God does ACLS...miracle

[firecoins]

ACLS = Advanced Cardiac Life Support
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/12/miracle.heart.ap/index.html


Daniel Walker was on his final lap jogging in his high school gym class when he collapsed, his flawed heart giving out on him.
More than four days later, his heart at a standstill, kept alive by a bypass machine, it began beating again. The 17-year-old's parents called it divine intervention. His physicians were no less amazed.
"I've been a surgeon for 10 years, and this is probably one of the most incredible things I've ever seen," said Dr. Abeel Mangi, one of Walker's cardiac surgeons at New York-Presbyterian Hospital Columbia.

It must have been God. "Turn the Other Cheek" Jesus was helping someone win a boxing match. The holy ghost was having his picture taken.

[Starrman]

ACLS = Advanced Cardiac Life Support
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/12/miracle.heart.ap/index.html


It must have been God. "Turn the Other" Jesus was helping someone win a boxing match. The holy ghost was having his picture taken.


In 10 years at any job, something is going to happen which was more unlikely than anything else that has happened. Is what happened something that was thought to be physically impossible? Was it something that had NEVER happened before? Are the parents OK telling their story to a parent whose child's heart didn't start beating again - are they willing to tell them they think god saved one of the boys, but let the other die?

[Darat]

I didn't know we could keep people alive without a beating heart for so long without using one of those incredible external "artificial heart" machines.

ETA - Just re-read the article and that's what he was put on - don't know how I missed that at first!

[gfunkusarelius]

dont they find it ironic that humans had to give God four days to get the job done??? what the hell, was he just weighing his options while human ingenuity kept the boy alive?...how come we never get any credit? and after all, isnt that what those machines are for? in the case that the person can stabilize and their body can come back to working condition?

[Loss Leader]

For what it's worth, Columbia Presbyterian (now New York Presbyterian) is as real a hospital as they get. I've had four open-heart surgeries there (or 5 depending on how you count). Bill Clinton had his heart operation there. So did Ed Koch.

[firecoins]

For what it's worth, Columbia Presbyterian (now New York Presbyterian) is as real a hospital as they get. I've had four open-heart surgeries there (or 5 depending on how you count). Bill Clinton had his heart operation there. So did Ed Koch.
WOW your not even sure how many you had! I am sure Colombia Presbyterian has it down as 10 for billing purposes.

Yes Colombia Prsebyterian is an awesome hospital

[Loss Leader]

WOW your not even sure how many you had! I am sure Colombia Presbyterian has it down as 10 for billing purposes.


No kidding. The charge from the hospital for my last surgery was over three hundred thousand dollars. That's just the hospital (not the surgeon, not the anesthesiologist) and that's just the surgery (not the 23 day hospital stay afterwards).

[jens]

These stories drive me so crazy! I hear this all the time at my job, and I'm always dumbfounded by the fact that people will give all the credit to god and none to the doctors and nurses who have worked extremely hard to keep their loved one alive.
I always have to wonder, if people think that god granted them a miracle to save their loved one, why don't they think about the fact that god was clearly trying to take their loved one. I have heard people who are unwilling to withdraw life support on someone with unsurvivable injuries, because they don't want to get in the way of god's plan...........they don't seem to realize that we are totally intervening with god's plan by putting the patient on life support. It makes my head hurt.

[RichardR]

You'd think God could have saved everyone (including himself) a whole lot of trouble if he'd just fixed the kid's heart before he collapsed.

[firecoins]

You'd think God could have saved everyone (including himself) a whole lot of trouble if he'd just fixed the kid's heart before he collapsed.
yes but god works in myserious way.

[Apathia]

"Thank Goodness!"

[gerdbonk]

Are we sure there wasn't a Junior Mint (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Junior_Mint_(Seinfeld_episode)) involved?

[thaiboxerken]

You'd think God could have saved everyone (including himself) a whole lot of trouble if he'd just fixed the kid's heart before he collapsed.

I have to wonder what kind of permanent damage the kid has sustained. Look, I'm a miracle of god...... can you please wipe the drool off my face for me?

Of course, I've been vilified for suggesting that science and technology played a major role in this.

http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=287435&perpage=40&pagenumber=2

[Jas]

Wow.

That message board is like staring into the mind of an amoeba.

[SezMe]

I've had four open-heart surgeries there (or 5 depending on how you count).
I assume that, at some point, they just put a zipper across your chest to make future access easier.

[Loss Leader]

I assume that, at some point, they just put a zipper across your chest to make future access easier.

In fact, after my last surgery to replace my pulmonary valve, I developed a large clot overnight. They had to open me up again to remove the clot and sew up whatever was bleeding. There was no cutting involved. They just undid the twist ties holding together my sternum.

They're getting better at doing things through angioplasty. In fact, most of my first repair back in 1973 could be done without cracking the chest at all now. Even my valve replacement will be done without opening the chest by the time the one I have wears out.