Lisa M. Nowak's spokesperson career

[Bill Thompson]

Lisa M. Nowak's spokesperson career...

Got an important meeting to rush to and you don't want to be concered about loosing time stopping along the way?
Think Depends!
http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/6b/4e/Depend_Dispoasable_Super_Absorbancy_Refastenable_U nderwear-resized200.jpg
Yes, Depends is not just for Incontinence Anymore
As used by NASA astronaut Lisa M. Nowak (CAPTAIN, USN)
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/portraits/nowak-thumbnail.jpg

[steverino]

It's one small step for man, one giant poop for womankind.

[David Swidler]

Clearly, she was pissed off.

[Katana]

I know that I should be shocked that she drove 900 miles from where she lives with her husband and children in order to (allegedly) spray another woman with pepper spray and possibly kill her, effectively shooting her career as an astronaut to hell. Oh, I am.

But, out of everything, I have to admit that I was most disturbed by the diaper thing. I can't help it. Wow.

:nope:

[hgc]

I've spent the last few days trying to compute how much time would be lost in a dash from Houston to Orlando by stopping to use the restroom a few times. How long before the arrival of the flight did she arrive at the airport? Was it more than an hour? Did she kick herself and say, "Gee! I could have stopped to use the can afterall!" Did she clean herself up before her confrontation?

[Bill Thompson]

I wonder what part of this story we are missing.

She had email print outs of conversations between the shuttle pilot and this other female engineer. I wonder if Nowak had hacked into a system and saw them illegally. And I wonder if they mentioned her in some way that set her off.

[Bill Thompson]

I know that I should be shocked that she drove 900 miles from where she lives with her husband and children in order to (allegedly) spray another woman with pepper spray and possibly kill her, effectively shooting her career as an astronaut to hell. Oh, I am.


I think she assumed she could get away with it. And she thought this way because she assumed she was smarter and stronger and better than people who get caught.

[Darth Rotor]

I know that I should be shocked that she drove 900 miles from where she lives with her husband and children in order to (allegedly) spray another woman with pepper spray and possibly kill her, effectively shooting her career as an astronaut to hell. Oh, I am.

But, out of everything, I have to admit that I was most disturbed by the diaper thing. I can't help it. Wow.

:nope:
As bizarre and peversely funny as this is, my thoughts turn to her kids, who had a mucho coolo astronaut mom, and to her husband, who must have been proud of her. Consider the fall from grace that her kids will experience now that their mom is nationally portrayed as a psycho space bitch from hell. Won't someone think of the children? She apparently forgot to, or stopped doing so.

Then there is the husband's dilemma. Space Captain Spiffette is catting around on on him. There's a fine thing to learn first thing in the morning from the papers.

Try this on for size, for a weird phone call to start one's day.

Phone rings.

"Hello"
"Hi, honey, it's me. Can you get me a lawyer?"
"A lawyer? Where are you?"
"I am in custody in Florida for something, and I need a lawyer."
"We live in Houston. What in the blazes are you doing in Florida?"
"We can talk about that later, honey. Here is the jail I need to be bailed out of (details of jail location and phone number follow.) Can you get right on it? My one phone call is about to expire."
"OK, Lucy, but you got some 'splainin' to do!"
*click*

DR

[Katana]

As bizarre and peversely funny as this is, my thoughts turn to her kids, who had a mucho coolo astronaut mom, and to her husband, who must have been proud of her. Consider the fall from grace that her kids will experience now that their mom is nationally portrayed as a psycho space bitch from hell. Won't someone think of the children? She apparently forgot to, or stopped doing so.

Then there is the husband's dilemma. Space Captain Spiffette is catting around on on him. There's a fine thing to learn first thing in the morning from the papers.

Try this on for size, for a weird phone call to start one's day.

Phone rings.

"Hello"
"Hi, honey, it's me. Can you get me a lawyer?"
"A lawyer? Where are you?"
"I am in custody in Florida for something, and I need a lawyer."
"We live in Houston. What in the blazes are you doing in Florida?"
"We can talk about that later, honey. Here is the jail I need to be bailed out of (details of jail location and phone number follow.) Can you get right on it? My one phone call is about to expire."
"OK, Lucy, but you got some 'splainin' to do!"
*click*

DR

I did think of her poor children, but I can't get past the diaper thing. :mgduh

As for her husband, evidently the marriage was falling apart already.

But there were signs that not everything was right in her life.

In a NASA interview last year, before her mission aboard Discovery, she spoke about the strain her career placed on her family. She has twin 5-year-old girls and a teenage son.

“It’s a sacrifice for our own personal time and our families and the people around us,” she said. “But I do think it’s worth it because if you don’t explore and take risks and go do all these things, then everything will stay the same.”

In November, a neighbor reported hearing the sounds of dishes being thrown inside Nowak’s Houston-area home, and the police came. And weeks ago, Nowak and her husband separated after 19 years.

This story is sad on many levels.

Link (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17023767/)

[shemp]

I think the reason for the diapers wasn't that she was trying to save time. She was probably afraid that if she stopped to use a restroom, she might be recognized and that would leave evidence of her movements (pun intended). I wonder if she also carried gas cans so she wouldn't have to stop for gas.

[hgc]

I think the reason for the diapers wasn't that she was trying to save time. She was probably afraid that if she stopped to use a restroom, she might be recognized and that would leave evidence of her movements (pun intended). I wonder if she also carried gas cans so she wouldn't have to stop for gas.
Considering that the world can be one's toilet, it's a lot easier to eliminate waste without getting photographed than it is to buy gas surreptitiously. Bringing a roll of TP in the car would have done the trick. I saw in the paper today that she stopped at a motel, so that kills the time-urgency angle right there.

[Katana]

Considering that the world can be one's toilet, it's a lot easier to eliminate waste without getting photographed than it is to buy gas surreptitiously. Bringing a roll of TP in the car would have done the trick. I saw in the paper today that she stopped at a motel, so that kills the time-urgency angle right there.

Interesting. We don't know whether she actually used any diapers, do we? Maybe they were in preparation for a really long stakeout at the airport.

[hgc]

Interesting. We don't know whether she actually used any diapers, do we? Maybe they were in preparation for a really long stakeout at the airport.
Yes, I am finding it hard to believe that she used the diapers during the trip, there being no good reason to. But then, her motivations are not necessarily fathomable by us.

[shemp]

Maybe she just likes diapers? Or maybe the diapers were part of her Machiavellian plot to establish an insanity defense in case she got arrested.

[hgc]

Maybe she just likes diapers? Or maybe the diapers were part of her Machiavellian plot to establish an insanity defense in case she got arrested.
Your homework assignment is to find out what Machiavellian means.

[steverino]

"She has twin 5-year-old girls and a teenage son."

The twins must think Mommy's weird for still wearing diapers.

[Merko]

Clearly a serious failure for the NASA screening and testing process.

I mean, people are going to depend on this person for critical missions in space, and she can't even carry out a simple abduction successfully?

[a_unique_person]

I know that I should be shocked that she drove 900 miles from where she lives with her husband and children in order to (allegedly) spray another woman with pepper spray and possibly kill her, effectively shooting her career as an astronaut to hell. Oh, I am.

But, out of everything, I have to admit that I was most disturbed by the diaper thing. I can't help it. Wow.

:nope:

I am guessing that after having to deal with toilet matters in space, a diaper would be a trivial matter.

[Luke T.]

Interesting. We don't know whether she actually used any diapers, do we? Maybe they were in preparation for a really long stakeout at the airport.

Yes, I am finding it hard to believe that she used the diapers during the trip, there being no good reason to. But then, her motivations are not necessarily fathomable by us.

Actually, the police found two soiled adult diapers in her car.

If the whole deal was to save time, and seeing how she didn't dispose of them, was she driving and changing her diapers at the same time? :eek:

Other items found in her kit at the time of her arrest:

6 latex gloves
4 inch blade knife
3 feet of rubber tubing
1 steel mallet
Several large garbage bags
1 BB gun
Pepper spray
Wig
Trench coat

Despite this list, she claims she just intended to scare the other woman.

Among other things, she is being charged with first degree attempted murder, which could get her life in prison.

[Kiwiwriter]

I tell you, being a fan of the space program and having read about its early days and modern history, I've seen some wacky stuff, but never a scandal like this.

There's something seriously wrong with their psych profiling system. I think about the tests they inflicted on the Original Seven, and now it looks like anybody with a CDL can fly the Space Shuttle.

I think I saw a plotline like this in "General Hospital" once, only it took place in the hospital, not on the Space Shuttle.

From the "moonwalk" to the "perp walk." Wow. :boggled:

[Katana]

Actually, the police found two soiled adult diapers in her car.

If the whole deal was to save time, and seeing how she didn't dispose of them, was she driving and changing her diapers at the same time? :eek:

Other items found in her kit at the time of her arrest:

6 latex gloves
4 inch blade knife
3 feet of rubber tubing
1 steel mallet
Several large garbage bags
1 BB gun
Pepper spray
Wig
Trench coat

Despite this list, she claims she just intended to scare the other woman.

Among other things, she is being charged with first degree attempted murder, which could get her life in prison.

Aaagh! Yuck!

Well, then again, maybe it was part of her grand plan, and she actually intended to scare the other woman with her dirty diapers. After administering the pepper spray, perhaps she was planning a little poo fling.

[a_unique_person]

If she was going to kill the other woman, wouldn't she take a real gun?

[Bill Thompson]

As bizarre and peversely funny as this is, my thoughts turn to her kids, who had a mucho coolo astronaut mom, and to her husband, who must have been proud of her. Consider the fall from grace that her kids will experience now that their mom is nationally portrayed as a psycho space bitch from hell. Won't someone think of the children? She apparently forgot to, or stopped doing so.

Then there is the husband's dilemma. ...


She was seperated. I think she was after this Shuttle Pilot because she wanted a father figure for her kids. I know this sounds sexists but most women have no concept of valor and they live for their kids. She might have been a great mom. But her primal instincts got in her way. Let's face it. We are animals.

[Luke T.]

If she was going to kill the other woman, wouldn't she take a real gun?

I take it you've never been on the receiving end of the hell hath no fury deal. A gun's too good. A steel mallet, a knife, some rubber tubing, and some garbage bags is much more like it. She didn't work herself up to drive 900 miles, pissing in her pants, just to pop a quick bullet into the other woman's brain. No, she's gonna make her pay!

[Bill Thompson]

Has anyone heard that NASA just decided to replace all female astonauts with fembots?

[Mycroft]

Other items found in her kit at the time of her arrest:

6 latex gloves
4 inch blade knife
3 feet of rubber tubing
1 steel mallet
Several large garbage bags
1 BB gun
Pepper spray
Wig
Trench coat

Despite this list, she claims she just intended to scare the other woman.

Among other things, she is being charged with first degree attempted murder, which could get her life in prison.

Because of the list, I tend to believe she only intended to scare the woman. With the possible exception of the knife, she didn't bring anything lethal.

[steverino]

Because of the list, I tend to believe she only intended to scare the woman. With the possible exception of the knife, she didn't bring anything lethal.

With all due respect, Myc:

the steel mallet thinggy

[Badger]

Maybe she just likes diapers? Or maybe the diapers were part of her Machiavellian plot to establish an insanity defense in case she got arrested.


Shemp, you speak with the voice of experience. There isn't something we don't know about you, is there? ;)

Luke T. you make a good point.

As for psychological screening, aren't fighter pilots a bit, um, "quirky" to begin with, and that's part of what makes 'em good at their jobs?

[Bill Thompson]

Newsweek has a cover story about this. The bigger story is how they are covering this story. People have lost all sense of judgment. The entire story delves in the pressures and the impact on persons lives that being a working mom and an astronaut has.

Wha?

This is absurd. If we are supposed to show compassion and understanding for this woman then we have a different set of rules for women that we have for men; or we have a different set of rules for white people that we have for black people; or we have a different set of rules for astronauts as we have for sports figures and actors. If we are supposed to forgive Captain Nowak then we are supposed to also forgive O. J. Simpson.

The story that Nowak gave police is that she was just intending to scare this woman. This is exactly what O.J. Simpson has said in is pseudo confessional book. He had snuck onto Nicole’s property from the back intending to confront and scare Nicole. Nowak said that something just happened and she did something stupid when she sprayed the pepper spray into the car. Well, according to O.J. Simpson’s pseudo confession, he was surprised when he found Ron Goldman on the property and what suddenly set him off was the fact that the dog greeted him wagging his tail. “You have been here lots of times before” he said and things father escalated when the younger man took a karate stance challenging Simpson.

The point is this. I find it absurd that we are looking for answers and finding a need to be compassionate to Nowak when many of us immediately condemned Simpson and continue to do so. I think this incident with Nowak is truly beyond belief (http://apollohoax.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=paranormal&action=display&thread=1170788933), it is beyond understanding and it is beyond forgiveness.

[Hamradioguy]

Anyone who has spent any amount of time working for, with, or around law enforcement types can tell all kinds of stories about the truly weird stuff found in the cars of perps who are arrested.

If you are going to do the crime:
1. Consider it likely that you will "serve time".
2. Empty your car of bizarre stuff before you are apprehended.

[Merko]

Strange as it seems, a lot of people doing serious high-profile crimes have absolutely no worries of getting caught. This is probably even more likely in a case like this one.

[Bill Thompson]

I got a message that this thread was edited. Is it because we should not post images?

[ARubberChickenWithAPulley]

Nowak's lawyer is claiming that "The biggest lie in this preposterous tale that has been told is that my client drove from Houston, Texas, to Orlando, Florida, nonstop, wearing a diaper." Article here. (http://www.theledger.com/article/20070630/NEWS/706300396/1134)

It's possible the story is wrong, but the lawyer also lays out his own reasons for disputing the claim.

"It jeopardizes our ability to have a fair trial when the accused is the butt of jokes," Lykkebak said.

Lykkebak didn't say why he waited until now to dispute the police report.

The diaper tidbit was from the police report, which stated that ""Mrs. Nowak said that she didn't want to stop and use the restroom, so she used the diapers to collect her urine."

I have a hard time believing the police officer just made that up out of whole cloth.