William Cooper exposes Alex Jones [Archive]

Childlike Empress

16th February 2007, 10:02 PM

JAStewart

17th February 2007, 02:34 AM

Meh, Perry Logan exposes Alex Jones for the loon he is everyday.

Go Logan, Go!

The Doc

17th February 2007, 02:35 AM

Alex Jones exposes Alex Jones for the loon he is everyday.

:p

Seriously though, Perry does an awesome job.

PerryLogan

17th February 2007, 04:36 AM

Thanks, y'all. Let's face it, all you have to do is quote the guy.

Thanks also for the clip. Empress, do you know any more about William Cooper? I mean, how did he get himself shot, why did he get shot, and is getting shot what changed his thinking about being a Truther? I'm getting curious about how much Truthers break the law.

I mean, if the government is the font of all evil, you have a full-blown rationalization for committing all sorts of crimes.

Not to put too fine a point on it, I'll bet a lot of Truthers are criminals.

Oliver

17th February 2007, 06:36 AM

@Childlike: Are you Rei Murasane and if not - what's your nick at LCF? ;)

JAStewart

17th February 2007, 06:56 AM

Its actually quite entertaining to hear Jones go a bit mental like on the turn of 1999. What a dick.

JamesM

17th February 2007, 07:19 AM

Thanks also for the clip. Empress, do you know any more about William Cooper? I mean, how did he get himself shot, why did he get shot, and is getting shot what changed his thinking about being a Truther?

Milton William Cooper

Basically, we have him to thank for the whole mid-90s conspiracy UFO mythos with its underground bases, alien abduction and MJ12.

StoneWT

17th February 2007, 07:47 AM

Cooper made a series of broadcasts covering Alex Jones. You can buy them from the audio catalog on his website. He came to believe Jones was a sensationalist out to make money. When Jones had Cooper on his radio show, he was kissing Cooper's butt and praising Behold a Pale Horse.

JAStewart

17th February 2007, 07:49 AM

StoneWT

17th February 2007, 08:06 AM

:footinmou

Is there a point?

Cooper's friends run the website and hold the copyright to his material. If you want to listen to Cooper's trilogy of tapes made after the Y2K one listed in this topic, you can buy them. If you don't want to listen to them, don't buy them.

Childlike Empress

17th February 2007, 09:50 AM

Thanks also for the clip. Empress, do you know any more about William Cooper? I mean, how did he get himself shot, why did he get shot, and is getting shot what changed his thinking about being a Truther?

With "shot" i meant "killed", Perry. He was neither a truther nor anything other after that. You will find a lot of information by asking the google oracle.

@Childlike: Are you Rei Murasane and if not - what's your nick at LCF? ;)

Oliver, get a life. Really. Witzfigur.

Oliver

17th February 2007, 10:40 AM

Oliver, get a life. Really. Witzfigur.

Wer von uns beiden ist denn die Heulsuse die
jeden attackiert der nicht mit dir übereinstimmt.
Du hast nicht mal genug Mumm zu verraten wer
du sonst noch so bist in anderen Foren.

Aber juckt mich auch nicht sonderlich - schließlich
will ich ja nicht das dich die NWO entführt sobald
du deine mysteriöse Schauspielerei aufgibst. :D

Childlike Empress

17th February 2007, 10:50 AM

Mumm? Es geht Dich nen feuchten Kericht an, welche Nicks ich in anderen Foren verwende. Daß ich nicht Rei Murasame bin, habe ich Dir schon vor Monaten gesagt und Dich ausserdem darauf hingewiesen, daß ich nicht besonders gerne in Foren schreibe, in denen ich für meine Meinung gesperrt werde. Punkt.

Oliver

17th February 2007, 11:02 AM

Pffff. Irgendwie bist du drollig. Komma.

T.A.M.

17th February 2007, 11:27 AM

Arrrgghhhh!!!!!

Can we stick to a language we all understand. There is PMing if insult hurling has to come out of English here.

TAM:mad:

Kage

17th February 2007, 12:18 PM

It does present an easy way around rule8. Too bad our foul language does not translate to Japanese (my second-ish language), or I'd use it a lot more here.

Childlike Empress

17th February 2007, 12:45 PM

"shure" posted a part II:

http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/information2.mp3

Cl1mh4224rd

17th February 2007, 01:13 PM

Empress, do you know any more about William Cooper? I mean, how did he get himself shot, why did he get shot, and is getting shot what changed his thinking about being a Truther? I'm getting curious about how much Truthers break the law.
In July and September 2001, Cooper used a handgun to threaten passersby near his home in Eagar, Arizona. On November 5, 2001, officers of the Apache County Sheriff's Office lured him from his house by posing as civilians. After the deputies identified themselves and tried to serve an arrest warrant, Cooper fled toward his house and began shooting, wounding one deputy. Another returned fire, killing Cooper.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper#Later_life

Stellafane

17th February 2007, 05:09 PM

jhunter1163

17th February 2007, 05:30 PM

I think the smiley for this would be :catfight:

Childlike Empress

19th October 2007, 07:16 PM

Follow-up from 26 September 2001, William Cooper calling Alex Jones a "bald-faced miserable stinking little coward liar".

http://www.files.to/get/71065/iqdfpohfie

Wow, funny, but why does it matter? I guess i'm posting it for the AJ minions reading here, but all in all it's fun to listen for people who are into fringe explanations of reality. Some might just type "why should i be interested in kooks calling kooks kooks" but i tell them "why should i be interested in kooks calling kooks who call kooks kooks kooks"?

btw, where does "Kook" come from? Is it from this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Isaac_Kook)?

T.A.M.

19th October 2007, 07:21 PM

well CLE, If i didn't know better ;) I would say you were coming here with a sense of humor, and not an ounce of discontent...looks good on you.

TAM:)

gumboot

19th October 2007, 07:28 PM

Some might just type "why should i be interested in kooks calling kooks kooks" but i tell them "why should i be interested in kooks calling kooks who call kooks kooks kooks"?

:faint:

-Gumboot

ref

20th October 2007, 12:53 AM

I actually miss Perry Logan's Alex Jones bashings :o

SDC

20th October 2007, 05:15 AM

btw, where does "Kook" come from? Is it from this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Isaac_Kook)?

Cut down by me to a specific question.

Answer: No. As you must have read in the Wikipedia piece, Rav Kook was one of the most important figures in the 20th century Orthodox Jewish rabbinate. I suppose I could do an intense investigation of the origin of that spelling -- maybe comes from the German "Koch," a common Jewish name (and non-Jewish) -- but I don't want to. Remember that Jewish surnames have wandered around quite a bit, not only geographically, but between languages and entire alphabets. Often leading to interesting spellings.

What I've heard is that the word "cuckoo" is suspected as the origin of kook. I remember as a kid (going back to the 1950s-60s) that you'd often hear that someone was "kookie," a little crazy. And this was not at all in an Orthodox Jewish world.

And then there was Ed Byrnes in "Route 66."

Drudgewire

20th October 2007, 07:32 AM

Cooper was the king of the all-emcompassing conspiracy theory. And long before 9/11, Behold a Pale Horse (http://www.amazon.com/Behold-Pale-Horse-William-Cooper/dp/0929385225/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-7071237-0477413?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1192886797&sr=1-1) was considered the CT Bible by a lot of people.

Among the claims that separated him from the rest of the woos of his time:

1. JFK was killed by his limo driver which is why the Zapruder film always looks overexposed.
2. During his Navy days he watched a mile-long UFO come out of the water, then was forced by the military to keep quiet about it.
3. "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" is a real document, but it isn't really about Jews. :rolleyes:
4. EVERY SINGLE OTHER PERSON BESIDES HIM in the conspiracy movement were NWO disinformation agents (which made him REAL popular among the other goofballs selling their books and DVDs.)

When Donna Kossy wrote Kooks: A Guide to the Outer Limits of Human Belief (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0922915679/ref=nosim/?tag=pricegrabber-books-20&creative=380333&creativeASIN=0922915679&linkCode=asn), Cooper was the only conspiratist to warrant an entire chapter.

I miss him SO MUCH! :cry1

Childlike Empress

20th October 2007, 08:12 AM

As you must have read in the Wikipedia piece, Rav Kook was one of the most important figures in the 20th century Orthodox Jewish rabbinate.

Yeah, that's why i was asking.

I suppose I could do an intense investigation of the origin of that spelling -- maybe comes from the German "Koch," a common Jewish name (and non-Jewish) -- but I don't want to. Remember that Jewish surnames have wandered around quite a bit, not only geographically, but between languages and entire alphabets. Often leading to interesting spellings.

That's plausible. "Koch" is the german word for "Cook".

What I've heard is that the word "cuckoo" is suspected as the origin of kook. I remember as a kid (going back to the 1950s-60s) that you'd often hear that someone was "kookie," a little crazy. And this was not at all in an Orthodox Jewish world.

And then there was Ed Byrnes in "Route 66."

Thanks.

SDC

20th October 2007, 09:02 AM

Yeah, that's why i was asking.

That's plausible. "Koch" is the german word for "Cook".

Thanks.

A little more about Rav Kook. The Hebrew alphabet form of his name is Kuk. (The u, the letter vov, is pronounced like English oo not uh -- so Kook is a reasonable transliteration.) But that tells us nothing about the original form of the surname. Most Ashkenazic Jews only got family names in the 18th-19 cs., thanks to the need for taxes and a military draft. If you have heard of the writer von Kleist, in his diaries, he refers to his official task in Warsaw of giving Jews family names and what a joke he made of it (ca.1800). He earned his bread as a Prussian bureaucrat. (I think that was him.)

And Kook's fame was from British mandate Palestine up to 1935 (his death). There is no way on god's green earth that his name would have been of any interest to US-derived slang.

SDC

20th October 2007, 09:02 AM

Silly duplication.

Childlike Empress

20th October 2007, 09:21 AM

And Kook's fame was from British mandate Palestine up to 1935 (his death). There is no way on god's green earth that his name would have been of any interest to US-derived slang.

Another beautiful theory debunked. :(

I thought this was maybe the foundation of an initiative for appropriate naming of religous fundamentalists. You know, Rabbi Kook, Pope Be-an-addict, Imam Mad and the Gaga Khan... :D

Brainster

20th October 2007, 11:30 AM

And then there was Ed Byrnes in "Route 66."

Close. It was 77 Sunset Strip.

Oliver

20th October 2007, 11:59 AM

"shure" at the LCF posted this audio file:

http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/information1.mp3

William Cooper, who was to my layman knowledge a big figure in the "Patriot movement" until he was shot by the police, comments on Alex Jones' show of 31th December 1999, leading up to the Y2K bruhaha (including a lot of audio snippets), and accuses him of fearmongering.

I don't want to comment on that but think it will interest a lot of people here. Kind of a "historic" document.

Is William Cooper the guy who had connections to John
Stadtmiller - who was being accused to have something
to do with Cooper's death?

I don't even understand German, and I can still tell this is nothing nice!

Punkt??

"Punkt" means Point - in case it reminded you to "Punk'd".

Drudgewire

20th October 2007, 12:08 PM

Is William Cooper the guy who had connections to John
Stadtmiller - who was being accused to have something
to do with Cooper's death?

I'm not familiar with the Stadtmiller connection beyond some claims he helped cover up the death with disinformation on his radio show... which is going to be the case any time two conspiracy theories rely on different wrong information.

Linda Thompson and Bo Gritz were the closest thing to people "in the movement" Cooper trusted... and that trust was fleeting to say the least.