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billiefan2000
5th July 2003, 09:45 AM
http://www.larryburkett.org/default.asp?&aid=SCHOM

EdipisReks
5th July 2003, 06:24 PM
good.

Max560
5th July 2003, 08:06 PM
...and in passing, was devoured by Cthulhu.

triadboy
5th July 2003, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by billiefan2000
http://www.larryburkett.org/default.asp?&aid=SCHOM

So when Jesus gives an Xian cancer, he's bringing him home. But when Jesus gives an Atheist cancer, he's giving him what he deserves. Weird.

EdipisReks
6th July 2003, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Max560
...and in passing, was devoured by Cthulhu.

if we could only be so lucky.

Max560
6th July 2003, 12:10 PM
Luck is not required. Cthulhu will devour the lucky and the unlucky.

Darwin
6th July 2003, 01:58 PM
"So when Jesus gives an Xian cancer, he's bringing him home. But when Jesus gives an Atheist cancer, he's giving him what he deserves. Weird."

And cancer concerns rudimentary pseudogenes going off.
Prankster God.

Besides such factors,may he still rest in peace (not much choise I assume)

Roadtoad
6th July 2003, 02:20 PM
I know most folks here don't know much about Larry Burkett, but let me clue you in on some of what he was about:

Burkett started Christian Financial Concepts, primarily to help Christians realize that how they handled their finances was as much a part of their testimony as anything else. In other words, if you were going to call yourself a believer, you had an obligation to get your financial house in order.

In doing so, you would then have the resources to help others, and you wouldn't be a burden on the rest of society. This would make it possible for you to have a greater impact on others in your community.

My wife and I sat through a seminar produced by Burkett, and learned a great deal. It took a great deal of time, but we did, in fact, manage to get our finances straightened out, and were able to clear out a great deal of bad debt in our lives. And while this could easily have been done through a secular program, the fact that Burkett worked with people for whom excuses run rampant, and the fact that he shattered those excuses, made him a rare gem in Evangelical circles.

Burkett was also one of the leading forces behind the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability. This was a group that came out of the PTL scandal, and helped to bring an end to many (not all) of the abuses by televangelists.

Burkett was perhaps one of the most low key individuals among Evangelicals. He seemed to genuinely enjoy working in the background. He was, as the link pointed out, a very compassionate individual. A friend of mine who met Burkett found the soft-spoken man to be one of the kindest people he'd ever met.

I'm going to miss this man. I owe him, and the ministry he started, a lot. He was a rare individual among the Evangelical community, and one would readily wish that others would follow his dignified, honest, and compassionate lead. That they will not further emphasizes just how rare a man he was.

(And yes, he'd probably have found the Cthulhu ref funny.)

billiefan2000
7th July 2003, 09:42 AM
I wish his group would deal with the TBN crowds who are being abusive today.

Juanita Bynum and Kim Clement and Benny Hinn and Jesse Duplantis and Jack Van Impe and to some extent Rod Parsley who seems to be cleaning up his act all of a sudden.

Nyarlathotep
7th July 2003, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by Max560
Luck is not required. Cthulhu will devour the lucky and the unlucky.

I don't know, I think that running into Cthulhu in the first place qualifies as pretty darn unlucky.

hgc
7th July 2003, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by triadboy


So when Jesus gives an Xian cancer, he's bringing him home. But when Jesus gives an Atheist cancer, he's giving him what he deserves. Weird.
Everyone gets what they deserve.

blackadder65738
7th July 2003, 11:45 AM
He wrote a book about the coming economic collapse a few years ago, saying that when the deficit reached a certain point the US economy would go down the sh*tter. Of course, like everything else these people predict, it didn't happen. The Bushies have driven the deficit well beyond the mark he set, and nothing. Oh well, another snake oil man out of the picture. Why couldn't that have been Pat Robertson or Rev. Moon? :mad:

triadboy
7th July 2003, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by hgc

Everyone gets what they deserve.

That's just your New York attitude coming out. :)

MartinGibbs
7th July 2003, 02:15 PM
blackadder:

"But that milk jug isn't broken."

"You really do walk into these things, don't you?"

blackadder65738
7th July 2003, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by MartinGibbs
blackadder:

"But that milk jug isn't broken."

"You really do walk into these things, don't you?"

I love you. But I thought your name was Craig Anderson, Systems Analyst!

MartinGibbs
7th July 2003, 03:32 PM
Ah, not today.








"MACBETH!!!!"

Nucular
7th July 2003, 04:53 PM
"... you ride a horse rather less well than another horse would ..."

Oh Blackadder, are you the scarlet pimpernel?

Roadtoad
7th July 2003, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by billiefan2000
I wish his group would deal with the TBN crowds who are being abusive today.

Juanita Bynum and Kim Clement and Benny Hinn and Jesse Duplantis and Jack Van Impe and to some extent Rod Parsley who seems to be cleaning up his act all of a sudden.

Ain't gonna happen. For one thing, Burkett was classy enough to continue to do what he did best, and that was help people with their personal finances. He didn't need to get into that mess.

Secondly, even IF his group went after Hinn and crew, Hinn would still continue to spew his convoluted filth. This is part of the fruit of Jimmy Swaggart's act of arrogance when he was caught with a hooker. When he refused to leave the pulpit after he was thoroughly disgraced, he opened the door for Bynum, Clement, Hinn, Copeland, and crew. If you think you've seen false prophets in the past, you ain't seen NOTHIN' yet!

MartinGibbs
8th July 2003, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by Nucular
"... you ride a horse rather less well than another horse would ..."

Oh Blackadder, are you the scarlet pimpernel?

Absolutely NOT, sir."

blackadder65738
8th July 2003, 06:46 AM
Originally posted by Roadtoad


Ain't gonna happen. For one thing, Burkett was classy enough to continue to do what he did best, and that was help people with their personal finances. He didn't need to get into that mess.

Look, quit defending Burkett like this. He came up with a little scam wherein you got your financial house in order, but the plan included putting a percentage of your income into his ministry every month as a "tithe". And I don't see how he was better than Hinn et. al. since he was on with Pat Robertson selling his scam. Please!

Roadtoad
8th July 2003, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by blackadder65738


Look, quit defending Burkett like this. He came up with a little scam wherein you got your financial house in order, but the plan included putting a percentage of your income into his ministry every month as a "tithe". And I don't see how he was better than Hinn et. al. since he was on with Pat Robertson selling his scam. Please!

Ever heard of Consumer Credit Counseling Services? We used their services rather than Crown. We paid a service fee. Same deal. If you're using the service, I think you owe something for it, whether it's called a tithe or a fee or a bribe...

I wasn't aware of the Robertson connection. Any links, or info? This would be rather galling, considering Robertson's continued swan dive into the compost.

blackadder65738
9th July 2003, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by Roadtoad
Ever heard of Consumer Credit Counseling Services? We used their services rather than Crown. We paid a service fee. Same deal. If you're using the service, I think you owe something for it, whether it's called a tithe or a fee or a bribe...

I'm afraid there's a huge difference between paying a service fee and giving Burkett's organization 10% of your income FOREVER.

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I wasn't aware of the Robertson connection. Any links, or info? This would be rather galling, considering Robertson's continued swan dive into the compost. [/QUOTE]

All I have is my sayso that I watched him on 700 Club. Now, he was talking about his ******** book "The Coming Economic Collapse", not this financial thing. But he seemed pretty chummy with Pat. Not like they had just met or anything. For what it's worth. I probably don't sound good going out of my way to slam a dead guy, but I do believe he was a scam artist, taking money from people for nothing, but I see it in light of the book I mentioned, which was pure hogwash, so I regard it as stealing to sell it for money. OTOH, he might have believed what he wrote in that book, but if so, he was a completely softheaded git.

Roadtoad
9th July 2003, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by blackadder65738


I'm afraid there's a huge difference between paying a service fee and giving Burkett's organization 10% of your income FOREVER.

All I have is my sayso that I watched him on 700 Club. Now, he was talking about his ******** book "The Coming Economic Collapse", not this financial thing. But he seemed pretty chummy with Pat. Not like they had just met or anything. For what it's worth. I probably don't sound good going out of my way to slam a dead guy, but I do believe he was a scam artist, taking money from people for nothing, but I see it in light of the book I mentioned, which was pure hogwash, so I regard it as stealing to sell it for money. OTOH, he might have believed what he wrote in that book, but if so, he was a completely softheaded git.

I missed out on his "Economic Collapse" book. I see most crap like that the same way I see a stopped clock: Two times out of every 24 hours, they might get it right.

As far as the 700 Club goes, hell, when you're on TV, you might as well get chummy with the host. It makes for better viewing if everyone is civil.

I also wasn't aware that he was demanding 10% from people forever. I would DEFINITELY have objections to that. Source?

The Central Scrutinizer
9th July 2003, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by billiefan2000
http://www.larryburkett.org/default.asp?&aid=SCHOM

Who?

ntech
10th July 2003, 11:56 AM
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