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Harlequin
6th February 2007, 05:37 AM
Quick background:

My mother-in-law gave me an article on vaccines and brain damage
(called Vaccine Brain Damage, Aftermath of Hepatitis B Shots).
It's by Lucia Morgan and appears in "alive" issue 188.

Basically, it lists a lot of horribleness about Hep B (and other) vaccines and quotes several experts:
- Dr. Mark R. Geier
- Dr. Andrew J. Wakefield
- Dr Bryon M. Hyde

There's also another article she gave me (photocopied from some newspaper) with a lot of stuff from the Australian Vaccination Network (AVN).

So, I'm well aware of the crap coming out of AVN, and anyone can find enough online to discredit Geier and Wakefield.

However, most of what I've found on Hyde seems to be less raving than normal. Does anyone know more about his research?
Here's an example:
A New and Simple Definition of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (http://www.investinme.org/Documents/PDFdocuments/Byron%20Hyde%20Little%20Red%20Book%20for%20www.inv estinme.org.pdf)

Wikipedia seems to have an entry for "Myalgic Encephalomyelitis" that is relatively supportive of his research.

Katana
6th February 2007, 05:48 AM
I can't find any evidence that Dr. Hyde has done any research himself. Doesn't mean he hasn't - I just couldn't find any.

His first name is Byron, though, in case anyone else looks.

Harlequin
6th February 2007, 05:58 AM
I wondered about the name, since Byron was suggested by Google.
Unfortunately, the typo is in the article in "alive" and not by me.

Katana
6th February 2007, 06:04 AM
I wondered about the name, since Byron was suggested by Google.
Unfortunately, the typo is in the article in "alive" and not by me.

That's what I figured.

(I like your edit. :D )

fls
6th February 2007, 07:49 AM
Quick background:

My mother-in-law gave me an article on vaccines and brain damage
(called Vaccine Brain Damage, Aftermath of Hepatitis B Shots).
It's by Lucia Morgan and appears in "alive" issue 188.

Basically, it lists a lot of horribleness about Hep B (and other) vaccines and quotes several experts:
- Dr. Mark R. Geier
- Dr. Andrew J. Wakefield
- Dr Bryon M. Hyde

There's also another article she gave me (photocopied from some newspaper) with a lot of stuff from the Australian Vaccination Network (AVN).

So, I'm well aware of the crap coming out of AVN, and anyone can find enough online to discredit Geier and Wakefield.

However, most of what I've found on Hyde seems to be less raving than normal. Does anyone know more about his research?
Here's an example:
A New and Simple Definition of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (http://www.investinme.org/Documents/PDFdocuments/Byron%20Hyde%20Little%20Red%20Book%20for%20www.inv estinme.org.pdf)

Wikipedia seems to have an entry for "Myalgic Encephalomyelitis" that is relatively supportive of his research.

I found some other stuff that he wrote.

http://www.rivexpharma.com/pdf/Imunovir_study.pdf
http://www.amazon.com/Clinical-Scientific-Myalgic-Encephalomyelitis-Chronic-Syndrome/dp/0969566204
http://homepage.mac.com/doctormark/Acrobat/CFS_MCS/CFS98_Abstracts.pdf

A quick look doesn't find anything that stands out that would discredit him. On the other hand, he hasn't presented any evidence that hepatis B vaccination is associated with CFS, either - regardless of the claim in the Alive article. And more systematic research into this area hasn't demonstrated an association.

Linda

Harlequin
7th February 2007, 03:00 AM
According to a New Zealand medical service, his work is not really given much weight, since his only real study was one that involved a large group of nurses with CFS.
Apparently, they are statistically the ones most likely to report CFS anyway, so it's not clear that the hepatitis vaccine caused it. Many of the ones he included in the study didn't actually meet the definition of CFS anyway.

Plus, when they compared the incidence of Hepatitis vaccination in a different large group of CFS sufferers, there was no significant difference from the vaccination rate of the general population.

They also said that severity of effects did not seem to correlate with amount of exposure to the vaccine, which may or may not be a final nail in the coffin.

Still, there seems to be some idea floating around that there is a mysterious disease causing ME/CFS that is contagious even aside from the hep vaccine. If true, this could explain some of the above. That's more what has me concerned. If the hep vaccine passes "the disease" to someone and then they can pass it on to other non-vaccinated people, then there is a problem with this vaccine. It seems unlikely, or we'd be hearing about massive pandemics of the mysterious disease as the rate of hep vaccination increases.

Anybody heard about anything like this?

Harlequin
7th February 2007, 03:05 AM
Here's a link to the NZ report - of course it is a biased government agency...;)

Immunisation Advisory Centre (http://www.immune.org.nz/?t=930)

Also, from the American Liver Foundation:
Large-scale hepatitis B immunization programs in Taiwan, Alaska and New Zealand have observed no association between the vaccine and serious adverse effects. Furthermore, surveillance of adverse events in the U.S. after hepatitis B vaccination have shown no association between hepatitis B vaccine and the occurrence of serious adverse effects.
ALF on Hepatitis Vaccination (http://www.liverfoundation.org/db/advocacy/1017)

Katana
7th February 2007, 05:22 AM
Going on what you said, nurses are the ones most likely to report CFS, and the vast majority of them would be vaccinated against hep B. However, so are most other healthcare professionals. Why would the incidence of CFS be higher for nurses than docs, physical therapists, physician assistants, etc. all of whom are vaccinated, too?

Harlequin
14th February 2007, 01:17 AM
I could be wrong, but I think the term used in the original studies was "health-care professionals", which might include all of these.