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Nathyn
3rd February 2007, 03:32 AM
Posted on another forum I visit.

Username, "TheTruthPleaseHelp"

It's long, but it's worth reading.

I broke it up into paragraphs (it was originally posted as one long single-paragraph rant)

(I apologize for grammar errors I did not have to read through it)
What you are reading is a secret that people have been trying to stop me from making public for over a year. My attempt to spread what I know has been hampered by the intense cover-up effort and pure disbelief of those who have heard my message. I have uncovered an underground group made up of programmers, hackers, and tradesmen in every level of American infrastructure. This large group of people that have virtually taken over the internet has an openly fascist political mindset. There numbers are deceptively large and they value privacy amongst all things. I have spent the large year obsessively trying to gain bits of information at a time. This group of people uses open source technology to recruit people and communicate. Their use of very futurist technology and even artificial intelligence allows them to gain control of key areas of American culture and filters information to create a false representation of the American people’s belief system. The people are in turn being brainwashed by the false reality that internet information is broadcasting. The changes have been so subtle that no one would ever notice or suspect anything. The “blogs” are a main area this group uses to manipulate people who blog and make browser searches fill up with ideas they promote. I tell you these things as an unwelcome drifter in a secret underground world where I have obsessively been collecting data.

My introduction to this world was by nothing more then chance. The mistakes of one individual in this cult like group opened me up to this world. I discovered a fraudulent website that was purposely misguiding its customer. When I threatened to expose the lie a panic effort to cover-up any proof ensued. During this intense time of a few hours the person was worried enough to send a short email when I demanded he communicate with me. Afterwards he cleverly sends a virus to attack my computer. However his mistake was the email, I used his email address to search out prior and present conversations he took part in. While he was still worried about his personal problems back at the website I move to a different house (computer IP) and read post of scams, misuse of people’s information, chats of illegal activity, and communication through code. Then I came to a website where a moderator had all my information spread in 8 or so different threads while other people were sharing ideas to attack me. I then came to a thread that discussed coming to my house to do me harm which dated back to a few day running. The moderator was stalling to come after me that same day. I knew I was in danger and called the police for help. They never came despite my life threatening urgency. My brother and I were forced out of my house when cars started to accumulate right outside my house. My brother and I rush out of my house and tried finding a neighbor at home. The same car would drive by the streets and pull into driveways trapping us. Police then came after my brother and I hid in a neighbor’s garage. Despite my story and my phone calls they arrested me. At the police station I noticed an obvious uncomfortably between the officers. So I then acted as if I knew they were allied with the people that were threatening my life. I knew they had send a officer into my house so my information I had save on my computer would be eliminated if they indeed were allies with these people. So I threatened that I had saved information on a disk and I hid it during my time of panic. This completely changed the mood of the entire police station and they immediately begin discussing ways to deal with the situation. They believed I was more knowledgeable then I actually was and they started talking to each other about what to do. They discussed scenarios outside of charging me with anything to let me off each and keep me silent about their involvement. I was too arrogant and pushed them into having to try something risky. One officer begged me not to publicize his involvement because of prior similar things that had got him in trouble. What they were forced to do was take me to a state hospital and try and make it seem I was crazy. I watched security guards meet them at the door and walk me in. Since I saw the police officers for the scamming scum they were I started immediately drawing attention to them. Their was a select group of people in the hospital that were suspiciously playing devils advocate to my allegations to the point it almost seem likes a protocol response to bully me. I was eventually completely discredited after a stay at a state hospital in which they refused me to tell my story.

After being release I walked back to life as enemy number one. My younger brother had followed some of my paths and became entranced into something he was not ready to understand. His bold posts on websites I told him about from the hospital made him the target of attacks. He was bludgeoned with waves of misinformation, computer hacks, and intimidation tactics. His mind was psychologically attacked by protocol like responses to his privacy threat. Since then he was too brought into the same world I discovered, but unprepared to deal with their psychological aggressive attacks. During my time of uncovering more and more evidence we both were witness to complete surveillance of all aspect of our life. Our phones were tapped; our computers were completely unrelient in spreading information or even making contact with others; ground surveillance at both areas of two separate houses became obvious at times. Most of my threats of spreading the truth were very late at night. During times of intense dispute and uncomfortably I would hear bullet shots outside of my house. My brother was also witness to these gun shots on occasion. Cars would be driving by my house without stop at 3 AM, when the roads are empty in my area even during the day. It was clear to me that I could not make a move without the threat of retaliation. After a while I slowly outwitted them into a false misconception of what I knew and who I’ve told. Not only to have them back off, but also to get some rest and return to my social life. I did not discuss it with my friends. I started reconnecting with all the people who I lost contact with and became a person of disinterest to them.

The experience has left my brother confused and paranoid about what he took part in. While I was left tired and frustrated with my inability to share something so extraordinary with the right people. I have become so familiar with the ways they communicate that it is almost like reading code at times. They discuss me and talk to me as a worthily opponent at times, but keep me at arms length due to distrust of my privacy capabilities.

What I am telling you all is that people you may work with may be part of an underground fascist movement with capabilities that make them virtually unstoppable. State employment is defiantly breached. Cable companies, lawyer firms, big business and many other areas of American Infrastructure may also be tainted by an underground movement to create political and cultural change. I have done nothing but obsessively search the motives, websites, IRC logs, and personally information of anything relevant. I have encountered the same personalities over and over and witness their privacy protective protocol over and over.

The only thing that could hurt them is having it reported to the general public. The people must be told what I have come to know. They must be given a chance to hear what I am saying. I tell you a true story that has changed my life. People must become aware what could be at stake. This group is evil and seeks to obtain power. They recruit the best programmers and hackers with open source programs. They have an understanding of Artificial Intelligence which most people do not know exist. Their technology evolves on its own. They are using open source programs to discover all areas of weakness and security lapses. Our country is facing an attack and no one caries because were so reliant on the internet to get our news. The path is still out there to follow for people who cherish the constitution of the United States. This is my last effort to try and get someone to believe me that something may be going on.
This effort may bring harm to me or my family so you must help me spread this message. My email is XronartestX@aim.com but it is probably being filtered. Please try contacting me or repost this as much as you can.
-Jay MickWhat do you think? Is it legitimate?

The_Fire
3rd February 2007, 04:06 AM
My guess is if you ask this person whom this "secret group" is, you are going to get either "illuminati" or "Free MAsons".
Another board I was on had a similar claim come up a couple of years back. Bogus. Or paranoia. In either case, it's got no foundation in reality.

Nathyn
3rd February 2007, 05:48 AM
UPDATE: He claims that this is the "fake" site secretly being run by an underground fascist conspiracy, which seems to apparently control the world:

http://www.nasioc.com/

He claims that a moderator there named HoratioCaine is in on the conspiracy or something. I PM'd the moderator there to see what they say.

Being that they're clearly in deep with fascist conspirators, I'm sure they'll feed me nothing but lies!

The_Fire
3rd February 2007, 05:56 AM
:dl:

I guess this means that my 'rents are in on it since they drive a Subaru (excellent car btw).

Got a link to the place where he's sprouting this?

Nathyn
3rd February 2007, 06:19 AM
:dl:

I guess this means that my 'rents are in on it since they drive a Subaru (excellent car btw).

Got a link to the place where he's sprouting this?
Right here:
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75765

Although being that he demanded that people repost it on other forums as much as they can, I think it's a safe bet that it's probably on several other forums too.

The_Fire
3rd February 2007, 06:27 AM
So let me get this straight:
Mr. Paranoid bases his claim on a standard spoofed email bot message? And that an ESPN poker site is a front? When did the Subaru site get involved?

ETA: Oh, found it....

Gord_in_Toronto
3rd February 2007, 06:47 AM
I suppose there may be a serious issue here. When does Wooism cross over into insanity?

It seems a very fine line in some cases -- though not this one. ;)

baron
3rd February 2007, 08:35 AM
Schizophrenic in Internet Forum Post Shock Horror!

Wow, what next!?

BillC
3rd February 2007, 08:38 AM
I have done nothing but obsessively search...I don't think we doubt this claim for a moment.

sophia8
3rd February 2007, 09:40 AM
Schizophrenic in Internet Forum Post Shock Horror!

Wow, what next!?
Setting up their own website? (http://www.five.org.uk/)

NobbyNobbs
3rd February 2007, 09:53 AM
This large group of people that have virtually taken over the internet has an openly fascist political mindset. There numbers are deceptively large and they value privacy amongst all things. I have spent the large year obsessively trying to gain bits of information at a time. This group of people uses open source technology to recruit people and communicate. Their use of very futurist technology and even artificial intelligence allows them to gain control of key areas of American culture and filters information to create a false representation of the American people’s belief system. The people are in turn being brainwashed by the false reality that internet information is broadcasting. The changes have been so subtle that no one would ever notice or suspect anything. The “blogs” are a main area this group uses to manipulate people who blog and make browser searches fill up with ideas they promote. I tell you these things as an unwelcome drifter in a secret underground world where I have obsessively been collecting data.

So, this group that controls the internet allowed him to post his findings on a forum? Someone's not doing their job right......

The_Fire
3rd February 2007, 11:22 AM
Yes, someone really should be fired...


You know, this is the sort of thing which would never happen if Illuminati Cabal North, lead by...well me, had more to do with the everyday running of the world.........

Bubblefish
3rd February 2007, 12:11 PM
What do you think? Is it legitimate?

My gut instinct is this is an ARPG.

I certainly enjoyed the theatre of it, it was perhaps written tongue in cheek, from the point of view of someone who is playing the role of a old world, old media, old politics sort of fella coming to grips with the changing world around him.

There are a few key words used which allude to this for me. The refrence to people using 'Open Source' and blogs which rally political support for more progressive causes.

casebro
3rd February 2007, 01:16 PM
"even paranoiacs have enemies" is true. But you can tell the scale of the craziness by the size of the 'enemy'. Huge conspiracy?...

steve s
3rd February 2007, 02:35 PM
From the OP
However his mistake was the email, I used his email address to search out prior and present conversations he took part in.

So these hackers and programmers are both all-powerful and grossly incompetent. Where have we seen that before?

Steve S.

Nathyn
5th February 2007, 12:45 AM
Yeah, the guy is still ranting on Political Crossfire. There's several pages of delightful commentary on the link posted earlier.

I invited one of the mods from nasioc.com and she explained that the guy's just some random fruitcake that's been stalking some of their users.

I thought you guys would appreciate this quote:
I dont know if I would believe a story like this before my experiece so all skeptization is understandable.

J. Arthur Hastur
5th February 2007, 08:09 AM
It's true. 'We' are after him. Well, 'We' are after all of you now for having read this.