. That is when I got the boot from some administrator named Oracle who left me the following: "not today, child." Is that the best they can do?

Um, the first amendment has nothing to do with privately run chatrooms. They are well within their "rights" to ban anyone they want for any reason whatsoever. It may be hypocritical, but it's not a violation of the 1st amendment.

But welcome anyway.

anticonspiracy911

15th January 2007, 01:40 PM

Um, the first amendment has nothing to do with privately run chatrooms. They are well within their "rights" to ban anyone they want for any reason whatsoever. It may be hypocritical, but it's not a violation of the 1st amendment.

But welcome anyway.

Thank you. It's just comical watching how they get all desperate when someone critical like me questions them.

anticonspiracy911

15th January 2007, 02:02 PM

Has anyone else on this forum had to deal with such incidents of being booted or banned from a 9/11 conspiracy website?

Firestone

15th January 2007, 02:04 PM

Has anyone else on this forum had to deal with such incidents of being booted or banned from a 9/11 conspiracy website?Read (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=71839) and enjoy ... :)

apathoid

15th January 2007, 02:05 PM

Has anyone else on this forum had to deal with such incidents of being booted or banned from a 9/11 conspiracy website?

Pretty much all of the regulars here have been banned from the Loose Change forum...

Oh and :welcome4

Oliver

15th January 2007, 02:12 PM

Has anyone else on this forum had to deal with such incidents of being booted or banned from a 9/11 conspiracy website?

Welcome on board, anticonspiracy911. http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/greet010.gif

Actually we have Badges for being banned (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=2258396&postcount=374) for no good
reason - to give you a clue concerning your question.

JimBenArm

15th January 2007, 02:19 PM

Has anyone else on this forum had to deal with such incidents of being booted or banned from a 9/11 conspiracy website?
I'm one of the few that hasn't, mostly because I haven't been there. After reading up here on what goes on over there, and witnessing the parade of bannings, I figured there wasn't much point in going, because I wouldn't last long anyway.

Anyway, welcome aboard!

T.A.M.

15th January 2007, 02:24 PM

So much for the 9/11 Truth Movement's pretense on being for the Bill of Rights 'cause they just eradicated 1/5 of the first amendment about a couple of minutes ago by booting me from the Infowars.com chatroom because apparently I was too critical of the movement. I made mention of the fact that none of the documentaries on 9/11 supporting the conspiracy have any structural engineers in them. That is when one of the posters made a desperate attempt at saying there were tons of them coming out now, and that I won't find out if I don't look. That is when I got the boot from some administrator named Oracle who left me the following: "not today, child." Is that the best they can do?

Oliver is likely busy making you a badge now as we speak...lol

Welcome to the Forum AC911. I get your point. It isnt a violation of the first ammendment, technically, but it does show the hypocracy that underlies their movement, given one of the mantras AJ spues concerns the loss of Constitutional Freedoms that the USA Citizens are losing through the new Police State.

TAM:)

Oliver

15th January 2007, 02:45 PM

Oliver is likely busy making you a badge now as we speak...lol

Welcome to the Forum AC911. I get your point. It isnt a violation of the first ammendment, technically, but it does show the hypocracy that underlies their movement, given one of the mantras AJ spues concerns the loss of Constitutional Freedoms that the USA Citizens are losing through the new Police State.

TAM:)

Mhmm, i could make a "Infowars Chatroom Badge", but it´s
a pretty unknown, unworthy place, isn´t it? :p

PerryLogan

15th January 2007, 02:48 PM

Mhmm, i could make a "Infowars Chatroom Badge", but it´s a pretty unknown, unworthy place, isn´t it? :pYes, but one could wear the badge on one's butt.

Almo

15th January 2007, 02:51 PM

Has anyone else on this forum had to deal with such incidents of being booted or banned from a 9/11 conspiracy website?

Me too. An I was even pretty innocuous on Loose Change. I got banned just for being a member of this forum. :confused:

Oliver

15th January 2007, 03:05 PM

Me too. An I was even pretty innocuous on Loose Change. I got banned just for being a member of this forum. :confused:

I heard stories from skeptics that were
even banned BEFORE signing in!!! :p

Alareth

15th January 2007, 03:24 PM

I heard stories from skeptics that were
even banned BEFORE signing in!!! :p

Bell's pre-emptive ban before even posting is extremely funny. It all happened in less than 10 minutes.

ETA:

The story in Bell's own words (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=2223664&postcount=24)

Axiom_Blade

15th January 2007, 03:32 PM

Mhmm, i could make a "Infowars Chatroom Badge", but it´s
a pretty unknown, unworthy place, isn´t it? :p

Infowars...chatroom.
Those two words together...*shudder*

apathoid

15th January 2007, 03:32 PM

I heard stories from skeptics that were
even banned BEFORE signing in!!! :p

That would be Bell when he tried signing up at Piwots4Twoof. I figured D'oh would give me the same treatment since I made him look like a fool(even for him) and got banned for it after making exactly 2 posts which broke no rules(other than making Jonny stick his foot in his mouth). So, thanks to Bell, I knew not to use my JREF nick there and I am maintaing a deep cover sock that I'd rather not talk about....

Oliver

15th January 2007, 03:32 PM

Bell's pre-emptive ban before even posting is extremely funny. It all happened in less than 10 minutes.

No kidding here? http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107451da7e781cb2.gif Where can i find that thread?

Alareth

15th January 2007, 03:34 PM

No kidding here? http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107451da7e781cb2.gif Where can i find that thread?

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=2223664&postcount=24

uk_dave

15th January 2007, 03:38 PM

I'm almost inclined to join LC just to get banned...I hate being left out of the party :D

Arkan_Wolfshade

15th January 2007, 03:41 PM

I'm going to be a wet blanket here; from the 40,000' view, the only difference between proxy-access to LCF and pdoh, et al's, sock-puppetry here, is that the JREF forum rules explicitly forbid sock-puppetry.

Might do well to keep that in mind.

Just because LCF's bannings tend to be flippant does not necessarily excuse bypassing said bans.

apathoid

15th January 2007, 03:51 PM

I'm almost inclined to join LC just to get banned...I hate being left out of the party :D

Thats like being a Catholic and not being baptized. Getting banned from LC is a rite of passage for us JREFers. Be a good JREFer and go to LC, get banned and get your badge. It can all be done in a single day and you'll be changed forever :)

T.A.M.

15th January 2007, 03:52 PM

I wouldnt be surprised if I went to join under the name TAM, that it would say "That name is not permitted on the LC Forum"...lol

TAM

The Silver Shadow

15th January 2007, 05:05 PM

Has anyone else on this forum had to deal with such incidents of being booted or banned from a 9/11 conspiracy website?
I was banned from the LC forums after debating Killtard and saying that his comparison of Flight 93's crash to the Lockerbie bombing is flawed. Dylan claimed that I was "being childish"...

LashL

15th January 2007, 07:27 PM

Infowars...chatroom.
Those two words together...*shudder*

Exactly what I was thinking! I didn't even know that they had a chatroom (thankful for small kindnesses).

LashL

15th January 2007, 07:34 PM

I'm almost inclined to join LC just to get banned...I hate being left out of the party :D

You know, I had been there for several months on the old board before the ugly meltdown in the wake of the power struggle between Russell Pickering and the other moderators and admins. And I had been there under the same name since October when the new board started, and never got banned until about a week ago when I wrote a polite post on the thread that Do-Over started in which he lied about others not donating money in support of the 9/11 charities, etc.

What I wrote was something to the effect that I had read in news articles that Universal Studios had, in fact, made donations in keeping with their pledges and asked whether he was saying that was not true. Instant banning and my post went down the rabbit-hole (though I did get a screen capture first).

Just goes to show you...

anticonspiracy911

15th January 2007, 08:06 PM

Oliver is likely busy making you a badge now as we speak...lol

Welcome to the Forum AC911. I get your point. It isnt a violation of the first ammendment, technically, but it does show the hypocracy that underlies their movement, given one of the mantras AJ spues concerns the loss of Constitutional Freedoms that the USA Citizens are losing through the new Police State.

TAM:)

I feel worthy of a badge, but that's up to Oliver haha.

ConspiRaider

15th January 2007, 08:11 PM

I'm almost inclined to join LC just to get banned...I hate being left out of the party :D
I hear ya, Dave. But I just can't bring myself to spend even a minute of my valuable time trying to gain access to a message board run by clueless college kiddies.

Somehow I'll swallow my disappointment at remaining essentially badgeless.

ConspiRaider

15th January 2007, 08:20 PM

I feel worthy of a badge, but that's up to Oliver haha.
Hell, I feel like Red Buttons griping at the Celebrity Roasts because he never got a dinner.

Oh yea, in spite of the stark whiteness of my beckoning Apartment Badge Wall - its forlorn emptiness and desolate nothingness, yawning in featureless and excruciating sameness across the hollow echoes of screaming unbroken oblivion:

I still support a Badge for your Courageous Infowarring Ways.

(Oliver, are you listening?)

Badge him!

Badge him!

Badge him!

Badge him!

T.A.M.

15th January 2007, 08:26 PM

given it was inforwars.com you were banned from, maybe oliver should design a MEDAL or STRIPES for you instead of a badge...lol

TAM

LashL

15th January 2007, 08:30 PM

Somehow I'll swallow my disappointment at remaining essentially badgeless.

Oh, no - you aren't badgeless, ConspiRaider. I think I offered to share THIS one with you back when neither of us could get on a certain ignore list (and if I didn't then, I'm offering now) :D

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_1110345a013a123335.gif

ConspiRaider

15th January 2007, 08:39 PM

Oh, no - you aren't badgeless, ConspiRaider. I think I offered to share THIS one with you back when neither of us could get on a certain ignore list (and if I didn't then, I'm offering now) :D

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_1110345a013a123335.gif
I appreciate it LashL, you know I do, yer terrific and all. Yet, that Badge is enshrined - glittering, sparkling, dazzling, breathtaking in its gleaming beauty - on the wall of YOUR lovely home and not mine. I mean you deserve it and all, don't get me wrong, but...

Well, it's kind of like the Red Buttons at the Celebrity Roast Dinners where they wouldn't give him one.

Now if someone got a Dinner, and from that Dinner graciously let Red have one of her veal cutlets and some snow peas from her extra large helping - would Red have been satisfied? Should he have been? He'd have been appreciative and all, but still...

Mince

15th January 2007, 08:42 PM

Is that the best they can do?

No. It is the only they can do.

T.A.M.

15th January 2007, 08:59 PM

AC911:

I am no Ollie, but I felt you deserved something...and oh well I had the time.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_1076145ac5b8ba2046.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=3674)

TAM:)

anticonspiracy911

15th January 2007, 09:20 PM

Thank you Tam :-). I will wear that badge with honor haha.

PerryLogan

16th January 2007, 04:18 AM

NeoRicen

16th January 2007, 05:49 AM

Um, the first amendment has nothing to do with privately run chatrooms. They are well within their "rights" to ban anyone they want for any reason whatsoever. It may be hypocritical, but it's not a violation of the 1st amendment.

But welcome anyway.

While that's true you'd expect that a group so aggressively claiming their defence of the 1st Amendment would uphold those same values in their organisation.

The Doc

16th January 2007, 05:51 AM

While that's true you'd expect that a group so aggressively claiming their defence of the 1st Amendment would uphold those same values in their organisation.

Exactly. Nice post Neo.

I find that all of the conspiracy folks *cough*LOOSE CHANGE FORUMS*cough* tend to do this.

NeoRicen

16th January 2007, 05:53 AM

The Doc

16th January 2007, 05:54 AM

I should say:

While that's true you'd expect that a group so aggressively claiming their defence of the 1st Amendment would uphold those same values in their organisation unless that organisation is InfoWars.

Or the Loose Change Forums :p

By the way, NeoRicen is my brother (literally). So Mods, if it seems like I'm posting to myself (IP - same WiFi network), I'm not lol.

T.A.M.

16th January 2007, 08:00 AM

Clearly, we're missing the real challenge of the Loose Change Forum, which is not to get banned. Someone should see how long they can stay there, making comments, and not get thrown out.

I'll admit I'm not exactly sure how anyone would do this. You'd have to pose as a sort of pseudo-woowoo, inserting subtle wedges in their little brains.

Good point Perry. Maybe we could award belts (Ninja belts).

yellow belt - lasted 2 days at LC
green belt - lasted 4 days at LC
orange belt - lasted 1 week at LC
blue belt - lasted 2 week at LC
brown belt - lasted 1 month at LC
black belt - lasted 2 months or more at LC

Of course, the rules would dictate that you must not pass yourself off as a truther, but must act as you usually would, making the same arguments you make here...we'll be watching.

TAM:)

anticonspiracy911

16th January 2007, 10:14 AM

While that's true you'd expect that a group so aggressively claiming their defence of the 1st Amendment would uphold those same values in their organisation.

I think that's what I was trying to get at with the OP.

Thunder

16th January 2007, 04:37 PM

The goal of the 9-11 Truth Movemant is to "protect" and "defend" freedom of speech and democracy....not to practise it.

Horatius

16th January 2007, 07:21 PM

Clearly, we're missing the real challenge of the Loose Change Forum, which is not to get banned. Someone should see how long they can stay there, making comments, and not get thrown out.

I'll admit I'm not exactly sure how anyone would do this. You'd have to pose as a sort of pseudo-woowoo, inserting subtle wedges in their little brains.

I tried to do that. I started off just trying to make a few friendly suggestions as to how they might better try to convince people, but the almost constant stupidity, blatant mistakes and lying broke down my defences. I just had to say something! And I wasn't even going out of my way to find such things, they were all over pretty much every active thread.

And I didn't even get banned! Just a lousy suspension, with no notice or explanation....