Beer For The Homeless

[Solitaire]

Beer For The Homeless (http://www.beerforthehomeless.com/)
This is so wrong... So very wrong.

[Segnosaur]

Originally posted by Synchronicity
This is so wrong... So very wrong.

Only if its American beer.

[Dancing David]

It is funny, but sheesh, has the guy ever been to a homeless shelter. there are very good reasons to not let them drink there. They drink right outside any way.

Funny but a condecending jerk.

There is enough trouble keeping epople from fighting at a shelter, just add alcohol..

[BobK]

Maybe they just hand it out in the morning as a hangover cure.

[Tony]

They should be given rat poison instead.

[Dancing David]

Spoken like someone who has never been a paycheck from the streets, most homeles people are children. Why should we give children rat poison, this sounds like the protestant ethic to me.

If you don't have health insurance and short term disability, you can end up homeless.

There are so many reason people end up homeless. So lets just give them all rat poison shall we. Better yet lets send the to Guyana first.

I hope that none of your freinds or family ever has the misfortune to rely upon your compassion.

[Tony]

I think its funny you took me seriously.

[Tez]

actually i have on several occasions given beer to the homeless.

Very hard when youre walking home with a case of beer not to give one to someone who asks - if you can do that youre a harder ass than I...

[Tony]

I give cigarettes to homeless people all the time. One time in New Orleans, I smoked a joint with a homeless bum.

[Dancing David]

I offer them a dollar if they tell me it is for beer, so you wren't serious, hard to tell from your typing.

[shemp]

Are there no workhouses for the poor?

Seriously, I would donate if they promise to give out soemthing good like Sam Adams. PBR is horseshite. It's a secret plan to kill the homeless.

[Baker]

Originally posted by Dancing David
Spoken like someone who has never been a paycheck from the streets, most homeles people are children.


Can you show me the stats that claim most homeless people are children?

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by shemp
Are there no workhouses for the poor?

Seriously, I would donate if they promise to give out soemthing good like Sam Adams. PBR is horseshite. It's a secret plan to kill the homeless.


We should throw them into incinerators to power electricity generators, thereby solving two problems at once.

Whats PBR?

[voidx]

PBR = Pabst Blue Ribbon *yuck*

Some may be homeless because of problems with alcohol, you have no real way of knowing, you might be exacberating the problem. I'm sort of torn on this issue. Here in Calgary we have quite a large homeless problem. Their main answer was to build this 4-story monstrosity of a Hilton hotel for the homeless, in order to provide shelter for the growing homeless problem. Guess what, it got worse. We started getting homeless people from all over the province. Why? Because now we can provide shelter for like 4 times as many as before. This is not a valid solution in my eye. A certain percentage of people will by nature, or mental condition always be homeless and these people will always need assistance, that's fine. The rest merely need a base to start from to get some basic job, and help them get over whatever issues are leading them into homelessness so they can support themselves. I just see several examples of people going...we need more facilities to house homeless people, to which I say wrong, you need more facilities to get homeless people back on their feet quickly, with enough minimum income to support themselves with say the help of subsidized housing or apartments. More storage for homeless people means...well...more homeless people :rolleyes:

[Segnosaur]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london

We should throw them into incinerators to power electricity generators, thereby solving two problems at once.


Unless of course you have to worry about Kyoto. How much greenhouse gas will the incineration of homeless people release?

[Captain_Snort]

Alcoholism is a disease like any other

In the case of many of the homeless I know (That sounds condescenting) it is a means of escape. I have been alcohol dependant, but to see such a serious problem dealt with by such flippancy here really annoys me.

Some of you posting here claim to be christians, can I ask you to say to yourself next time you see someone homeless

'There for the grace of god go I'

Or is your religion what you want it to be?

[Dancing David]

Originally posted by Baker

Can you show me the stats that claim most homeless people are children?

I would recommend the National Coalition Against Homelessness.

But I will be up front about the issues in determining who is homeless.

There are various levels of being undomiciled, there is the one most people think about,
-living on the street, or in a box under the overpass.

But then there are those who have shelter but not a residence, and this is where the fights about how to count 'homelessness' begin.
Most people would agree that someone sleeping in thier car is homeless, unless they made a deliberate choice to live in thier vehicle.
Some people would think that sleeping in a tent because you can't get an apartment is homeless. (Especialy if they are not sleeping at a campground but next to the guy in the box, but not under the overpass)
Then there are the people who sleep ' someplace not generally considered to be a place for sleeping', such as railway cars, abandoned buildings, bus stations, utility rooms of apartment buildings and car parks.

Then we get to the one that causes the most debate and discussion about who is 'homeless', the 'doubling up' phenomena.
You loose your apartment so you go live with your aunt and all the people in your family stay in the her dining room. Or because of the other family members at her house there are multiple shifts of people sharing the same bed or sofa.
Or you rotate beween family and friends, staying at one place for a while and another place for while depending on the generosity of the people and the safety of the situation.

These are the issues that 'liberal' social workers fight about all the time when it comes to who you actually count as 'homeless', it it the lack of shelter that makes you homeless or is it the lack of residence that makes you homeless.

I will try to post links. Some show that 75% of homeless individuals are homeless but keep in mind the wide range of 'homelessness'.

This one shows there are 1.35 million homeless children
or 35% of the population.NCH Fact sheets (http://www.nationalhomeless.org/facts.html)

This links leads to links on homeless children and issues
Homeforthehomeless links (http://www.homesforthehomeless.com/links.html)

[Dancing David]

Originally posted by voidx
PBR = Pabst Blue Ribbon *yuck*

A certain percentage of people will by nature, or mental condition always be homeless and these people will always need assistance, that's fine. The rest merely need a base to start from to get some basic job, and help them get over whatever issues are leading them into homelessness so they can support themselves. I just see several examples of people going...we need more facilities to house homeless people, to which I say wrong, you need more facilities to get homeless people back on their feet quickly, with enough minimum income to support themselves with say the help of subsidized housing or apartments. More storage for homeless people means...well...more homeless people :rolleyes:

Very cogent, are you a social worker?