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arcticpenguin
11th July 2003, 02:56 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/books/07/11/mormon.book.ap/index.html

"Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith," in bookstores Tuesday, looks at the dangers of religious extremism through those who claim to follow the original teachings of the Mormon church, notably the tenet of polygamy.

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n "Under the Banner of Heaven," Krakauer turns his attention to the 1984 murders of Brenda Lafferty and her 15-month-old daughter, Erica, in rural Utah at the hands of Brenda's fundamentalist brothers-in-law.

The author uses those deaths as to argue that, because of Mormon inconsistencies and silences about the dark corners of the faith's past, the LDS church has been unable to break free from embarrassing and sometimes tragic episodes.

The church has been forceful in rebuking Krakauer's book. Spokesman Michael Otterson called the writer's attempt to link religious zealots with Mormon history and doctrine "a full-frontal assault on the veracity of the modern church."
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Krakauer tries to add a larger context to the killings and their alleged connection to Mormon fundamentalism by examining the secretive communities of polygamists, those who have given up the practice and the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping case. Alleged abductor Brian David Mitchell claims God told him to take Elizabeth as a "sister wife."
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Krakauer's "basic thesis appears to be that people who are religious are irrational, and that irrational people do strange things," Otterson said. "He does a huge disservice to his readers by promulgating old stereotypes."

The Mormon church has nothing to do with fundamentalists, church officials say. It excommunicates those who advocate plural marriage. Still, zealots such as Lafferty and Mitchell tarnish the church's image, and polygamy remains inextricably linked to the church's early decades.
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Krakauer's language in the book is pointed: "Mormon authorities treat the fundamentalists as they would a crazy uncle -- they try to keep the 'polygs' hidden in the attic, safely out of sight, but the fundamentalists always seem to be sneaking out to appear in public at inopportune moments to create unsavory scenes, embarrassing the entire LDS clan."

Interesting and complicated topic. I think I might have to agree with the mormons that trying to tarnish them with the actions of a small group who in fact are no longer in the church seems unfair. Any large group will have a few wackos.

As for the basic thesis that "people who are religious are irrational", I can't argue with that, but that doesn't necessarily mean their religion is responsible for everything they do.

Yahweh
12th July 2003, 10:09 PM
Any large group will have a few wackos.
Penguins often congregate in large groups...

kittynh
13th July 2003, 05:21 PM
I agree, I have a MOrmon family that I am friends with. THey are wonderful people, who finally gave up trying to convert me. They feel themselves that many Mormon men get on a "power trip", and abuse the authority given them by the church. They won't live in Utah because they feel the church is a little too powerful there for it's own good. But, as many Catholics disagree with some church policy, so do many Mormons.

arcticpenguin
17th July 2003, 11:45 AM
USA Today has a review. I selected a few quotes:

But religious leaders and scholars of many faiths believe there is no inherent connection between religious faith and violence.
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(Charles Kimball:) "Rationality does not throw out religion."
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Brutal acts in the Bible were written in the context of history, not theological doctrine, Popich says.
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"Studying the pathological forms of religion is not studying genuine faith," says Bellinger, who teaches theology and ethics at Brite Divinity School in Fort Worth. "Violence is actually a revolt against authentic religious faith. If you are committing murder, you reveal you are not in a genuine relationship with God."

1) That's exactly whom I would ask for an unbiased opinion.

2) I would disagree.

3) Many people claim otherwise.

4) Classic no true Scotsman.