View Full Version : Berlusconi to be the last Rotating EU President? Wow!
billiefan2000
7th July 2003, 08:44 AM
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=422071
{{So is Berlusconi to be the last one? His term ends this December and a new country/President is to take over. It seems that the idea of having a semi-permanent President is gaining popularity fast. Things may get really interesting in the EU between now and December!}}
I guess the REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE,I mean the EU is getting off to a fast start at making their ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT a REALITY.
Drifterman
7th July 2003, 09:41 AM
WTF is wrong with the notion of one world government? I sure as spit would like my vote counted against George Dubya Bush, because his silly policies sure as spit affect me. In a globalised world there needs to be a globalised framework for government to act. A federation with common courts would be a good place to start.
The EU is not a revived Roman Empire, because is has been formed through the consent of democratically elected governments, and the Roman Empire built by conquest.
The two are not remotely comparable.
The Roman Empire contained North Africa, and much of what we now describe as the Middle East. It's population was far smaller than that of the current EU members.
The Roman Empire was built and maintained by violence, down to the adulation poured upon gladiators.
The European Union was formed as a preventative measure against violence, in the form of another European total war.
billiefan2000
7th July 2003, 09:52 AM
so you are saying what is said at:
http://www.bible-prophecy.com/roman.htm
http://www.insiidetrack.com/EUnion.htm
http://www.tnnonline.net/tribnews/europe/
http://www.raptureready.com/faq/faq187.html
http://www.patriarchywebsite.com/prophetic/nations-eu.htm
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/european_union.html
http://www.raptureready.com/rr-eu.html
http://www.euroharvest.org/custom3.html
are all wrong somehow and while I would agree that a 1 World Government is okay,what would stop COMMUNIST or SOCALIST LEADERS from taking over it and enslaving the world.
Also,isnt the 1 WORLD GOVERNMENT idea something that will happen when the ANTI-CHRIST comes to power?
Upchurch
7th July 2003, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by billiefan2000
so you are saying what is said at:
http://www.bible-prophecy.com/roman.htm
http://www.insiidetrack.com/EUnion.htm
http://www.tnnonline.net/tribnews/europe/
http://www.raptureready.com/faq/faq187.html
http://www.patriarchywebsite.com/prophetic/nations-eu.htm
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/european_union.html
http://www.raptureready.com/rr-eu.html
http://www.euroharvest.org/custom3.html
are all wrong somehow
I don't know about the rest of the stuff, but I'll step out on a limb and say that the above is more or less incorrect. Edited to add: Based on the fact that these are all based on Biblical prohesy which is inconsistant and unreliable.
Also,isnt the 1 WORLD GOVERNMENT idea something that will happen when the ANTI-CHRIST comes to power? And who is the Anti-Christ?
headscratcher4
7th July 2003, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Upchurch
I don't know about the rest of the stuff, but I'll step out on a limb and say that the above is more or less incorrect.
And who is the Anti-Christ?
Well, if you believe in prophesy, the only and inescapeable conclusion that you can reach is that the anti-chirst is (long drum roll.....
): George W. Bush! (though, not being a prophesy believing man, myself, I tend to believe it is that nasty Brit/Aussie on American Idol...)
:p
corplinx
7th July 2003, 10:11 AM
Someone has been drinking the Jack Van Impe koolaid.
Drifterman
7th July 2003, 10:40 AM
Billiefan2000 - Chill out kid!
What do you have against Communism? Bit of a knee-jerk reaction. It seems a rather equitable solution to the world's problems, if you discount the fact that it is based on a poor understanding of the nature of humanity.
I gently remind you that Communism, as hinted at by Marx, has never been attained. Dictatorships and police states have claimed to be communist.
Personally, I don't believe the communist ideal can ever be attained - because it is a state derived from a faith based belief system which is rather similar to Christianity in its exclusion of others.
As for the anti-christ - please define what you mean, and then, in your own words (no links to other websites - I am interested in your insights) tell me why you consider its existence to be probable. Quotes from scripture are inadmissable, as they are assertions with no evidence to back them up, and would be laughed out of a court of law.
billiefan2000
7th July 2003, 01:45 PM
Communism killed 100 Million People.
headscratcher4:
George W. Bush cant be the Anti-Christ cause the Anti-Christ comes out of the Revived Roman Empire or EU,so it is impossible for Bush to fit the description of being the AC.
Lord Emsworth
7th July 2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by billiefan2000
[url]I guess the REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE,I mean the EU is getting off to a fast start at making their ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT a REALITY.
So, why not just declare war on us?
billiefan2000
7th July 2003, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Lord Emsworth
So, why not just declare war on us?
Emsworth,if the EU declared War on the USA,it would wake a lot of people who love the USA up to the EU'S Sinister Agenda.
Lord Emsworth
7th July 2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by billiefan2000
Emsworth,if the EU declared War on the USA,it would wake a lot of people who love the USA up to the EU'S Sinister Agenda.
You misunderstood me!
I am from the EU and I'm really getting sick of you and your hate-sowing rapture clowns
Edited to add:
Greetings from hell…
Drifterman
7th July 2003, 09:25 PM
Lord Emsworth declared:
I am from the EU and I'm really getting sick of you and your hate-sowing rapture clowns
Heh heh heh! That should be repeated:
Lord Emsworth declared:
I am from the EU and I'm really getting sick of you and your hate-sowing rapture clowns
In fact, it can't be said too often, so:
Lord Emsworth declared:
I am from the EU and I'm really getting sick of you and your hate-sowing rapture clowns
Drifterman
7th July 2003, 09:32 PM
Billiefan2000 originally blurted:
Communism killed 100 Million People
Piffle
Totalitarianism has has been responsible for the deaths of well in excess of 100 Million people. Must I repeat - Communism has never been tested!
You have still failed to respond to the gauntlet clearly placed in front of you:
As for the anti-christ - please define what you mean, and then, in your own words (no links to other websites - I am interested in your insights) tell me why you consider its existence to be probable. Quotes from scripture are inadmissable, as they are assertions with no evidence to back them up, and would be laughed out of a court of law.
Upchurch
8th July 2003, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by billiefan2000
George W. Bush cant be the Anti-Christ cause the Anti-Christ comes out of the Revived Roman Empire or EU,so it is impossible for Bush to fit the description of being the AC. I wonder, whoever said that the "Revived Roman Empire" had to come from Europe?
headscratcher4
8th July 2003, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by billiefan2000
Communism killed 100 Million People.
headscratcher4:
George W. Bush cant be the Anti-Christ cause the Anti-Christ comes out of the Revived Roman Empire or EU,so it is impossible for Bush to fit the description of being the AC.
That is exactly what the Devil wants you to think...so the anti-christ can sneak in the back door...:eek:
Drifterman
8th July 2003, 07:39 AM
An increase in poor grammar, atrocious punctuation and typing in caps all herald the coming of the Anti-Christ.
Maybe...:rolleyes:
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