Post a Conspiracy Theory Scientific Law

[anticonspiracy911]

1. All collapses are brought down by controlled demolition
2. All collapses are brought down by controlled demolition
3. Free Fall speed= Inside Job
4. Plumes of smoke only come from volcanos and controlled demolitions
5. Irrelevant examples require no context
6. Fire= A patsy
7. Truth seeps out only admist chaos


Feel free to add any you've come across. We need to understand these TROOFERS! :D

[The Doc]

:)

How they see it:
"Molten Metal = Molten Steel"
"Black Smoke = Oxygen Starved Fire"
"White Smoke = Aluminum Oxide = Thermite"
"Iron Oxide = Thermite" (Actually Rust Lol)
"Opinion Piece = Factual Report"
"Questions = Evidence"
"Speculation = Truth"
"9.2 Seconds = Controlled Demolition"
"Puff of Air = Explosive"
"Loud Noise = Explosion"
"Explosion = Bomb"
"Pentagon Witnesses = Liars"
"Alex Jones = Smart"
"Kevin Ryan = Steel Expert"
"Dylan Avery = Past Puberty"
"Jason Bermas = Sane"
"Korey Rowe = Head strong"
"Eric Hufshmitd = Metal Cutter"
"Plane Impact = Harmless"
"Jet Fuel = Irrelevant"
"NIST = Agents"
"Loose Change = Truthful"
"Ground Zero = Protest Ground"

And now,
How we see it:
"Molten Metal = Any metal in its molten state"
"Black Smoke = Petroleum products such as jet fuel and plastic burning"
"White Smoke = Could be anything"
"Iron Oxide = Rust"
"Opinion Piece = Based on Opinion"
"Questions = Questions"
"Speculation = Stupid"
"9.2 Seconds = A possible collapse time"
"Puff of Air = Exactly that"
"Loud Noise = Exactly that"
"Explosion = Something Exploding"
"Pentagon Witnesses = Witnesses"
"Alex Jones = Crazy"
"Kevin Ryan = Waterboy"
"Dylan Avery = Angry child seeking attention"
"Jason Bermas = Nuts"
"Korey Rowe = Inability to debate"
"Eric Hufshmitd = Software Engineering Holocaust Denying Loon"
"Plane Impact = Structural Damage"
"Jet Fuel = Further Structural Damage"
"NIST = Respected Scientists"
"Loose Change = [Rule 8]"
"Ground Zero = Place of Mourning"

Well that's how I see it anyway lol.

[Oliver]

:)

How they see it:
"Molten Metal = Molten Steel"
"Black Smoke = Oxygen Starved Fire"
"White Smoke = Aluminum Oxide = Thermite"
"Iron Oxide = Thermite" (Actually Rust Lol)
"Opinion Piece = Factual Report"
"Questions = Evidence"
"Speculation = Truth"
"9.2 Seconds = Controlled Demolition"
"Puff of Air = Explosive"
"Loud Noise = Explosion"
"Explosion = Bomb"
"Pentagon Witnesses = Liars"
"Alex Jones = Smart"
"Kevin Ryan = Steel Expert"
"Dylan Avery = Past Puberty"
"Jason Bermas = Sane"
"Korey Rowe = Head strong"
"Eric Hufshmitd = Metal Cutter"
"Plane Impact = Harmless"
"Jet Fuel = Irrelevant"
"NIST = Agents"
"Loose Change = Truthful"
"Ground Zero = Protest Ground"

And now,
How we see it:
"Molten Metal = Any metal in its molten state"
"Black Smoke = Petroleum products such as jet fuel and plastic burning"
"White Smoke = Could be anything"
"Iron Oxide = Rust"
"Opinion Piece = Based on Opinion"
"Questions = Questions"
"Speculation = Stupid"
"9.2 Seconds = A possible collapse time"
"Puff of Air = Exactly that"
"Loud Noise = Exactly that"
"Explosion = Something Exploding"
"Pentagon Witnesses = Witnesses"
"Alex Jones = Crazy"
"Kevin Ryan = Waterboy"
"Dylan Avery = Angry child seeking attention"
"Jason Bermas = Nuts"
"Korey Rowe = Inability to debate"
"Eric Hufshmitd = Software Engineering Holocaust Denying Loon"
"Plane Impact = Structural Damage"
"Jet Fuel = Further Structural Damage"
"NIST = Respected Scientists"
"Loose Change = [Rule 8]"
"Ground Zero = Place of Mourning"

Well that's how I see it anyway lol.

"Truth = Cover up, disinfo, psyop"

[anticonspiracy911]

:)

How they see it:
"Molten Metal = Molten Steel"
"Black Smoke = Oxygen Starved Fire"
"White Smoke = Aluminum Oxide = Thermite"
"Iron Oxide = Thermite" (Actually Rust Lol)
"Opinion Piece = Factual Report"
"Questions = Evidence"
"Speculation = Truth"
"9.2 Seconds = Controlled Demolition"
"Puff of Air = Explosive"
"Loud Noise = Explosion"
"Explosion = Bomb"
"Pentagon Witnesses = Liars"
"Alex Jones = Smart"
"Kevin Ryan = Steel Expert"
"Dylan Avery = Past Puberty"
"Jason Bermas = Sane"
"Korey Rowe = Head strong"
"Eric Hufshmitd = Metal Cutter"
"Plane Impact = Harmless"
"Jet Fuel = Irrelevant"
"NIST = Agents"
"Loose Change = Truthful"
"Ground Zero = Protest Ground"

And now,
How we see it:
"Molten Metal = Any metal in its molten state"
"Black Smoke = Petroleum products such as jet fuel and plastic burning"
"White Smoke = Could be anything"
"Iron Oxide = Rust"
"Opinion Piece = Based on Opinion"
"Questions = Questions"
"Speculation = Stupid"
"9.2 Seconds = A possible collapse time"
"Puff of Air = Exactly that"
"Loud Noise = Exactly that"
"Explosion = Something Exploding"
"Pentagon Witnesses = Witnesses"
"Alex Jones = Crazy"
"Kevin Ryan = Waterboy"
"Dylan Avery = Angry child seeking attention"
"Jason Bermas = Nuts"
"Korey Rowe = Inability to debate"
"Eric Hufshmitd = Software Engineering Holocaust Denying Loon"
"Plane Impact = Structural Damage"
"Jet Fuel = Further Structural Damage"
"NIST = Respected Scientists"
"Loose Change = [Rule 8]"
"Ground Zero = Place of Mourning"

Well that's how I see it anyway lol.


Good list. :)

[ref]

Squibs during a collapse = demolition charges
Lightpoles = proof of a conspiracy
Leaseholder of multiple skyscrapers on TV = A conspirator admitting controlled demolition

[Big Al]

Airliner impact = minor distraction
Failure to be convinced = willful denial
Request for evidence = request for repeat of didactic assertion, preferably in capitals

I'm interested to see how two troofers, who hold different but equally implacable views (sky beam vs. thermite vs. remote-controlled planes), can be the best of friends as long as they agree the core doctrine that 9/11 was an inside job.

[Oliver]

"evidence = irrelevance"
"logic = disinfo"
"math = psyop"
"honesty = troll"
"9/11 = Conspiracy Disney Park"
"Media = Shills"
"Shanksville = NWO disinfo headquarters"

[anticonspiracy911]

Opie and Anthony= Government sock puppets
Alex Jones= Historian/Journalist
Perry Logan= Pornographer :D
Debunking= Ignorance
Security Cameras= Photoshop Editing
Bin Laden= Truth Seeker
U.S. Government= Pathological Liars

[Mancman]

Fires which burnt across 6 floors of WTC2 and 12 floors of WTC1 = small, isolated.

[valis]

Not really a law but.....

Scientific method = applying common sense to personal observation.

[MortFurd]

Incredulity is a valid measuring tool in investigations, and far more trustworthy than all the experts in the world.

[Firestone]

In general they apply the following scientific rule: "All Laws of Physics are Linear".

(Altough it's doubtful most of them even understand the words in this law.)

[jhunter1163]

The laws of gravity are variable, affecting falling towers, falling debris and falling grand pianos in different ways.

[PerryLogan]

Bullhorns enhance the viability of all scientific propositions.
Repetition increases the validity of all hypotheses.
Ignoring contravening data makes it go away.
Employment by the government disqualifies all findings.
Newton's Law of Causation: the government did it.
Preconceptions are more accurate than mathematics.

[MortFurd]

In general they apply the following scientific rule: "All Laws of Physics are Linear".

(Altough it's doubtful most of them even understand the words in this law.)
Case(s) in point. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=72842)

Several quotes, including one that no longer exists except as quotes. 28th Kingdom was way out in left field and edited his post to hide the stupidity after it was pointed out - but the JREF Ninjas had carefully quoted him when responding, so the stupidity was preserved for posterity.

[Oliver]

The laws of gravity are variable, affecting falling towers, falling debris and falling grand pianos in different ways.

I guess that if the "LIHOP/MIHOP WAR STOP (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4162315283354424113&hl=en#00h14m12s)"-guy would
play the piano during the fall, he would indeed at least
fall double as fast as freefall - as result of god´s mercy.

[Architect]

Less is more.


But only in relation to CT evidence.

[PerryLogan]

Less is more.


But only in relation to CT evidence.And the corollary: More is less, in relation to real evidence.

[Architect]

Mies is spinning in his grave.

But what would have known about skyscrapers anyway?

[Firestone]

Don't forget the Law of Precedent: "Nothing can happen that hasn't happened before".

As in:

No steel-reinforced skyscrappers have EVER collapsed before 9/11 ...
or
Never has therm?te been used in a Controlled Demolition ...

oeps, sorry, I'll be back when I've worked this out ...

[Architect]

Accurate modelling can take place using inaccurate models (cf mesh cages and construction paper models)

[MortFurd]

Snip...
Preconceptions are more accurate than mathematics.
If a fact doesn't agree with your preconceptions, disregard the fact.

[The Doc]

If your theory doesn't work - make it work, no matter how stupid your theory is.

For example:

CT: You know WTC7 only had small fires
Me: Where'd all the smoke come from?
CT:.... SMOKE BOMBS WERE IN THE BUILDING!

[pvt1863]

The law of isolated cause. Every event must have one and only one cause. For example, buildings can collapse because of physical damage or fires, but not because of physical damage and fires; therefore if one of these factors on its own was not enough to bring the towers down, then the official story is false.

The law of look alike = act alike. Any two objects that resemble each other in appearance must act in exactly the same manner when subjected to vaguely similar conditions. For example, a tall building at the WTC site must react to physical damage and fires the same way a tall building reacts to fire alone.

The law of damage based solely on distance. The amount of damage done to an object by a high energy event is a function of distance only. For example, it is impossible that WTC7 recieved more damage from the collapsing towers than buildings that were closer.

The conspiracy theorist's razor. When presented with two possible explainations, the one that is more interesting is true.

The law of questionable opposition ethics. Any person not on your side can be paid off or otherwise convinced to engage in unethical behavior. For example, any structural engineer can be bribed (either directly or indirectly through research funding) to back the official story about 9/11, even though that would mean knowingly covering up a mass murder; therefore their analysis can't be trusted and can be dismissed outright.

The law of analogy. Analogies trump deterministic analysis in all cases. For example, the steel WTC towers could not have collapsed in part due to heat because that would be like having a cast iron stove that melts when you use it.

The law of all-or-nothing. An expert or expertly generated document must be either entirely true or entirely false. For example, if a document mistakenly lists the collapse time of a WTC tower as 10 seconds, it must be true if any other facts in the document are to be believed; if it is false, then the whole document cannot be trusted.

The law of hypothesis = conclusion. If an expert or group of experts makes a hypothesis, that hypothesis represents their conclusion; if they later alter or dismiss the hypothesis as a result of research, then they are unknowledgable or are changing their story for sinister reasons. For example, NIST originally hypothesized that pankaking was the cause for collapse initiation at the WTC but later decided that was not the case; therefore either the NIST scientists and engineers are ignorant or they are changing their story because they are covering something up and realize that their original hypothesis/conclusion was indefensible.

[Mancman]

Mies is spinning in his grave.

But what would have known about skyscrapers anyway?

I like this post.

[Firestone]

The binary speach law.

Plotters always lie, but sometimes (for no good reason) tell the truth. They never NEVER misspeak!

[Tirdun]

I thought white smoke meant that they'd picked a Pope.

They must use THERMITE!! The Cardinals were behind 9/11!!

[Mashuna]

Bullhorns enhance the viability of all scientific propositions.
Repetition increases the validity of all hypotheses.
Ignoring contravening data makes it go away.
Employment by the government disqualifies all findings.
Newton's Law of Causation: the government did it.
Preconceptions are more accurate than mathematics.

Also, repetition increases the validity of all hypotheses.

[Big Al]

"Anything I, as a complete layman with a school drop-out's understanding of physics, structures or architecture, cannot understand while scratching my arse in an armchair, must be a lie."
The most convoluted and complex explanation is the most likely (Occam's Shaving Balm)
Lots of capital letters, spelling mistakes and exclamation marks are a perfectly acceptable substitute for calm, rational examination of the evidence.
All the world is insane except for thee and me. And I'm not to sure about thee...

[Spektator]

A mind in ignorance tends to remain in ignorance.

[aggle-rithm]

Don't forget their firm grasp of commercial science:

1. If someone gains financially from an event, then they caused that event to happen.

2. Any funds that are unaccounted for were stolen.

3. Insurance companies don't bother to investigate claims, they are happy to pay out billions of dollars without question.

4. When an insurance settlement is paid for destroyed revenue-generating property, the insured makes a net profit equal to the amount of the settlement.

[aggle-rithm]

Also, their grasp of statistics:

The odds against someone outgrowing ten pairs of pants simultaneously are astronomical.

[aggle-rithm]

The most convoluted and complex explanation is the most likely (Occam's Shaving Balm)


Good one! My term for it is "Occam's Snowball".

[Mashuna]

Good one! My term for it is "Occam's Snowball".

The phrase I've seen used around here most is Smacco's razor :D

[Flo]

28th law of debate: "If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull***t"

[defaultdotxbe]

The law of all-or-nothing. An expert or expertly generated document must be either entirely true or entirely false. For example, if a document mistakenly lists the collapse time of a WTC tower as 10 seconds, it must be true if any other facts in the document are to be believed; if it is false, then the whole document cannot be trusted.

this one needs some sort of cherry-picking corollory, if a given fact in an otherwise false document can be misrepresented to support your theory it is taken as gospel

[Big Al]

The phrase I've seen used around here most is Smacco's razor :D

LOL! I like the sound of that, although Whacco's Razor might be nearer the mark. Or rozaR s'maccO. :D

[JAStewart]

Lack of visible evidence (plane parts) = inside job
9/11 = inside job
all governments are evil
Pentagon = too much evidence that supports the official story so call it a 'psyop'

[aggle-rithm]

28th law of debate: "If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull***t"

28K's classic:

"Real-world events cannot be modeled by mathematics because it is too abstract."

[Firestone]

The Law of Photographic Evidence.

Any photo confirming the OCT is additional evidence of a cover-up.
Any missing photo too.

[JonnyFive]

In general they apply the following scientific rule: "All Laws of Physics are Linear".

(Altough it's doubtful most of them even understand the words in this law.)

Squares are called that because only squares would use them. Get it?

Forget about any higher powers, those don't even show up on the troofer radar screen.

Someone needs to make them a "Physics is Linear - And I'm a moron" shirt.

[Loss Leader]

Don't forget:

The Law of Attenuation: Any association between any two people establishes conclusively that the people were co-conspirators. Ex. Benjamin Chertoff, the "senior researcher" at Popular Mechanics ... is none other than a cousin of Michael Chertoff, the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. This means that Hearst paid Benjamin Chertoff to write an article supporting the seriously flawed explanation that is based on a practically non-existent investigation of the terror event that directly led to the creation of the massive national security department his "cousin" now heads. (source (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/070305chertoffscousin.htm))

[Loss Leader]

And:

The Holographic Evidence Rule: Any photograph or video taken from any distance at any angle provides sufficient information to infer anything about the 3-dimensional reality. Ex. These frames from a South Tower collapse video are separated by equal time intervals. Examining the the middle edge of the falling portion of the tower shows that its angle of tilt from vertical remains about the same between the second and third frames, and therefore the top has stopped rotating. But unless the top had already been shattered, it should have continued to rotate in accordance with the law of conservation of angular momentum. (Source (http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/proofs/rotation.html))

[realitybites]

- It's easy to fake crash sites in Pennsylvania and plant 6-ton sections of columns in the streets of New York at a time when thousands of people are in the streets looking at burning towers.

- People who take photographs are "in on it".

- Wearing black t-shirts means you're right.

[JonnyFive]

Rule of Imagination: If I can imagine it happening, it happened.

[Panoply_Prefect]

Long text = Lie
Blurry video on Youtube = Truth
Few stars on Google = Lie
Many stars on Google =Truth
If its not on the Internet = Lie / Proof of conspiracy

and dont forget the Mirror Occams Razor: The most complicated and least probable explanation is always true.

[Firestone]

The Inverse Proportional Law of Experts.

EV=1

where
E: number of experts supporting a given theory
V: validity index of the theory. V=1 means the theory is true.

Example: since only one expert in the world thinks that WTC 7 was demolished by CD, V for that theory is 1.
If E=0, V is infinite, and the theory is even more true than true.

[JonnyFive]

The Inverse Proportional Law of Experts.

EV=1

where
E: number of experts supporting a given theory
V: validity index of the theory. V=1 means the theory is true.


As E approaches 0, V approaches infinity. :)

I like it, I like it a lot.

Also, I would propose the Inverse Law of "Experts"

E' x P = 1

Where
E': Number of fake Google "experts" supporting a theory.
P: Probability that a given theory is wrong.

As E' approaches infinity, P approaches Zero.

[Firestone]

As E approaches 0, V approaches infinity. :)

I like it, I like it a lot.

Also, I would propose the Inverse Law of "Experts"

E' x P = 1

Where
E': Number of fake Google "experts" supporting a theory.
P: Probability that a given theory is wrong.

As E' approaches infinity, P approaches Zero.Very good!
We now have TWO formula's, more than enough to get these laws peer-reviewed!
Shall we go with Fetzer or with Jones now?

[JonnyFive]

Shall we go with Fetzer or with Jones now?

Doesn't matter. Either way, that's probably beyond their level of mathematical comprehension, so it's a lost cause. :)

[aggle-rithm]

Doesn't matter. Either way, that's probably beyond their level of mathematical comprehension, so it's a lost cause. :)

I think the only two equations they really use are:

A = B

and

A = !B

Anything more complex would go right over their heads.

[Gord_in_Toronto]

I just read this thread very quickly (I really should get back to work) but I did not see this one:

It must have been a Controlled Demolition because it looks nothing like any other Controlled Demolition anyone has ever seen before. :boggled:

[Stellafane]

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction by the worldwide Zionist/Jewish/Neocom/NWO conspiracy to control our minds and enslave makind and make my teachers give me bad grades and keep that cute girl who sits in the corner in study hall from going out with me.

[Arus808]

surprised no one posted the dylan avery comment about how the victims of 911 are secondary.

[~enigma~]

What about the first law of woodom...

Facts, we don't need no stinkin facts.

[fuelair]

Where NWO agents are involved, the formula F=ma must include the coefficient of explosive (E!) which must be placed into the equation where necessary and in the way necessary to provide full and unarguable proof of the involvement of NWO agents. This includes, but is not limited to:
F=ma+E!, F=ma-E!, F=m/E! +a, F=m-a/E!, FE!=ma (etc.

[JonnyFive]

A = !B

Anything more complex would go right over their heads.

Ah yes, good old "A equals very much B". Good one. ;)

[anticonspiracy911]

Experts in irrelevant fields > Experts in relevant fields
Asking questions and thinking for yourself = Ignore all history and consider all possibilities plausible and probable

Public Access TV Show= The public "waking up"
If you haven't viewed a video, it doesn't exist

[PerryLogan]

There's no hope without dope.

[anticonspiracy911]

There's no hope without dope.

Perry Logan x Debunking = Turning the 9/11 Truth Movement so UTTERLY BLUE!

Good job on the "Utterly Blue" episode by the way. I can't get that mantra out of my head. :D

[Anti-sophist]

The first law of CT deduction...

If A implies B, and B is true, A is true (when A is sufficiently appealing to my mental illnesss).

The second law of CT deduction...

If A said B, and A said C, and B is wrong, C is wrong (when C is insufficiently appealing to my mental illness)


Killtown's first law of motion... (elegantly derived http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=61633&page=31)

Velocity + Distance = Distance

[PerryLogan]

Perry Logan x Debunking = Turning the 9/11 Truth Movement so UTTERLY BLUE!

Good job on the "Utterly Blue" episode by the way. I can't get that mantra out of my head.Thank you. You will soon feel an uncontrollable urge to send me money.

For those who don't know what we're talking about, I do weird YouTube and Google videos. Don't tell Randi or he'll turn me into a newt. He fears my psychic powers.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

P1: A claims B;
P2: A is a C;
C: Therefore, B is false.

P1: A claims B;
P2: A is in circumstances C;
C: Therefore, B is false.

P1: A claims B;
P2: A practices not-B;
C: Therefore, B is inconsistent with A's actions.

P1: A is claimed;
P2: x many people believe that A is false, where x is large;
C: Therefore, A is false.

P1: Not doing A will result in B;
P2: B is undesirable;
C: Therefore, we should do A.

P1: If A then B;
P2: B;
C: Therefore, A.

P1: If A then B;
P2: Not A;
C: Therefore, not B.

[JonnyFive]

Killtown's first law of motion... (elegantly derived http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=61633&page=31)

Velocity + Distance = Distance

Common sense at work.

[Arus808]

P1: A claims B;
P2: A is a C;
C: Therefore, B is false.

P1: A claims B;
P2: A is in circumstances C;
C: Therefore, B is false.

P1: A claims B;
P2: A practices not-B;
C: Therefore, B is inconsistent with A's actions.

P1: A is claimed;
P2: x many people believe that A is false, where x is large;
C: Therefore, A is false.

P1: Not doing A will result in B;
P2: B is undesirable;
C: Therefore, we should do A.

P1: If A then B;
P2: B;
C: Therefore, A.

P1: If A then B;
P2: Not A;
C: Therefore, not B.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9049/dizzymw0.gif http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2343/dizzylc9.gif :hypnotize http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1131/dizzy2eq9.gif http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7006/dizzylf1.gif
Seriously....my dog makes more sense than Cter's

[A W Smith]

Mies is spinning in his grave.

But what would have known about skyscrapers anyway?


or his barcelona chair

[Architect]

Obviously you've never tried sitting in one of the damned things. They're uncomfortable as blazes!

[uk_dave]

Yeah well, architects should never be allowed to design furniture.... or buildings.

[JonnyFive]

Obviously you've never tried sitting in one of the damned things. They're uncomfortable as blazes!

Jeez, it doesn't even look comfortable (http://www.steelform.com/barc.html)!

[Architect]

Yeah well, architects should never be allowed to design furniture.... or buildings.

Right, outside.....now! ;)

[Architect]

Jeez, it doesn't even look comfortable (http://www.steelform.com/barc.html)!

They were designed for the Spanish King to sit on at the opening of the Barcelona Pavillion, however if I recall correctly he refused to do so.......and who can blame him! :)

[A W Smith]

Obviously you've never tried sitting in one of the damned things. They're uncomfortable as blazes!


I could never even afford one!! But just looking at it tells me in about 15 minutes its gonna throw my bad back out. again. Guess it violates the form follows function rule.


Holy Ganole!! € 1.299,00 - incl. shipping

[uk_dave]

They were designed for the Spanish King to sit on at the opening of the Barcelona Pavillion, however if I recall correctly he refused to do so.......and who can blame him! :)

Did you see that series on BBC 4 (or 3) about california, the one titled "From Ranch to raunch"?

It was about building and interior design and focused on california ranch houses and the swinging 60's and 70's where the furniture tended to put the occupant in an....... available position ;)

Not sure there was any god in those details. :D

[Architect]

Guess it violates the form follows function rule.

Don't even get me started on Corb. Or worse, old Frank LLoyd Wright - the man who's buildings leaked like sieves..........


Actually, I have to admit that I'm a big Mies fan.

[CHF]

Twoofer with a theory more bizarre than most: disinfo agent.

[A W Smith]

Don't even get me started on Corb. Or worse, old Frank LLoyd Wright - the man who's buildings leaked like sieves..........


Actually, I have to admit that I'm a big Mies fan.

ME TOO! there was a time in my life (1970's) I wanted to be an architect. But couldn't work the math. I absolutely hated Frank Lloyd Wright's work. it seemed deep, dark and cave like to me. With too much emphasis on the horizontal. Like a study of a shale outcropping. I remember reading somewhere that Wright did not spend much time overseeing the creation of his works and let the task to inexperienced student understudy's. Le Corbusiers works looked like sanitary facilities to me. My favorite Mies work was the Seagram's building.


Wow frank was a leak specialist (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=frank+lloyd+wright+leaking&spell=1)!

Hammurabi said (http://citycomfortsblog.typepad.com/cities/2004/01/hammurabi_said.html)
If a builder build a house for some one, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built leak and drown its owner, then that builder shall be put to death by drowning

[Architect]

ME TOO! there was a time in my life (1970's) I wanted to be an architect. But couldn't work the math. I absolutely hated Frank Lloyd Wright's work. it seemed deep, dark and cave like to me. With too much emphasis on the horizontal. Like a study of a shale outcropping. Le Corbusiers works looked like sanitary facilities to me. My favorite Mies work was the Seagram's building.

For me, it was finding out that Falling Water was uninhabitable due to humidity issues and the like. About the only thing he got right were the big central fireplaces.

Mies: not the early German stuff. Seagram Building is fantastic. But I have a soft spot for the Nationalgalerie in Berlin. Saw it on a university field trip in 87 (when there was still a Wall and everything!) and it looked as crisp and fresh as the day it was built.

[CHF]

I just read this thread very quickly (I really should get back to work) but I did not see this one:

It must have been a Controlled Demolition because it looks nothing like any other Controlled Demolition anyone has ever seen before. :boggled:

Well clearly that just means it's a NEW kind of demoltion....which the guv unveiled for the first time on 9/11. Twice. And both worked.

[CHF]

Another CT rule:

the conspirators ALWAYS make things exponentially more complicated for themselves than necessary.

Got a plan where you tell people a 757 hit the Pentagon? Don't just crash the damn plane into the target; that would be too easy.

Nope - instead you should land the plane and replace it with a missile...then scatter 757 wreckage all over the place.

And why would they do this?

Good question.... But they did.

[defaultdotxbe]

And why would they do this?
deep down they really really want to be found out by some guys in the internet

[PerryLogan]

deep down they really really want to be found out by some guys in the internetIt's a sordid tale.

[Brainache]

After conducting a series of thought experiments which I refuse to share with anyone, I have determined a new CT law: E=MC^2

Where; E= Everything.
M= Masons
C= Conspiracy
^2= Times a lot.

[aggle-rithm]

Ah yes, good old "A equals very much B". Good one. ;)

No, that would be "A = B, b*tch!"

[gumboot]

From a recent stupid CT post, a law for falling bodies:

t=d/g

Where t is the instaneous time taken for a body to fall a distance (d) under the influence of gravity (g = 9.8 m/s^2).

Note, for d use feet, for g use m/s.

-Gumboot

[aggle-rithm]

A building "implosion" creates a vacuum inside which the building falls.

[PerryLogan]

Logan's Law: The dumber the conspiracy guy, the smarter he thinks he is.

[defaultdotxbe]

Logan's Law: The dumber the conspiracy guy, the smarter he thinks he is.
http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf

[PerryLogan]

The news is controlled, unless you like the story.
The government is lying, unless you like what they're saying.

[Anti-sophist]

Logan's Law: The dumber the conspiracy guy, the smarter he thinks he is.

http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf

“Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science.” -Charles Darwin

[Loss Leader]

I almost forgot:

God's Law: No matter how hard the conspirators work to hide their dealings, God will embed subtle numerological clues in names, dates and ASCII code to lead the faithful.

[PerryLogan]

I almost forgot:

God's Law: No matter how hard the conspirators work to hide their dealings, God will embed subtle numerological clues in names, dates and ASCII code to lead the faithful.And only The Faithful shall be able to read said signs, which will be obvious to them, but will seem really stupid to The Sheeple.

And God said "Go Thou amongst The Sheeple and spread My Word and speak unto them these Hidden Signs, as I have instructed ye. And use thy Bullhorns."

[Orphia Nay]

Hilarious thread, everyone! I think I laughed my brains out, because I have no contributions at this time. My favourite so far:

After conducting a series of thought experiments which I refuse to share with anyone, I have determined a new CT law: E=MC^2

Where; E= Everything.
M= Masons
C= Conspiracy
^2= Times a lot.

:dl:

[GlennB]

“Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science.” -Charles Darwin

Excellent quote, though I mostly like to read your posts to have a laugh at your sig :)

[Anti-sophist]

Excellent quote, though I mostly like to read your posts to have a laugh at your sig :)

Yea, I've been slacking keeping it updated with new material. You just reminded me of reading something so incredibly stupid earlier today that it spurred me to finally add a new one.

[defaultdotxbe]

Yea, I've been slacking keeping it updated with new material. You just reminded me of reading something so incredibly stupid earlier today that it spurred me to finally add a new one.
you shoudl come by the SLC forums, stundie posts gold every day, heyleroys been putting a lot in the 2007 nomination thread

i got one of him saying aluminum oxide isnt a product of thermite, lol

[PerryLogan]

If you watch a YouTube clip often enough, you will see the whole plan.

[Firestone]

The Law of Corroborating Evidence.

A scientific claim is true if and only if there is no calculation available confirming it.

For example, this statement is true: “I believe the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door, this intense grid, and the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing the screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting.” (De Martini).

The NIST-report is wrong, because it takes ages to read 10000 pages (let alone understand them).

[Crazy Chainsaw]

The Laws of physics and principals of Reality, do not apply to those able to do extensive rapid hand waving.
Making anything that Come from their empty head obviously consistent with the effects of energy within the energy field known as the Known universe, whether it is logical or not. Simply by the act of thinking them the truthers make their Ideas fact.

OOps sorry truthers are not thinkers they lack that abillity it seems that was as nutty a theory as controlled Demoltion, I can not think why I even proposed it.

[JonnyFive]

No, that would be "A = B, b*tch!"

My bad. I haven't taken "Conspiracy Math III: Concepts and Proofs" yet, sorry.

If you watch a YouTube clip often enough, you will see the whole plan.

I believe the formula you're looking for is Y x T = U where Y is the number of videos watched, T is the number of hours spent watching, and U is a factor of understanding which is totally meaningless and approaches infinity.

[anticonspiracy911]

Expressing no emotion over a fictional story= NWO shill
Loose Change Forums * The Alex Jones Show/James Fetzer-Judy Wood= THE TROOF!

[PerryLogan]

If you keep saying "Everyone is waking up" enough times, it will become true. A little pot enhances this.

[anticonspiracy911]

Alex just said World War V is underway. But how is this possible? Well, according to Alex Jones:


World War III= 9/11
World War IV= Iraq War
World War V= TROOF MOVEMENT!

[anticonspiracy911]

NEW CT Law: Send novices to Google Video and have them type in "TerrorStorm" for their 101 course.

[anticonspiracy911]

Not liking Alex Jones' demeanor= Are you a government operative?

[Firestone]

NEW CT Law: Send novices to Google Video and have them type in "TerrorStorm" for their 101 course.:dl: (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2746328922309359336&q=terrorstrom)

[anticonspiracy911]

New CT stat: 90% of the American public is ignorant to the installation of despotism in America.

[JonnyFive]

World War III= 9/11

It gets even better:

9/11 = 0.818181...

8 + 1 = 9

Taking that out to an arbitrary number of significant figures and doing some stuff you're not supposed to do in standard algebra:

0.818181 = 0.999

Flip that upside-down for some reason:

666!

By that, we can see that 9/11 = 666.

Also, examine the phrase "George Walker Bush!!"

Each part has six characters (including the two exclamation points for some reason): 6 6 6.

So we can complete our proof: 9/11 = 666 = "George Walker Bush!!"

It's a conspiracy!

[anticonspiracy911]

:dl: (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2746328922309359336&q=terrorstrom)
It's true. I'm back in the Infowars chat today to get new laws and stats, and I'm playing like a newcomer and it's working beautifully. I'm telling everyone Alex Jones bothers me with his obnoxious attitude and now two CTers are fighting. One of them is calling the other an ass for telling me to leave. It's beautiful work. :D

[anticonspiracy911]

It gets even better:

9/11 = 0.818181...

8 + 1 = 9

Taking that out to an arbitrary number of significant figures and doing some stuff you're not supposed to do in standard algebra:

0.818181 = 0.999

Flip that upside-down for some reason:

666!

By that, we can see that 9/11 = 666.

Also, examine the phrase "George Walker Bush!!"

Each part has six characters (including the two exclamation points for some reason): 6 6 6.

So we can complete our proof: 9/11 = 666 = "George Walker Bush!!"

It's a conspiracy!

Hahahahaha, good work.


Hahaha now some of them are telling me to go to Google Video and watch 9/11 Mysteries, as well as some of the conspiracy nutjob radio shows. The Loose Change brothers aren't doing too well these days apparently.

[anticonspiracy911]

I love how the CTers purge arrogance. They're encouraging me to ignore a CT. How thoughtful of them.

[anticonspiracy911]

Reaction to Screw 9/11 Mysteries:


"They made a debunking video? Wow."
"The truth movement ***** with a lot of powerful people."
"My suggestion is to watch both and make a rational decision and believe what you feel is true."

[JonnyFive]

Hahaha now some of them are telling me to go to Google Video and watch 9/11 Mysteries, as well as some of the conspiracy nutjob radio shows. The Loose Change brothers aren't doing too well these days apparently.

My absolute favorite claim in 9/11 Mysteries is the idea that the smoke and dust from the WTC collapse was a pyroclastic flow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyroclastic_flow). They conveniently ignore the facts that:

1)A pyroclastic flow is hot enough to burn a human alive, and no one was burned alive by the dust from the WTC collapse (hell, 9/11 Mysteries shows video taken from within the dust cloud they refer to as a pyroclastic flow).

2)A pyroclastic flow has never, in the history of ever, been observed during a controlled demolition.

I think it perfectly highlights the kind of ignorance that's so popular in the "Truth" movement. Damn the facts, they have a point to make!

[anticonspiracy911]

My absolute favorite claim in 9/11 Mysteries is the idea that the smoke and dust from the WTC collapse was a pyroclastic flow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyroclastic_flow). They conveniently ignore the facts that:

1)A pyroclastic flow is hot enough to burn a human alive, and no one was burned alive by the dust from the WTC collapse (hell, 9/11 Mysteries shows video taken from within the dust cloud they refer to as a pyroclastic flow).

2)A pyroclastic flow has never, in the history of ever, been observed during a controlled demolition.

I think it perfectly highlights the kind of ignorance that's so popular in the "Truth" movement. Damn the facts, they have a point to make!

It's like listening to a high school dropout explain to you quantum mechanics. Hell, my former stepdad was a high school dropout, but at least he has more sense than the CTers to know that the buildings pancaked from the tremendous burden of the weight of the buildings.

[Tirdun]

Ah, but "pyroclastic flow" has two perfect features:
1- It sounds scientific and complicated, thus by using it in a sentence you've tripled your pseudoscience score.
2- It takes a long time to explain, so a debunker will have to spend precious time arguing/answering one question while the troother's other 9 go unanswered. Then when the debunker takes a breath, the troother can fire off 10 more questions.

[anticonspiracy911]

Mission accomplished! :D Banned for the 2nd time on Infowars. This time for repeating the mantra of the truth:


"ALEX JONES IS THE REAL TERRORIST!"

[anticonspiracy911]

Ah, but "pyroclastic flow" has two perfect features:
1- It sounds scientific and complicated, thus by using it in a sentence you've tripled your pseudoscience score.
2- It takes a long time to explain, so a debunker will have to spend precious time arguing/answering one question while the troother's other 9 go unanswered. Then when the debunker takes a breath, the troother can fire off 10 more questions.

Now remember:

Pyroclastic flows only happen in volcanos and controlled demolitions. :D It's a fact and 9/11 Mysteries proved it. :rolleyes:

[joesixpack]

Conspiracy theorists first law; Extrordinary claims require extrordinary proof to disprove.

[JonnyFive]

Ah, but "pyroclastic flow" has two perfect features:
1- It sounds scientific and complicated, thus by using it in a sentence you've tripled your pseudoscience score.
2- It takes a long time to explain, so a debunker will have to spend precious time arguing/answering one question while the troother's other 9 go unanswered. Then when the debunker takes a breath, the troother can fire off 10 more questions.

I was going to disagree with point 2 on the grounds that it only takes a couple minutes to explain what it is in simple terms, but then I remembered who we're talking about and my objective was pulverized like the concrete when the evil government CD charges went off.

Mission accomplished! :D Banned for the 2nd time on Infowars. This time for repeating the mantra of the truth:


"ALEX JONES IS THE REAL TERRORIST!"

Well, what do you expect? It's his self gratifying message board. If you were just spamming that slogan, that's no good though. You've got to get banned for doing heinous things like posting evidence against their theories, or asking them to provide evidence of their theories.

I see they're starting such amazing topics over there such as "24 = Illuminati Terror Propaganda".

[Aggs]

The news is controlled, unless you like the story.
The government is lying, unless you like what they're saying.


Dang, you beat me to it!

How about:

"A chain is only as strong as the links that it doesn't have."