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The Silver Shadow
26th January 2007, 10:28 AM
The Science for Peace Student's Association at the University of Toronto is showing Loose Change 2nd Ed. Tuesday January 30th from 7-9 PM. I won't be able to attend the screening due to class. It's being shown in Room 179 of University College, 15 King's College Circle (If you happen to be in Toronto during that time). Now, hoping that they will truly look at this film scientifically, I was wondering if any of you JREFers, who happen to be in Toronto during this time would be able to attend the screening, since it's open to everyone. Also, I'm wondering if any of you are able to fire off an e-mail to the echelons of this organization with the scientific facts that this film seems to miss.
http://scienceforpeace.sa.utoronto.ca/
The website doesn't seem to be updated, but I have the poster, and I'll scan the poster later on.
HeyLeroy
26th January 2007, 11:25 AM
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The Silver Shadow
26th January 2007, 11:48 AM
Could you give me some sources to send over to this group through my university e-mail? I'm thinking of putting my e-mail as such:
To whom it may concern:
I noticed your poster around campus regarding the screening of Loose Change 2nd edition. I was curious if there would be a discussion of the film after the screening due to the false speculation that this film puts in. Also, you might have read this, but here are some critiques and scientific evidence that the film misses.
Sincerely,
SS
Arus808
26th January 2007, 11:52 AM
Or you simply could link it to the Screw Loose Change Readers Guide and google respository and have them look over that and decide of showing LC is actually worth it. OR have htem consider in showing Screw Loose Change right after the show of LC.
A W Smith
26th January 2007, 11:55 AM
with a student organization named "The Science for Peace Student's Association" They are probably more into the truthiness aspect of things more than fact.
The Silver Shadow
26th January 2007, 12:04 PM
I was just looking at the list of the executive, and Paul Hamel is the president. The problem with that is that he was my prof for my global health and human rights course last term. I know him and I'm not sure how to explain this film to him. He is also a medical researcher here.
The Silver Shadow
26th January 2007, 12:18 PM
I sent an e-mail over to my former prof. He knows me, so he should at least listen to me.
Hello,
I saw your poster for the film screening of "Loose Change: 2nd Edition". I was wondering that after the film, will there be a discussion of the speculation and allegations which the film makes with regards to the events on September 11th? I don't want the film to be censored, but I would like it if there was more dialogue so that the audience could speak about.
Also, I am wondering if you looked into the rebuttal of the film, shown here at
http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html
Thank you for your consideration, and have a good weekend.
SS
Pardalis
26th January 2007, 12:20 PM
I sent an e-mail over to my former prof.
You say "prof" too? :D
maccy
26th January 2007, 01:51 PM
with a student organization named "The Science for Peace Student's Association" They are probably more into the truthiness aspect of things more than fact.
Here's a paper from their website that includes some pretty troofy stuff:
An acute example of blocking out the defining elements of this evident continuity of fact
and meaning is that all U.S. air defences at the most central level were coincidentally down on
September 11, 2001 in precise accord with (1), (2) and (3). This connection is as important and
demonstrable as any could be for history, but it is nevertheless consistently excluded from the
contents of consciousness in all public commentary, and Left discourse itself - the tip of the deeper
disorder of the RGM that we do not yet suspect..19 In fact, there was no attempt to achieve any
U.S. air-defense intervention with the rogue 9-11 planes until after two jumbo jets had hit different
buildings of the World Trade Center in leisurely succession and a third plane or missile had hit a
just-vacated wing of the Pentagon - all of this long after the four known and separately hijacked
planes had rerouted and flown around unimpeded within the most heavily defended airspace in the
world for well over an hour altogether with none disturbed by any sign of defense reaction until
after all three buildings had been hit.The lead idea of a “catastrophic and catalyzing event” to expedite desired geostrategic control
over vast regions of formerly public-owned oilfields which were no longer within or protected by
the Soviet Union was simply not discussed. No-one appeared to notice how amidst all the disasters
of the Iraq occupation that the master strategy had strikingly achieved all of its declared pre-9-
11 objectives. The through-line of meaning - seizure, control and restructuring of the routes and
sources of the vast and publicly owned oil resources of Central Asia (“the Afghanistan War”) and
the Middle East (“the Iraq War”) - remained unseeable as the reason for 9-11.http://scienceforpeace.sa.utoronto.ca/Essays_Briefs/McMurtry/McMurtry-9-11.pdf pp4-5
The scientist who wrote this is a Philosophy Professor.
jhunter1163
26th January 2007, 03:08 PM
Doesn't LashL live in Toronto? Maybe she could make it.. and bring a camera. That'd be instant YouTube gold, a lawyer against a bunch of Twoofers. C'mon, LashL... pleeeeeeease... *buffs LashL's shoes with his hair*
MarkyX
26th January 2007, 04:10 PM
Great, another reason to move to Alberta
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