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babazaroni
28th January 2007, 11:58 AM
Christophera thinks this pic shows the concrete core of the south tower:
http://amanzafar.no-ip.com/WTC/wtc41.JPG
Is that the Millenium Hotel?
If not, what building is that?
Cl1mh4224rd
28th January 2007, 12:17 PM
It's definitely part of the tower. Anything behind it is obscured by smoke, as you can see by the looking at the taller building to the immediate right of the collapse.
babazaroni
28th January 2007, 12:26 PM
It's definitely part of the tower. Anything behind it is obscured by smoke, as you can see by the looking at the taller building to the immediate right of the collapse.
That's also a possibilty. If so I did not realize that such a huge portion of the core remained for so long. I thought only slivers of core columns stood for a while before falling. If so, then this easily debunks the CD and free-fall claims.
The Silver Shadow
28th January 2007, 12:39 PM
Quite true, if there really was a CD, then the core would've fallen with the rest of the building and wouldn't have stayed standing for the little bit of time that it did...
Gravy
28th January 2007, 12:59 PM
Judging from how the smoke dissipates in the sequence of photos that that shot is part of, I believe it shows dark smoke that's been drawn down by the collapse. That effect was seen in both collapses. The "form" changes as the wind blows to the south. AFAIK, a large portion of the south tower core did not remain standing for that long. In footage shot from the east, we see a portion of the core standing for a few seconds only.
babazaroni
28th January 2007, 01:46 PM
The Millenium Hotel or another building theory could be easily disproved with another photo from this area after all the smoke has cleared. I'll look around.
Edit: Well its not a building. Here's another shot from the same sequence:
http://amanzafar.no-ip.com/WTC/wtc43.JPG
I should have realized it was a series and looked at the rest. It's easy for me to understand how the delusional unnamed one could think that was the concrete core, if I thought it might be a building.
babazaroni
28th January 2007, 05:45 PM
The Doc uses this picture at 19:44 of Screw 9/11 Mysteries to show the core was not vaporized.
Would be nice to see from another angle, but this is probably as good as it gets.
gumboot
29th January 2007, 01:54 AM
I don't know about the south tower, but a significant chunk of the entire north tower core, at least half the building height, remained standing for 5 - 10 seconds after the rest of the building had collapsed.
I would imagine a similar scenario occured with the South Tower, however because the impact point was lower and the exterior columns fell more down (the north tower exterior columns quite distinctly peeled outwards) I imagine a far smaller portion of the core remained standing after the floors and exterior columns had fallen.
-Gumboot
CurtC
29th January 2007, 07:24 AM
I think the South Tower had a core section which was nearly the full width and depth standing for a few seconds. I've seen it in videos from more than one angle. In some, it's hard to make it out because of the dust.
The North Tower had tall slivers of core standing for a few seconds.
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