Hyper Dimensional Design

[Orphia Nay]

at FCN

Ah, a new installment of the "it's over there" trick. 1 (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7401319&postcount=4358) 2 (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7401338&postcount=4362)

Knowing your m.o., this means no confirming evidence will be found where you say it is.
As usual.

Exactly! I have no idea what Dutch is referring to. Just because I replied a few times at FCN years ago, he expects me to keep doing so every time he posts an update. I check the thread very occasionally, and rarely has anyone else replied, and then only a woo-woo with a question totally unrelated to Dutch's efforts. It's a pointless waste of time, but Dutch clearly thinks I should be replying to every thread in every forum we're both members (4, I think, at last count.) :oldroll:

I barely have time to keep up with this one. I enjoy this one, because it has the most interesting discussions. If I wanted to see Dutch's ramblings and nothing else, I'd go to the other threads, or his HDD forum.

Yes, you doesn't seem to interact at all at CR.

I know why

Its a members only forum

I only post at such forums to give the kind like you the impression you've contained me

What is that supposed to mean? You post there, and everywhere because you just can't let any idea you have about HDD go.

That's your whole problem. You don't test your theory and revise it based on feedback and results. You just keep adding in new events, new planetary measurements, new "special" numbers, new famous figures, and new calculations instead of realising that you're cherrypicking news articles and measurements to fit the earlier calculations, and leaving yourself wide open to have to cherrypick more events and measurements to fit the new HDD "synchronicities", and so it snowballs. You just can't let a bad idea go.

Do I have to repeat myself and link to an explanation of the Sunk-Cost fallacy again?

[dafydd]

I myself am quite interested to see how many people will go over to his stories and discuss them here.

I predict less than one and I don't need HDD for that.

[Daylightstar]

...
Based on these articles I would like to discuss with you, something has to be done in order to increase mutual understanding.
...

Not likely, you're just attempting to 'create the need' for reinstating your posting habits.
Very deceptive indeed. Nothing new.

[Daylightstar]

I predict less than one and I don't need HDD for that.

HDDesign HDDelusion has resisted all attempts to be demonstrated as real. There is no point in talking about his stories as if they are based on a real concept.

[Dutch]

Orphia,

You are a moderator on a members only forum with 154 members, of which at least 25 I know for sure are professional personalities becomming active after 9/11. You guys cultivate these characters all over the net. The problem is that you have invested so much efforts in your 'personalities' that you don't want to give it up. You blew your cover years ago, you are nothing but a professional information controller.

You think everybody is stupid

You are pathetic. HDDesign will show its validity, you can´t stop it.

You are just affraid for the political implications that are unveiled, you have done a bad job because you´ve failed to contain it.

Watch the Hariri situation and remember what I´ve been saying about it.

You are fired :)

[Daylightstar]

Dutch, you don't know the line of command of our structure. You don't know who is paying who.
You don't get to decide which of the information controllers get fired....or which get a major bonus.

The information controllers are closer to you than you think, Dutch.

[Daylightstar]

I'll lift the veil a little more for you, Dutch.

There is an information controller initiative on the way to deal with your case. This initiative flows from the new IC Nutcase Control Act (ICNCA).

That's all.

[Orphia Nay]

Orphia,

You are a moderator on a members only forum with 154 members, of which at least 25 I know for sure are professional personalities becomming active after 9/11. You guys cultivate these characters all over the net. The problem is that you have invested so much efforts in your 'personalities' that you don't want to give it up. You blew your cover years ago, you are nothing but a professional information controller.

You think everybody is stupid

You are pathetic. HDDesign will show its validity, you can´t stop it.

You are just affraid for the political implications that are unveiled, you have done a bad job because you´ve failed to contain it.

Watch the Hariri situation and remember what I´ve been saying about it.

You are fired :)

:big: :big: :big:

See! I haz The Power!!!!!11111 :cool: :oldroll:

:( You've created a conspiracy theory on top of your delusion. You make me sad - you have a sad little theory and a sad little forum and you post sad little threads in other sad forums. On the one forum where anyone gives you the attention you crave (here) you ignore their kind and intelligent suggestions and accuse them of conspiring against you.

You need to seek professional help. :(

[Dutch]

Dutch, you don't know the line of command of our structure. You don't know who is paying who.
You don't get to decide which of the information controllers get fired....or which get a major bonus.

The information controllers are closer to you than you think, Dutch.

You aren't on the payroll

[Dutch]

I'll lift the veil a little more for you, Dutch.

There is an information controller initiative on the way to deal with your case. This initiative flows from the new IC Nutcase Control Act (ICNCA).

That's all.

For this you are willing to pay contribution I guess

[Paul]

If you genuinely believe you latest nonsense, and aren't just being more juvenile than usual, I seriously suggest you seek professional help immediately.

[Dutch]

:big: :big: :big:

See! I haz The Power!!!!!11111 :cool: :oldroll:

:( You've created a conspiracy theory on top of your delusion. You make me sad - you have a sad little theory and a sad little forum and you post sad little threads in other sad forums. On the one forum where anyone gives you the attention you crave (here) you ignore their kind and intelligent suggestions and accuse them of conspiring against you.

You need to seek professional help. :(

Only you Orphia

You talk like your collegue Trausti Hraunfjord, give him a coffee when he comes in

[Daylightstar]

You aren't on the payroll

Of course not, since there is no payroll.

[Daylightstar]

Dutch you have presented an obvious delusion, and recently what appears fairly strong bizarre behavior, associated with that delusion.
This points towards a necessity for professional assistance. I respectfully urge you to make an appointment with your GP and explore the possibilities for obtaining a psychiatric evaluation or diagnosis.

This may lead to being prescribed medication.
A consequence may be that everything you believe in so deeply and viciously, have invested so much time in and which you have incorporated into your personality and personal life, will disappear apparently just like that.

It's a fearful thought, to have all you believe to be true, taken away from you by just those little pills. It seems almost unfair, doesn't it?
It'll turn your life upside down, that's probably true. But it's better than having your life destroyed in the end.

[Orphia Nay]

You talk like your collegue Trausti Hraunfjord, give him a coffee when he comes in

Who on Sagan's green Earth is that?

I'm a professional information controller???

Who's paying me?

[Hans]

HDDesign will show its validity, you can´t stop it.

Well Dutch we have been waiting eight plus years for you to do just that....could ya like maybe speed up the validating a bit? LOL

[Dutch]

The synchronicities with huge CME's the last few days are unmistaken


August 19, 2011

A huge mass of electrically-charged particles thrown out by a gigantic eruption on the Sun is due to strike the Earth tonight.
Scientists expect it to trigger one of the most violent geomagnetic storms ever recorded.




The Design is outlined for Q3 and Q4 2011

review my posts of today and the days before.

coincidences are just unrecognized correlations

[Daylightstar]

My colleague was on the phone with someone and he was obviously talking about another guy when he said that he thought the guy was a little bit ‘lost’, that it looked as if this guy was not here with his mind, but somewhere between the Moon and Mars.

... the missing link on a paper waiting on my desk for months ...

Now that is a coincidence with a clearly recognized correlation....

[Mister Earl]

coincidences are just unrecognized correlations

I think the technical term is "confirmation bias".

[Dutch]

Dutch you have presented an obvious delusion, and recently what appears fairly strong bizarre behavior, associated with that delusion.
This points towards a necessity for professional assistance. I respectfully urge you to make an appointment with your GP and explore the possibilities for obtaining a psychiatric evaluation or diagnosis.

This may lead to being prescribed medication.
A consequence may be that everything you believe in so deeply and viciously, have invested so much time in and which you have incorporated into your personality and personal life, will disappear apparently just like that.

It's a fearful thought, to have all you believe to be true, taken away from you by just those little pills. It seems almost unfair, doesn't it?
It'll turn your life upside down, that's probably true. But it's better than having your life destroyed in the end.

I didn't knew there are pills available that can stop synchronicities and coincidences.

Maybe if you stop using them, you may open up your rigid mind

[Daylightstar]

...
review my posts of today and the days before.
...

Meh, no thanks. As for the 'content' of your post, I'll counter balance it with another Mass Ejection...

http://forums.randi.org/picture.php?albumid=718&pictureid=4924

[Daylightstar]

I didn't knew there are pills available that can stop synchronicities and coincidences.

Maybe if you stop using them, you may open up your rigid mind

That's okay, you can't know everything.

[Wolrab]

:big: :big: :big:

See! I haz The Power!!!!!11111 :cool: :oldroll:

:( You've created a conspiracy theory on top of your delusion. You make me sad - you have a sad little theory and a sad little forum and you post sad little threads in other sad forums. On the one forum where anyone gives you the attention you crave (here) you ignore their kind and intelligent suggestions and accuse them of conspiring against you.

You need to seek professional help. :(

In Command of the Revolution's Gorilla Group II of Monkeys, Camels and Penguins (all named 'Spod').

What's all this, then? He's got you dead on, you professional information controller, you! Or should I say Spod?

[Wolrab]

The synchronicities with huge CME's the last few days are unmistaken

August 19, 2011

A huge mass of electrically-charged particles thrown out by a gigantic eruption on the Sun is due to strike the Earth tonight.
Scientists expect it to trigger one of the most violent geomagnetic storms ever recorded.

The Design is outlined for Q3 and Q4 2011

review my posts of today and the days before.

coincidences are just unrecognized correlations

How did that work out for you?

Here is a link from a primary source. Where is the disruption?
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/today.html

How does a non event figure in to HDD?

[Orphia Nay]

What's all this, then? He's got you dead on, you professional information controller, you! Or should I say Spod?

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/orphia/Smileys/hehe.gif I can't wait to see Dutch claim I'm controlling these guys too:

http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/viewtopic.php?p=1174893#p1174893

[Dutch]

How did that work out for you?

Here is a link from a primary source. Where is the disruption?
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/today.html

How does a non event figure in to HDD?

It was posted on my forum by somebody else and I didn't recognize it as the 2003 event. The underlying Design as given in the above posts was already outlined though and still stands.


In modern times, the largest solar flare measured with instruments occurred on November 4, 2003. This event saturated the GOES detectors, and because of this its classification is only approximate. Initially, extrapolating the GOES curve, it was pegged at X28.[13] Later analysis of the ionospheric effects suggested increasing this estimate to X45.[14] This event produced the first clear evidence of a new spectral component above 100 GHz.[15] Other large solar flares also occurred on April 2, 2001 (X20)[16], October 28, 2003 (X17.2 & X10)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_flare (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_flare)



The other 'events' around august 18, 2011 from the timeline

WASHINGTON -- NASA will host a news briefing at 2 p.m. EDT, Thursday, Aug. 18, to discuss new details about the structure of solar storms and the impact they have on Earth. The new information comes from NASA's Solar Terrestrial Relations Observatory, or STEREO, spacecraft and other NASA probes.
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnew....._Show.html (http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/aug/HQ_M11-170_Solar_Show.html)

Sun storms 'could be more disruptive within decades'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scie.....t-14580995 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14580995)

Space Storm Tracked from Sun to Earth

For the first time, a spacecraft far from Earth has turned and watched a solar storm engulf our planet. The movie, released today during a NASA press conference, has galvanized solar physicists, who say it could lead to important advances in space weather forecasting.

read article and watch awesome video here:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pa.....cking.html (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/stereo/news/solarstorm-tracking.html)

Russia loses contact with satellite after launch
http://www.spacedaily.com/repo.....h_999.html (http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Russia_loses_contact_with_satellite_after_launch_9 99.html)

I want to emphasize that I expect these solar flares or CME's are going to play the major role in the Design of our current times ( 2011 and 2012 )

[Dutch]

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/orphia/Smileys/hehe.gif I can't wait to see Dutch claim I'm controlling these guys too:

http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/viewtopic.php?p=1174893#p1174893

I don't think they are talking about political implications

[Daylightstar]

...
I want to emphasize that I expect am going to let these solar flares or CME's are going to play the major role in the Design of our current times ( 2011 and 2012 )
Corrective services and bolding by Daylightstar

It's your play, you can choose any leading actor you like.
Hopefully, Hariri won't turn in his grave.

[Daylightstar]

Maybe you should include your friend Hariri in the play: Against The Big Bad Solar Flare.
Hariri, The Solar Flare Buster. Who you're gonna call???? .... Hariri....

tada ♫ ta ♪ da ♪ dada ♫ ... Hariri.

[Daylightstar]

Against The Big Bad Solar Flare sounds much better than your lame The Design Of Our Current Times.

[Orphia Nay]

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/orphia/Smileys/hehe.gif I can't wait to see Dutch claim I'm controlling these guys too:

http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/viewtopic.php?p=1174893#p1174893

I don't think they are talking about political implications

Salmon prefer Repco bicycles.

:bunpan

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

Wrong thread. Sorry, The Man.

[The Man]

The wackiness of this section certainly doesn't bode well for such credibility.


In this chamber, 63 CERN scientists from 17 European and American institutes have done what global warming doomsayers said could never be done — demonstrate that cosmic rays promote the formation of molecules that in Earth’s atmosphere can grow and seed clouds, the cloudier and thus cooler it will be. Because the sun’s magnetic field controls how many cosmic rays reach Earth’s atmosphere (the stronger the sun’s magnetic field, the more it shields Earth from incoming cosmic rays from space), the sun determines the temperature on Earth.

Actually it is Earths magnetic field that protects us form incoming charged particles (like the solar wind). So if the earth is getting hotter because there are less of these cosmic rays promoting the formation of clouds then green house gasses become even more important in not allowing that additional heat to radiate into space. It’s a typical red herring; the Earth doesn’t generate much internal heat so most of it comes from the sun. How rapidly the Earth can radiate away heat is just a much a factor in the mean temperature as how much heat is input. Technically radiant heat energy is T4 where T is absolute temperature, so an object with twice the absolute temperature will radiate 16 times as much power per unit area as before. Clearly increasing the amount of heat radiated away is a very practical way of keeping something cooler.


We now return you to your regularly scheduled (and nefariously post-dictatorial) dimensional design hype.

[Dutch]

read todays updates on HDDesign, you know where to find

It's about time for you sceptics to take your own responsibility

Take care,

Dutch

[Wolrab]

I could not have hdDesigned a better hit for my Plastic Dimensional Proofacies! Today (hopefully after midnight GMT) a satellite is expected to fall to Earth. Coming back to Earth for the last time, just like the Space Shuttle Atlantis did when I single handedly discovered Plastic Dimensional Physics. HDD has never given a hit as perfect as this. And I SHOWED THE MATH!

[Wolrab]

I'll do it.
On Thursday, July 21, 2011 the last Space Shuttle mission ended as the Shuttle Atlantis landed.
By using (hold while I decide what constant I need to use......"i" is too obvious, but probably the most applicable....ah-ha! "p", the plastic constant!) p, the plastic constant, I will demonstrate that something will happen, however vaguely related to the Space Shuttle Atlantis landing for the final time (from a space mission).

The first time line is simple. It is just Day 0 + p = significant event.
HERE IS MY MATH for everyone to follow along:
July 21 + 1.3 = July 22.

My first prediction is that something related to Atlantis returning will happen tomorrow. (as this is the plastic constant, I alone can decide how large the window of opportunity is).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_number

Now, going further out requires more advanced math. July 21 is the 202nd day of the year so if that is multiplied by p, we get the next significant dates by adding the result to the date and the result itself is another significant date.

HERE IS MY MATH!!1!11!
202 x 1.324=267.448
On both April 13, 2012 and September 24, 2011.

I will astound you all with my accuracy as soon as I shoehorn events am aware of the events.
Eat this!

[Paul]

Now that's how you do it, are you taking notes Dutch?

[Orphia Nay]

It's vaguely related to spacey stuff... it's a bona fide hit!!! :cheerleader2

[Wolrab]

I would love to retire with a 100% hit rate, but I still have the April 2012 date. Even if I blow that one, a 50% hit rate is better than HDD has been able to muster.

[Orphia Nay]

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=2004%20RQ252;orb=1

Asteroid 2004 RQ252 will make a very close pass of Earth on April 12, 2012.

Celebrate now, Wolrab!

[dafydd]

read todays updates on HDDesign, you know where to find

It's about time for you sceptics to take your own responsibility

Take care,

Dutch

I take responsibility for everything I do.

[dafydd]

There isn't 1 single lie in all the thousands of posts about this HDDesign.

I think you misunderstood my words when I say 'taken out by Design'.

I used the same words for instance in anticipation on March 11, 2006 when Milosevic died. It means that the moment of the event is intelligently determined as described by the elements of the HDDesign.
Same thing as with 9/11.

Do you really believe this HDD nonsense? Tell me that is not true.

[Orphia Nay]

There isn't 1 single lie in all the thousands of posts about this HDDesign.

Of course not! HDD doesn't say anything - no predictions, no conclusions, no falsification, no theory.

It's 100% waffle with nuts on top.

[Daylightstar]

There ... 9/11.

Meh, your onesimpleprinciple act was better.

[Wolrab]

HDD is dead. All hail PDD!

[Orphia Nay]

I, for one, welcome our new plastic overlords.

[Wolrab]

Hey Dutch! Have you converted to the one true Dimensional Design yet?
Wolrab (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0111754/): I just want to say one word to you. Just one word.
Dutch: Yes, sir.
Wolrab (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0111754/): Are you listening?
Dutch (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000163/): Yes, I am.
wolrab (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0111754/): Plastic.
Benjamin (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000163/): Exactly how do you mean?
wolrab (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0111754/) : Plastic Dimensional Design. It has MATH.

(paraphrased from The Graduate, if you didn't know.)

[dafydd]

I do Fifth Dimensional Design. Up, up and away in my beautiful balloon. (For the youngsters here)

[Dutch]

Interesting times ...
I take it as it comes
Although I don't know what to expect exactly, I do know that when a timeframe opens up, normally about a few day before an observed events day, the synchronicities led by intuition will unveil what lies in store for us.
That's where my focus is.
I won't be able to cross post findings of the HDdesign 'research', so I recommend to keep an eye on the updates in the HDdesign material.

main forum:
Q4 2011 timeline
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=565&mforum=hddesign
Comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin)
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=619&mforum=hddesign
science forum:
Noethic theory
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=674&mforum=hddesign
The Electric Universe
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=389&mforum=hddesign
or keep track on all updates here ( login 'reader' with password 'reader' ):
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/index.php?mforum=hddesign

[Daylightstar]

Focus is not quite the right word.

[dafydd]

I won't be able to cross post findings of the HDdesign 'research', so I recommend to keep an eye on the updates in the HDdesign material.



Pass.

[Dutch]

Pass.

without 'discharge' yes

[dafydd]

without 'discharge' yes

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.

[Orphia Nay]

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.

You're not the only one.

[Daylightstar]

To Dutch, discharge sounds like a very impressively learned word. He thinks it imparts meaning to the unintelligible short sentence he used it in.
Note the single quotation marks.

[dafydd]

To Dutch, discharge sounds like a very impressively learned word. He thinks it imparts meaning to the unintelligible short sentence he used it in.
Note the single quotation marks.

I do have discharges, but that is none of Dutch's business.

[Daylightstar]

I had a discharge (GME) as well in post 4521 at the top of this page, entirely Dutch's business.

[Dutch]

just keep track on the postings

[dafydd]

just keep track on the postings

Pass. Do you not understand that we are not interested in your HDD drivel?

[Daylightstar]

just keep track on the postings

HDDelusion? Bleh...

Irrelevant BS.

[Dutch]

Pass. Do you not understand that we are not interested in your HDD drivel?

Is the Queen talking again?

[Wolrab]

Piffle. Plastic Dimensional is where it's at. I took your challenge and kicked HDD in the behind. Nothing to say, oh dethroned one?

[dafydd]

Is the Queen talking again?

Once again I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. Which Queen? Why would she be talking?

[Dutch]

Once again I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. Which Queen? Why would she be talking?

Only a queen ( or King ) talks in plural

Get it now? told you way back already

[Dutch]

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.

You will, if you keep track on the postings

[Daylightstar]

You will, if you keep track on the postings

Which is a complete waste of time.

[dafydd]

Only a queen ( or King ) talks in plural

Get it now? told you way back already

I did not speak in the plural. I was speaking on behalf of the others here. None of them give any credence to your HDD nonsense.

[Dutch]

I’ve got very bad vibes about the assassination of Kurdish leader Mashaal Tammo last friday , October 7, 2011

==snip==

Just like Rafik Hariri’s assassination, Mashaal Tammo’s assassination was a ‘Trojan gift’.

read full post here:

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=15054&mforum=hddesign#15054

[dafydd]

I’ve got very bad vibes about the assassination of Kurdish leader Mashaal Tammo last friday , October 7, 2011

==snip==

Just like Rafik Hariri’s assassination, Mashaal Tammo’s assassination was a ‘Trojan gift’.

read full post here:

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=15054&mforum=hddesign#15054

Pass. Never heard of him. Don't care about him.

[Daylightstar]

I’ve got very bad vibes ...

Please keep your very bad vibes to yourself.

[dafydd]

Please keep your very bad vibes to yourself.

Is this 1969? HDD seems very out of date.

[Daylightstar]

Is this 1969? HDD seems very out of date.

Was that period not all about 'good vibrations' or was that just a song? HDDelusion doesn't offer that. HDDelusion is bad vib(es)(rations) all the way.

[dafydd]

Was that period not all about 'good vibrations' or was that just a song? HDDelusion doesn't offer that. HDDelusion is bad vib(es)(rations) all the way.

The hippies rabbited on about good and bad vibes all the time. I never knew what they were on about. If I heard somebody say 'There are good vibes in here.' , it just seemed to mean 'Hey, I feel great today.' I was wondering why I should care about this Hariri nonentity getting bumped off. I don't give a damn about him, whoever he was.

[Wolrab]

Dutch can't bring himself to admit Plastic Dimensional Design, developed directly in response to his challenge, blew away any post-diction HDD ever made.
Hey Dutch, how does this sound for a hit: I predicted a related event to the last mission of the Shuttle Atlantis. I also posted the math.
On the very day of the prediction, an obsolete satellite came down to Earth for the last time. Here is how it relates to Atlantis. Atlantis was an obsolete satellite that came down to Earth for the last time. See the relationship?

It fits a whole lot better than: Someone no one knows was killed kinda sorta around a date not posted, with no math shown, on some arbitrary link to an assassination of a sorta kinda semi quasi known dude.

[Dutch]

The hippies rabbited on about good and bad vibes all the time. I never knew what they were on about. If I heard somebody say 'There are good vibes in here.' , it just seemed to mean 'Hey, I feel great today.' I was wondering why I should care about this Hariri nonentity getting bumped off. I don't give a damn about him, whoever he was.

Exactly, hitting the nail on the head. We don't care, that's why we manage to create our reality as it looks

[dafydd]

Exactly, hitting the nail on the head. We don't care, that's why we manage to create our reality as it looks

I don't care about somebody that I've never heard of. I care about my family and friends. The rest does not interest me. You don't really care either. Reality is reality. You have created your own fantasy world. Are there any other nonentities who have been killed that you want to bring to my attention so I can not care about them too?

[Dutch]

I would care about you if you were killed

[dafydd]

I would care about you if you were killed

Why? The feeling is not mutual. People are being killed even as you read this. I don't know who they are and I don't care. There is nothing that I can do about it. What does this have to do with your failure to predict the future using the totally discredited HDD?

[Dutch]

Why? In your case it would be a loss of life from someone who has been stuck in a rigid perception of reality.

That's something, at least to me.

Ever thought about the circumstances you want to awaken once you've exited this 3D reality?

[dafydd]

Why? In your case it would be a loss of life from someone who has been stuck in a rigid perception of reality.

That's something, at least to me.

Ever thought about the circumstances you want to awaken once you've exited this 3D reality?

Exited this 3D reality? Do you mean when I die? Then it will be game over, the big black. I will be brown bread and not awaking any circumstances. This rigid perception of reality has another definition, it's called being sane. When are you going to accurately predict a future event using HDD?

[The Man]

Why? In your case it would be a loss of life from someone who has been stuck in a rigid perception of reality.

That's something, at least to me.

Ever thought about the circumstances you want to awaken once you've exited this 3D reality?

"a rigid perception of reality" Dutch? That your perception of reality is tied exclusively to just your own intuitive "synchronicities" makes it perhaps the most rigid I have ever seen expressed.

Ever thought about the circumstances under which you might want to awaken once you've exited just your own intuitive ''synchronicities" driven and demonstrably 1D "reality" Dutch? Apparently not.

[Dutch]

Eart and Moon are on a cosmic Phi dance!!!

Only to unveil by our perception of time



Wake up!

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=15410&mforum=hddesign#15410

[Daylightstar]

Only in your deficient perception of reality.

[Dutch]

Still asleep but always here?

[Dutch]

what's wrong with the math?

[Orphia Nay]

Eart and Moon are on a cosmic Phi dance!!!

Only to unveil by our perception of time

Gobbledygook.

[dafydd]

Still asleep but always here?

I sleep eight hours out of every twenty four.

[dafydd]

Only in your deficient perception of reality.

Gibberish, even if it was couched in Nederlands.

[dafydd]

what's wrong with the math?

The basic idea of HDD is wrong. I am not qualified to comment on the maths. HDD is useless if you cannot predict future events accurately. Give me a prediction.

[Daylightstar]

Considering Dutch's trackrecord, It'll certainly be an incoherent jumble of rounded|truncated values which he claims provide an exact result when there's actually no such thing.
The usual retarded numerology.

[Dutch]

It's pretty much clear....

When Earth's orbital period expressed in days (number of rotations, with 9 digits behind the comma as base )......

Is base of a Golden Mean spiral.....( which is one of the basic elements in this HDdesign 'research' )

Gives a total of rotations of Earth.......

exactly matching our Moon's orbital position.....from beginning until the end....( as the Golden Mean is infinite, it matches with 4 digits rounded behind the comma)

It shows up just like that, by synchronicity......

That means that our Earth rotates exactly that fast in order to match with our's and the Moon's exact orbital period based on the Golden Mean.....

The same basic elements of intelligent design as described in the HDDesign materiel show up continuesly and consistently....

Either you have a lack of noticable IQ or your mind is just to rigid to comprehend.......

If you aren't flabbergasted.....you are lost.

[Dutch]

I sleep eight hours out of every twenty four.

Actually, you are asleep 24/7

Wake up wise guy!

[Dutch]

Considering Dutch's trackrecord, It'll certainly be an incoherent jumble of rounded|truncated values which he claims provide an exact result when there's actually no such thing.
The usual retarded numerology.

add the numbers in excel

Earth: 365,256363004
devide repeatedly by Golden Mean Phi: 1.61803399

add up in total, you will find 956,254 Earth days

( note that both Earth's orbital position aswell as the golden mean are rounded at 8 or 9 digits, behind the comma )


devide that with our moon's orbital period of 27,321582 Earth days....

you will find 34.9999 moon orbits.....

To think its just a coincidence is insane...

How much do you need?

[Little 10 Toes]

Wait, I got this one.

It's pretty much clear....

When Earth's orbital period expressed in days (number of rotations, with 9 digits behind the comma as base )...... Why 9? Why not 8? Why not 10?


Is base of a Golden Mean spiral.....( which is one of the basic elements in this HDdesign 'research' )

Gives a total of rotations of Earth.......

exactly matching our Moon's orbital position.....from beginning until the end....( as the Golden Mean is infinite, it matches with 4 digits rounded behind the comma) So it matches exactly, when rounding at 4 places? Why at 4 places? Why not 40? Why not 400? Why round since it "exactly matches"?

It shows up just like that, by synchronicity...... ... when you start manipulating figures.


That means that our Earth rotates exactly that fast in order to match with our's and the Moon's exact orbital period based on the Golden Mean.....when you start fudging numbers, and rounding them up and/or down.


The same basic elements of intelligent design as described in the HDDesign materiel show up continuesly and consistently....

Either you have a lack of noticable IQ or your mind is just to rigid to comprehend.......

If you aren't flabbergasted.....you are lost.

Check out these cool (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=law%20of%20fives) link (http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1024&bih=653&q=synchronicity+album+cover&gbv=2&oq=Synchronicity&aq=4&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=1785l1785l0l4440l1l1l0l0l0l0l142l142l0.1l1l 0#hl=en&safe=off&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=synchronicity+police&oq=synchronicity+police&aq=f&aqi=g1g-S5&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=160215l161242l0l162950l6l6l0l2l2l0l343l1055 l0.1.2.1l4l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=c9ba167048c0b318&biw=1024&bih=653)s. They give you something to think about synchronicity.

[dafydd]

It's pretty much clear....

When Earth's orbital period expressed in days (number of rotations, with 9 digits behind the comma as base )......

Is base of a Golden Mean spiral.....( which is one of the basic elements in this HDdesign 'research' )

Gives a total of rotations of Earth.......

exactly matching our Moon's orbital position.....from beginning until the end....( as the Golden Mean is infinite, it matches with 4 digits rounded behind the comma)

It shows up just like that, by synchronicity......

That means that our Earth rotates exactly that fast in order to match with our's and the Moon's exact orbital period based on the Golden Mean.....

The same basic elements of intelligent design as described in the HDDesign materiel show up continuesly and consistently....

Either you have a lack of noticable IQ or your mind is just to rigid to comprehend.......

If you aren't flabbergasted.....you are lost.

I missed the prediction.

[dafydd]

Actually, you are asleep 24/7

Wake up wise guy!

Wrong, as usual. I am awake for sixteen hours a day

[Dutch]

Why 9? Why not 8? Why not 10?

because it doesn't make a difference

[Daylightstar]

...
If you aren't flabbergasted..... ...

We know that your brain sprouts flabbergast you all the time.

[Daylightstar]

...
because it doesn't make a difference

The most apt description HDDelusion.

[Dutch]

Wise guys....

365,256363004

You want 10 digits?

Have you any idea what that means in seconds?

insane

Yet the moon confirms...

[Dutch]

at five digits it's a difference of a second

sleep well

[Daylightstar]

Right, and did you also claim an exact result?

[Little 10 Toes]

If it doesn't matter, and is less than a second, why do you do it? Why do you round some numbers but don't for others? You claim that it matches exactly, but why are you manipulating numbers?

The following are inconsistencies that are bolded:

It's pretty much clear....

When Earth's orbital period expressed in days (number of rotations, with 9 digits behind the comma as base )......

Is base of a Golden Mean spiral.....( which is one of the basic elements in this HDdesign 'research' )

Gives a total of rotations of Earth.......

exactly matching our Moon's orbital position.....from beginning until the end....( as the Golden Mean is infinite, it matches with 4 digits rounded behind the comma)

[snip]



add the numbers in excel

Earth: 365,256363004
devide repeatedly by Golden Mean Phi: 1.61803399

add up in total, you will find 956,254 Earth days

( note that both Earth's orbital position aswell as the golden mean are rounded at 8 or 9 digits, behind the comma )


devide that with our moon's orbital period of 27,321582 Earth days....

you will find 34.9999 moon orbits.....

To think its just a coincidence is insane...

How much do you need?

Why 9? Why not 8? Why not 10?

because it doesn't make a difference

Wise guys....

365,256363004

You want 10 digits?

Have you any idea what that means in seconds?

insane

Yet the moon confirms...

at five digits it's a difference of a second

sleep well

Numbers are matching "exactly"; using decimals out to 9 places when "it doesn't matter" and rounding some decimals to 4 places.

I never asked for 10 digits. I only asked why not 10, why not 8.

[Daylightstar]

Right, and did you also claim an exact result?

Oh look, you did.
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7791276&postcount=4591
As Little 10 Toes also pointed out.

Guess it is the jumble I expected it to be.

[Paul]

It's always the same, Dutch rounds to arbitrary digits, fails to use data to their available accuracy, manipulates randomly, changes his mind about whether accuracy is important or not, throws in a few of his favourite buzzwords, blames everyone for everything and fails to deliver anything of any substance or utility.

[Daylightstar]

It's his modus operandi, it's what he does.

[Dutch]

It's always the same, Dutch rounds to arbitrary digits, fails to use data to their available accuracy, manipulates randomly, changes his mind about whether accuracy is important or not, throws in a few of his favourite buzzwords, blames everyone for everything and fails to deliver anything of any substance or utility.


I used the known orbital periods and as a matter of fact Earth is given with 9 and moon with 6 digits. Nothing arbitrary here.

I don't understand what you mean with manipulation here

The Golden mean has an infinite digits, do you have one on your calculator?

Fact is that a Golden Mean based spiral based on Earth's orbital rotation matches with our moon's orbital position

[Mister Earl]

Dutch, did you ever get around to walking us through the complete process by which you make a prediction, from start to finish, including all the graphs, maps, and math so we could do the process ourselves to confirm your results by our own predictions?

[Dutch]

Dutch, did you ever get around to walking us through the complete process by which you make a prediction, from start to finish, including all the graphs, maps, and math so we could do the process ourselves to confirm your results by our own predictions?

Earl......

HDDesign is not about exact predictions, how many times have I told you?

a 'prediction' already changes the outcome if you trully understand what this is about

[The Man]

The Golden mean has an infinite digits, do you have one on your calculator?



Have what on my calculator? An infinite digit display? Nope, sorry. I used to have one but it just took forever to read.

Just for your own edification your calculated result can only be as accurate as your least significant digit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Least_significant_digit#Least_significant) number used in that calculation. So 34.5678 * 23.40 gives only a four significant digit result of 808.9


Following your description...


Earth: 365,256363004
devide repeatedly by Golden Mean Phi: 1.61803399

add up in total...




...you will find 956,254 Earth days

After 34 iterations. Why 34 iterations Dutch?

The difference between the current sum and the previous drops to below 3 decimal places at 29 iterations (sum 956.253058 difference .000318)





To think its just a coincidence is insane...



Well you got that right at least.

[The Man]

Earl......

HDDesign is not about exact predictions, how many times have I told you?

a 'prediction' already changes the outcome if you trully understand what this is about

Your 'predictions', even inexact, certainly hasn't changed the outcome that your dimensional design hype is jut one dimensional numerological nonsense.

[Orphia Nay]

You say you don't make predictions, then you say your predictions change the outcome. Thus, you DO make predictions, and failed ones at that. You are a liar and a failure.

[Dutch]

Predetermined expressions of underlying themes yes. Liar?

show me

P.S. the difference between the total duration of the golden mean spiral based on Earth's rotation in a year compared to the moon's exact position is , due to rounding, not enough to boil an egg

[Dutch]

Dutch, did you ever get around to walking us through the complete process by which you make a prediction, from start to finish, including all the graphs, maps, and math so we could do the process ourselves to confirm your results by our own predictions?

just follow the timelines, that's it

[Orphia Nay]

You say you don't make predictions, then you say your predictions change the outcome. Thus, you DO make predictions, and failed ones at that. You are a liar and a failure.

Predetermined expressions of underlying themes yes. Liar?

show me

I just did.

If they're predetermined but you "change" them, then they're not predetermined are they? You just proved yourself a liar and a failure.

[dafydd]

I used the known orbital periods and as a matter of fact Earth is given with 9 and moon with 6 digits. Nothing arbitrary here.

I don't understand what you mean with manipulation here

The Golden mean has an infinite digits, do you have one on your calculator?

Fact is that a Golden Mean based spiral based on Earth's orbital rotation matches with our moon's orbital position

Manipulatie, knoeien, aanrommelen, prutsen, verhaspelen.

[dafydd]

HDDesign is not about exact predictions

We have already got that. HDD is not about anything.

[Dutch]

just focus on the moon and the Golden Mean:):


First ever direct measurement of the Earth's rotation

Dec 28, 2011

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/First_ever_direct_measurement_of_the_Earths_rotati on_999.html

[Dutch]

BTW

Fi...ation

stands for 'Fibonacci based notation' :D

[Dutch]

I just did.

If they're predetermined but you "change" them, then they're not predetermined are they? You just proved yourself a liar and a failure.

This is how you show it?

facts please

[Dutch]

Manipulatie, knoeien, aanrommelen, prutsen, verhaspelen.

en de betekenis in dit geval, in context graag?

staat niet in het woordenboek, nu moet je zelf nadenken.

[Hans]

My semi-annual check on Dutch and this thread; lets see.......

After eight years

Still lying
Still no proof
Still thinks it will work
Still have people here trying to get a straight answer out of him....

lol

[Daylightstar]

...
After eight years

Still lying...

Indeed.
Manipulatie, knoeien, aanrommelen, prutsen, verhaspelen.en de betekenis in dit geval, in context graag?

staat niet in het woordenboek, nu moet je zelf nadenken.

Google translation:
Manipulation, mess, mess around, mess around, mistranslations.and the meaning in this case, like in context?

is not in the dictionary, now you must think for themselves.

The context was already provided in Paul's post (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7794890&postcount=4605) to which Dutch originally responded (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7810816&postcount=4607).

As has been demonstrated many times, Dutch will refer to non existent data, or he will pretend that existing data doesn't exist.
Dutch's dishonesty is staggering.

[Dutch]

I don't see any dishonesty, nor a lie

so

facts please

[Paul]

I don't see any dishonesty, nor a lieI think everyone would be amazed if you did.


facts pleaseThe problem with facts, for you, is that disagreeing with them doesn't change their nature.

[Orphia Nay]

I don't see any dishonesty, nor a lie

That's because you're also lying to yourself.

[Daylightstar]

I don't see any dishonesty, nor a lie

so

facts please

... or he will pretend that existing data doesn't exist.
...

Then don't look the other way.

[Dutch]

That's because you're also lying to yourself.

facts please, don't loose yourself.

Show the lies

[Daylightstar]

facts please, don't loose yourself.

Show the lies

... he will pretend that existing data doesn't exist.
...
Existing data already having been shown to him.

[Dutch]

and the lie is ?

[Paul]

and the lie is ?I'll give you a clue, the initials are HDD.

[Orphia Nay]

facts please, don't loose yourself.

Show the lies

OK, since you have an aversion to scrolling up...

a 'prediction' already changes the outcome if you trully understand what this is about

You say you don't make predictions, then you say your predictions change the outcome. Thus, you DO make predictions, and failed ones at that. You are a liar and a failure.

Since you need things spelled out again and again:

You make predictions. (But you lie and say you don't make predictions.)

Something else happens. (But you lie to yourself and think you changed events.)

The predictions fail. You lie to us and say you didn't predict anything and that the prediction didn't fail.

It could not be more obvious!!!

You lie, lie, and lie again.

I don't see any dishonesty, nor a lie

so

facts please

That's because you're also lying to yourself.

Stop lying to yourself, Dutch, and you will see the facts.

[Daylightstar]

and the lie is ?

Not "a" lie, many lies and dishonesties.
Let me show you a couple, besides the one Orphia Nay demonstrated:

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7429827&postcount=4496
(lying about mutual understanding)

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7405784&postcount=4405
(lying about not knowing about your demonstrated dishonesty)

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7401411&postcount=4370
(lying about: links which clearly demonstrate your dishonesty, supposedly being out of context)

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7401338&postcount=4362
(lying that you can't be nailed on dishonesty, after this dishonest lie had been elaborately demonstrated (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=6802560&postcount=4071))

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7401212&postcount=4338
(an installment of the 'it's over there trick')


You are a liar. plain and simple.

[Dutch]

explain the lie in your own words or keep silent


OMG!
Yesterday, while at work, I had to think about the reentry of Phobos Grunt, probably around January 16, 2012, in relation to Deep Impact on comet Tempel 1.
I thought that the specific Pi- based Design as described in HDDesign ( and HDDesign only ), which was first unveiled by the continued mission of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi with the scheduled and actual comet encounters and the Deep Impact/Epoxi-Earth-Moon Transit expressing Pi as described, could give indications of hidden underlying Intelligent Design.
I determined the 2 Pi points as described in HDdesign between Deep Impact on comet Tempel 1 on July 4, 2005, and the expected reentry of Phobos Grunt around January 16, 2012.
The first Pi point is around Venus Transit Midpoint around June 8, 2008, just after the 'artificial' Earth-Moon-spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi Transit, the event that led to the discovery of the specific Pi- based element of HDDesign, see timeline Q2 2008 here:
timeline Q2, 2008 April - May - June
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=299&mforum=hddesign
The second Pi point is around February 10, 2009. On that day a Russian and an American satellite collided over Siberia, creating a large amount of space debris.
That was yesterday
The 'confirmation' came today, ISS has to change course in order to avoid collision with this very same space debris caused by this satellite collission at Pi point

read on at HDDesign forum:

Q1 2012 timeline
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=566&mforum=hddesign
you can login with 'reader' password 'reader'

[Orphia Nay]

You're in denial, Dutch. The facts were in my own words, with supporting evidence. Give your scrutinizers the proper attention they deserve, instead of scrolling past them like you do news articles that don't support your prophecies when you're googling to get your next HDD post fix.

[dafydd]

explain the lie in your own words or keep silent


OMG!
Yesterday, while at work, I had to think about the reentry of Phobos Grunt, probably around January 16, 2012, in relation to Deep Impact on comet Tempel 1.
I thought that the specific Pi- based Design as described in HDDesign ( and HDDesign only ), which was first unveiled by the continued mission of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi with the scheduled and actual comet encounters and the Deep Impact/Epoxi-Earth-Moon Transit expressing Pi as described, could give indications of hidden underlying Intelligent Design.
I determined the 2 Pi points as described in HDdesign between Deep Impact on comet Tempel 1 on July 4, 2005, and the expected reentry of Phobos Grunt around January 16, 2012.
The first Pi point is around Venus Transit Midpoint around June 8, 2008, just after the 'artificial' Earth-Moon-spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi Transit, the event that led to the discovery of the specific Pi- based element of HDDesign, see timeline Q2 2008 here:
timeline Q2, 2008 April - May - June
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=299&mforum=hddesign
The second Pi point is around February 10, 2009. On that day a Russian and an American satellite collided over Siberia, creating a large amount of space debris.
That was yesterday
The 'confirmation' came today, ISS has to change course in order to avoid collision with this very same space debris caused by this satellite collission at Pi point

read on at HDDesign forum:

Q1 2012 timeline
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=566&mforum=hddesign
you can login with 'reader' password 'reader'

So what? Tell me why this is important and tell me what is going to happen.

[Dutch]

as above - so below
Colliding artificial manmade satellites
and colliding asteroids in space.....during the same timeframe
from the timeline Q1 2009, also with a another splendid 'artificial' Earth-Moon-manmade spacecraft 'transit'( how many 'coincidences' do you need to open up the 'rigid' mind?) :

read on at HDDesign forum

[Dutch]

You're in denial, Dutch. The facts were in my own words, with supporting evidence. Give your scrutinizers the proper attention they deserve, instead of scrolling past them like you do news articles that don't support your prophecies when you're googling to get your next HDD post fix.

I think it's just a bridge too far for you. You just refuse to try to really follow the HDDesign findings and how they fall in their place by 'coincidence' based on HDDesign

[dafydd]

as above - so below
Colliding artificial manmade satellites
and colliding asteroids in space.....during the same timeframe
from the timeline Q1 2009, also with a another splendid 'artificial' Earth-Moon-manmade spacecraft 'transit'( how many 'coincidences' do you need to open up the 'rigid' mind?) :

read on at HDDesign forum

So what? Satellites collide? There are over 13000 of them up there. There are a lot of asteroids too, the ISO Deep Asteroid Search indicates that there are between 1.1 million and 1.9 million 'space rocks' larger than 1 kilometre in diameter in the so-called 'main asteroid belt. You have the rigid mind. I still have no idea what this fatuous HDD is supposed to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfSaztUiw5s

[Daylightstar]

explain the lie in your own words or keep silent
...

No Dutch, your lies must be presented in your own words.
Like above:
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7914518&postcount=4633

Not "a" lie, many lies and dishonesties.
Let me show you a couple, besides the one Orphia Nay demonstrated:

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7429827&postcount=4496
(lying about mutual understanding)

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7405784&postcount=4405
(lying about not knowing about your demonstrated dishonesty)

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7401411&postcount=4370
(lying about: links which clearly demonstrate your dishonesty, supposedly being out of context)

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7401338&postcount=4362
(lying that you can't be nailed on dishonesty, after this dishonest lie had been elaborately demonstrated (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=6802560&postcount=4071))

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7401212&postcount=4338
(an installment of the 'it's over there trick')


You are a liar. plain and simple.

[Daylightstar]

as above - so below
Colliding artificial manmade satellites
and colliding asteroids in space.....during the same timeframe
from the timeline Q1 2009, also with a another splendid 'artificial' Earth-Moon-manmade spacecraft 'transit'( how many 'coincidences' do you need to open up the 'rigid' mind?) :

read on at HDDesign forum
Ridiculous text size reduzed to less delusional proportions by Daylightstar

Colliding asteroids or satellites have no bearing on the delusions of an insignificant dishonest dreamer.

[Dutch]

Since you need things spelled out again and again:

You make predictions. (But you lie and say you don't make predictions.)

Something else happens. (But you lie to yourself and think you changed events.)

The predictions fail. You lie to us and say you didn't predict anything and that the prediction didn't fail.

It could not be more obvious!!!

You lie, lie, and lie again.



Orphia darling,

You seem to disregard the fact that I don't make exact predictions. HDDesgn doesn't enable an observer to 'see' future as it will materialize. It's about predetermining the underlying themes that will find expression at specific moments in our perception of time. Besides this 'anticipation' on future events, HDDesign does enable the observer ( or observer/participant ) to get a better understanding of reality by applying the elements of HDDesign once they occur. The latter would be less convincable for you so I won't bother you with it. For me personally it's just as valuable ( excuse me for my typo's ).

I'm not a liar, nor am I dishonest. not once

[Dutch]

You're in denial, Dutch. The facts were in my own words, with supporting evidence. Give your scrutinizers the proper attention they deserve, instead of scrolling past them like you do news articles that don't support your prophecies when you're googling to get your next HDD post fix.

That's not the way it works, Orphia darling.

This material comes to light by synchronicities and intuitive thoughts in the first place, followed by understanding and monitoring in order to try to 'decipher'the deeper meaning.

You can get the proper attention but you have to realise you are not facing an easy task if you truly want to wrap your mind around this.
I don't think, at this stage, you are willing to even consider the possibility that hidden underlying Design even exists. But that's oke. You can ignore the overwhelming flow of coincidences and synchronicities. That's safe.

but it's a waste of opportunity you will once regret

[Paul]

You can ignore the overwhelming flow of coincidences and synchronicities. That's safe.At last we're getting somewhere, you've finally admitted that it makes no difference.

[Dutch]

Maybe we can try to get a 'real' conversation. Let's stop quoting parts of previous posts and try to bring our contributions to an acceptable level in order to try to get a better view what this is really about. I'm willing

[Dutch]

dafydd, I do understand your confusion and I'm willing to explain. I really prefer a direct way of conversation, as far as it's possible on a forum, let's just try to seek a normal and open discussion on these issues

[Paul]

Maybe we can try to get a 'real' conversation.We've been doing that for nearly 5 years.


Let's stop quoting parts of previous postsThat's how we tell what we're replying to.


try to bring our contributions to an acceptable levelI'm sorry you feel your contributions are unacceptably poor.


in order to try to get a better view what this is really about. I'm willingYou could start by answering all the question you ignored in the past.

[Dutch]

I see you don't get it. pitty

[Dutch]

Are you afraid for a direct conversation Paul?

[Paul]

Are you afraid for a direct conversation Paul?Have you considered behaving in an adult manner?

[Dutch]

I guess this means you don't really want this conversation to achieve an acceptable level.

[Daylightstar]

...
I'm not a liar, nor am I dishonest. not once

With this very statement you demonstrate to be dishonest and a liar.

Not once, many many times over.

[Daylightstar]

... overwhelming flow of coincidences and synchronicities. ...

This thread and all the other threads on many other free of charge forums show you are the only one being overwhelmed.

No one else is overwhelmed.

[Dutch]

No, you demonstrate in your own words, directly and without quoting parts of previous posts, why you think I am a liar abd dishonest

[Paul]

No, you demonstrate in your own words, directly and without quoting parts of previous posts, why you think I am a liar abd dishonestYou do not tell the truth and you then do not tell the truth about the previous lack of truthfulness.

[Daylightstar]

I guess this means you don't really want this conversation to achieve an acceptable level.

This is dishonest as well.

Your earlier 'desire' for 'mutual understanding' (see list above) has been demonstrated to be a lie.

Acceptable to this forum, means reality based. Not delusion based.

[Daylightstar]

No, you demonstrate in your own words, directly and without quoting parts of previous posts, why you think I am a liar abd dishonest

'Previous posts' are your very own words, the lies that you tell, accompanied with explanations why they are lies.

If you are too stupid to understand plain english....your problem.

[Dutch]

Paul, try to increase the level. Com'on

[Daylightstar]

Paul, try to increase the level. Com'on

Unfortunately, the HDDelusion weighs this thread down.

[Dutch]

Day, HDDesign is exactly about what reality comprehends. You are still hiding. In your own words please and explain

[Paul]

Paul, try to increase the level. Com'onStill demonstrating how you want this conversation to achieve an acceptable level I see.

[Dutch]

I hear you day, it's difficult to be polite and talk at acceptable level

[Daylightstar]

Day, HDDesign is exactly about what reality comprehends. You are still hiding. In your own words please and explain

You act like a fraud, thinking you are exceptionally smart while at the same time demonstrating extreme dishonesty and utter stupidity.

But in your state of 'mind' you can not understand this.

[Dutch]

I think I have to let it go for now

[Paul]

I hear you day, it's difficult to be polite and talk at acceptable levelIt's not difficult at all, most of us manage it all the time.

[Daylightstar]

I hear you day, it's difficult to be polite and talk at acceptable level

Yes Dutch, it's quite noticeable that this is quite challenging for you.

[Daylightstar]

I think I have to let it go for now

Good idea. But you'll be back, expressing your delusion. You have to.

[Dutch]

I don't want to be harsh on you guys, but......

[Paul]

I don't want to be harsh on you guys, but......Ooh, go on, surprise us...

[Dutch]

You 2 just lack the level, but that's oke, I accept that. It's normal, because it has to do with 'spectrum'

[Paul]

You 2 just lack the level, but that's oke, I accept that. It's normal, because it has to do with 'spectrum'You'd better go away then, and take your superior attitude with you.

[Daylightstar]

I don't want to be harsh on you guys, but......

You 2 just lack the level, but that's oke, I accept that. It's normal, because it has to do with 'spectrum'


A complete dud. What else could it have been.

[Dutch]

Your inability of starting a normal conversation is inherent to the psychological aspects of the implications of this HDdesign 'research'. I don't blame you, I have respect for you. Spectrum. Expressions of consciousness at individual level, always giving balance to the whole

[Paul]

I thought you were going away.

[Daylightstar]

He said so half an hour ago. But as usual, Dutch's words have no value.

[Dutch]

Not when I'v seen the first post without a quote

[Daylightstar]

There's one right above you latest post.

[Dutch]

I do have a question, may I ?

[Paul]

Is it a stupid question, or do you actually have something to contribute?

[dafydd]

Orphia darling,

You seem to disregard the fact that I don't make exact predictions. HDDesgn doesn't enable an observer to 'see' future as it will materialize. It's about predetermining the underlying themes that will find expression at specific moments in our perception of time. Besides this 'anticipation' on future events, HDDesign does enable the observer ( or observer/participant ) to get a better understanding of reality by applying the elements of HDDesign once they occur. The latter would be less convincable for you so I won't bother you with it. For me personally it's just as valuable ( excuse me for my typo's ).

I'm not a liar, nor am I dishonest. not once

You mean the bits that you cherry pick out of the news. The Dutch medical and education systems have let you down badly.

[Dutch]

Is that a yes, unconditionally?

[dafydd]

Expressions of consciousness at individual level, always giving balance to the whole

Is that supposed to mean something? Sounds like new age woo to me.

[Paul]

Is that a yes, unconditionally?If that's in reference to the question, you don't need anyone's permission.

[dafydd]

If that's in reference to the question, you don't need anyone's permission.

He's waiting for HDD to give him the go-ahead at a conscious individual level.

[Paul]

He's waiting for HDD to give him the go-ahead at a conscious individual level.We may be some time.

[dafydd]

We may be some time.

I still have no idea what HDD is supposed to do, apart from amusing us.

[Paul]

I still have no idea what HDD is supposed to do, apart from amusing us.I think it also stops Dutch shouting at random strangers in the park.

[dafydd]

I think it also stops Dutch shouting at random strangers in the park.

Yes, it keeps him off the streets.

[Dutch]

Yes I know it sounds like that to you dafydd, I think you have to take in to consideration that there´s a possibility taht consciousness, in all it´s aspects, is in fact the underlying driving force of all that exists in our limited 3D perception of reality. Progress in understanding of our scientific understanding of reality cannot be achieved without incorporation of consciousness itself. Steven Hawking himself thought 20 years ago we would know it all in 10 years, still waiting. Consciousness is everything.

[Daylightstar]

I still have no idea what HDD is supposed to do, apart from amusing us.

Not much, it's just Dutch's Crutch.

Try to say that fast ten times.

[dafydd]

Yes I know it sounds like that to you dafydd, I think you have to take in to consideration that there´s a possibility taht consciousness, in all it´s aspects, is in fact the underlying driving force of all that exists in our limited 3D perception of reality. Progress in understanding of our scientific understanding of reality cannot be achieved without incorporation of consciousness itself. Steven Hawking himself thought 20 years ago we would know it all in 10 years, still waiting. Consciousness is everything.

Try reality sometime, you might like it. What is HDD for? All you have done is give us old news and tell us that satellites and asteroids collide. I can do that too. If you had predicted something then I might take notice.

[Paul]

Aww, isn't that cute, a half-arsed sort of appeal to authority.

Try lighting some incense Dutch it might help the vibes.

[Daylightstar]

... Consciousness is everything.

The grass is always greener on the other side.

[Dutch]

I truly want to know, Paul, what you actually FEEL while dealing with this HDDesign material, or for that matter in me in person

[dafydd]

I truly want to know, Paul, what you actually FEEL while dealing with this HDDesign material, or for that matter in me in person

I feel sorry for you and your long suffering family. As for HDD, I feel that is a load of delusional nonsense.

[Dutch]

dafydd, you won´t get it easy and without commitment.
I give the opportunity, it´s up to you.

[dafydd]

dafydd, you won´t get it easy and without commitment.
I give the opportunity, it´s up to you.

Sorry, you lost me there. What is that supposed to mean? I don't want anything that you have to offer. I live in the real world. What is HDD for?

[Paul]

I truly want to know, Paul, what you actually FEEL while dealing with this HDDesign material, or for that matter in me in personUsually amusement, sometimes a little frustration, occasionally boredom, always incredulity, perhaps hunger, intermittently pity, periodically a wistful sense of futility...

you get the idea.

[Dutch]

I´m not giving something you don´t want against your will.
I do appreciate an open mind on the issues at hand and I haope we can continue the conversations at the latest level. I do have to apologige because it´s a quarter before 2 o´clock here and I have I busy schedule tomorrow. I have to go to sleap now, talk to you later.

take care

[Paul]

I do appreciate an open mind on the issues at handExcellent, tomorrow we can start with why you think coincidences, misunderstanding, misrepresentation, cherry picking news items, and the unstructured and inaccurate manipulation of figures leads to special revelations.

[dafydd]

Excellent, tomorrow we can start with why you think coincidences, misunderstanding, misrepresentation, cherry picking news items, and the unstructured and inaccurate manipulation of figures leads to special revelations.

What revelations?

[Daylightstar]

What revelations?

It's a euphemism for Dutch's inaccurate predictions.
... I don't make exact predictions. ...

Not exact ....... inaccurate, all the same thing.

[Daylightstar]

I´m not giving something you don´t want against your will. ...

More dishonesty.

When some time ago one of your rule 4 violations was moderated, you reposted the exact same stuff again divided across normal and 'quoted' text by you, from your earlier post, as if your posting was shorter than the normal text and quoted text (all from a moderated posting) combined.
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=6451761&postcount=3444
You started that infraction ignoring post with:
If my posts have to be split in halfs, than I am the one to do so.

It is essential that it has been read what I have to tell, ...

You do want to 'give' people something against their will. You are arrogantly trying to force it down people's throats.

[not_so_new]

Is this thread really from 2007? And it is still being discussed? Really?...... realllly?

[Daylightstar]

Discussing is maybe not quite the right word, but Dutch still suffers from a compulsion to force his delusion onto other people.

[Wolrab]

Once again Dutch, I am going to show you the superiority of Plastic Dimensional Design over the foolishness you spout.

Sunday January 15 the Grunt Spacecraft is expected to fall back to Earth. This is another obsolete spacecraft returning to Earth for the last time.


Using my specially crafted formula, we see that the starting date is the 202nd day of 2011. Jan.15, 2012 is 178 days later (365-202=163 63+15=178).

The plastic constant (p), as everyone knows, is 1.324. Squaring that we get 1.75296. Because I write the rules we multiply that by 10 and get 175.

The first news report I heard of the Grunt crash day was two days ago (175 days after the start date) from this article dated Jan.11, 2012: http://www.space.com/14215-phobos-grunt-mars-probe-crash-indian-ocean.html

Completely accurate and all the MATH is there for all to see.
I could make it more precise if I use the exact length of the year but since the original prediction was : I will demonstrate that something will happen, however vaguely related to the Space Shuttle Atlantis landing for the final time (from a space mission).

I am now 3 for 3. All my stuff is directly related to space craft coming back to Earth. Very specific, none of the wacky convolutions you use.

How do you explain my incredible accuracy?

[The Man]

Must be some Plastic Dimensional communication!!!



I for one welcome our new Plastic Dimensional overloads.


At least they ain’t try’n to tell us to stay out of space and give up nuclear power as Dutch claims his “Hyper” dudes are. Heck seeing as we are in space and use nuclear power, even use nuclear power in space. They’re apparently just a bunch of hyper whimps who seemingly can only get their way with Dutch. Evidently despite being purportedly “Hype Dimensional” they can only communicate using one dimension (time) and then only to one person (Dutch). Hardly a glowing review nor demonstrative of any particular capabilities other than just taking up Dutch’s time. Hey come to think about it, maybe that ain’t half bad after all, way to go hyper dudes.

[Orphia Nay]

I´m not giving something you don´t want against your will.
I do appreciate an open mind on the issues at hand and I haope we can continue the conversations at the latest level. I do have to apologige because it´s a quarter before 2 o´clock here and I have I busy schedule tomorrow. I have to go to sleap now, talk to you later.

take care

Your mind is closed to all the thousands of faults HDD has. This thread is proof of that.

You will not accept anything less than total devotion to HDD. You must be sorely disappointed.

[Blue Mountain]

Dutch, can you take a look at this thread (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=227431) and let us know what you think? Has KingFisher2926 discovered the greatest secret since HDD? Or his he deluded and chasing a chimera?

[Dutch]

I am disappointed Orphia....

I still don't see any progress in you or some of the other responsers, but that's oke.

It's what has to be expected unfortunately....it has to do with polarity/balance.

I would have liked to have an open conversation with you guys and dolls about these subjects at hand, based on mutual respect, but I guess it's a bit much to ask.

Some of you give credence to a very limited perspective of reality, you hide behind a facade of presumed intelligent rational understanding our reality, while there are numerous indications that should explore your mind and understanding to the next level.

It's a waste if you don't

Dutch

[dafydd]

I am disappointed Orphia....

I still don't see any progress in you or some of the other responsers, but that's oke.

It's what has to be expected unfortunately....it has to do with polarity/balance.

I would have liked to have an open conversation with you guys and dolls about these subjects at hand, based on mutual respect, but I guess it's a bit much to ask.

Some of you give credence to a very limited perspective of reality, you hide behind a facade of presumed intelligent rational understanding our reality, while there are numerous indications that should explore your mind and understanding to the next level.

It's a waste if you don't

Dutch

You will have to present something intelligent to discuss, not HDD,

[Daylightstar]

Or even just an actual subject.

[Wolrab]

No response about the stunning superiority of Plastic Dimensional Design, I see.

[Daylightstar]

...
I would have liked to have an open conversation ..., based on mutual respect, but I guess it's a bit much to ask.
...

You certainly failed.
With all your lying, dishonesty and disingenuousness, you are effectively acting against your claim above.

Some lousy ambassador for your new age crap you are.

[dafydd]

You certainly failed.
With all your lying, dishonesty and disingenuousness, you are effectively acting against your claim above.

Some lousy ambassador for your new age crap you are.

Can a one man band have an ambassador?

[Daylightstar]

No response about the stunning superiority of Plastic Dimensional Design, I see.

It probably messes with his
...polarity/balance. ...

[Daylightstar]

Can a one man band have an ambassador?

In fantasy land anything is possible :D

[dafydd]

polarity/balance

A glass of Grolsch in each hand?

[Daylightstar]

A glass of Grolsch in each hand?

One glass (his) empty, the other glass (ours) full.

[Sideroxylon]

I am disappointed Orphia....

I still don't see any progress in you or some of the other responsers, but that's oke.

It's what has to be expected unfortunately....it has to do with polarity/balance.

I would have liked to have an open conversation with you guys and dolls about these subjects at hand, based on mutual respect, but I guess it's a bit much to ask.

Some of you give credence to a very limited perspective of reality, you hide behind a facade of presumed intelligent rational understanding our reality, while there are numerous indications that should explore your mind and understanding to the next level.

It's a waste if you don't

Dutch

Obviously the problem is not with your good self, Dutch. It must surely lie with the numerous posters in this thread over the last five years or so, not to mention the lazy lurkers who can see merit in your ideas but fail to help you elaborate and support them.

[Dutch]

I do apreciate what you are saying here Sid,

but for me it seems it comes with the message. It's inherent to such a complex 'out of the box' approach of reality, based on intuition and synchronicities in the first place, but intelligently explainable with the rational mind.

Although some might doubt it, I do have a rational mind.

I'm just smart enough to listen to intuition first and to give notice to synchronicities, before I use the ego based ratio.

What I do is not about recognition towards me as a person, nor do I expect others to support what I'm doing.

What does counts, is what seems to be unveiled by dealing with this material.

For me it's just as much a supprise as for those who try to follow it, so it is to be expected that most readers will limited themselves to absorb without response, and that's oke. Some may understand it's not as much a point of discussion, but rather an ( disputable for most ) unveiling point of view of our reality, which seems overwhelming intelligent for those who are able to comprehend.

But it's not easy.....

and despites all efforts here: it has never been debunked and it will never be

[Sideroxylon]

I do apreciate what you are saying here Sid,

but for me it seems it comes with the message. It's inherent to such a complex 'out of the box' approach of reality, based on intuition and synchronicities in the first place, but intelligently explainable with the rational mind.

Although some might doubt it, I do have a rational mind.

I'm just smart enough to listen to intuition first and to give notice to synchronicities, before I use the ego based ratio.

What I do is not about recognition towards me as a person, nor do I expect others to support what I'm doing.

What does counts, is what seems to be unveiled by dealing with this material.

For me it's just as much a supprise as for those who try to follow it, so it is to be expected that most readers will limited themselves to absorb without response, and that's oke. Some may understand it's not as much a point of discussion, but rather an ( disputable for most ) unveiling point of view of our reality, which seems overwhelming intelligent for those who are able to comprehend.

But it's not easy.....

and despites all efforts here: it has never been debunked and it will never be

I have an invisible dragon in my garage that no one has ever debunked either.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof

Either your have failed badly in communicating your idea over all these years, it is completely inscrutable to all others and can only be understood and interpreted by its high priest*, or it is a compete load of nonsense.

ETA: *And the high priest of an utterly useless idea, as you have admited your grandiose claim is devoid of any predictive power.

[The Man]

I do apreciate what you are saying here Sid,

but for me it seems it comes with the message. It's inherent to such a complex 'out of the box' approach of reality, based on intuition and synchronicities in the first place, but intelligently explainable with the rational mind.

Rational minds have explained it to you many times, you find your synchronicities simply because you want to and you manipulate your one dimensional calculations to archive that egotistical goal.


Although some might doubt it, I do have a rational mind.

I'm just smart enough to listen to intuition first and to give notice to synchronicities, before I use the ego based ratio.

Yet evidently not smart enough to realize that listening to your own " intuition first" is simply a product of your ego.



What I do is not about recognition towards me as a person, nor do I expect others to support what I'm doing.

What does counts, is what seems to be unveiled by dealing with this material.

And once again all that is unveiled is your ego.




For me it's just as much a supprise as for those who try to follow it, so it is to be expected that most readers will limited themselves to absorb without response, and that's oke. Some may understand it's not as much a point of discussion, but rather an ( disputable for most ) unveiling point of view of our reality, which seems overwhelming intelligent for those who are able to comprehend.

But it's not easy.....

and despites all efforts here: it has never been debunked and it will never be



"which seems overwhelming intelligent for those who are able to comprehend."???

You have succumb entirely to your ego and evidently it surprises no one but you.

[Daylightstar]

I do apreciate what you are saying here Sid,

but for me it seems it comes with the message. It's inherent to such a complex 'out of the box' approach of reality, based on intuition and synchronicities in the first place, but intelligently explainable with the rational mind.

Although some might doubt it, I do have a rational mind.

I'm just smart enough to listen to intuition first and to give notice to synchronicities, before I use the ego based ratio.

What I do is not about recognition towards me as a person, nor do I expect others to support what I'm doing.

What does counts, is what seems to be unveiled by dealing with this material.

For me it's just as much a supprise as for those who try to follow it, so it is to be expected that most readers will limited themselves to absorb without response, and that's oke. Some may understand it's not as much a point of discussion, but rather an ( disputable for most ) unveiling point of view of our reality, which seems overwhelming intelligent for those who are able to comprehend.

But it's not easy.....

and despites all efforts here: it has never been debunked and it will never be
Bolding by Daylightstar

These are just dishonest words.
Your publicly displayed behavior demonstrates clearly that you do not have a rational mind.
This, is what has been unveiled.

Rational (what you evidently are not) and rationalizing (what you do for yourself ...) are two different things.

None of the items in your wishful thinking have been unveiled. No intelligent explanations have been offered by you, dishonesty and lying, yes. Intelligent explanations, not a shred.

[Wolrab]

What's to debunk? I took a random constant and made (shoehorned) predictions immeasurably more accurate than anything HDD has done. Mine were even PREdictions that happened on pre-announced dates. How do you explain that Dutch?

[Dutch]

Are you proud now sid?

[Dutch]

Sorry man, I've skipped yous post. You know I don't read nor respond to split posts.

Try another time

[Dutch]

Bolding by Daylightstar

These are just dishonest words.
Your publicly displayed behavior demonstrates clearly that you do not have a rational mind.
This, is what has been unveiled.

Rational (what you evidently are not) and rationalizing (what you do for yourself ...) are two different things.

None of the items in your wishful thinking have been unveiled. No intelligent explanations have been offered by you, dishonesty and lying, yes. Intelligent explanations, not a shred.

dishonest? never. Do I have an irrational mind? all people who know me think to the opposite.

start using your brains

[Dutch]

What's to debunk? I took a random constant and made (shoehorned) predictions immeasurably more accurate than anything HDD has done. Mine were even PREdictions that happened on pre-announced dates. How do you explain that Dutch?

wow! I think you should share if you think it will stands

[Paul]

wow! I think you should share if you think it will standsPerhaps you should read the thread instead of pretending you're important and whining like a baby when no-one agrees.

[Paul]

Sorry man, I've skipped yous post. You know I don't read nor respond to split posts.And you should know that we don't care if you are a juvenile narcissist.

[The Man]

Sorry man, I've skipped yous post. You know I don't read nor respond to split posts.

Once again if this is intended for me, my user name is “The Man” and as further admonishments it is Ill advised of you to claim you don’t “respond” to such posts in a response to such a post nor is claiming you won't read a post much of a deterrent as you don’t seem to read them (or respond) very well anyway.




Try another time


Lie another time Dutch.

[Daylightstar]

dishonest? never. Do I have an irrational mind? all people who know me think to the opposite.

start using your brains

Dishonest? Yes! All the time. Never? You tell this lie all the time.

As you know, I wasn't referring to what you claim the people that know you (in real life supposedly) think of you.
...
Your publicly displayed behavior demonstrates clearly that you do not have a rational mind. ...
It'll be somewhat challenging to check up on that claim of yours.

What we can check however, is the blatant irrationality you publicly display on this and many other sites, and this evidence clearly shows that you have an irrational mind, and are falsely claiming the opposite.

So much dishonesty coming from you.

[Daylightstar]

...
start using your brains
Okay.

... Do I have an irrational mind? all people who know me think to the opposite.
...
I don't think you really believe this yourself.

Your claim reminds me of your colleague's telephone conversation.
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=7289805&postcount=4140
...
The fact that the synchronicity with my collegue saying "between the moon and Mars", instantly unveiled the periapsis between Phobos and Mars in miles, as the missing link on a paper waiting on my desk for months until the synchronicity would occur that made me understand the connectedness.
...Ah yes, the story from your 'incredible' 'update' in which you wrote:

"My colleague was on the phone with someone and he was obviously talking about another guy when he said that he thought the guy was a little bit ‘lost’, that it looked as if this guy was not here with his mind, but somewhere between the Moon and Mars."

where you displayed the apparent need to state that this colleague was "obviously talking about another guy".

Again, why would you need to state that this was obvious and why was it obvious, according to you?
You appear to have an issue with that remark of your colleague, even now, as this event appears to be the crux of your latest post.

See also:
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=6942384&postcount=4099

[Sideroxylon]

Are you proud now sid?

Why should I be? Have I made you see sense that this is a load of bollocks?

[Wolrab]

Posted by Dutch 21st July 2011, 12:21 PM
#4309
“and still you guys don't dare to try to do the same with random underlying themes for random future dates for an extended period of time ( not based on HDdesign).

So why don't you start with it? you can help eachother if you like”Posted by me 21st July 2011, 03:40 PM
#4311
“I'll do it.
On Thursday, July 21, 2011 the last Space Shuttle mission ended as the Shuttle Atlantis landed.
By using (hold while I decide what constant I need to use......"i" is too obvious, but probably the most applicable....ah-ha! "p", the plastic constant!) p, the plastic constant, I will demonstrate that something will happen, however vaguely related to the Space Shuttle Atlantis landing for the final time (from a space mission).

The first time line is simple. It is just Day 0 + p = significant event.
HERE IS MY MATH for everyone to follow along:
July 21 + 1.3 = July 22.

My first prediction is that something related to Atlantis returning will happen tomorrow. (as this is the plastic constant, I alone can decide how large the window of opportunity is).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_number

Now, going further out requires more advanced math. July 21 is the 202nd day of the year so if that is multiplied by p, we get the next significant dates by adding the result to the date and the result itself is another significant date.

HERE IS MY MATH!!1!11!
202 x 1.324=267.448
On both April 13, 2012 and September 24, 2011.

I will astound you all with my accuracy as soon as I shoehorn events am aware of the events. “Posted by me 22nd July 2011, 09:36 PM
#4318

“Plastic Dimensional Physics

Just perusing the news and, as I expectedpredicted, there was a slew of events related to the shuttle Atlantis' last mission. Seeing as how it only landed yesterday, I will magnanimously not consider most of those massive hits to my Atlantis Timeline. One thing did stand out, though:
Astronomers Find Largest, Oldest Mass of Water in Universe


http://www.space.com/12400-universe-...oud-water.html

If you can't see the connection, permit me....
Ancient= Plato's Atlantis
Massive amounts of water= c'mon, it was a freakin' SUNKEN continent.
Where? In space.
When= story released today. It took the light from this thing 14 billion years to reach Earth and the story is released today? What are the odds? (1:1).That is just the obvious hits. What say Dutch? “Posted by me 24th July 2011, 03:59 PM
#4355

“So Dutch, what do you think of my astonishing hit with my new Plastic Dimensional Physics (PDP)? More dead balls accurate than most of the stuff you put up, for sure.

This is an official invite for anyone to use PDP to predict the future after it has passed. The only stipulation is that (unlike some) you must SHOW THE MATH! As plastic implies, there are many ways the math can be twisted and bent to fit. If there are several of us, we won't miss as much and hits won't slip by unnoticed as often.

The constant is :P=1.32471795724474602596…

Some of the same rules apply as with HDD. There is a window of opportunity of a day and a half on either side. If it didn't happen in the predicted year, wait til the next.
P can be massaged in any way possible so long as it is documented (this means SHOW YOUR MATH!) You can add, subtract, multiply, divide, square, cube, or raise to any power + or- or fractional, use of derivatives, integrals, and i is not only allowed, it is encouraged.

A hit can be confirmed if it can be argued to have something in common with the original event. Any event past, present, or future. has a PDP timeline.

Let's take Dutch up on his challenge! “Posted by me 23rd September 2011, 09:22 AM
#4535
“I could not have hdDesigned a better hit for my Plastic Dimensional Proofacies! Today (hopefully after midnight GMT) a satellite is expected to fall to Earth. Coming back to Earth for the last time, just like the Space Shuttle Atlantis did when I single handedly discovered Plastic Dimensional Physics. HDD has never given a hit as perfect as this. And I SHOWED THE MATH!”Posted by me 25th September 2011, 05:48 AM
#4539
I would love to retire with a 100% hit rate, but I still have the April 2012 date. Even if I blow that one, a 50% hit rate is better than HDD has been able to muster. Posted by me 14th January 2012, 04:51 PM
#4706


Plastic Dimensional Design

Once again Dutch, I am going to show you the superiority of Plastic Dimensional Design over the foolishness you spout.

Sunday January 15 the Grunt Spacecraft is expected to fall back to Earth. This is another obsolete spacecraft returning to Earth for the last time.


Using my specially crafted formula, we see that the starting date is the 202nd day of 2011. Jan.15, 2012 is 178 days later (365-202=163 63+15=178).

The plastic constant (p), as everyone knows, is 1.324. Squaring that we get 1.75296. Because I write the rules we multiply that by 10 and get 175.

The first news report I heard of the Grunt crash day was two days ago (175 days after the start date) from this article dated Jan.11, 2012: http://www.space.com/14215-phobos-gr...ian-ocean.html

Completely accurate and all the MATH is there for all to see.
I could make it more precise if I use the exact length of the year but since the original prediction was : Quote: I will demonstrate that something will happen, however vaguely related to the Space Shuttle Atlantis landing for the final time (from a space mission). I am now 3 for 3. All my stuff is directly related to space craft coming back to Earth. Very specific, none of the wacky convolutions you use.

How do you explain my incredible accuracy?

[Dutch]

and your point is, Wolrab?

[Daylightstar]

and your point is, Wolrab?

Some say there are no dumb questions. Yours makes me disagree with that.

I ave told you before, try for yourselves without HDDesign and come to the conclusion how little your perspective in fact is
Bolding by Daylightstar
... and Wolrab appears to have a better perspective than you.

[Dutch]

are you wolrab?

[Dutch]

so elaborate and write about his better perspective compared to HDDesign and use your own words

[Daylightstar]

so elaborate and write about his better perspective compared to HDDesign and use your own words

Wolrab already did, in the post you replied to. Perhaps you should read it.

[Dutch]

Why don't you take his challenge wise guy?

Why don't you guys and dolls help eachother for an extended period of time based on Wolrab's constant?

Do it and debunk HDDesign with it

or think twice before you think you have something essential to mention

[Daylightstar]

Don't worry about Wolrab needing help, Wolrab appears quite capable with PDP.

You on the other hand ....

[Dutch]

So, apparently you can't, or you depend on wolrab to help you out with this.

Its about time you come with something. Can you explain why PDP ( whatever it is ) stakes hold and HDDesign does not?

content please

[Dutch]

home alone Day? or just waiting for support?

[Daylightstar]

So, apparently you can't, or you depend on wolrab to help you out with this.

Its about time you come with something. Can you explain why PDP ( whatever it is ) stakes hold and HDDesign does not?

content please

Did I not just suggest to you that you read Wolrab's post (content)? It could prevent you from asking dumb redundant questions.

Until now, HDDesign HDDelusion has resisted all attempts to be demonstrated as real.
Perhaps you should rather occupy yourself with that deficiency.

[Dutch]

That's your definition of content?

You are limited

[Dutch]

Whether you like it or not, I gonna push you beyond these limits

[Dutch]

Still waiting for support?

[Dutch]

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