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Dutch
23rd February 2007, 11:57 AM
This thread is dedicated to the search for indications of hidden underlying multidimensional design just underneath the surface of our familiar 3-dimensional reality.

During the last couple of years I have developed methods of research in order to try to identfy these indications. Because it's always easy to elaborate on correlations after the fact, I wil focus on anticipations prior to the monitored events days in order to give a deeper meaning to the described Design.

The methods are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics elements, mathematics, intuitive knowledge, synchronities etc.

The thing is, that the triggerpatterns I use are indeed based on math, but the events on the triggerpatterns that I mention are always posted PRIOR to the monitored anticipated events date. It's easy to find correlations after a fact by using numerology, the issue here is : are we able to determine underlying patterns with related events, so we can anticipate on future events in order to lessen the impact of undesired effects in our reality. so we can learn on a more subtle level, instead of just another 9/11 related event to happen in order to wake us up.

Don't forget the intuition too. I have experienced almost daily that while working with this kind of info, an initial thought or coincidence shows me the way to new related information.

I have had so much 'in the face' moments during the last 3 years that I know that these patterns are there. But it's a journey, I can't convince anyone. I can only promise one thing: If someone decides to investigate this seriously and really starts to put aside the rational ego and keeps an open mind, than synchronity will become apparent and coincidences start to become meaningfull. Don't expect scientific proof, we don't have the time to wait for that

Now this is not about predicting future events.
It isn't about stopping patterns , it isn't about just trying to alter them. It's about changing the 'energy' involved.

Kind a 'Heisenberg princible' at macro level, with positive energy (love) as driving force.

If enough people are aware, the effects could be lessened, so we can learn on a more subtle level.

The greater the awareness, the more subtle reality becomes.

I don’t want to avoid things to happen, I just want to understand the reality we live in.
I have had a hard time too, accepting the possibility that our reality could be based on ‘designed patterns ‘bleeding’ through from other dimensional realms.
I’m not just playing with numbers, I’m a trying to apply Hyper Dimensional Physics in our understanding of our 3 dimensional reality. How HD Physics could become visible in our reality, not only visibly as Earthchanges on Hyperdimensional spots and throughout the solar system, but also in our perceptive of time. The Golden Mean time spirals are there to give essential meaning to at first sight unrelated events in our reality. It’s very ancient knowledge too, just waiting out there to be rediscovered.

I will post a timeline 2007 with anticipated keydates for the first few months once I'm able to post the urls

Apathia
23rd February 2007, 12:27 PM
Welcome to the JREF! Prepare for a ride!
I believe you are just the person David Jordan has been searching for.
See him here:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=75387

Buckaroo
23rd February 2007, 12:32 PM
And? What exactly are you claiming here?

tkingdoll
23rd February 2007, 12:37 PM
I am stuck in a tesseract! Help me!

RecoveringYuppy
23rd February 2007, 01:03 PM
Had to move on to four dimensional bras?

Fnord
23rd February 2007, 01:14 PM
Welcome aboard, Dutch.

1) What are your credentials? Please provide earned degrees, date of completion, majors and minors, and universities attended. Please do NOT just say "I'm a professional/scientist/professor/whatever" and expect us to fill in the blanks, as this is a Red Flag of Woo.

2) What have you published? Please provide publication names, dates of publication, titles of articles, names of collaborators, and the names of members on your peer-group review boards. Please do NOT just give vague references to classified governmental, military, commercial, or private documents, as this is a Red Flag of Woo.

3) Why are you persuing this line of research? Is it in line with any of your previous research? How do your credentials (see #1) support this line of inquiry? Please do not just say "I am curious," as this is a Red Flag of Woo.

4) How are you persuing this line of inquiry? Please describe the laboratory you are using, and include the types of equipment you use in your research. If your research is currently theoretical only, then please site the reference materials, as well. Please do not merely give a vague and general description, as this is a Red Flag of Woo.

5) Finally, who is financing your research? Please list the names of the financial resource agencies. If your research is out of your own pocket, then please say so and explain why. Please do not just say "Donors who wish to remain anonymous," as this is a Red Flag of Woo.

Raise one or more of the aforementioned "Red Flags" and you may as well admit to being a mere dreamer involved in pseudo-science, rather than a professional involved in real scientific research. Good Luck.

-Fnord of Dyscordia-

Crazycowbob
23rd February 2007, 01:18 PM
I am stuck in a tesseract! Help me!

Bad Teek, no hyper-donut :P

T'ai Chi
23rd February 2007, 01:54 PM
n-dimensions would be weird. A 1 inch hypercube in n-dimensions could hold the Empire State building on its diagonal, given a large enough n.

Crazycowbob
23rd February 2007, 02:03 PM
n-dimensions would be weird. A 1 inch hypercube in n-dimensions could hold the Empire State building on its diagonal, given a large enough n.

Is it still called a hypercube if n>4?

KingMerv00
23rd February 2007, 02:09 PM
I have had so much 'in the face' moments during the last 3 years that I know that these patterns are there. But it's a journey, I can't convince anyone. I can only promise one thing: If someone decides to investigate this seriously and really starts to put aside the rational ego and keeps an open mind...

I will not put aside my rationality for anyone.

...than synchronity will become apparent and coincidences start to become meaningfull. Don't expect scientific proof, we don't have the time to wait for that

You declare your idea to be an offshoot of physics but you don't have time to apply science?

T'ai Chi
23rd February 2007, 02:18 PM
Is it still called a hypercube if n>4?

As far as I know.

GodMark2
23rd February 2007, 04:23 PM
Welcome aboard, Dutch.

1) What are your credentials?

2) What have you published?

3) Why are you persuing this line of research?

4) How are you persuing this line of inquiry?

5) Finally, who is financing your research?

-Fnord of Dyscordia-


Heck, I'll be a lot more lenient than Fnord, here.

1) What is your reproducible, user-independent evidence?

Theory is fine, but, without evidence, it's just mental mastrubation.

Cecil
23rd February 2007, 04:26 PM
n-dimensions would be weird. A 1 inch hypercube in n-dimensions could hold the Empire State building on its diagonal, given a large enough n. 305 million dimensions should suffice.

The hardest part would be getting the angles right.

Apathia
23rd February 2007, 04:40 PM
Theoretical Physists are gathering around the new Large Hadron Collider hoping to spot specific events that would evidence small curved dimensions and possible 5th neighboring spatial dimension. But I get the impression this isn't what the OP is talking about, except in the usual fashion of using frontier scince terms for metaphysics. So I don't think we are going to see from hir some scientific evidence for hyperspace.

Oh, Dutch beware, this is a skeptics forum, and while we don't hate philosphy and metaphysics (Well, some do.) the overarching desire here is to have physical facts and evidence for any discription of the behavior of nature.

Prepare for the tomatos! Don't take those who throw them too personally.
Take it that you have been led here by the Universe to learn a new way of seeing.

Fnord
23rd February 2007, 05:42 PM
Heck, I'll be a lot more lenient than Fnord, here.

1) What is your reproducible, user-independent evidence?

Theory is fine, but, without evidence, it's just mental mastrubation.

You call a request for evidence leniency? Here I was hoping to fill his argument so full of little holes that there would be more empty space than fabric, and you come along and nuke his statement en toto!

:D

Cool!

fuelair
23rd February 2007, 07:58 PM
Dutch seems to have been kidnapped. Or something.



But yes on first read he/she sounds like a perfect fit for DJ (that dirty troll!!!).

Is it just me or do we smell romance (a new name for it) in the air!!??

Quinn
23rd February 2007, 08:47 PM
Warning sign #1:

I have had so much 'in the face' moments during the last 3 years that I know that these patterns are there.

Warning sign #2:

I can't convince anyone.

Warning signs #3, 4 & 5:

I can only promise one thing: If someone decides to investigate this seriously and really starts to put aside the rational ego and keeps an open mind, than synchronity will become apparent and coincidences start to become meaningfull. Don't expect scientific proof, we don't have the time to wait for that

Warning sign #6 (the "classic"):

It's about changing the 'energy' involved.

And finally, the grand-slam you knew was coming: the deluge of impenetrable jibber-jabber...

I’m a trying to apply Hyper Dimensional Physics in our understanding of our 3 dimensional reality. How HD Physics could become visible in our reality, not only visibly as Earthchanges on Hyperdimensional spots and throughout the solar system, but also in our perceptive of time. The Golden Mean time spirals are there to give essential meaning to at first sight unrelated events in our reality.

Post your timeline, substituting [DOT] for the actual dots; folks here are smart and will figure it out. If your predictions A) are specific, B) are significantly less likely than random chance, and C) come true, then we'll talk.

Thing
24th February 2007, 02:56 AM
The methods are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics elements, mathematics, intuitive knowledge, synchronities etc.
That's all I need to hear. You've got nothing worth bothering with.

Dutch
24th February 2007, 03:05 AM
And? What exactly are you claiming here?

I'm not claiming anything, I more or less try to identify indications of possible hidden underlying Design in our reality. The theories aren't developed enough to prove anything scientifically, but the 'coincidences' that pop up in the material repeatedly seem to indicate that there could indeed be underlying timecoded patterns in our reality

Dutch
24th February 2007, 03:14 AM
Fnord,

What I do has nothing to do with scientific research, when I call it "researc" it's always between ""

tmackean
24th February 2007, 03:21 AM
Utterly, utterly bonkers mad.

Mad as box of particularly hyperactive frogs listening to techno beats. At least I think so; I've read Stephen Hawking's 'A Brief History of Time' but I skipped the chapter where he described how Golden Mean Time Spirals powered by Love reveal patterns of synchronicity in the Universe.

Here's the contradiction;

(to paraphrase)

"My predictions are based on hard math!"

"None of this can be proved using rational thought"

Translation;

"I'm chucking around cool New Agey science terms like Hyper Dimensional Physics to ascribe meaning to coincidence, but there's just no way of proving that coincidence happens in anything other than a completely random way, so we just, like, BELIEVE!"

We're asked to put aside rationality. What do we replace it with? Irrationality? I guess if we do that, we could be a bit mental too.

Dutch
24th February 2007, 03:23 AM
Theoretical Physists are gathering around the new Large Hadron Collider hoping to spot specific events that would evidence small curved dimensions and possible 5th neighboring spatial dimension. But I get the impression this isn't what the OP is talking about, except in the usual fashion of using frontier scince terms for metaphysics. So I don't think we are going to see from hir some scientific evidence for hyperspace.

indeed


Oh, Dutch beware, this is a skeptics forum, and while we don't hate philosphy and metaphysics (Well, some do.) the overarching desire here is to have physical facts and evidence for any discription of the behavior of nature.

Prepare for the tomatos! Don't take those who throw them too personally.


I know I can expect the tomatos, I'm used to that...initially


Take it that you have been led here by the Universe to learn a new way of seeing.


that would be the objective for everyone

Dutch
24th February 2007, 03:27 AM
The Hyper Dimensional dates based on Platonic Solid Geometry originate from other dimensional realms and therefor it's only by Geometry that their existence could be unveiled, as they are invisible in our 3 dimensional reality.

As Hyper Dimensional Physics has everything to do with rotation, our solar system with all it's rotating elements, could be considered the 3 dimensional counterpart of a Hyper Dimensional system, at least that's what my research is trying to get confirmed.

The Hyperdimensional initiated activities in our solarsystem become visible by 3 dimensional activities on the determined interference points based on Platonic Solid geometry

The Tetrahedron is a Platonic Solid that unveils it's existence at the well known location of 19.47 degrees North and South latitude when placed within a closed sphere, such as the Sun or a planet.

With our perception of time, it is different. When a Hyper Dimensional Platic Solid is placed upon Earth's orbit around the Sun, they aren't directly visible because they originate from another dimension. If you want to visualize it , than the solids would look in our dimensions as flat and rolled-over (placed upon Earth's orbit around the Sun )
Their existences can only unveiled by Geometry and the interference points on Earth's orbit correspond with our system of dates.
Because of the fact that there are more days in a year than degrees in a circle, time differences on Earth and unknown exact 3D length of the Hyper Dimensional interference points, we should always extend the timeframe with a correction of +/- 1 day for each determined date.
Hyper Dimensional dates:
Our Earth makes a turn around the sun of 360 degrees. When a hyper -tetrahedron is placed upon that circle our Earth is making, than the Tetrahedron intersection points can be determined. The interference points are placed 19.47 degrees above and below the line 90-270 degrees on the circle. So 90 degrees + and - 19.47 degrees and 270 degrees + and - 19.47 degrees
or from the start of the year in our perspective: 90 degrees minus 19.47 = 70.53 times 365/360 = 71.5 days
In other words, our earth crosses the HD Tetrahedron ( originating from another dimension!) interference point in the eather 70.53 days after the start of the year.
This way the dates March 11-12 , April 21 , September 11 and October 21 are determined:
(90 - 19.47) times 365/360 = day 71.5 or March 12 +/- 1 day
(90 + 19.47) times 365/360 = day 111 or April 21 +/- 1 day
(270 - 19.47) times 365/360 = day 254 or September 11 +/- 1 day
(270 + 19.47) times 365/360 = day 293 or October 20 +/- 1 day
The other Platonic solids also give interference points or dates in our perspective, like the Cube dates for sinstance:
45 times 365/360 = day 45 or February 14 +/- 1 day
135 times 365/360 = day 137 or May 17 +/- 1 day
225 times 365/360 = day 228 or August 16 +/- 1 day
315 times 365/360 = day 319 or November 15 +/- 1 day
Hyperdimensional Octahedron dates ( at equator):
April 1-2
October 1
The Hyper Dimensional Octahedron and Tetrahedron Pole dates are on the start/end of a year and July 2
Be aware of the fact that leap years will have a slightly different outcome
When we talk about our perception of time and Hyper Dimensional Design we are not looking at a 3D closed sphere (such as a planet ). Earth travels through a point in (Hyper)space and the Tetrahedron or Cube etc reveils it's existence by Geometry.

Dutch
24th February 2007, 03:31 AM
The dates on the timeline were determined in 2006 with a few additions ( mentioned in the related thread)

All dates are +/- 1 day. Not only because of the time differences on Earth but also because these dates are in fact related to Geometrically determined specific area's on Earth's orbit around the Sun, corresponding with our system of dates. How large these specific ares are is unknown but I normally use the +/- 1 day correction, although it might be valid to extend the window. Consider the given dates as 'peak' dates, getting momentum towards and lessening in effect afterwards.
I will mention the dates with a short explanation and/or keywords, or a link to the related threads for specific information
The list will be updated regularly and developments will be monitored and anticipated on in the related threads
December 31, 2006 / January 1, 2007 - Hyper Dimensional Pole date. Freedom Tower. end date/ start date on the ongoing 'exit of SunKing' (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=3086&mforum=hddesign#3086) timecoded pattern.
Saddam (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=234&mforum=hddesign) hanged
January 5, 2007 - Deep Impact becomes 911 trigger
Comet McNaught
http://spaceweather.com/comets/gallery_mcnaught.htm
January 10, 2007 - Deep Impact becomes 555 trigger
Updated Jan. 10:New Comet is Brightest in 30 Years
http://space.com/spacewatch/070104_comet_mcnaught.html
China confirms satellite downed (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6289519.stm)
January 13, 2007 - start date on the ongoing 7-4-7 based July 7 London Bombings timecoded pattern. 555 endtrigger date related to the July 7 London bombings
Blast at U.S. Embassy in Athens called 'serious attack' (http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/01/12/athens.blast/index.html)
21 July 'bomb plot' trial starts (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6261899.stm)
January 18, 2007 - Deep Impact on a 911 based inspiralling (563 days)
Dwarf planet 'becoming a comet' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6268799.stm)
Deep Impact Galactica, posted on January 18: http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/deepimpact-galactica.htm
another Deep Impact event in space:
China Tests Anti-Satellite Weapon (http://quickstart.clari.net/voa/art/fj/2007-01-18-voa73.html)
China test sparks space arms fears (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6278867.stm)
Concern over China's missile test (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6276543.stm)
US demands answers on China test (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6281247.stm)
January 19 - 22 - the 'sevens' and 'heart of the 4' of the London Bombings timecoded pattern, with the most significant related date:
Tube shooting letters to be sent (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6275225.stm)
Lords could hear Menezes appeal (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6279957.stm)
Friend 'helped bomb plot accused' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6286271.stm)
Two held in Halifax terror raid (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6289581.stm)
January 21, 2007 - 911 / Golden Mean Phi after the July 7 london Bombings. link (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=14&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&mforum=hddesign).triggerdate related to flight 522
Algerian terror suspect deported (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6281593.stm)
triggerdate related to flight 522:Protesters barricade Beirut roads
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6288503.stm
January 25, 2007 - related to 'ascension endtriggerdate' Deep Impact
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v117/Dutch23031965/deepimpact1.gif
January 27, 2007 - A terrorist attack on London, similar to the July 7 attacks, becomes 555 triggerevent
July bomb suspect 'strolled away' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6302203.stm)
Safety fears for terror suspects (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6304677.stm)
January 28, 2007 - Also becomming triggerevent: A Brazilian electrician, Jean Charles de Menezes, is shot dead at a London underground station by police who mistake him for a suicide bomber.

February 1, 2007 - Imbolc Cross-quarter day. Saddam . link (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=197&mforum=hddesign)
555 triggerevent: July 26 - STS-114: The Space Shuttle Discovery is launched on its "Return To Flight" mission
Another terror plot in the UK, see update below
Terror raids over 'beheading plot',CNN:
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/01/31/uk.terror.arrests/index.html
Sea Launch Destroyed On Pad In Fiery Explosion
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Sea_Launch_Operations_To_Be_Resumed_Despite_Liftof f_Failure_999.html
The exit of Sun King theme is also hitting this key date:
Defiant Blair rejects quit calls
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6323149.stm
February 4, 2007 - Sharon
February 6, 2007 - triggerdate related to flight 522
from Goro: Mayan Contact Midpoint, see update below
Syria 'can broker peace in Iraq'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6332479.stm
Iran setting up atomic centrifuges
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/05/iran.nuclear.ap/index.html
A surprise UN-Lebanese signing establishes the Special Hariri Tribunal. Damascus expected to fight back inside Lebanon and on Israel’s northern borders
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=3816

February 11, 2007 - Venus Century Hirhoshima. triggerdate related to flight 522
Iran: Giant achievements coming soon
Ahmadinejad: On February 11, Islamic Republic's nuclear rights 'will be established' http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3360816,00.html
added on Feb 11,Putin: U.S. pushing others into nuclear ambitions
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/10/putin.us.ap/index.html
and: Iran insists on nuclear programme
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6351137.stm
US accuses Iran over Iraq bombs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6351257.stm
Iran's leader condemns US claims
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6353923.stm
Democrats wary over Iran claims
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6352899.stm
Iran: Nuclear announcement coming in April
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/11/iran.nuclear/index.html
N. Korea nuclear talks drag on over energy aid
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16967996/
February 14, 2007 - Hyper Dimensional Cube date. The Hariri Killing, Casus Belli WWIII ? (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=70&mforum=hddesign#70). Venus Century Nagasaki
Nagasaki on the 555 starttriggers
'Deal reached' at N Korea talks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6355681.stm
N Korea 'agrees to disarmament'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6356481.stm
'Eleven die' in Lebanon bus bombs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6356271.stm
Tension high for Hariri protest
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6359669.stm
Iranian bombing kills 18 people
Iranian officials have accused Britain and the United States of supporting ethnic minority rebels operating in the Islamic republic's sensitive border areas.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6359971.stm
U.S.: Radical cleric al-Sadr in Iran
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/14/iraq.main/index.html
Fragile Lebanon needs urgent remedy
The double bomb attack on buses in the Christian mountains north-east of Beirut could not have been more provocative, coming at a time of extreme political tensions that had already taken Lebanon to the brink of civil war.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6357569.stm
An unknown Syrian group calls for prisoner exchange with Israel
http://www.debka.com/
Thousands flock to Hariri protest
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6359669.stm
Bush maintains pressure on Iran
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6362307.stm

February 15, 2007 - Hyper Dimensional Cube date. The Hariri Killing, Casus Belli WWIII ? (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=70&mforum=hddesign#70). triggerdate related to flight 522
2 Mercury Years in Earthdays after the 555 endtrigger related to the Hariri killing
Venus Century Nagasaki
Nagasaki on the 555 starttriggers
Madrid bombings trial to begin
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/14/spain.trial/index.html
Radical Shia cleric 'is in Iran'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6364193.stm
Saudis to purchase nuclear option
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=3838
Madrid bombings trial: Key defendant refuses to testify
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/15/spain.trial/index.html
Madrid trial suspects deny guilt
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6368327.stm

February 20, 2007 - 555 endtrigger related to the flight 522 crash
EXACTLY 106 Venus Years since Pearl Harbor. Cory Lidle's plane crash in NY: Mercury 'The Messenger' alignment. indications related to the exit of Assad clan in Syria
US 'Iran attack plans' revealed
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6376639.stm
Iran accuses American, British and Israeli secret services of plotting last Wednesday’s explosions in Zahedan, capital of Iranian Baluchistan
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=3857
anticipated 'Pearl Harbor' references:
US troops may attack nuclear and military targets in neighboring Iran when a high-casualty attack is traced directly to Tehran
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=3860
and
Deadly toxic bomb hits Iraqi town
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/20/iraq.main/index.html
Tehran seeks unconditional talks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6378289.stm
Syria urges dialogue with US on all issues
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070220/wl_mideast_afp/syriausdiplomacy_070220110324;_ylt=AhwINrYDXAq7o0L xl4oh0D4LtUsB
Tehran dismisses threat of force
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6380879.stm
The carrier USS John C. Stennis arrives in the region Monday at the same time as Iranian war games
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=3864
Iran 'swiftly seeks nuclear goal'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6381477.stm
Force won't work on nuclear issue, Iran says
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/20/iran.nuclear.reut/index.html
U.S. admiral questions Iran's motives
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/20/iran.us/index.html
February 23-24, 2007 - keydate related to the 'exit of Sun King', related to Anna Nicole marker event.
1 Venus Year after: 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict: Israeli troops invade Lebanon
3 Venus Years after April 19 - Papal conclave, 2005: Pope Benedict XVI (Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger) succeeds Pope John Paul II, becoming the 265th pope.
another indication:
New film shows JFK moments before assassination
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/19/jfk.film.reut/index.html
February 28, 2007 - 911 based Golden Mean timespiral flight 522 crash. breaking the Code (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=302&mforum=hddesign#302)
March 7, 2007 - triggerdate related to flight 522
March 12, 2007 - Hyper dimensional Tetrahedron
exactly 7 Mercury 'The Messenger' years in Earth days after Deep Impact on Temple I
March 17, 2007 - next inspiralling key date on the 911 based Golden Mean Phi spiral related to the landfall of Katrina in New Orleans
2 Venus years after: December 24, 2005 - Pope Benedict XVI leads his first Christmas Midnight Mass as Pope, praying for peace in the Middle East.
March 20, 2007 - Sharon.
108 Mercury Years after the awakenings starttriggerdate March 10, 1981 and 8 times 911 after ascension endtrigger date April 9, 1987. Both triggerdates are related to the Sabra and Shatila massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra-Shatila_massacre),Palestinean refugee camps in Beirut, Lebanon. Israeli Defense Minister at the time: Ariel Sharon. Exactly 5 Mercury Years in coma, hitting the Mercury Transit line of November 8, 2006 ( exactly 1.5 Mercury Years after the transit, or crossing the Transit Line on the other side of the Sun as at the time of the Mercury Transit.)

April 1-2, 2007 - Hyper Dimensional Octahedron
April 21/22 , 2007 - Hyper dimensional Tetrahedron, 911.522 after the start of the battle of Marathon ( started on Tetrahedron september 12, 490BC ) breaking the Code (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=3147&mforum=hddesign#3147)
May 2, 2007 - Golden Mean Phi based 'Srebrenica karma'. Washington.link (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=1296&mforum=hddesign#1296).
3 Mars years in Earth days since 9/11, 3 Mars years in earth days prior to the end of the Mayan Calender
from Goro: Mayan Contact Midpoint, see update below.
May 3, 2007 - Sharon
3 Mars years in Earth days since 9/11, 3 Mars years in earth days prior to the end of the Mayan Calender
from Goro: Mayan Contact Midpoint, see update below.
May 17, 2007 - Hyper Dimensional Cube date
June 2, 2007 - Balkan Karma, keep an eye on Mladic, Karadzic, Seslj etc. and those politically responsible for the Srebrenica massacre

Dutch
24th February 2007, 03:36 AM
The 'raw material'I have been able to save from the last few years has been copied to a forum for references. I also use the forum for the ongoing 'research'.

Hyper Dimensional Design:

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/index.php?mforum=hddesign

andyandy
24th February 2007, 04:10 AM
good grief.

tmackean
24th February 2007, 05:34 AM
Dutch,

You seem to be using some kind numerology. I notice recurrent references in your timelines to Flight 522. What is the significance of this flight in your methodology, and how does it relate to future events?

For instance;

"February 28, 2007 - 911 based Golden Mean timespiral flight 522 crash."

What should we be expecting on the 28th of Feb that we couldn't observe most other days?

cyborg
24th February 2007, 05:43 AM
Is it still called a hypercube if n>4?

Well since no-one else seems to be stepping forward...

Formally a hypercube of dimension d is a connected topology of 2^d nodes with each node having d neighbours such that each neighbour is unique.

The easiest way to consider this is to use a binary notation.

If you are at node 000 in a 3d hypercube (i.e. just a normal cube) then your neighbours are 100, 010 and 001. (That is you flip each bit to get your neighbours).

Now I don't know what hypercubes are supposed to be doing here but in my business they're useful because of the previous properties - it is highly connected and easy to reference your neighbours. Makes it simple to formulate log time based algorithms that act on them.

Taffer
24th February 2007, 06:34 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/8-cell.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract)

ETA: Because multi-dimensional geometry is weird, man.

ETA2: Has anyone here read "Diaspora" by Greg Egan? Firstly, it's awsome. Secondly, it goes into weird, higher dimensions. This is something I've never been able to visualise.

cyborg
24th February 2007, 06:43 AM
It's very hard to construct 'intuitive' visual representations - since we just don't encounter these sorts of constructs in an everyday way. That's why I like to think about this in the terms I outlined above - it is a hook into something I already understand. Association is learning after all.

MortFurd
24th February 2007, 06:46 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/8-cell.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract)

ETA: Because multi-dimensional geometry is weird, man.

ETA2: Has anyone here read "Diaspora" by Greg Egan? Firstly, it's awsome. Secondly, it goes into weird, higher dimensions. This is something I've never been able to visualise.
Wow.

I once used a PC and a plotter to compute and draw hyper cubes, but that animation is just way cool. Twenty years ago, the typical PC didn't have the kind of horsepower it takes to do that in real time.

Taffer
24th February 2007, 06:55 AM
It's very hard to construct 'intuitive' visual representations - since we just don't encounter these sorts of constructs in an everyday way. That's why I like to think about this in the terms I outlined above - it is a hook into something I already understand. Association is learning after all.

My problem is I'm always trying to visualise the darn things. Which, I understand, isn't easy. I blame my being stack in the outdated 3 dimensional reality, to be honest. Maybe oneday I'll upgrade, but I have to make sure my brain is compatable.

On a serious note, I'd really love to understand all this stuff. I'll have to go back and have a good, hard, think at your explanation.

Molinaro
24th February 2007, 10:04 AM
Our Earth makes a turn around the sun of 360 degrees. When a hyper -tetrahedron is placed upon that circle our Earth is making, than the Tetrahedron intersection points can be determined. The interference points are placed 19.47 degrees above and below the line 90-270 degrees on the circle.

But since the earth's orbit is an ellipse and not a circle doesn't that make everything that follows a bunch of bull? Or do you deny that the earth's orbit is an ellipse?

Dutch
24th February 2007, 11:39 AM
But since the earth's orbit is an ellipse and not a circle doesn't that make everything that follows a bunch of bull? Or do you deny that the earth's orbit is an ellipse?

The shape doesn't matter, it's about the geometrical intersection areas, corresponding with our system of dates

Dutch
24th February 2007, 11:47 AM
Dutch,

You seem to be using some kind numerology. I notice recurrent references in your timelines to Flight 522. What is the significance of this flight in your methodology, and how does it relate to future events?

For instance;

"February 28, 2007 - 911 based Golden Mean timespiral flight 522 crash."

What should we be expecting on the 28th of Feb that we couldn't observe most other days?

I will elaborate more on this next week. I barely post during the weekends as it's family time:) I have to put some things into perspective and that will take some time

Schneibster
24th February 2007, 12:53 PM
And finally, the grand-slam you knew was coming: the deluge of impenetrable jibber-jabber...Hey, give it a break, at least it didn't use "resonance." Of course, this thread is young yet.

Schneibster
24th February 2007, 12:57 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/8-cell.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract)Technically, the observer will note that the "glass sides" of this object are broken when the "inner cube" passes through them. The alternative, however, is to break the edges by bringing the "inner cube" out through an edge or a vertex.

fuelair
24th February 2007, 02:28 PM
Dutch,

You seem to be using some kind numerology. I notice recurrent references in your timelines to Flight 522. What is the significance of this flight in your methodology, and how does it relate to future events?

For instance;

"February 28, 2007 - 911 based Golden Mean timespiral flight 522 crash."

What should we be expecting on the 28th of Feb that we couldn't observe most other days?

He really needs to get together with Davidjayjordan! They are both incompetant in the same way - except DJ throws Dog around in addition to the numerology crap! To me, they're trolls whether they believe the silliness or not!

Yahzi
24th February 2007, 03:42 PM
All dates are +/- 1 day.
You are wrong. I present proof: TimeCube (www.timecube.com). Refute that!

Schneibster
24th February 2007, 04:17 PM
While kittens might be appropriate, I have found the material of the Ineffable Crab of Wisdom to be most effective in this regard.

The Atheist
24th February 2007, 07:08 PM
Ya gotta hand it to Dutch for being consistent.

He's got the same garbage here (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=30&showdate=2/20/07&messageid=113703&mpage=6), here (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=229&mforum=hddesign), here (http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/forum/search.php?search_author=Dutch), here, (http://www.thothweb.com) (needs registration, but the same stuff's there), here (http://www.sunstation.com/etemenanki/viewtopic.php?p=3890&highlight=&sid=e5593f7702afa3409425c0f8faf9baf0) and here (http://communities.anomalies.net/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&topic=2718&gonew=1), amongst others (http://www.fulldisklosure.org/smfnew/index.php?topic=6657.msg15626)....

Yep, his time on PCs is limited alright. But by the number of sites. Oh god, look at the time! It's 11:11. OMG! It's all TRUE!

Taffer
24th February 2007, 07:50 PM
Technically, the observer will note that the "glass sides" of this object are broken when the "inner cube" passes through them. The alternative, however, is to break the edges by bringing the "inner cube" out through an edge or a vertex.

:boggled:

That makes it much easier to visualise. :p

Taffer
24th February 2007, 07:51 PM
Ya gotta hand it to Dutch for being consistent.

He's got the same garbage here (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=30&showdate=2/20/07&messageid=113703&mpage=6), here (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=229&mforum=hddesign), here (http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/forum/search.php?search_author=Dutch), here, (http://www.thothweb.com) (needs registration, but the same stuff's there), here (http://www.sunstation.com/etemenanki/viewtopic.php?p=3890&highlight=&sid=e5593f7702afa3409425c0f8faf9baf0) and here (http://communities.anomalies.net/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&topic=2718&gonew=1), amongst others (http://www.fulldisklosure.org/smfnew/index.php?topic=6657.msg15626)....

Yep, his time on PCs is limited alright. But by the number of sites. Oh god, look at the time! It's 11:11. OMG! It's all TRUE!

It's True!

fuelair
24th February 2007, 07:57 PM
That would be TROLL!

DFTT!

Art Vandelay
24th February 2007, 11:03 PM
Formally a hypercube of dimension d is a connected topology of 2^d nodes with each node having d neighbours such that each neighbour is unique.Unique? You mean nonadjacent to the other neighbors? It appears that, in graph theory terms, you are allowing a hypercube to be any triangle-free, connected, k-regular graph with 2^k vertices.

This seems like a very broad definition which would admit different graphs, with the same k, which are not isomorphic, but which satisfy the definition. Do you disagree?

athon
25th February 2007, 03:51 AM
If only there was some way to tap the energy some people put into absolute nonsense such as this. Surely such illogical pattern searching has a use that mankind could benefit from?

ETA2: Has anyone here read "Diaspora" by Greg Egan? Firstly, it's awsome. Secondly, it goes into weird, higher dimensions. This is something I've never been able to visualise.

That book hurt my head. The stepping into 5-th dimension universes...I tried so hard to picture it, and the best I could manage was have a cubist-like 3 dimensional image in my head. I just couldn't do it.

The best I ever had it explained to me was to imagine an ant crawling alone a telephone line. I forget how that is relevant now. But it was a cool analogy when I heard it.

Athon

Taffer
25th February 2007, 04:32 AM
That book hurt my head. The stepping into 5-th dimension universes...I tried so hard to picture it, and the best I could manage was have a cubist-like 3 dimensional image in my head. I just couldn't do it.

Nor I. Up until that point, though, the book was, IMHO, really freaking cool. My favourite hard sci-fi by far. Followed closely by "Revelation Space" and the double novellas "Diamond Dogs, Turquoise Days", and pretty much anything else by Alastair Reynolds, who is awsome.

cyborg
25th February 2007, 08:39 AM
Unique? You mean nonadjacent to the other neighbors?

No, such that no neighbour is the same as a neighbour you already have, that is you will have d edges to d neighbours.

This seems like a very broad definition which would admit different graphs, with the same k, which are not isomorphic, but which satisfy the definition. Do you disagree?

Yes. For k < 3.

Isomorphism isn't really a big deal for my use of the hypercube however - effectively a different Gray code ordering is just as valid for the nodes since it is only the connectivity, rather than the shape, that interests me.

The Atheist
25th February 2007, 03:07 PM
That would be TROLL!

DFTT!



TROLL + :spam1 = :pythonfoot:

Art Vandelay
25th February 2007, 03:24 PM
No, such that no neighbour is the same as a neighbour you already have, that is you will have d edges to d neighbours.You mean, no double edges? (And presumably, loops are right out.) So it's just a k-regular connected simple graph with 2^k vertices? That's a really broad category.

cyborg
25th February 2007, 03:55 PM
You mean, no double edges? (And presumably, loops are right out.) So it's just a k-regular connected simple graph with 2^k vertices? That's a really broad category.

Ok.

DuckTapeFileMan
25th February 2007, 04:12 PM
you forgot The Bad Astronomy(BAUT) forum.

http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=45908

they tried to debunk old Dutch, but would he listen?

Orphia Nay
25th February 2007, 09:47 PM
Ya gotta hand it to Dutch for being consistent.

He's got the same garbage here (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=30&showdate=2/20/07&messageid=113703&mpage=6), here (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=229&mforum=hddesign), here (http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/forum/search.php?search_author=Dutch), here, (http://www.thothweb.com) (needs registration, but the same stuff's there), here (http://www.sunstation.com/etemenanki/viewtopic.php?p=3890&highlight=&sid=e5593f7702afa3409425c0f8faf9baf0) and here (http://communities.anomalies.net/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&topic=2718&gonew=1), amongst others (http://www.fulldisklosure.org/smfnew/index.php?topic=6657.msg15626)....

Yep, his time on PCs is limited alright. But by the number of sites. Oh god, look at the time! It's 11:11. OMG! It's all TRUE!

you forgot The Bad Astronomy(BAUT) forum.

http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=45908

they tried to debunk old Dutch, but would he listen?

Yep. Dutch also (re)posts his stuff at another (invitation-only) forum where I'm a member.

If you want to blame someone for the 'troll', blame me. :boggled: I mentioned Dutch in a thread in the CT forum, and used him as an example of a pseudo-Einstein. He must do regular searches for his name or HDD, because he found my post, in the same way as he found the thread I started at BAUT.

I wonder in how many other forums I have to mention him before his 'work' posting in forums and avoiding creating a testable method reaches critical mass? :rolleyes:

~enigma~
25th February 2007, 10:18 PM
But since the earth's orbit is an ellipse and not a circle doesn't that make everything that follows a bunch of bull? Or do you deny that the earth's orbit is an ellipse?
I wonder if he takes Kepler's laws of planetary motion into account? Particularly the second one.

Dutch, you ran away from the conspiracy forum with your tail firmly tucked between your legs. You trying to make it 2-0?

Dutch
26th February 2007, 01:29 AM
I wonder if he takes Kepler's laws of planetary motion into account? Particularly the second one.

The platonic solids originate from another dimension and onlt geometry unveils their existence, marked by high imopact event in our reality. The shape of the orbit isn't important because the solids don't have a 3D shape. The geometrical intersection area's on a 360 degrees orbit do correspond with our system of dates.


Dutch, you ran away from the conspiracy forum with your tail firmly tucked between your legs. You trying to make it 2-0?

I didn't ran away, I have a normal life so I spend my time at home with wife and kidds. Also, i have a normal job to do so I'm not always able to post much

Dutch
26th February 2007, 01:36 AM
Ya gotta hand it to Dutch for being consistent.

He's got the same garbage here (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=30&showdate=2/20/07&messageid=113703&mpage=6), here (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=229&mforum=hddesign), here (http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/forum/search.php?search_author=Dutch), here, (http://www.thothweb.com) (needs registration, but the same stuff's there), here (http://www.sunstation.com/etemenanki/viewtopic.php?p=3890&highlight=&sid=e5593f7702afa3409425c0f8faf9baf0) and here (http://communities.anomalies.net/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&topic=2718&gonew=1), amongst others (http://www.fulldisklosure.org/smfnew/index.php?topic=6657.msg15626)....

Yep, his time on PCs is limited alright. But by the number of sites. Oh god, look at the time! It's 11:11. OMG! It's all TRUE!

The HDdesign threads on other forums are listed on the HDDesign forum, I think there are more than 20. I prefer to use forums to discuss this stuff

Dutch
26th February 2007, 01:41 AM
you forgot The Bad Astronomy(BAUT) forum.

http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=45908

they tried to debunk old Dutch, but would he listen?

You are right, they tried. I think there are some nice examples in that thread that show these 'synchronicities'. This stuff needs time in order to see if it makes sense

Orphia Nay
26th February 2007, 01:50 AM
The platonic solids originate from another dimension

Do you have evidence for this?

and onlt geometry unveils their existence, marked by high imopact event in our reality. The shape of the orbit isn't important because the solids don't have a 3D shape.

What the ...?
:eye-poppi

You are right, they tried. I think there are some nice examples in that thread that show these 'synchronicities'. This stuff needs time in order to see if it makes sense

This stuff doesn't make sense now. Exactly!!

So why pursue it?

Dutch
26th February 2007, 01:54 AM
So why pursue it?


Because these HD dates will continue to show events at macrolevel that will be anticipated on

Molinaro
26th February 2007, 06:33 AM
So Dutch, why is it that you equate Jan 1st with a 0 degree orientation of the earth's orbit?

What basis do you have for deciding on one orientation over another as you orient your geometric solid and line it up to pick your dates?

Explain how you've taken something arbitrary like the point in the earth's orbit that we call Jan 1st and turned it into something absolute?

NeilC
26th February 2007, 07:00 AM
I can't believe it's a coincidence that he and DJJ both appear at the same time.

Cuddles
26th February 2007, 07:09 AM
I'm rather disappointed. I didn't find the word "quantum" anywhere there. How can you possibly talk about higher dimensions, coincidence and even Heisenberg without the Q word? I mean, we've even got hyper-tetrahedra here, and they sound pretty quantum to me. Possibly even quantum crystals.

Dutch
26th February 2007, 07:24 AM
So Dutch, why is it that you equate Jan 1st with a 0 degree orientation of the earth's orbit?

What basis do you have for deciding on one orientation over another as you orient your geometric solid and line it up to pick your dates?

Explain how you've taken something arbitrary like the point in the earth's orbit that we call Jan 1st and turned it into something absolute?

If indeed these key events happen in order to unveil this hidden underlying Design originating from other dimensional realms, than it's fair to assume that they way we use our calender is known. If we would have used another calender, these 'marker events' would have happened according to the geometrical correlations with that calender. The first 'marker events' 9/11 and the Madrid bombings unveiled the first 2 interference area's of the Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron. All other HD dates are determined with the same orientation

Dutch
26th February 2007, 07:26 AM
I can't believe it's a coincidence that he and DJJ both appear at the same time.
I have nothing to do with him

Dutch
26th February 2007, 07:28 AM
I'm rather disappointed. I didn't find the word "quantum" anywhere there. How can you possibly talk about higher dimensions, coincidence and even Heisenberg without the Q word? I mean, we've even got hyper-tetrahedra here, and they sound pretty quantum to me. Possibly even quantum crystals.

Well, I'm not a scientist and I don't know much about quantum physics, a good man has to know his limitations:) .

NeilC
26th February 2007, 07:30 AM
Seeing as events happen because of prior events those events because of events before then and so on and so forth, that would mean that every time we changed our calendar that the whole of history would have to happen differently. So when we alter a calender, does the entire past instantaneously change?

And what happened during the majority of human history where many calenders were in place? And what if I make up my own calender?

Cuddles
26th February 2007, 07:37 AM
If indeed these key events happen in order to unveil this hidden underlying Design originating from other dimensional realms, than it's fair to assume that they way we use our calender is known. If we would have used another calender, these 'marker events' would have happened according to the geometrical correlations with that calender. The first 'marker events' 9/11 and the Madrid bombings unveiled the first 2 interference area's of the Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron. All other HD dates are determined with the same orientation

So what about the billions of people that don't use the same calendar as you?

Molinaro
26th February 2007, 07:41 AM
So you decided that 9/11 and the Madrid bombings were so important as to provide an anchoring for your orientation of the geometric figures. That seems a realy odd decision to make. There are many other significant events that have taken place who's importance varies depending on where you live.

I'm afraid I have to say that your choice of orientation is arbitrary and hence meaningless, along with every conclusion you've decided to draw.

~enigma~
26th February 2007, 07:42 AM
I didn't ran away, I have a normal life so I spend my time at home with wife and kidds. Also, i have a normal job to do so I'm not always able to post much

So your assuming that people here do not have children, spouses or normal jobs?

Dutch
26th February 2007, 07:44 AM
Seeing as events happen because of prior events those events because of events before then and so on and so forth, that would mean that every time we changed our calendar that the whole of history would have to happen differently. So when we alter a calender, does the entire past instantaneously change?

And what happened during the majority of human history where many calenders were in place? And what if I make up my own calender?

No, this HD Geometry is always there, only these high impact events in our times happen on a moment in time we can be able to understand it because of the calender we use.

For instance, the Tiananmen Square protest could show these geometrical correlations as marker event based on the Chinese Calender.
This is just an example because I have never looked at it

Dutch
26th February 2007, 08:03 AM
So you decided that 9/11 and the Madrid bombings were so important as to provide an anchoring for your orientation of the geometric figures. That seems a realy odd decision to make. There are many other significant events that have taken place who's importance varies depending on where you live.

I'm afraid I have to say that your choice of orientation is arbitrary and hence meaningless, along with every conclusion you've decided to draw.

That's how this material emerged. There's this initial intuitive idea that shows the correlation instantly. I agree that is seems odd to make this decision but the idea popped up in mind and 9/11 instantly showed the geometrical correlation with the HD Tetrahedron. Of course this material suggest that there's hidden underlying intelligent design to all that happens and this Deisgn is too complicated to describe all that happens, but the marker events at macro level do mean something.
I was convinced enough about the validity of this HD dates system that I started anticipations on these specific dates during 2006. Currently, the understanding of the concepts made me feel sure enough to start the anticipations as menstioned on the 2007 timeline

Dutch
26th February 2007, 08:05 AM
So your assuming that people here do not have children, spouses or normal jobs?

No, I only said this because otherwise some will accuse me of not spending time with my family or doing a bad job. I have a low profile job providing enough money to live the life we want, but I also have time to do my thing 'in between'.

NeilC
26th February 2007, 08:05 AM
No, this HD Geometry is always there, only these high impact events in our times happen on a moment in time we can be able to understand it because of the calender we use.

For instance, the Tiananmen Square protest could show these geometrical correlations as marker event based on the Chinese Calender.
This is just an example because I have never looked at it

So Tiananmen Square doesn't "show up" in a Western calendar?

And older events only show up on calendars used at that time in the country the even happened?

Dutch
26th February 2007, 08:22 AM
Splossy,

I think i wasn't clear enough. Regardless the calender we use, each moment in time has connections with other moments in time based on this HD geometry

NeilC
26th February 2007, 08:25 AM
So you are saying that all events show up in all calendars?

~enigma~
26th February 2007, 08:39 AM
No, I only said this because otherwise some will accuse me of not spending time with my family or doing a bad job. I have a low profile job providing enough money to live the life we want, but I also have time to do my thing 'in between'.

No you said it to justify your not being here as much as alot of other posters. We can easily see through your holier than thou attitude.

Molinaro
26th February 2007, 08:40 AM
I'm afraid I have to call cherry picking. That is to say, you are picking dates that you have predetermined as important, then gone and fit the data (the orientation of shape of the geometric figures) to fit those conclusions (important events on those dates).

I don't believe, and you have not shown, that nothing significant occured on dates that do not fit your pattern.

For your analysis to have any meaning you would have to list all significant events.

Fnord
26th February 2007, 11:00 AM
Dutch,

Your statments have nothing more in common with real science than the words you use. You blew in on a cloud of woo, which will pass with the next change in the winds and tides of "New Age" pseudo-science.

Or, you can show me the math that will irrefuteably prove your claims.

-Fnord of Dyscordia-

~enigma~
26th February 2007, 11:18 AM
Dutch,

Your statments have nothing more in common with real science than the words you use. You blew in on a cloud of woo, which will pass with the next change in the winds and tides of "New Age" pseudo-science.

Or, you can show me the math that will irrefuteably prove your claims.

-Fnord of Dyscordia-Math???? Science???? He will reiterate that he does not use science as he already told us in the conspiracy forum. Then he will go on to tell us some bs about superposition and qubits as if he understands them himself (has he solved the paradox of Schrödinger's cat). Guess he is going to try to show us that the dates are somehow entangled with the predictions because of Platonic solids and that he is the only one that can correctly interpret the entanglement since we are all stuck intellectually on a brane in the third dimension while he is like a graviton and able to change dimensions at will. Dutch, go back to writing sci-fi and you might make a really good living :)

Fnord
26th February 2007, 11:21 AM
Math???? Science???? He will reiterate that he does not use science as he already told us in the conspiracy forum. Then he will go on to tell us some bs about superposition and qubits as if he understands them himself (has he solved the paradox of Schrödinger's cat). Guess he is going to try to show us that the dates are somehow entangled with the predictions because of Platonic solids and that he is the only one that can correctly interpret the entanglement sine we are all stuck intellectually on a brane in the third dimension while he is like a graviton and able to change dimensions at will. Dutch, go back to writing sci-fi and you might make a really good living :)
In other words, since he obviously can not impress us with brilliance, he will try to baffle us with bushllit.

Or something like that ... ;)

~enigma~
26th February 2007, 11:26 AM
In other words, since he obviously can not impress us with brilliance, he will try to baffle us with bushllit.

Or something like that ... ;)You are a man of few words but in this case they are the correct ones :)

Fnord
26th February 2007, 11:50 AM
"... he is the only one that can correctly interpret the entanglement since we are all stuck intellectually on a brane in the third dimension while he is like a graviton and able to change dimensions at will."

Have you ever read my posts on "The Operative Laws of Pseudo-Science" (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=73251)? The third law as posted seems to apply here, to wit:

3) "The Law of Cardinal Perspective: Only the asserting party possesses enough of the right kind of mental capability to fully understand every aspect of the assertion."

:D - Fnord


(PS: Didja ever notice that those who post the longest articles often have the least to say?)

GodMark2
26th February 2007, 05:16 PM
You call a request for evidence leniency? Here I was hoping to fill his argument so full of little holes that there would be more empty space than fabric, and you come along and nuke his statement en toto!

:D

Cool!

Well, I was only asking him one question, that he should aready have a ready answer for. You were asking him five questions that could require him to look a definition or two up in the dictionary, and then go searching for the information requested.

I see that he tried to answer my question down the page a bit, so I'll have to show him why that's inadequate.

GodMark2
26th February 2007, 05:32 PM
The dates on the timeline were determined in 2006 with a few additions ( mentioned in the related thread)

All dates are +/- 1 day. Not only because of the time differences on Earth but also because these dates are in fact related to Geometrically determined specific area's on Earth's orbit around the Sun, corresponding with our system of dates. How large these specific ares are is unknown but I normally use the +/- 1 day correction, although it might be valid to extend the window. Consider the given dates as 'peak' dates, getting momentum towards and lessening in effect afterwards.
I will mention the dates with a short explanation and/or keywords, or a link to the related threads for specific information
The list will be updated regularly and developments will be monitored and anticipated on in the related threads

Dutch,

Please explain how these events (on a non-notable day) are different than those from the days you listed as being 'important'. How can we tell on set of events from the other?

(Without a user-independant method of differing betwen the events, such events are not evidence of any difference in the days on which the events occured)

February 26, 2007: An absolutely nothing day according to the 'hyperdimensional crossing' method.

(from Google news)

World news:

IDF begins gradual Nablus withdrawal
3 Frenchmen killed in Saudi Arabia
Somalia: US Warship On Its Way to Place of Ship Hijack
Iraq VP wounded in bombing
Officials warn mum about overweight boy
UK court allows deportation of Islamic cleric
Hamas Seeks Russian Support In Moscow
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert Supports the Mecca agreement
Iraqi Cabinet Endorses Draft of Long-Awaited Oil Law, US Says
New Afghan force 'will act as a mobile reserve'
Deadly Guatemala jail riot ends
Hezbollah fighters build new line of defence
Papal intervention blamed for crisis

US news:
Vietnam war helicopter pilot awarded Medal of Honor
5 governors agree to fight greenhouse gases
Hollywoodland goes gaga over Obamamania
Former Ney Aide Pleads Guilty
Broomfield soldier 1 of 3 killed by bomb
FM Song to Visit US and Russia
Beebe arrives in Dumas to view tornado damage
Police: Florida Teen Kidnapping Suspect May Try to Flee to Mexico
Winter storm fizzles out
Fixes for accurate vote counts
Jaguar Mauls to Death Denver Zoo Employee
Judge Denies NYC's Request To Limit Ferry Damages

Other:
Florida Appeals Court Issues Stay In Dispute Over Smith's Body
Britney Spears Checks Into Promises: The Ritz of Rehab
US Speaker Pelosi backs new Iraq war authorization
Clinton Fights to Keep Impeachment Taboo
Friend: Racy pix not 'Idol' contestant
Filmmaker shows relics from disputed Jesus tomb
Libby case: judge dismisses 'exposed' juror
Kenseth bounces back with California win
XM Satellite Reports Narrower Loss as Sales Jump 45% (Update5)
Sony responds to new PS3 specs
Al Gore doesn't need the presidency
Ellen DeGeneres Too Nice As An Oscar Host
Energy Giant TXU to Go Private in $32 Billion Deal
Drug may boost Down's performance

tracer
26th February 2007, 06:29 PM
It is worth noting, however, that Dutch's technobabble bears a striking similarity to the Technobabble that Geordi LaForge used when he pulled the Enterprise out of a tough scrape each week.

"If we can quantum-manifold the hyperdimensinal bypass inhibitors, we can cause a synchrotron fluctuation in the subspace resonance field and hopefully restabilize the ambivulent bivationary falvebarms."

Dutch
27th February 2007, 02:06 AM
So you are saying that all events show up in all calendars?
regardless the calender, 9/11 and the Madrid bombings correspond with 2 'dots' of the HD Tetrahedron

Dutch
27th February 2007, 02:11 AM
GodMark2,

the keydates on the 2007 timeline are somehow connected to the already determined HD dates, marker events that already happened or ongoing timecoded patterns

I have a focus on the macro level, its just mnot possible to put everything that happens into perspective

Cuddles
27th February 2007, 05:15 AM
It is worth noting, however, that Dutch's technobabble bears a striking similarity to the Technobabble that Geordi LaForge used when he pulled the Enterprise out of a tough scrape each week.

"If we can quantum-manifold the hyperdimensinal bypass inhibitors, we can cause a synchrotron fluctuation in the subspace resonance field and hopefully restabilize the ambivulent bivationary falvebarms."

People often laugh at Star Trek for the bad acting, but anyone who can say that with a straight face must be an absolute genius.

~enigma~
27th February 2007, 12:30 PM
GodMark2,

the keydates on the 2007 timeline are somehow connected to the already determined HD dates, marker events that already happened or ongoing timecoded patterns

I have a focus on the macro level, its just mnot possible to put everything that happens into perspectiveConsidering the orbit isn't circular and the sun isn't in the center but at the focus (center of mass of BOTH earth and sun - the barycenter BOTH bodies orbit), does it matter if the sun is at the right focus, center or left focus? Wouldn't that throw a wrench in your HD bs?

Fnord
27th February 2007, 01:33 PM
"If we can quantum-manifold the hyperdimensinal bypass inhibitors, we can cause a synchrotron fluctuation in the subspace resonance field and hopefully restabilize the ambivulent bivationary falvebarms."

:jaw-dropp

WTF?!!

Everybody knows that you simply can NOT restabilize the ambivulent bivationary falvebarms without first running a full-system level-3 diagnostic and recalibrating the sub-quantum oscillating franistan matrix!

Nless ya'd be wantin ta bloo tha bloody ship ta pieces, woodya now laddie?

GodMark2
27th February 2007, 04:50 PM
GodMark2,

the keydates on the 2007 timeline are somehow connected to the already determined HD dates, marker events that already happened or ongoing timecoded patterns

That is your proposed hypothesis. It cannot be used as evidence for itself.

I have a focus on the macro level, its just mnot possible to put everything that happens into perspective

How can you tell the difference between important events and unimportant ones? If you could articulate some way to separate them, we would no longer have to deal with 'everything that happens'. We could then limit the discussion to the events that you claim should be correlated to these 'crossings'.

Alternatatively, what type of events should be predicted by your method? By knowing this, we could begin looking at all events that fit into that category to see if there is a correlation. There is no need to 'put everything that happens into perspective', only the events you claim to be affected.

If there is no way to differientiate between days asociated with a 'crossing' and other days, then of what use and/or meaning are these 'crossings'?

Dutch
16th March 2007, 12:42 PM
Sorry I haven't been here since late February. Let's take a look at the March event in relation to the key dates on the timeline:

February 28, 2007 - 911 based Golden Mean timespiral flight 522 crash. breaking the Code (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=302&mforum=hddesign#302)
U.S., Iran and Syria may talk face to face about Iraq
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/27/iraq.conference/index.html
'State of panic' after Baghdad car bomb kills 10
POSTED: 0911 GMT (1711 HKT), February 28, 2007
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/28/iraq.main/index.html
Although i don't understand the correlation yet, other than another 'symbolic crash', I do want to mention it here because of the timing of these problems for the stock markets:
Global markets struggle to recover from sell-off
POSTED: 1327 GMT (2127 HKT), February 28, 2007
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/BUSINESS/02/28/global.markets/index.html
White House: U.S. won't talk to Syria, Iran directly
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/28/iraq.conference/index.html
Eurovision 'Armageddon' in Israel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6405457.stm
North Korea pledges to quit nukes
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/03/01/nkorea.talks.ap/index.html
:!: The liquid explosives sought six months after foiled al Qaeda airline terror plot from the UK are found in Lebanon
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=3889
U.S. Concedes Uncertainty on North Korean Uranium Effort
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/01/washington/01korea.html?_r=2&hp=&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
March 7, 2007 - triggerdate related to flight 522
US and N Korea in landmark talks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6419975.stm
another 737 coming down:
Indonesia jet explodes on landing
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6425419.stm
US, North Korea end milestone talks on optimistic note
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070307/1/47417.html
March 12, 2007 - Hyper dimensional Tetrahedron
exactly 7 Mercury 'The Messenger' years in Earth days after Deep Impact on Temple I
update Goro to be expected
ongoing awakenings pattern Sharon as PM
Towering tribute marks Spain bombs
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/03/11/spain.trial.ap/index.html
Bush urges Iran, Syria to back up words with action on Iraq
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070312/1/477fl.html
Top EU official travels to Beirut ahead of historic Syria visit
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070312/1/477fv.html
ElBaradei arrives in China en route to NKorea
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070312/1/477cw.html
Nuclear chief warns over N Korea
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6440913.stm
Dubai airport shut after accident
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6440747.stm
Minister quits over Trident plans
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6441627.stm
Jet crash boxes fail to yield info
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/03/12/indonesia.plane.reut/index.html
Syria urges broader US dialogue
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6443015.stm
EU optimistic after Lebanon talks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6443527.stm
UN 'progress' over Iran sanctions
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6444409.stm
Pentagon: Key 9/11 suspects face judges at Gitmo
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/03/12/gitmo.hearings/index.html
Japanese passenger jet in dramatic emergency landing
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070313/1/47890.html
Russia warning pressures Iran over nuclear plant
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070312165838.vocezigu&show_article=1&catnum=2
Al Qaeda-Gaza declares war on both Palestinian rivals: Hamas and Fatah
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=3922
Major space missions move ahead
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6442827.stm
Libya 'may sign US nuclear deal'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6444831.stm
Trident sparks second resignation
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6445887.stm
Russia nuclear delay angers Iran
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6446163.stm
Report: ElBaradei unable to meet top N. Korea negotiator
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/03/14/nkorea.nuclear.talks.ap/index.html
Arrests over Lebanon bus bombings
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6448535.stm
What Has Tehran to Gain from Hizballah’s New Face?
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=article&aid=1260
N Korea 'yet to shut' nuclear site
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6448683.stm
Sea Launch Explosion Due To Engine Failure
http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Sea_Launch_Explosion_Due_To_Engine_Failure_999.htm l (http://travel.com/reports/Sea_Launch_Explosion_Due_To_Engine_Failure_999.htm l)
Key 9/11 suspect confesses guilt
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6452573.stm

Dutch
16th March 2007, 12:46 PM
last years anticipation on HD Tetrahedron timeframe around March 12 in comparison to 2007:

Prior to Hyper Dimensional date March 12, 2006 I wrote in anticipation:
From what I understand of the apparent indications of Multi Dimensional Design ‘bleeding’ through in our 3- dimensional reality, it seems that the timeframe around March 12 could be considered a key date on the emerging patterns.
The date March 12 in a non-leap year is comparable to September 11, both Tetrahedron based HD dates.
March 12 is also a key date on several time-coded patterns which are monitored here.
March 12, 2006 (+/- 1 day) coincided with the 'Balkan Karma' timecoded pattern and the death of Milosevic could be considered a hit as I wrote:
I expect some Syria related info, high impact or subtle. Hariri was killed on HD Cube date Feb 14 (2005).
The UN report accusing Syria was published on the last Tetrahedron date October 21 (2005).
==snip==
we are talking about 9/11 related events here with a nuclear theme on the background
another possibility is that someone will be taken out by Design
The 2 major underlying themes of the Design of our times as mentioned repeatedly in the material are:
"Stay out of Space and don't mess with nuclear power"
So Hyper Dimnesional Tetrahedron date March 12 is to be considered a key timeframe that could give indications of the significance of the identified underlying themes. The developments and indications that have been monitored so far still seem to indicate a Syria-first scenario on the timecoded patterns, with possible future US-Korea and/or China-Taiwan(US) conflicts closely related to the Hyper Dimensional dates, as mentioned several times before.
The Hariri killing is still the main event that will be identified afterwards as the key event that initially triggered this possible war scenario and all HD dates since the Hariri killing in 2005 indeed showed Hariri/Syria related developments with the above mentioned scenario in mind.
Let's see what happened on HD date March 12 (+/- 1) , 2006:
Milosevic died on March 11 ( hitting the 'balkan karma' and anticipated 'someone will be taken out by Design)
a 9/11 related event: Work to commence on 9/11 memorial
Russia deal 'off Iran's agenda'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4798340.stm
Korea: North Korea says it will delay a scheduled round of high level inter-Korean talks, because of an upcoming joint military exercise between South Korea and the United States.
http://quickstart.clari.net/voa/art/eo/2006-03-11-voa10.html
Iran and nuclear: Israel has a contingency plan for a crushing military strike against Iran's nuclear facilities.
http://quickstart.clari.net/voa/art/et/2006-03-11-voa16.html
another 9/11 related event: US government in crosshairs at September 11 trial (Moussaoui)
China-Taiwan: Taiwanese Protest End of Unification Group
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=727&mforum=hddesign#727
and here it is, the anticipated Hariri news:
Brazil holds 'Hariri-link' woman
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4802496.stm
US urges China to explain military build up
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/060316/1/3zel6.html
If we take a closer look at Hyper dimensional Tetrahedron date March 12, 2007 we see similar themes ( nuclear, Lebanon/Hariri/Syria, 9/11 related event, etc)
March 12, 2007 - Hyper dimensional Tetrahedron
exactly 7 Mercury 'The Messenger' years in Earth days after Deep Impact on Temple I
Towering tribute marks Spain bombs
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/03/11/spain.trial.ap/index.html
Bush urges Iran, Syria to back up words with action on Iraq
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070312/1/477fl.html
Top EU official travels to Beirut ahead of historic Syria visit
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070312/1/477fv.html
ElBaradei arrives in China en route to NKorea
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070312/1/477cw.html
Nuclear chief warns over N Korea
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6440913.stm
Dubai airport shut after accident
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6440747.stm
Minister quits over Trident plans
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6441627.stm
Jet crash boxes fail to yield info
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/03/12/indonesia.plane.reut/index.html
Syria urges broader US dialogue
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6443015.stm
EU optimistic after Lebanon talks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6443527.stm
UN 'progress' over Iran sanctions
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6444409.stm
Pentagon: Key 9/11 suspects face judges at Gitmo
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/03/12/gitmo.hearings/index.html
Japanese passenger jet in dramatic emergency landing
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070313/1/47890.html
Russia warning pressures Iran over nuclear plant
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070312165838.vocezigu&show_article=1&catnum=2
Al Qaeda-Gaza declares war on both Palestinian rivals: Hamas and Fatah
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=3922
Major space missions move ahead
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6442827.stm
Libya 'may sign US nuclear deal'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6444831.stm
Trident sparks second resignation
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6445887.stm
Russia nuclear delay angers Iran
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6446163.stm
Report: ElBaradei unable to meet top N. Korea negotiator
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/03/14/nkorea.nuclear.talks.ap/index.html
Arrests over Lebanon bus bombings
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6448535.stm
What Has Tehran to Gain from Hizballah’s New Face?
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=article&aid=1260
N Korea 'yet to shut' nuclear site
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6448683.stm
So it seems that HD Tetrahedron March 12, 2007 is more intens than March 12, 2006.
The other HD dates are coming up and I expect they will show correlations with the underlying patterns aswell

GodMark2
16th March 2007, 04:32 PM
That's nice Dutch, but have you been able to give any further thought to this question?
How can you tell the difference between important events and unimportant ones?

You give us many more events, which appear to my untrained eye to be the same as events from days that have nothing to do with your "special day identification" method.

Without some way to tell how these events are special, we cannot see if they are associated with any special pattern.

All you have shown so far is: "These days have events", and you would be hard pressed to find any day for which that did not hold true.

To turn that into "These days have special events", you need to show how the events are special.

If you could articulate some way to separate them, we would no longer have to deal with 'everything that happens'. We could then limit the discussion to the events that you claim should be correlated to these 'crossings'.

Alternatatively, what type of events should be predicted by your method? By knowing this, we could begin looking at all events that fit into that category to see if there is a correlation. There is no need to 'put everything that happens into perspective', only the events you claim to be affected.

If there is no way to differientiate between days asociated with a 'crossing' and other days, then of what use and/or meaning are these 'crossings'?

Paulhoff
16th March 2007, 06:43 PM
Can someone please introduce Dutch to Davidjayjordan. We can all sit on the sideline and watch them go at it.

Paul

:) :) :)

trvlr2
16th March 2007, 08:05 PM
The two of them,DJJ & Dutch & others can be found here

www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf

Paul
16th March 2007, 09:32 PM
Can someone please introduce Dutch to Davidjayjordan. Are you sure that's wise, they might reach sociodynamic critical mass and then we'd never stop them.


It's just not worth the risk. :eek:

Paulhoff
17th March 2007, 06:45 AM
Are you sure that's wise, they might reach sociodynamic critical mass and then we'd never stop them.

It's just not worth the risk. :eek:
I could find the word sociodynamic but isodynamic critical mass may be closer to it, all we could hope for is that they are opposite like matter and anti-matter and cancel each other out of our lives.

Paul

:) :) :)

Paul
17th March 2007, 10:09 AM
I could find the word sociodynamic

I'm not claiming it's real, I found it in a sociology stub on wikipedia, but the concept is scary enough in this case:
the existence of sufficient momentum in a social system such that the momentum becomes self-sustaining and fuels further growth..



...shudder...

Paulhoff
17th March 2007, 10:15 AM
I'm not claiming it's real, I found it in a sociology stub on wikipedia, but the concept is scary enough in this case:



...shudder...
Well all words are not word at first, they are all new at one time. I wasn't calling you on it for not being a word, I just wanted to try another one for the F of it. No we don't have to worry about them, there is nothing behind them but wind, very cold wind.

Paul

:) :) :)

Complexity
17th March 2007, 10:44 AM
Welcome aboard, Dutch.

1) What are your credentials? Please provide earned degrees, date of completion, majors and minors, and universities attended. Please do NOT just say "I'm a professional/scientist/professor/whatever" and expect us to fill in the blanks, as this is a Red Flag of Woo.

2) What have you published? Please provide publication names, dates of publication, titles of articles, names of collaborators, and the names of members on your peer-group review boards. Please do NOT just give vague references to classified governmental, military, commercial, or private documents, as this is a Red Flag of Woo.

3) Why are you persuing this line of research? Is it in line with any of your previous research? How do your credentials (see #1) support this line of inquiry? Please do not just say "I am curious," as this is a Red Flag of Woo.

4) How are you persuing this line of inquiry? Please describe the laboratory you are using, and include the types of equipment you use in your research. If your research is currently theoretical only, then please site the reference materials, as well. Please do not merely give a vague and general description, as this is a Red Flag of Woo.

5) Finally, who is financing your research? Please list the names of the financial resource agencies. If your research is out of your own pocket, then please say so and explain why. Please do not just say "Donors who wish to remain anonymous," as this is a Red Flag of Woo.

Raise one or more of the aforementioned "Red Flags" and you may as well admit to being a mere dreamer involved in pseudo-science, rather than a professional involved in real scientific research. Good Luck.

-Fnord of Dyscordia-

Sorry, Fnord, but I can't agree. You assume that only the "professionals" are entitled to pursue knowledge. You prefer the professional to the amateur. You prefer people who play the publish-or-perish game to those who do not. You prefer people who spend other people's money rather than own.

To 1: Are credentials necessary? Does the absence of credentials that you regard as sufficiently worthy imply that research will be fruitless and should not be attempted? Does the achievement of credentials that you regard as sufficiently worthy guarantee anything other than the means and persistence to jump through hoops?

To 2: Why does a publication history matter to you? I used to be an academic - I know how much of publication is a game that must be played to obtain tenure and to advance. What about not publishing until you have something to say? What about publishing outside of the professional journals? Why play the peer-reviewed game if you don't need the notch in the academic bedpost?

To 3: Outrageous. "I am curious" is the very best reason to pursue a line of research. Who says that you should only have one research interest? What in the world do credentials have to do with this?

To 4: Have a problem with theory? How do you think Einstein would have answered this question? His laboratory was in his imagination and didn't cost a thing. I've done most of my best work with a pad of paper and a pencil, usually sitting in a coffee shop. My laboratory is my mind and, when I need it, is on my laptop computer.

To 5: Why should I expect others to pay for my indulging in my enthusiasms? Do you think that an ability to con others out of someone's hard-earned money makes a researcher or his research more impressive? What about the amateur scientist? Do you think that the rise of the professional science establishment was an utterly good thing?

I've got four degrees, the last being a 1990 Ph.D. in Computer Science from Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois, USA.

I was an academic for 5 years after earning my Ph.D. I left academia after several years of disappointment and disgust.

While I am qualified to be a professional scientist, I've chosen to be an amateur scientist. I'm paid to perform various aspects of software engineering, but my real vocation is what I do after hours and at my own expense.

I avoid reading the literature regarding problems that I am wrestling with. I want to think about a problem with as fresh a mind as I can muster and do not want to get stuck in the ruts of the explorations of others.

I've done a great deal of research over the years on several significant problems. I think that I have some noteworthy results and will have more important results over the next year or so. For my own reasons, I have only shared this work with a few friends. I have given myself the gift of conducting my research precisely as I wish.

I have published very little. I currently am writing up the results of 20 years of unfunded research so that everything won't be lost when I die. With one or two possible exceptions (due to competition requirements), I have no interest in publishing anything in a journal - I'll put it up on my website.

I do research because I love it and I am curious. I pursue problems that interest me.

As I said, all I need are time, a pad of paper, a pen, and occasionally a computer to try things out on.

I think that I understand what you were trying to do in your post, and it is not without merit, but your generalizations are grotesque.

The Atheist
17th March 2007, 12:35 PM
Back for another round of silliness.

Dutch. This thread would be much better if your parents had used a Dutch Cap. (http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/encyclopaedia/hutchinson/m0034191.html)

Dutch
18th March 2007, 12:45 AM
just a quick post, it's family time:)

I love it when somebody posts info on the HDDesign forum that says exactly what I'm trying to tell. I have copy and pasted it so you can read it here in full:

SYNCHRONICITY
THE BRIDGE BETWEEN MATTER AND MIND
by F. DAVID PEAT PhD

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/post-3778-hddesign.html#3778 (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/post-3778-hddesign.html#3778)

GodMark2
19th March 2007, 05:00 PM
just a quick post, it's family time:)

I love it when somebody posts info on the HDDesign forum that says exactly what I'm trying to tell. I have copy and pasted it so you can read it here in full:

SYNCHRONICITY
THE BRIDGE BETWEEN MATTER AND MIND
by F. DAVID PEAT PhD

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/post-3778-hddesign.html#3778 (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/post-3778-hddesign.html#3778)

Dutch, do you even bother to read the questions we are raising? You have yet to answer even the simplest.

I will continue to wait patiently for an answer to my prior (unanswered) question, but I will not let you forget that the question needs an answer.

shuyun
20th March 2007, 08:36 PM
excuse me Dutch,

nothing to do with your theory, but..ahhem... your spelling of CalenDAR, is bugging me a bit. I thought at first it was a typo but then as others used it as a sort of private joke of sorts (calenDER) you didn't seem to notice it either.

As to your pinpointing special dates. How is this any different from astrology that relies on the zodiac for determining stuff. Like first and foremost, the constellations aren't actually there.

Even our calenDAR was based arbitrarily on the supposed birthdate of Christ, which was also a miscaculation on Gregory's part? So could your hyper-polyhedron be misoriented by 4 or six years?

Dutch
26th March 2007, 12:56 AM
The killing of Rafik Hariri is still to be considered the initial trigger in an evolving Syria-first war scenario, despite the Iran conditioning. Sure, we are told the navy is out there to change Iran's mind on the nuclear issue, which is indeed the major theme of the Design of our times, but the situation regarding Iran doesn't bare the biggest risk for war, at least that's what the Design seems to imply according to my understanding.
The commission has also widened its inquiry to include attacks on its own team, the murder of Lebanese minister Pierre Gemayel in 2006 and the Ain Alaq bus bombings near Beirut last month.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6477333.stm
The suspects in relation to these bus bombings were arrested during the HD Tetrahedron timeframe around March 12:
Arrests over Lebanon bus bombings
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6448535.stm
They said the four men who were arrested were Syrians.
and in relation to the Hariri killer:
The identity of one of the bombers who was killed in the blast is still unknown, but DNA tests on 33 body parts have suggested that he was not a native of Lebanon.
The team may be able to trace his home country from the high levels of lead he was exposed to as a child.
Geographical samples have been taken from a number of Middle East regions including Syria.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6477333.stm
Ever since Hariri was killed on Cube date february 14, 2005, we have seen developments related to the Hariri/Syria situation on every HD Cube or Tetrahedron date as anticipated and monitored on the HDDesign forum.
I expect further developments related to the Hariri/Syria situation as possible initial trigger in the evolving war scenario during the HD Tetrahedron and Cube dates that are coming up

Paul
26th March 2007, 01:10 AM
at least that's what the Design seems to imply according to my understanding.There's your problem.

Paulhoff
26th March 2007, 06:48 AM
Some people need a world with order and purpose so badly that when they look into a book of random numbers they will see patterns.

Paul

:) :) :)

GodMark2
26th March 2007, 05:32 PM
Dutch, do you even bother to read the questions we are raising? You have yet to answer even the simplest.

I will continue to wait patiently for an answer to my prior (unanswered) question, but I will not let you forget that the question needs an answer.

Dutch, you've officially reached the "Person unwilling to listed to criticism" stage, and are therefore unworthy of a customized response.

I will continue to wait patiently for an answer to my prior (unanswered) question, but I will not let you forget that the question needs an answer.

Dutch
27th March 2007, 12:34 AM
GodMark2,

just walked through the thread quickly, which question do you want further explained?

Dutch
27th March 2007, 02:38 AM
updated : May 2
May 2, 2007 - Golden Mean Phi based 'Srebrenica karma'. Washington.link (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=1296&mforum=hddesign#1296).
3 Mars years in Earth days since 9/11, 3 Mars years in earth days prior to the end of the Mayan Calender
from Goro: Mayan Contact Midpoint, see update below.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali threathened in the US, heavy security/protection needed
Ayaan Hirsi Ali is working for the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research.
http://www.aei.org/
Ayaan has written a book:
Infidel

In her remarkable and unflinchingly honest memoir, Ayaan Hirsi Ali recounts her journey from what she calls "the world of faith to the world of reason."

http://www.aei.org/books/bookID.870/book_detail.asp
Since 3 weeks she's been protected by US security people after she has been threathened. article in Dutch:
Hirsi Ali zwaar bewaakt na concrete bedreiging
http://www.nu.nl/news/1021488/22/Hirsi_Ali_zwaar_bewaakt_na_concrete_bedreiging.htm l
on June 1 last year I wrote:
I expect that the 911 based Phi spiral will continue and will give related events in the future.
Remember that we are also talking about Srebrenica Karma here and that Ayaan has moved to Washington
next date on the spiral:
May 2, 2007 ( 911 days after the murder of Theo van Gogh )
Read the whole thread and keep it in mind for the timeframe around May 2, 2007:
911 based Phi spiral in Dutch society
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about87-hddesign.html

GodMark2
27th March 2007, 05:48 PM
GodMark2,

just walked through the thread quickly, which question do you want further explained?

That's nice Dutch, but have you been able to give any further thought to this question?

How can you tell the difference between important events and unimportant ones?
You give us many more events, which appear to my untrained eye to be the same as events from days that have nothing to do with your "special day identification" method.

Without some way to tell how these events are special, we cannot see if they are associated with any special pattern.

All you have shown so far is: "These days have events", and you would be hard pressed to find any day for which that did not hold true.

To turn that into "These days have special events", you need to show how the events are special.


If you could articulate some way to separate them, we would no longer have to deal with 'everything that happens'. We could then limit the discussion to the events that you claim should be correlated to these 'crossings'.

Alternatatively, what type of events should be predicted by your method? By knowing this, we could begin looking at all events that fit into that category to see if there is a correlation. There is no need to 'put everything that happens into perspective', only the events you claim to be affected.

If there is no way to differientiate between days asociated with a 'crossing' and other days, then of what use and/or meaning are these 'crossings'?

..........

Thomas1016
27th March 2007, 09:41 PM
basicly what he sounds like he is trying to do is put a scientific lable to new age mysticism.

TriangleMan
27th March 2007, 10:00 PM
Dutch has also been keeping some BAUT posters (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=45908&page=37) in his merry-go-round as well, I think the thread there is up to 37 pages.

This quote sums up that BAUT thread nicely:
You know, Dutch, maybe it should tell you something when we can't tell the difference between stuff you just kind of make up and the stuff you claim proves your point.

Nothing more to see here.

Dutch
28th March 2007, 01:56 AM
GodMark2:

How can you tell the difference between important events and unimportant ones?


Events at the macro level orientation of the Platonic Solids seems to be significant, high impact or subtle. 9/11 and the Madrid bombings at the Tetrahedron at macro level orientation, Hariri killed at Cube, etc.

I think every event is important and is somehow part of an underlying timecoded pattern. I have a focus on the macro level, as we are all involved with these somehow

You give us many more events, which appear to my untrained eye to be the same as events from days that have nothing to do with your "special day identification" method.

Without some way to tell how these events are special, we cannot see if they are associated with any special pattern.

All you have shown so far is: "These days have events", and you would be hard pressed to find any day for which that did not hold true.

To turn that into "These days have special events", you need to show how the events are special.

I keep an eye on alot of possibly timecoded patterns and I try to keep track on them in seperated threads. The different patterns are all based on the same principles of Design as described in the material. I started to work with this timeline for future dates in order to organize a bit.
In fact a complete understanding of the Underlying Design should enable us to put everything that happens into perspective but I don't think that's possible for the human mind. The events that show indications of underlying Design at macrolevel are another story: they seem to be giving the opportunity to decode so to speak, like somekind of 'communication', unveiled by the hidden underlying Geometry.

My knowledge of the concepts is very limited but developping. What looks unrelated or coincidental today could very well be understood as related in the future

If you could articulate some way to separate them, we would no longer have to deal with 'everything that happens'. We could then limit the discussion to the events that you claim should be correlated to these 'crossings'.

Alternatatively, what type of events should be predicted by your method? By knowing this, we could begin looking at all events that fit into that category to see if there is a correlation. There is no need to 'put everything that happens into perspective', only the events you claim to be affected.

If there is no way to differientiate between days asociated with a 'crossing' and other days, then of what use and/or meaning are these 'crossings'?


That's why I have started this timeline. The indications of underlying Design are posted realtime in relation to the future dates on the timeline, based on the elements of Design as described. When I notice new indications I add it to the timeline.

Dutch
28th March 2007, 02:00 AM
basicly what he sounds like he is trying to do is put a scientific lable to new age mysticism.

I'm sharing my findings and I expect that everyone could understand the significance eventually if we take the time to see how the anticipations on the timeline will work out. I don't do exact predictions, I'm setting the stage so to speak.

Michael Gray
28th March 2007, 02:59 AM
A very poor attempt at trolling.
I give "her" 1 out of 10.

GodMark2
28th March 2007, 02:45 PM
Events at the macro level orientation of the Platonic Solids seems to be significant, high impact or subtle.

Wow! So, you're saying that events on these days can either be important or unimportant, and then say that that shows that the days are important.

I think every event is important and is somehow part of an underlying timecoded pattern. I have a focus on the macro level, as we are all involved with these somehow

Well, if every event is important, then how does listing events show certain days to be important? Every day would have important events, if all events are important.

I keep an eye on alot of possibly timecoded patterns and I try to keep track on them in seperated threads. The different patterns are all based on the same principles of Design as described in the material. I started to work with this timeline for future dates in order to organize a bit.
In fact a complete understanding of the Underlying Design should enable us to put everything that happens into perspective but I don't think that's possible for the human mind. The events that show indications of underlying Design at macrolevel are another story: they seem to be giving the opportunity to decode so to speak, like somekind of 'communication', unveiled by the hidden underlying Geometry.

My knowledge of the concepts is very limited but developping. What looks unrelated or coincidental today could very well be understood as related in the future

That's why I have started this timeline. The indications of underlying Design are posted realtime in relation to the future dates on the timeline, based on the elements of Design as described. When I notice new indications I add it to the timeline.

So you only look for events on the days you already deem to be important, and Voila! You see important events. What about the days that your method doesn't deem important? Voila! They also have important events.

You need to show that the days not associated with your special method are different from the days addociated with your special method.

You have not yet done this.

GodMark2
28th March 2007, 02:59 PM
Ok, Dutch, let's run a gedankenexperiment. Actually, it’s more of a meta-gedankenexperiment, a thought experiment about running an experiment.

I have a bag of marbles.

I claim to have a foolproof way of pulling only white marbles from the bag, and not black ones.

Count each time you pull a marble, starting at one. Every marble pulled from the bag at a prime count (Not counting 2, because it’s also even, so it’s special. Nor counting one, because it can be argued that it’s not really prime) will be white!

So, you pull marbles, while I watch.

1
2
3 It’s WHITE
4
5 It’s WHITE
6
7 It’s WHITE
8
9
10
11 It’s WHITE

Wow! It looks like I’ve got a perfect method.

Only It’s garbage. See, you need to look at the remaining days.

1 It’s WHITE
2 It’s WHITE
3 It’s WHITE
4 It’s WHITE
5 It’s WHITE
6 It’s WHITE
7 It’s WHITE
8 It’s WHITE
9 It’s WHITE
10 It’s WHITE
11 It’s WHITE

Yeah, every prime pull is white, but that’s pretty meaningless when EVERY pull is white.

Without a DIFFERENCE between the IMPORTANT pulls (in my case, the prime pulls) and the UNIMPORTANT pulls (the non-prime pulls) there isn’t anything worth considering.

So, what is the DIFFERENCE between your IMPORTANT days, and your UNIMPORTANT days?

Dutch
29th March 2007, 02:31 AM
GodMark2
Wow! So, you're saying that events on these days can either be important or unimportant, and then say that that shows that the days are important.
Why should every HD date show planes flying in to towers?

What I call Hyper Dimensional dates are the HD dates at macro level, expressing the major themes. The orientation of the Solids at the highest level.

The system of 911 patterns ( also as used as triggerdates) is in fact creating a HD Tetrahedron for instance, but with a different orientation.
Look at the example I have given about the 911 based Golden mean spiral in Dutch society: Pim Fortuyn was killed on 9/11 and Theo van Gogh on the Madrid bombings. 911+events day is connecting 2 dots of the HD tetrahedron and they can take every 'direction', only the highest top level is expressing at the main Tetrahedron or other solids.

Golden Mean inspiralling gives a Tetrahedron on Venus like Theo van Gogh killed and Ayaan Hirshi Ali exit from Dutch Parliament

If we could freeze a single moment of our reality, then everything could be described by using this Hyper Dimensional Design, if we had a complete understanding of the concepts. That's impossible for the human mind, we can only start to see some correlations that unveil the Design.
That we don't see all correlations doesn't mean they are not there.

Only the themes expressed at top level seem to give opportunity for understanding part of the concepts and maybe that's the purpose of these events in the first place, who knows.

A better understanding of the Geometry will enable us to put more events into perspective

Well, if every event is important, then how does listing events show certain days to be important? Every day would have important events, if all events are important.

indeed, a complete understanding of the concepts should be able to describe the hidden underlying correlations. I have a focus on the main orientation of the solids and all other indications of timecoded patterns are logged realtime on the HDDesign forum ( I use it as a tool )


So you only look for events on the days you already deem to be important, and Voila! You see important events. What about the days that your method doesn't deem important? Voila! They also have important events.

You need to show that the days not associated with your special method are different from the days addociated with your special method.

You have not yet done this.



Yes I have done this in the past. I determined the triggerevents for a randomm future date so I could set the stage for this day with a few key words. This way I mentioned the outbreak of the birdflu for instance, corresponding with the actual first outbreak in China. Back than I did these things for fun but it is a timeconsuming thing to do. The triggerdates have to be set, the events that matter have to be 'filtered' by tuning, the other elements of Design need to be applied and so on. That was a few years ago and the results were all posted on several forums.

Dutch
29th March 2007, 02:36 AM
Godmark2:
So, what is the DIFFERENCE between your IMPORTANT days, and your UNIMPORTANT days?
I consider 9/11 and the Hariri killing similar 'expressions at macro level' that seem to play an important role in the destiny of mankind. 9/11 at the main tetrahedron triggered the war on terror and the Hariri killing at Cube has got equal potential. i have stated repeatedly that the Hariri killing will be considered afterwards to be the initial trigger in an evolving war scenario. That's not the case at the moment. I expect that the Hariri/Syria situation will get momentum again on the main HD dates ( macro level), subtle or high impact and also on moments in time based on the other elements of Design, like ongoing awakening pattern, innerplanet orbits, 911 based Golden Mean Phi etc. ( also in relation to the flight 522 crash ). On all these element I will keep an eye on so I can try to identify which moments will give a probable expression of the underlying themes. Besides the possibility of an emerging
war, there's also a nuclear theme at work. I expect that the Design as described so far will unveil the connection to the Hariri killing, whatever exactly will happen.

Paul
29th March 2007, 03:26 AM
Translation:

Stuff will happen. Narf!

When stuff happens that is important I will say that the convenient shape babble of random date balderdash is linked on the …zort!... buzzword level to things I can shoehorn in with an …ooh, shiny… amoebic knowledge of statistics and …but Zero Mostel times anything will still give you Zero Mostel… no discernible political understanding. Fjord!

Cuddles
29th March 2007, 03:46 AM
Wait, have I missed something here?
May 2, 2007 -
Ayaan Hirsi Ali threathened in the US, heavy security/protection needed

I was under the impression that it's not May yet. Have we gone from randomly posting news reports to predicting the future while I wasn't concentrating?

Dutch
29th March 2007, 04:38 AM
Wait, have I missed something here?


I was under the impression that it's not May yet. Have we gone from randomly posting news reports to predicting the future while I wasn't concentrating?

I stated that I expect the next related event on the 911 based Phi spiral, that initially originated in Dutch society, will probably show a related event in the US/Washington on or around this date. Somehow Ayaan could be involved ( also: 'srebrenica karma')

Paulhoff
29th March 2007, 04:50 AM
It all sound like horoscope BS talk……………………

Paul

:) :) :)

Dutch
29th March 2007, 10:46 AM
astrology is something completely different

Bodhi Dharma Zen
29th March 2007, 11:05 AM
Welcome aboard, Dutch.

1) What are your credentials?
2) What have you published?

3) Why are you persuing this line of research?

4) How are you persuing this line of inquiry?

5) Finally, who is financing your research?

Fnord. I hate to say this, but you are just using "argument from authority" here, specially in your first two points and the fifth. Thats useless. People here needs to present evidence, thats all, you can be a 10 years old boy on highschool or a 70 years woman with no education. Evidence its all that matter.

That said, your 3 and 4 are useful, to a point. Specially 4 which would show the kind of brain we are dealing with.

Paulhoff
29th March 2007, 11:29 AM
astrology is something completely different
No, BS is BS is BS is BS.................

Paul

:) :) :)

Non-truth is non-truth is non-truth .................. no matter how you word it............

Dutch
29th March 2007, 12:21 PM
That said, your 3 and 4 are useful, to a point. Specially 4 which would show the kind of brain we are dealing with.


This needs a serious answer, but I don't have the the time to give it right now ( bed time:) ). I will respond tomorrow though

Paulhoff
29th March 2007, 02:57 PM
This needs a serious answer, but I don't have the the time to give it right now ( bed time:) ). I will respond tomorrow though
Oh gee, we’ll just wait with bated breath……………………………:D

Paul

:) :) :)

GodMark2
29th March 2007, 03:46 PM
I consider 9/11 and the Hariri killing similar 'expressions at macro level' that seem to play an important role in the destiny of mankind.

And I don't.1 That's the problem with imprecise words like "Important".

So, we need some more rigid definition of "important" to apply to events to see if they fit the pattern. "Important" is too fluid in meaning, too impossible to reliably assign to real events. Two different observers could come to two different conclusions of whether or not an event is "important". I listed a number events in a prior post. Many of those could fit the definition of "important" found in the dictionary, depending on the person making the decision.

We need a criteria for "important" that any observer could apply, and come up with the same answer: "Important" or "Not Important".

What criteria are you applying?

--GodMark2

1Specifically, I don't consider 9/11 to be as important as the events leading up to it. That, however, is a topic that would deserve it's own thread.

Dutch
18th April 2007, 02:10 AM
What I call ‘Hyper Dimensional Design’ is the ‘research’ in relation to the identification of possible hidden underlying timecoded patterns just underneath the surface of our familiar 3(or 4) dimensional reality.
These possibly time coded patterns are based on geometry and can only be unveiled indirectly, my monitoring reality and anticipation on future key moments on the timecoded patterns.
My ‘research’ isn’t scientifically based indeed ,but heavily depending on intuitive tuning and synchronicities.
The Design seems to indicate, at least to me, that the Hariri killing at Hyperdimensional Cube date could be considered to be the initial trigger in an evolving war scenario with a possible future US-Korea and/or China-Taiwan (US) conflict, closely related to future Hyperdimensional dates and with a nuclear theme on the background.
I have chosen to start this thread today because the Design seems to indicate that there could be an interesting 30 days period ahead.
First we will have the annually recurring ’13 Satanic holy days’ period, starting on April 19 until May 1.
These 13 days are significant because I think they represent the 13 days deviation between the 8-13 Earth –Venus ratio compared to the actual Golden Mean Phi ratio. An imbalance or disharmony representing the real origin of the ‘unlucky 13’. Also, these 13 days are the difference between the 911 / Tetrahedron based Design and a 15 years period, a base element in relation to the precession calculation.
This 30 days period will also cover 2 Hyperdimensional dates, around Tetrahedron April 21/22 and Cube May 17 ( I expect Hariri/Syria related info on or around both HD dates), the cross quarter day/period Beltane, the 911/Golden Mean Phi based timecoded spiral which originated in The Netherlands but will probably show a related event in the US, an ‘exit of Sun King ‘ key date related to the Anna Nicole marker. I will use the timeline and post anticipations prior to the keydates.
All dates are +/- 1 day. Not only because of the time differences on Earth but also because these dates are in fact related to Geometrically determined specific area's on Earth's orbit around the Sun, corresponding with our system of dates. How large these specific ares are is unknown but I normally use the +/- 1 day correction, although it might be valid to extend the window. Consider the given dates as 'peak' dates, getting momentum towards and lessening in effect afterwards.
April 19 - May 1 annually recurring '13 satanic days' period
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about13-hddesign.html
Grail Resurrection Signals
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/grail-resurrection.htm
April 21/22 , 2007 - Hyper dimensional Tetrahedron, 911.522 after the start of the battle of Marathon ( started on Tetrahedron september 12, 490BC ) breaking the Code (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=3147&mforum=hddesign#3147)
Mercury at same position as during flight 522 crash in Marathon
keydate on the 'exit of sun king' timecoded pattern
Tetrahedron connection 9/11, nuclear theme - Syria. read post here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=3764&mforum=hddesign#3764
Venus related to Nagasaki triggerevent Hariri killing
Mercury in same position as during 555 awakenings endtrigger 9/11
May 2, 2007 - Golden Mean Phi based 'Srebrenica karma'. Washington.link (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=1296&mforum=hddesign#1296).
3 Mars years in Earth days since 9/11, 3 Mars years in earth days prior to the end of the Mayan Calender
from Goro: Mayan Contact Midpoint, see update below.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali threathened in the US, heavy security/protection needed
May 3, 2007 - Sharon
3 Mars years in Earth days since 9/11, 3 Mars years in earth days prior to the end of the Mayan Calender
from Goro: Mayan Contact Midpoint, see update below.
Sharon and Bush are 'playing in the same script', 22 Mercury years since Bush chokes on a pretzel
May 4-10, 2007 - cross quarter day/period Beltane
May 9, 2007 - 3 Venus years in earth days since Deep Impact on temple I
May 17, 2007 - Hyper Dimensional Cube date
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/forum-1-hddesign.html

Hokulele
18th April 2007, 02:26 AM
Did someone drink whiskey before trying to tango to a foxtrot?

Schneibster
18th April 2007, 03:12 AM
Looks like "Project Death Spiral" to me.

fuelair
18th April 2007, 04:04 AM
What I call ‘Hyper Dimensional Design’ is the ‘research’ in relation to the identification of possible hidden underlying timecoded patterns just underneath the surface of our familiar 3(or 4) dimensional reality.
These possibly time coded patterns are based on geometry and can only be unveiled indirectly, my monitoring reality and anticipation on future key moments on the timecoded patterns.
My ‘research’ isn’t scientifically based indeed ,but heavily depending on intuitive tuning and synchronicities.
The Design seems to indicate, at least to me, that the Hariri killing at Hyperdimensional Cube date could be considered to be the initial trigger in an evolving war scenario with a possible future US-Korea and/or China-Taiwan (US) conflict, closely related to future Hyperdimensional dates and with a nuclear theme on the background.
I have chosen to start this thread today because the Design seems to indicate that there could be an interesting 30 days period ahead.
First we will have the annually recurring ’13 Satanic holy days’ period, starting on April 19 until May 1.
These 13 days are significant because I think they represent the 13 days deviation between the 8-13 Earth –Venus ratio compared to the actual Golden Mean Phi ratio. An imbalance or disharmony representing the real origin of the ‘unlucky 13’. Also, these 13 days are the difference between the 911 / Tetrahedron based Design and a 15 years period, a base element in relation to the precession calculation.
This 30 days period will also cover 2 Hyperdimensional dates, around Tetrahedron April 21/22 and Cube May 17 ( I expect Hariri/Syria related info on or around both HD dates), the cross quarter day/period Beltane, the 911/Golden Mean Phi based timecoded spiral which originated in The Netherlands but will probably show a related event in the US, an ‘exit of Sun King ‘ key date related to the Anna Nicole marker. I will use the timeline and post anticipations prior to the keydates.
All dates are +/- 1 day. Not only because of the time differences on Earth but also because these dates are in fact related to Geometrically determined specific area's on Earth's orbit around the Sun, corresponding with our system of dates. How large these specific ares are is unknown but I normally use the +/- 1 day correction, although it might be valid to extend the window. Consider the given dates as 'peak' dates, getting momentum towards and lessening in effect afterwards.
April 19 - May 1 annually recurring '13 satanic days' period
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about13-hddesign.html
Grail Resurrection Signals
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/grail-resurrection.htm
April 21/22 , 2007 - Hyper dimensional Tetrahedron, 911.522 after the start of the battle of Marathon ( started on Tetrahedron september 12, 490BC ) breaking the Code (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=3147&mforum=hddesign#3147)
Mercury at same position as during flight 522 crash in Marathon
keydate on the 'exit of sun king' timecoded pattern
Tetrahedron connection 9/11, nuclear theme - Syria. read post here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=3764&mforum=hddesign#3764
Venus related to Nagasaki triggerevent Hariri killing
Mercury in same position as during 555 awakenings endtrigger 9/11
May 2, 2007 - Golden Mean Phi based 'Srebrenica karma'. Washington.link (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=1296&mforum=hddesign#1296).
3 Mars years in Earth days since 9/11, 3 Mars years in earth days prior to the end of the Mayan Calender
from Goro: Mayan Contact Midpoint, see update below.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali threathened in the US, heavy security/protection needed
May 3, 2007 - Sharon
3 Mars years in Earth days since 9/11, 3 Mars years in earth days prior to the end of the Mayan Calender
from Goro: Mayan Contact Midpoint, see update below.
Sharon and Bush are 'playing in the same script', 22 Mercury years since Bush chokes on a pretzel
May 4-10, 2007 - cross quarter day/period Beltane
May 9, 2007 - 3 Venus years in earth days since Deep Impact on temple I
May 17, 2007 - Hyper Dimensional Cube date
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/forum-1-hddesign.html

Aside from Dutch (and possibly DJ), does anyone mind if I say, as a longtime fan of the inter/multidimensional theories discussions/writings(by people who know the fields (small humor)), that this is a fetid load of decaying fecal matter with a heavy admixture of organic pollutants burning in the flames of high sulphur coal?

SomeGuy
18th April 2007, 04:11 AM
Aside from Dutch (and possibly DJ), does anyone mind if I say, as a longtime fan of the inter/multidimensional theories discussions/writings(by people who know the fields (small humor)), that this is a fetid load of decaying fecal matter with a heavy admixture of organic pollutants burning in the flames of high sulphur coal?

Of Bovine origine?

fuelair
18th April 2007, 05:01 AM
Of Bovine origine?

Any generic rule8 would suffice!!

Paulhoff
18th April 2007, 05:04 AM
What I call ‘Hyper Dimensional Design’ is the ‘research’ in relation to the identification of possible hidden underlying timecoded patterns just underneath the surface of our familiar 3(or 4) dimensional reality.
I thought it was just me that had a problem with this one...........

Paul

:) :) :)

MetalPig
18th April 2007, 06:37 AM
April 19 - May 1 annually recurring '13 satanic days' period
That starts tomorrow. Do you have any specific predictions for this period? How can I tell the difference between these 13 days and the rest of the year?

fuelair
18th April 2007, 03:05 PM
That would be when Satan or one of his minions spews flaming upchuck all over your possession and takes your soul straight to Heck!!

GodMark2
18th April 2007, 03:27 PM
My ‘research’ isn’t scientifically based indeed ,but heavily depending on intuitive tuning and synchronicities.

Then you're in luck! All you have to do is answer my earlier questions, and your research will be scientifically based. Anything real can be analyzed scientifically, so if your effect is real, there's no problem. Of course, if it's just your projection of desires onto a meaningless set of information, then you will never be able to answer any questions.

The Design seems to indicate, at least to me...
These 13 days are significant because I think...


If your effect were real, then the data would indicate the design, and not just to you, but to anyone that looked at it. So far, that appears not to be the case, and you are making no attempt to remedy that problem.

You need to show that important days exist before trying to show why or how they exist. This requires a definition of "Important Days" that is independent of the observer.

What is your definition of "Important Days"?

Dutch
19th April 2007, 12:11 AM
On September 28, 2006 I wrote:
Yes I had already seen it on the triggers for the current timeframe, but didn't post it yet.
March 21, 2005 - In Red Lake, Minnesota, 10 are killed in a school shooting, the worst since the Columbine High School massacre.
+ exactly 555 days, awakenings starttrigger for:
Thursday, 28 September 2006
US school siege ends in bloodshed
A gunman and one of the teenage girls he was holding hostage have died after police stormed a school in the US state of Colorado.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5387062.stm
and a confirmation on the 1666 endtrigger date of the 3333 days 'Ascension' timeframe: April 20
A very strong indication that these triggerdate based alternative calenders ( 555, 1111 , 1666, 3333, 911, 1823 etc) are indeed connected to the monitored events date!!!
April 20, 1999
Columbine High School massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre
March 21 was also the 555 endtrigger date on the 1111 days awakenings timeframe for September 13:
September 13, 2006
At least 12 people injured, six of them critically
Witnesses and Canadian authorities say a gunman in a black trench coat has opened fire at a Montreal college, injuring at least 12 people, six of them critically. Authorities also say they believe the gunman has been killed.
http://quickstart.clari.net/voa/art/ez/2006-09-13-voa58.html
So what we have seen here, is that these 3 schoolshootings are connected when the system of triggerdates is applied.
As someone pointed out to me on another forum, these type of events seem to come in "clumps" and I think that's because it is related to how this trigger system works. Especially the 555 and 911 based triggersystem gives dates close to eachother and even a switch between them, creating the (16 days) 7-4-7 based timeframe as first described prior to the July 7 London Bombings. ( explained in that thread). The start and end triggers based on 911 are forinstance only 3 days apart so anticipated events can get momentum on specific dates during a limited timeframe.
So the schoolshootings in Canada and Colorado both have the same event on the triggers: The Red Lake school shooting, showing a triggerswitch from 'awakenings' endtrigger to starttrigger.
The last one unveils the connction to the Columbine school shooting by applying the 'ascension' triggers.
I had already seen the triggerevent, but it didn't match so far
555 awakenings trigger for today September 29:
March 24, 1998 - Jonesboro massacre: In Jonesboro, Arkansas, two boys (aged 11 and 13 years) fire upon students at Westside Middle School; four students and one teacher are killed and 10 injured.
Principal shot at Wisconsin school; 9th grader in custody
POSTED: 1:27 p.m. EDT, September 29, 2006
CAZENOVIA, Wisconsin (AP) -- A student walked into a rural school with a gun and shot the principal several times Friday morning before he was taken into custody, authorities said. All the children were reported safe.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/29/wisc.shooting.ap/index.html
Columbine happened during the annually recurring '13 satanic days' period from April 19 - May 1. The '13 days' represent the deviation between the Earth - Venus ratio compared to the perfect Golden Mean and is key element in the 911 based Desin as described in the material. These '13 days' stand for our disharmony.
These schoolshootings are a consciousness thing pur sang in the first place and they are starting to unveil the underlying hidden timecoded Design.
They do have a purpose, as everything that happens has a purpose.
I don't think these school shootings are triggerevents, the have their own story to tell
On October 2, 2006 I wrote:
On the Ascension endtrigger for today: April 26
also a day during the '13 days satanic period'.
April 26, 2002 - 19-year-old Robert Steinhäuser shoots and kills 17 people at his school in Erfurt, Germany.
Truck driver kills three girls in Amish school shooting
POSTED: 2:55 p.m. EDT, October 2, 2006
PARADISE, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- A 32-year-old truck driver walked into an Amish schoolhouse Monday, binding and shooting three girls execution-style before killing himself, police said Monday.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/02/amish.shooting/index.html
Killer was 'angry at life, angry at God'
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/10/03/penn.shooter/index.html
Police have preliminary ID of campus gunman
POSTED: 0711 GMT (1511 HKT), April 17, 2007
Story Highlights• NEW: Police have preliminary identification of Virginia Tech gunman
• NEW: At least one professor is among the dead
• University officials say 33 dead, including a gunman
• Attacks mark deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history
BLACKSBURG, Virginia (CNN) -- Police have a preliminary identification of the man who methodically shot and killed at least 30 people on the campus of Virginia Tech, but they are not yet ready to release it.
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/04/17/vtech.shooting/index.html
I had to think of Venus or the Venus number 13
Its Venus AND the number 13
The Earth-Venus ratio is aprox 8/13 with a deviation compared to the perfect Golden Mean Phi ratio of 13 days.
13 times Venus years in Earth days brings Venus in the same position as during Columbine, some 2 days off the exact geometrical spot but ofcourse already heaving its influence or 'refelecting' the Design.
April 20, 1999 - April 16, 2007 = 2.918
13 times 224.68 = 2.920,84
yesterday I wrote:

I just read about the Erfurt massacre and decided to check:
Mercury 'The Messenger' instantly pops up as connected to the 911 based triggerdate related to this school shooting in Germany
The Erfurt massacre was a school shooting that occurred on April 26, 2002 at the Johann Gutenberg Gymnasium in Erfurt, Germany. Sixteen people were killed before the perpetrator committed suicide. The victims comprised 13 school staff, two students and one police officer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erfurt_massacre
Within the annually recurring '13 satanic days period'
911 (Tetrahedron connection) triggerdate related to April 26, 2002:
October 28, 1999
October 28, 1999 - April 16, 2007 = 2727 days or EXACTLY 31 Mercury years in Earth days:
(2727 / 87.969 = 30.9996)
So Mercury is creating a Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron (911 days) with the Erfurt Massacre on October 28, 1999. The EXACT same position Mercury 'The Messenger' is taking during the Virginia Tech massacre, 'hitting' the Tetrahedron again.
as above , so below

Dutch
19th April 2007, 05:45 AM
So Mercury is creating a Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron (911 days) with the Erfurt Massacre on October 28, 1999. The EXACT same position Mercury 'The Messenger' is taking during the Virginia Tech massacre, 'hitting' the Tetrahedron again.
as above , so below
an ongoing 911 based pattern looks like
911 days-events day-911 days-events day-911 days etc.
creating a Tetrahedron and a Tetrahedron and a tetrahedron etc.
like 911 + 1 + 911 + 1 + 911 + 1 + 911 = 3647
3647 days prior to the Erfurt massacre on April 26, 2002 ( within the annually recurring '13 satanic days period' indeed):
May 1, 1992
end date of the '13 satanic days period'
Eric Houston, 20, Olivehurst, Calif., May 1, 1992. Former student was upset over losing a job because he had not graduated. Killed three students and a social studies teacher who had given him a failing grade; injured 13 people. Held students hostage.
http://www.neverhitachild.org/Arkansas/schlviol.html

Paulhoff
19th April 2007, 07:10 AM
Not well at all..................

Paul

:) :) :)

GodMark2
19th April 2007, 03:22 PM
<nothing important>

So it would appear that Dutch has put me on ignore, which is an unfortunately common debate tactic for people who, like him, cannot find any user-independent evidence.

Dutch,

If something is real, you can find user-independent evidence of it.

Therefore:

If you cannot find user-independent evidence of it, it is not real.

At this juncture, you have no evidence, and as such, your idea is worthless.

Dutch
20th April 2007, 12:01 AM
GodMark2, i don't want to ignore you, I'm just focussing on what 's going on at the moment.

If I could provide such evidence than the concept would have been scientifically proven. Thats too much to ask at this stage.

I will ask you to see what these 30 days will bring. i took this 30 days because that's all i get to show the significance of the concept at Baut forum. after this 30 days it will be decided the concept is debunked, no doubt about that. after that I will spend more time here

Paulhoff
20th April 2007, 05:22 AM
Why with these guys is there always a wait............

Paul

:) :) :)

More internet searching?

e-sabbath
20th April 2007, 06:23 AM
Hm. He claimed the 17 and the 19th through May. Completely missed VT entirely. I wonder why. You'd think it'd have shown in his calculations.

Paulhoff
20th April 2007, 09:53 AM
Hm. He claimed the 17 and the 19th through May. Completely missed VT entirely. I wonder why. You'd think it'd have shown in his calculations.
Calculations????? I wouldn't call them that.........

Paul

:) :) :)

A lot of things but not that........

GodMark2
20th April 2007, 02:39 PM
GodMark2, i don't want to ignore you, I'm just focussing on what 's going on at the moment.

Nothing is going on at the moment other than you blethering on about things happening. That things happen isn't in question. That important things happen is.


If I could provide such evidence than the concept would have been scientifically proven. Thats too much to ask at this stage.

I'm not asking it to be proven, I'm asking it to be provable. Without rigid definitions, there will never be a consensus on the validity of the evidence. You provide no definition of "Important", so no evidence can be determined to be "Important" or not.

I will ask you to see what these 30 days will bring. i took this 30 days because that's all i get to show the significance of the concept at Baut forum. after this 30 days it will be decided the concept is debunked, no doubt about that. after that I will spend more time here

The next 30 days will bring events. You will declare the ones on your special days to be "Important" and I will disagree. We will be no closer to debunking (or not) your idea.

Without definitions agreed upon beforehand, there will be no evidence. After 30 days, this idea of yours will still be waiting for evidence, and will neither be shown true of false.

Dutch
23rd April 2007, 11:47 PM
The stage was set prior to the Hyper Dimensional timeframe April 21/22 +/- 1 day:
April 21/22 , 2007 - Hyper dimensional Tetrahedron, 911.522 after the start of the battle of Marathon ( started on Tetrahedron september 12, 490BC ) breaking the Code (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=3147&mforum=hddesign#3147)
Mercury at same position as during flight 522 crash in Marathon
keydate on the 'exit of sun king' timecoded pattern
Tetrahedron connection 9/11, nuclear theme - Syria. read post here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=3764&mforum=hddesign#3764
Venus related to Nagasaki triggerevent Hariri killing
Mercury in same position as during 555 awakenings endtrigger 9/11
The HD Tetrahedron timeframe indeed showed related events with the exit of 'Sun King' Jeltsin, the fake elections in Syria to consolidate Assad's power, another crash and a Greece 737 emergency landing ( flight 522 crashed in Marathon, Greece ), the death of a runner during the London Marathon, the nuclear sanctions for Iran and these Syrian top army generals visiting Iran during this timeframe. (The battle of Marathon was against what is currently Iran)
The US president's men in dire straits
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070423/1/48006.html
Voting begins slowly for Syria's new parliament
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070422/1/47zr0.html
Hamas urges attacks on Israel
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/22/israel.palestinians.ap/index.html
Syria Goes To Polls; Opposition Calls It Farce
Syria is facing international isolation and the government is under pressure to set up an international tribunal to try the killers of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. Also, a U.N. investigation had implicated Syrian officials.
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7007119352
A large, high-ranking Syrian delegation of 40 generals on secret mission to Tehran
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4105
Greek jet makes emergency landing
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6583117.stm
nuclear theme
Gates meets Putin on missile sites
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/23/gates.russia.reut/index.html
Runner dies after London Marathon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6583677.stm
EU agrees Iran nuclear sanctions
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6582239.stm
Goro: And finally... [a 'Kamikaze' event]
4/21: Blue Angels jet crashes during air show
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/04/21/blueangels.crash/index.html
exit of 'Sun King':
Former Russian leader Yeltsin dead
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/04/23/russia.yeltsin.ap/index.html
Syria's Assad seeks to consolidate power
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=71336

SezMe
24th April 2007, 12:50 AM
Does JREF have a rubber room?

Orphia Nay
24th April 2007, 12:59 AM
How many times have you been told that news happens in Syria on a daily basis?

You list events for April 21/22. So is that also +/- one day (per day)?

Years ago when you started doing this, you anticipated likely events for one day.

Then it was one day +/- 1 day.

Now you've got a gun that can shoot 4 fish (days) in the barrell of daily news in Syria, for example.

How long before something is predicted for all types of events, on every day?

S:)t happens. That is your theory, Dutch. Be happy with that.

Schneibster
24th April 2007, 01:18 AM
I vote we combine this thread with the Origin of Gravity thread and see if they cancel each other out.

Sorry for suggesting another event-horizon creating scenario in the forum.

GodMark2
24th April 2007, 04:21 PM
<more completely wasted bandwith>

Nothing is going on at the moment other than you blethering on about things happening. That things happen isn't in question. That important things happen is.

I'm not asking it to be proven, I'm asking it to be provable. Without rigid definitions, there will never be a consensus on the validity of the evidence. You provide no definition of "Important", so no evidence can be determined to be "Important" or not.

The next 30 days will bring events. You will declare the ones on your special days to be "Important" and I will disagree. We will be no closer to debunking (or not) your idea.

Without definitions agreed upon beforehand, there will be no evidence. After 30 days, this idea of yours will still be waiting for evidence, and will neither be shown true of false.

Gravy
25th April 2007, 12:37 AM
What I do has nothing to do with scientific research, when I call it "researc" it's always between ""Between barking and barmy?

I know I can expect the tomatos, I'm used to that...initiallyDo you mean people sometimes...come around? Be honest: life is like this, isn't it?
http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/8790462f00d24c4ce.jpg
When we talk about our perception of time and Hyper Dimensional Design we are not looking at a 3D closed sphere (such as a planet ). Earth travels through a point in (Hyper)space and the Tetrahedron or Cube etc reveils it's existence by Geometry.


http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/8790462efe778f861.jpg

Dutch
4th May 2007, 06:31 AM
In relation to the anticipated timeframe around May 2 (+/- 1 day) I suggest this thread should be read firstt, in which the names of the peoples involved are explained. It also explains how the May 2, 2007 date (+/- 1 day) is related to this 911 based Phi spiral in the Dutch society, the link to Washington ( Obama has been mentioned by name) and the related 'Srebrenica karma'. I have to explain in more detail what my thoughts are about these issues but I do consider the developments on May 1-2-3 that are mentioned in the thread to be 'hits' on the keydate as described by the 911 based Phi spiral. The thread:
911 based Phi spiral in Dutch society
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about87-hddesign.html

GodMark2
4th May 2007, 04:08 PM
I have to explain in more detail what my thoughts are about these issues

That's exctly what I've been asking you to do. Please explain by what means we can evaluate whether or not any of this information you've presented us with is evidence for your hypothesis.

Molinaro
4th May 2007, 04:21 PM
May 2nd was my mom's birthday and I forgot to call her. So I'll give him a point for his prediction of that date being important.

Dutch
8th May 2007, 03:57 AM
I have been busy the last few days with other things but I will write more about related issues later.
What we have seen here is a 911 / Tetrahedron based Golden Mean Phi spiral, firmly marked by the assassinations of Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh in The Netherlands. As indicated before there seems to be Srebrenica karma involved and more in general : "racially motivated" . The exit of Hirshi Ali was hitting the pattern. These three individuals were very much involved with "racially / religious motivated" issues.
Melkert, Wolfowitz ( I will explain in more detail later) , Volkert ( killer of Fortuyn) were all 'calling in' on the next key date of the spiral ( inwards ), with a security issue for Obama, as anticipated.
But what about outspiralling? The link to US and the karmic themes are giving a very strong confirmation of the validity of the 911 based Golden Mean spiral:
911 days times 1.61803399 = 1.474 days
1.474 days prior to the killing of Pim Fortuyn on May 6, 2002:
April 23, 1998
James Earl Ray (March 10, 1928 – April 23, 1998) was convicted of the assassination of civil rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., which occurred on April 4, 1968 in Memphis, Tennessee. Ray also has the distinction of having been twice placed on the FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Ray

GodMark2
8th May 2007, 03:45 PM
And now for the daily news with Dutch:

I have been busy the last few days with other things but I will write more about related issues later.
What we have seen here is a 911 / Tetrahedron based Golden Mean Phi spiral, firmly marked by the assassinations of Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh in The Netherlands. As indicated before there seems to be Srebrenica karma involved and more in general : "racially motivated" . The exit of Hirshi Ali was hitting the pattern. These three individuals were very much involved with "racially / religious motivated" issues.
Melkert, Wolfowitz ( I will explain in more detail later) , Volkert ( killer of Fortuyn) were all 'calling in' on the next key date of the spiral ( inwards ), with a security issue for Obama, as anticipated.
But what about outspiralling? The link to US and the karmic themes are giving a very strong confirmation of the validity of the 911 based Golden Mean spiral:
911 days times 1.61803399 = 1.474 days
1.474 days prior to the killing of Pim Fortuyn on May 6, 2002:
April 23, 1998
James Earl Ray (March 10, 1928 – April 23, 1998) was convicted of the assassination of civil rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., which occurred on April 4, 1968 in Memphis, Tennessee. Ray also has the distinction of having been twice placed on the FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Ray

I must applaud your eforts to master the finding of irrelevant information. You are truly a master at sorting through the morass of daily events to find the few that look the most like pictures of Jesus... er, I mean like they could possibly have something to do with your pet delusion.

You see, it's really the same effect happening as when people 'see' pictures of their favorite person (whether it be Jesus, Elvis, or Randi). We see millions, if not billions of things every day. Some look like Randi, and some don't. We only notice the ones that sort of do. And, as human beings, we're really good at stretching out that "sort of" as far as we can.

In order to determine if that image of Elvis (or 'security issue for Obama') is relevant, we have to do these things (in order)

1) Determine what 'look like Elvis' means.

2) Determine how often we would expect to see something like that if life were random.

3) Look at ALL the things we see to see if they 'look like Elvis'.

4) Compare the portion of things that 'look like Elvis' to the portion of things expected to 'look like Elvis'.

You're trying to jump to item three before even trying to pass items one and two, and you're doing a poor job at number three as it is.

Dutch
16th May 2007, 02:38 AM
I wrote:
It doesn't happen every day that trains explode or planes fly into offices.
The patterns are leading and put a subtle development into perspective. I agree that it will only make sense if at least an indication has been given prior to the fact, otherwise everything will be dismissed as coincidental.
Next significant date is the HD Cube date around May 17
I expect a development related to the Hariri killing/ Syria-first scenario again, could be high impact but most probably subtle
updated: hyper Dimensional Cube date May 17 ( +/- 1 day)
Wednesday May 16, 2:17 AM
UN to mull move this week to create court to try Hariri murder
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070515/1/48klw.html
Wednesday May 16, 4:27 AM
UN to consider creating Hariri murder court

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070515/1/48knz.html

Dutch
16th May 2007, 03:54 AM
I love synchronicities

just came to my attention today

I gave it as an example of one of my anticipations that didn't came through, at least not as far as i knew

I stated that September 8, 2006 would be related to the exit of the Assad clan in Syria.

Now somebody came up with this article in an effort to debunk me.
The poster was unaware of this September 8 , 2006 anticipation.

I almost fell out of my chair when I saw that he tried to debunk me with this article he gave as an example:

Officials silent on details of UN draft for Hariri tribunal
By Leila Hatoum
Daily Star staff
Friday, September 08, 2006

Officials remained tight-lipped Thursday about the details of the United Nation's final draft for the international tribunal to try former Premier Rafik Hariri's assassins. Justice Minister Charles Rizk said the draft would not be made public until the Cabinet had discussed it.

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=2&article_id=75329 (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=2&article_id=75329)

realpaladin
16th May 2007, 04:09 AM
Dutch, as a fellow countryman I say: "Blijf uit de koffieshops!"

And as for dates having *any* meaning...

Remember that the designation of the years is because Dionysius Exiguus (in English known as Denis the Little) chose them to be that way. He more or less guestimated when the year 0 should be.

And there is a lot of other nonsense going on with how our dates are constructed, so, leave it already.

GodMark2
16th May 2007, 02:56 PM
I wrote:
It doesn't happen every day that trains explode or planes fly into offices.
The patterns are leading and put a subtle development into perspective. I agree that it will only make sense if at least an indication has been given prior to the fact, otherwise everything will be dismissed as coincidental.

I'm sorry, Dutch, but you're simply wrong. Every day a plane flies into an office, or a train explodes, or the UN has a meeting, or a terrorist is captured, or a terrorist isn't captured and blows something up, or I miss my bus, or ...

With so many possible 'events' every day has them.

You can't just look at the days on your special list and see that they have events, you have to also show that the days NOT on your special list and show that those days DON'T.

So we need a way to se what events can be counted, and which events can't be counted. You have yet to provide such a method, therefore I submit that you have shown zero events worthy of being counted.

You have a grand total score of zero. Is that lack of score enough for you to give up this fruitless endeavor?
I predict that Dutch will (as before) simply ignore me and pretend that you have something worth listening to. is that prediction worth $1M ;)

Orphia Nay
17th May 2007, 01:30 AM
You're using psychology, not parapsychology, I'm afraid.

Dutch! The Hariri killing was the most dramatic event in Syria's recent history! Of course there are news reports on it every day!!!

Is the month up yet? What will convince you that HDD is just wishful thinking (for some sort of order in life's chaos) on your behalf?

Dutch
19th May 2007, 02:17 PM
You're using psychology, not parapsychology, I'm afraid.

Dutch! The Hariri killing was the most dramatic event in Syria's recent history! Of course there are news reports on it every day!!!

Is the month up yet? What will convince you that HDD is just wishful thinking (for some sort of order in life's chaos) on your behalf?

I think you mean Lebanon or are you implying Assad is responsible?

Dutch
19th May 2007, 02:42 PM
GodMark2,

I have to apologize for not giving an appropriate response to your valid requests for additional explanations, I'll come back to you during next week

have a nice weekend,

Dutch

cloudshipsrule
19th May 2007, 03:08 PM
This thread is almost as gay as... http://www.timecube.com/

Dutch
22nd May 2007, 03:11 AM
I expected Hariri/Syria related events around HD Cube date May 17, which indeed materialized with developments related to the Hariri Tribunal as already posted. This same issue is probably the cause of the current problems in Lebanon, which are escalating.
Bush denies the connection to the Hariri Tribunal, but that's just because the Hariri killing should be a joker to the bush Administration and now Assad is using it to stirr it up.
coming to the surface, CNN as the major news source at macrolevel is mentioning it:
Assassination tribunal
The U.N. Security Council is considering passing a resolution that would enforce the establishment of an international tribunal to try suspects for the 2005 assassination of former Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri.
That is an idea unpopular with the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, which has links to Syria. Many people believe Syria was behind the killing.
Conflicts in south Lebanon between Siniora's government and Hezbollah have prevented the creation of a tribunal. Siniora last week reiterated his call for the United Nations to create the international tribunal.
Political sources said the Beirut explosion was an attempt by Syria to sow seeds of instability ahead of Security Council deliberations about the tribunal.
The U.S. State Department dismissed any links between this week's violence and efforts to establish the tribunal. A senior State Department official, however, said that Fatah al-Islam may be trying to take advantage of the already-fragile political situation in Lebanon.
Lebanon, militants battle for a 3rd day
POSTED: 4:37 a.m. EDT, May 22, 2007
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/22/lebanon.violence/index.html
The situation is monitored/explained here:
The Hariri Killing, Casus Belli WWIII ?
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about3-hddesign.html
I'm currently setting up a timeline for the second half of 2007 that will be posted in the main forum here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/forum-1-hddesign.html

Dutch
24th May 2007, 01:40 AM
I have written a little summary about the Hariri killing and the important developments that have happened so far on the determined Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron and Cube dates at macro level as described in the HDDesign material.
I expected Hariri/Syria related info every time and I have posted that prior to the anticipated HD dates
Hyper Dimensional Cube Feb 14, 2005 Hariri killed
HD Cube May 17, 2005:
US General: Syria Should Do More to Prevent Iraq Terrorism
Hyper DimensionalTetrahedron September 11, 2005: the Hariri death probe moves to Syria
HD Tetrahedron Friday, 21 October 2005, 05:55 GMT
Syria 'involved' in Hariri death
A UN inquiry into the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri says many leads point to the direct involvement of Syrian officials.
UN investigators said they had also found evidence of Lebanese collusion in Mr Hariri's death last February.
HD Cube February 14 2006
Syria switches to euro amid confrontation with US
Lebanon marks Hariri anniversary with a huge rally in Beirut
HD Tetrahedron Monday, 13 March 2006
Brazil holds 'Hariri-link' woman
Brazilian police say they have arrested a Lebanese woman wanted for questioning over the death of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4802496.stm
HD Tetrahedron Friday, 21 April 2006
Lebanon's groundbreaking tribunal
By Kim Ghattas
BBC, in Beirut
After more than 30 years of political assassinations going unpunished, Lebanon finally seems to be embarking on a new era of accountability.
In recent weeks, the UN Security Council has decided to set up a special tribunal on the murder of former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.
The decision makes it clear not only that the time for impunity is over, but more importantly that chief UN investigator Serge Brammertz believes he has enough evidence to put someone on trial.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4926536.stm
Bush again, during the ´annually recurring 13 days satanic period`
Wednesday, 26 April 2006
US blocks Hariri suspects' assets
US President George W Bush has ordered a freeze on the assets of anyone linked to the assassination of Lebanon's former Prime Minister, Rafik Hariri.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4948598.stm
HD Cube Tuesday, 16 May 2006
Syrian border barriers demolished
Syrian and Lebanese demolition teams have started removing large sand barriers built by the Syrian army in the east of Lebanon.
The Lebanese news agency said the work started on Monday following a recent agreement between officials.
full article
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4772929.stm
and again UN pressure on a HD date!
HD Cube Wednesday, 17 May 2006
UN presses for Syria-Lebanon ties
The UN Security Council has adopted a resolution calling on Syria to forge formal ties with Lebanon and demarcate the border between the two countries.
full article
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4990988.stm
this is important because this Kilo guy will be released on a following HD date
Quote:
Mr Bunni's arrest follows the detention of prominent writer and activist Michel Kilo on Sunday.
HD Cube Thursday, 18 May 2006
Syrian human rights lawyer 'held'
Syrian police have arrested the country's most prominent human rights lawyer Anwar al-Bunni, his family said.
A number of other people have been detained, in what rights groups are describing as the biggest crackdown for several years.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4992194.stm

On HD Cube August 17, 2006 I wrote:
Quote:
I consider this to be a very, very strong confirmation of the desccribed design. The Hariri murder has been the trigger from the beginning
On hyper dimensional Cube date August 16 again Hariri/Syria related information!
as anticipated!!!!!!!!
This really gave me the chills, it's Hariri's son Saad himself!!
So on every Hyper Dimensional date I have anticipated on, I expected Hariri/Syria related info.
AND IT HAPPENED EVERY TIME
Thursday, 17 August 2006, 15:47 GMT 16:47 UK
Hariri in bitter attack on Syria
The leader of the parliamentary majority in Lebanon, Saad Hariri, has strongly criticised the president of neighbouring Syria, Bashar al-Assad.

full article
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5259842.stm

HD Tetrahedron September 12, 2006: attack on US ambassy in Damascus
HD Tetrahedron Thursday, 19 October 2006
Syria 'to release' dissident Kilo
And
HD October 21, 2006, 8:12 PM (GMT+02:00)
Quote:
Halutz also warned Israel to prepare for possible war with Syria, whose missile threat to Israel's population is similar to that of Hizballah.
http://www.debka.com/send_headline.php?hid=3400
HD Cube Tuesday, 14 November 2006
Lebanese leader rejects UN court
Lebanon's President Emile Lahoud says he opposes his government's approval of UN plans to try suspects in the killing of former PM Rafik Hariri.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6149056.stm
HD Cube Feb 14, 2007 again huge rally in Beirut, despite the bus bombings just prior to the Cube date. Syrians were arrested on a following HD date
HD Tetrahedron March 12, 2007
Bush urges Iran, Syria to back up words with action on Iraq
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070312/1/477fl.html
Top EU official travels to Beirut ahead of historic Syria visit
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070312/1/477fv.html
Syria urges broader US dialogue
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6443015.stm
Arrests over Lebanon bus bombings
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6448535.stm

Hyper dimensional Tetrahedron April 22, 2007
Voting begins slowly for Syria's new parliament
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070422/1/47zr0.html
Syria Goes To Polls; Opposition Calls It Farce
Quote:
Syria is facing international isolation and the government is under pressure to set up an international tribunal to try the killers of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. Also, a U.N. investigation had implicated Syrian officials
.
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7007119352
A large, high-ranking Syrian delegation of 40 generals on secret mission to Tehran
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4105

Next significant date is the HD Cube date around May 17
I expect a development related to the Hariri killing/ Syria-first scenario again, could be high impact but most probably subtle
So here it is already, David Welch is due in Beirut for a surprise visit to underline American backing for Siniora's goverment, who takes fateful step of okaying international tribune to try suspects of Hariri assassination
in the face I would say
Lebanese PM Siniora takes fateful step of okaying international tribune to try suspects of Rafiq Hariri assassination
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4199
So here it is, on HD Cube, as anticipated:
Wednesday May 16, 4:27 AM
UN to consider creating Hariri murder court
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070515/1/48knz.html
Wednesday May 16, 2:17 AM
UN to mull move this week to create court to try Hariri murder
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070515/1/48klw.html

And finally a nice synchronicity:
The HDDesign material has been ‘tested’ at the ATM section of the Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum .
Unfortunately they have just changed the forum rules, so you only get 30 days to prove your theory. That is ofcourse impossible. I wrote:
I have done an anticipation prior to September 8, 2006, in which I also expected a Hariri/Syria related event on September 8,2006. I specifically mentioned that it had to do with the exit of the Assad clan in Syria. When I monitored that day in 2006 I couldn't find something interesting, as I'm focussing on CNN and BBC as mainstream news providers at macrolevel.
I have given this anticipation as an example of one that didn't came through, at least not to my knowledge. Than 'Tog' uses this September 8 issue as an example of how 'I'm always right'.
Than 'Van Rijn' comes along in an effort to debunk the material and he picks out of thousands of google hits exactly an article about the Hariri killing that was published on September 8, 2006, talking about the hidden content of the final UN report regarding the Hariri killing, which will ultimately lead to the exit of the Assad clan, at least that's what I expect.
Its not just me, people who are dealing with this concept contribute aswell, although they are probably not consciously aware of it or even dismiss it.
I have given you the opportunity to get used to this HDDesign theory. It has never been my objective to prove it because I can´t. Science isn´t able to describe our reality but yet we know it exists because we are aware it is real.
I will focus on the research again because I know that this theory will only get better and will show more profound meaning. Its a choice we make, I am not going to wait until it is possible to prove it scientifically, the ´coincidences´ already proved it to me. We are living in interesting times, don´t waste your time and potential.
I have chosen the 30 days ATM period to cover some interesting dates with anticipations on Hariri/Syria related events at the end around HD Cube date May 17, which indeed materialized with development related to the Hariri Tribunal. This same issue is probably the cause of the current problems in Lebanon, which are escalating.
Bush denies the connection to the Hariri Tribunal, but that's just because the Hariri killing should be a joker to the bush Administration and now Assad is using it to stirr it up.
This thread was about the Anna Nicole marker event. The trigger dates are set for next August with a focus on August 3. Bush' Presidency hits a 911 based Golden Mean Phi timecoded spiral, similar to such a spiral that made me anticipate on a security issue related to Obama for HD Tetrahedron date April 22 (+/- 1 day) , which indeed materialized with Obama placed on an early protection by the secret services on April 23
I promissed that odd coincidences would pop up related to the HDDesign material. Read the thread again in ATM section and see how other people than me bring in the significanty info subconsciously. Instead of calling me delusional in pm, these people shouldn't ignore these 'in the face' coincidences and get rid of their rigid mindset.
BTW the prediction that would have bitten the dust according to this thread, was materialized with Jeltsin's exit on the anticipated date.
None of the peoples responding to the HDDesign material has been able to debunk it and yet it comes to an end here. how sad.

Cuddles
24th May 2007, 03:38 AM
:bunpan

Paulhoff
24th May 2007, 06:45 AM
Tell me what will happen to the letter in six months from this date, 05/25/2007.

Paul

:) :) :)

GodMark2
24th May 2007, 03:38 PM
I assume this is the 'explaination' you promissed, because nothing else comes close. Unfortunately, I didn't ask for an explaination, I asked for a definition of an 'important' event.

And finally a nice synchronicity:
The HDDesign material has been ‘tested’ at the ATM section of the Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum .
Unfortunately they have just changed the forum rules, so you only get 30 days to prove your theory. That is ofcourse impossible. I wrote:
I have done an anticipation prior to September 8, 2006, in which I also expected a Hariri/Syria related event on September 8,2006. I specifically mentioned that it had to do with the exit of the Assad clan in Syria. When I monitored that day in 2006 I couldn't find something interesting, as I'm focussing on CNN and BBC as mainstream news providers at macrolevel.
I have given this anticipation as an example of one that didn't came through, at least not to my knowledge. Than 'Tog' uses this September 8 issue as an example of how 'I'm always right'.

I suspect that you are mis interpreting Tog's issue. You currently have a setup where NO POSIBLE EVIDENCE can ever show you to be wrong. Not that the evidence we have shows you are right, but that there is no concievable evidence, no imaginable scrap, not even a possible lack of correlation, that could disprove your delusion. If something cannot concieve of being disproven, then it is not reality, it is sophistry.

Than 'Van Rijn' comes along in an effort to debunk the material and he picks out of thousands of google hits exactly an article about the Hariri killing that was published on September 8, 2006, talking about the hidden content of the final UN report regarding the Hariri killing, which will ultimately lead to the exit of the Assad clan, at least that's what I expect.
Its not just me, people who are dealing with this concept contribute aswell, although they are probably not consciously aware of it or even dismiss it.
I have given you the opportunity to get used to this HDDesign theory. It has never been my objective to prove it because I can´t. Science isn´t able to describe our reality but yet we know it exists because we are aware it is real.

Science is the only proces that allows us to separate reality from fantasy. If you are not using science, your are living in fantasy.

I will focus on the research again because I know that this theory will only get better and will show more profound meaning. Its a choice we make, I am not going to wait until it is possible to prove it scientifically, the ´coincidences´ already proved it to me. We are living in interesting times, don´t waste your time and potential.

We are living in times, you have not yet shown how to determine that they are interesting or not. By the only available definition, either no times are interesting, or ALL times are interesting, either way makes no times special.


I have chosen the 30 days ATM period to cover some interesting dates with anticipations on Hariri/Syria related events at the end around HD Cube date May 17, which indeed materialized with development related to the Hariri Tribunal. This same issue is probably the cause of the current problems in Lebanon, which are escalating.
Bush denies the connection to the Hariri Tribunal, but that's just because the Hariri killing should be a joker to the bush Administration and now Assad is using it to stirr it up.
This thread was about the Anna Nicole marker event. The trigger dates are set for next August with a focus on August 3. Bush' Presidency hits a 911 based Golden Mean Phi timecoded spiral, similar to such a spiral that made me anticipate on a security issue related to Obama for HD Tetrahedron date April 22 (+/- 1 day) , which indeed materialized with Obama placed on an early protection by the secret services on April 23
I promissed that odd coincidences would pop up related to the HDDesign material. Read the thread again in ATM section and see how other people than me bring in the significanty info subconsciously. Instead of calling me delusional in pm, these people shouldn't ignore these 'in the face' coincidences and get rid of their rigid mindset.
BTW the prediction that would have bitten the dust according to this thread, was materialized with Jeltsin's exit on the anticipated date.
None of the peoples responding to the HDDesign material has been able to debunk it and yet it comes to an end here. how sad.

You have shown no more odd coincidences that would be predicted by chance alone. Therefore, your theory that chance alone is not able to account for these incidences has been falsified. Chance alone accounts for all information you have presented.

Dutch
25th May 2007, 12:22 AM
GodMark2, I'm still monitoring the current timeframe first.



Gunfire renewed at embattled north Lebanese Palestinian camp Friday.
May 25, 2007, 9:35 AM (GMT+02:00)
Lebanese PM vowed Thursday to eradicate terrorists in the northern Palestinian camp of Nahr al Barad. Speaking over national TV Thursday, Fouad Siniora he pledged not to attack civilians, “our Palestinian brothers.”
Earlier, the Lebanese army sank two small boats in which the Islamists were escaping the besieged camp. The new French foreign minister Bernard Kouchner was due in Beirut Thursday. Wednesday, Lebanese defense minister Elias Murr warned Fatah al-Islam radicals fighting the army in Tripoli and the Nahr al-Bared refugee camp since Sunday they must surrender or face more military action. Their reply was that they would abide by a ceasefire but not surrender and would fight if attacked. About 75 people have been killed in the battles and half of the camp’s 40,000 residents have fled.
Palestinian groups backed by Tehran and Damascus are aiding the Islamists. Among them are gunmen of Ahmed Jibril’s radical Poplar Front for the Liberation of Palestinian-General Command and Abu Mussa’s breakaway Fatah. Both maintain headquarters in Damascus. Jibril is known to draw funds from Tehran. Their armed men could not have crossed from Syria without Damascus’ approval, thus belying Syria’s denial of direct interference in the violence which is posing an acute challenge to the Lebanese army.
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4230
Lebanon to receive weapons shipment from U.S.
POSTED: 11:30 p.m. EDT, May 24, 2007
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/24/lebanon.violence/index.html

cloudshipsrule
25th May 2007, 01:40 AM
Dutch,

Will I marry someone attractive and end up in a rewarding job one day?

Cuddles
25th May 2007, 04:20 AM
Dutch,

Will I marry someone attractive and end up in a rewarding job one day?

No.

Now can someone please explain why I can't get a job as a fortune teller?

Paulhoff
25th May 2007, 09:07 AM
GodMark2, I'm still monitoring the current timeframe first.
What is your wildest dreams makes you think that we don't have TVs and radios. You have not made anything known that isn't known already.

Paul

:) :) :)

GodMark2
25th May 2007, 02:27 PM
GodMark2, I'm still monitoring the current timeframe first.

In other words, you're gathering data before you determine what data you should gather. This is like asking someone to walk down the street and point out every Bedlington Terrier, without giving them a description of what a Bedlington Terrier is. Then you're presenting the things that guy pointed out to a bunch of people that also don't know what a Bedlington Terrier is, and claiming that it's somehow significant, because he always pointed out dogs being walked by women.

I'm asking what a Bedlington Terrier is, and you're refusing to answer, which leads only to the conclusion that you don't know, either, and you're just pointing out all the dogs that you see. If we don't know what a Bedlington Terrier is, we can't look for the ones being walked by men (which would disprove your hairbrained idea), nor can we verify that, indeed, all the items provided as proof are, indeed, Bedlington Terriers (which would throw out much of your data).

so: What is a "Bedlington Terrier"... I mean: What is a "Significant World Event"?

DuckTapeFileMan
26th May 2007, 04:17 AM
definition of a "significant world event", from wiki.

a breed of dog. It is one of many breeds of terrier and is named after the mining town of Bedlington, Northumberland in North East England

Dutch
30th May 2007, 11:44 PM
Mixed reaction to Security Council backing U.N. tribunal in Hariri killing
UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- Reaction was mixed to the divided Security Council vote Wednesday to create an international tribunal to prosecute suspects in the 2005 killing of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.

Syria's U.N. ambassador, Bashar Jaafari, said the resolution violates the U.N. charter and noted that three of the five council members that abstained represented Arab, Muslim and non-aligned countries. "The weight of these five countries bypasses by far the number of these countries," he said.

But the slain leader's son, Saad Hariri, hailed the vote as "a new chance for Lebanese unity." Speaking in a televised address, he said, "The Hariri tribunal is not a victory of one side over another in Lebanon. On the contrary, it is for all of Lebanon."

"Those who killed Rafik Hariri and so many others will be brought to justice and be held responsible for their crimes," U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad said. "The tribunal will also serve to deter future political assassinations. Those who might be tempted to commit similar crimes will know there will be consequences for perpetuating political violence and intimidation in Lebanon." (Posted 4:33 p.m.)

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/05/30/wednesday/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/05/30/wednesday/index.html)

Dutch
31st May 2007, 05:52 AM
as explained in the 'Hariri' thread, the Hariri killing is connected by a Golden Mean Phi based timecoded spiral with the next Venus Passage on June 6, 2012 and ultimately with the end of the Mayan Calender on December 21, 2012.
The Hariri Tribunal court will come into force on 10 June, 2007.
On June 10, 2007 it will be exactly 2 Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedrons prior to the Venus Passage:
2 times 911 = 1822 days
june 10, 2007 + 1822 days gives June 5, 2012 the start of the Venus Transit.
Connecting the Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedrons or a in other words:
an ongoing 911 based timecoded pattern

AND
On June 10, 2007 it is exactly 9 Venus Years in Eart days to the end of the Mayan calender on December 21, 2012
And
On June 10, 2007 It will take 23 Mercury Years in earth days untill the end of the Mayan Calender.
So Mercury 'The Messenger' and Venus will take the same position on their orbits on June 10, 2007 as they will take at the end of the Mayan Calender .
The Hariri Killing, Casus Belli WWIII ?:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=4157&mforum=hddesign#4157

GodMark2
31st May 2007, 01:48 PM
Dutch with more pictures of women walking dogs, and still claiming that this is proof that all Beldington Terriers are walked by women. Now, to my eye, at least some of these dogs look like Border Collies. And I have a bunch of pictures of men walking dogs that look eerily similar to the ones walked by women.

So, Dutch, how do I know that the events you're posting are important?

Mixed reaction to Security Council backing U.N. tribunal in Hariri killing
UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- Reaction was mixed to the divided Security Council vote Wednesday to create an international tribunal to prosecute suspects in the 2005 killing of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.

Syria's U.N. ambassador, Bashar Jaafari, said the resolution violates the U.N. charter and noted that three of the five council members that abstained represented Arab, Muslim and non-aligned countries. "The weight of these five countries bypasses by far the number of these countries," he said.

But the slain leader's son, Saad Hariri, hailed the vote as "a new chance for Lebanese unity." Speaking in a televised address, he said, "The Hariri tribunal is not a victory of one side over another in Lebanon. On the contrary, it is for all of Lebanon."

"Those who killed Rafik Hariri and so many others will be brought to justice and be held responsible for their crimes," U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad said. "The tribunal will also serve to deter future political assassinations. Those who might be tempted to commit similar crimes will know there will be consequences for perpetuating political violence and intimidation in Lebanon." (Posted 4:33 p.m.)

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/05/30/wednesday/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/05/30/wednesday/index.html)

as explained in the 'Hariri' thread, the Hariri killing is connected by a Golden Mean Phi based timecoded spiral with the next Venus Passage on June 6, 2012 and ultimately with the end of the Mayan Calender on December 21, 2012.
The Hariri Tribunal court will come into force on 10 June, 2007.
On June 10, 2007 it will be exactly 2 Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedrons prior to the Venus Passage:
2 times 911 = 1822 days
june 10, 2007 + 1822 days gives June 5, 2012 the start of the Venus Transit.
Connecting the Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedrons or a in other words:
an ongoing 911 based timecoded pattern

AND
On June 10, 2007 it is exactly 9 Venus Years in Eart days to the end of the Mayan calender on December 21, 2012
And
On June 10, 2007 It will take 23 Mercury Years in earth days untill the end of the Mayan Calender.
So Mercury 'The Messenger' and Venus will take the same position on their orbits on June 10, 2007 as they will take at the end of the Mayan Calender .
The Hariri Killing, Casus Belli WWIII ?:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=4157&mforum=hddesign#4157

Orphia Nay
31st May 2007, 09:05 PM
as explained in the 'Hariri' thread, the Hariri killing is connected by a Golden Mean Phi based timecoded spiral with the next Venus Passage on June 6, 2012 and ultimately with the end of the Mayan Calender on December 21, 2012.
The Hariri Tribunal court will come into force on 10 June, 2007.
On June 10, 2007 it will be exactly 2 Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedrons prior to the Venus Passage:
2 times 911 = 1822 days
june 10, 2007 + 1822 days gives June 5, 2012 the start of the Venus Transit.
Connecting the Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedrons or a in other words:
an ongoing 911 based timecoded pattern

AND
On June 10, 2007 it is exactly 9 Venus Years in Eart days to the end of the Mayan calender on December 21, 2012
And
On June 10, 2007 It will take 23 Mercury Years in earth days untill the end of the Mayan Calender.
So Mercury 'The Messenger' and Venus will take the same position on their orbits on June 10, 2007 as they will take at the end of the Mayan Calender .
The Hariri Killing, Casus Belli WWIII ?:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=4157&mforum=hddesign#4157


I suspect that this all is important if you believe the world revolves around Dutch and if you are Dutch.

Dutch, what's the importance of 9 (Venus years), and 23 (Mercury years)?

Why do you convert Venus and Mercury years to Earth years?

What do you think will happen on June 10 other than the court coming into force, and how will it affect me, or other JREF forumites, or non-Lebanese? Or, how will the court coming into force affect us?

Dutch
1st June 2007, 06:18 AM
just passing by to drop a post, I have been to busy this week. I will respond later


as anticipated and mentioned on the timeline since the beginning of the year:
a repost from the timeline:
updated June 2(+/- 1 day)
June 2, 2007 - Balkan Karma, keep an eye on Mladic, Karadzic, Seslj etc. and those politically responsible for the Srebrenica massacre
Friday June 1, 1:19 AM
War crime suspect, Mladic's closest ally arrested
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070531/1/48yby.html
Former Bosnian Serb general Zdravko Tolimir, a top fugitive of the UN war crimes tribunal and one of the closest allies of the most wanted suspect Ratko Mladic was arrested on Thursday, broadcaster B92 reported.
"Few minutes ago, an operation to arrest a fugitive wanted by the Hague tribunal was finished," B92 was told by minister Rasim Ljajic, a Serbian official in charge with cooperation with the UN war crimes court.
"We unofficially learned that general Zdravko Tolimir was the one arrested," said the television station, which is known for its reliability.
Tolimir, 58, who faces an indictment before the Hague-based UN war crimes tribunal for the Srebrenica massacre, was believed to have been hiding in Serbia.
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070531/1/48yby.html
In fact Tolimir is third on the most wanted list, just after Mladic and Karadzic

Paulhoff
1st June 2007, 08:00 AM
Dutch should move to Western Montana, he’ll fit right in. :czwacky:

Paul

:) :) :)

GodMark2
1st June 2007, 04:17 PM
As he has once again fallen into his typical pattern of ignoring me, there is no need for an original post on my part.

Dutch with more pictures of women walking dogs, and still claiming that this is proof that all Beldington Terriers are walked by women. Now, to my eye, at least some of these dogs look like Border Collies. And I have a bunch of pictures of men walking dogs that look eerily similar to the ones walked by women.

So, Dutch, how do I know that the events you're posting are important?

just passing by to drop a post, I have been to busy this week. I will respond later


as anticipated and mentioned on the timeline since the beginning of the year:
a repost from the timeline:
updated June 2(+/- 1 day)
June 2, 2007 - Balkan Karma, keep an eye on Mladic, Karadzic, Seslj etc. and those politically responsible for the Srebrenica massacre
Friday June 1, 1:19 AM
War crime suspect, Mladic's closest ally arrested
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070531/1/48yby.html
Former Bosnian Serb general Zdravko Tolimir, a top fugitive of the UN war crimes tribunal and one of the closest allies of the most wanted suspect Ratko Mladic was arrested on Thursday, broadcaster B92 reported.
"Few minutes ago, an operation to arrest a fugitive wanted by the Hague tribunal was finished," B92 was told by minister Rasim Ljajic, a Serbian official in charge with cooperation with the UN war crimes court.
"We unofficially learned that general Zdravko Tolimir was the one arrested," said the television station, which is known for its reliability.
Tolimir, 58, who faces an indictment before the Hague-based UN war crimes tribunal for the Srebrenica massacre, was believed to have been hiding in Serbia.
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070531/1/48yby.html
In fact Tolimir is third on the most wanted list, just after Mladic and Karadzic

Dutch
4th June 2007, 05:36 AM
Sorry GodMark2, but you will have to wait a little while longer. I have to focus on the current timeframe with June 7 and 10 coming up.

another hit on the timeline:

updated: June 2, 2007
from the timeline, placed months ago:
June 2, 2007 - Balkan Karma, keep an eye on Mladic, Karadzic, Seslj etc. and those politically responsible for the Srebrenica massacre
'Mothers of Srebrenica' left Srebrenica on June 2 for a 40-hours bus ride to Den Haag: The Netherlands charged for Srebrenica massacre!!!!
article in Dutch:
Nederland aangeklaagd om Srebrenica:
http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/article1414110.ece
no article in English available yet, i will post it when I find one

Dutch
4th June 2007, 05:56 AM
Srebrenica Relatives To Sue Netherlands, UN
June 4, 2007 -- Thousands of relatives of the victims of Srebrenica are to sue the Netherlands and the United Nations today for their failure to protect civilians at the time of the 1995 massacre in the Bosnian town.

Lawyers said the Netherlands and the UN should be held jointly responsible for the fall of the enclave and the genocide that took place there as a result. During the 1992-95 Bosnian war, Srebrenica was a UN-protected safe area guarded by a Dutch army unit.
But it was overrun in July 1995 by Bosnian Serb forces, who then took away and massacred some 8,000 Muslim men and boys.
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2007/06/9df8b3f2-a5ca-4780-8007-7a75bb6324d9.html

Paul
4th June 2007, 06:29 AM
Srebrenica Relatives To Sue Netherlands, UN
June 4, 2007Why is someone getting on a bus significant? They didn't protest until today (Monday 4th) and there is no date for any lawyers' statements so you can't count those as hits.

Dutch
4th June 2007, 07:09 AM
The Prime Minister already responded last Friday.


Srebrenica families sue Dutch state, U.N.
Mon Jun 4, 2007 9:21AM EDT
THE HAGUE (Reuters) - Angry relatives of victims of the 1995 Srebrenica massacre on Monday sued the Dutch state and the United Nations for allowing thousands of Muslims to be killed by Bosnian Serb forces.
Lawyers said the Dutch were to blame for refusing crucial air support to their own troops defending the Bosnian town under a U.N. mandate, clearing the way for the killing of 8,000-10,000 men and boys.
About 200 women, relatives of the Srebrenica victims, marched to Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende's office and handed in legal documents.
Carrying banners with the victims' names, the grim-faced women walked silently in circles outside the ministry, close to Parliament, for more than an hour.
"I have waited for 12 years for this, this could be another injustice if it is going to take a long time again," said Munera Subasic, chairwoman of the Foundation of Mothers of Srebrenica.
During the 1992-95 Bosnian war, Srebrenica was declared a safe area and guarded by a Dutch army unit serving as part of a larger U.N. force in Bosnia.
The lightly armed Dutch soldiers, lacking air support and under fire, were forced to abandon the enclave to Bosnian Serb forces, who took away and massacred Muslim men and boys who had relied on the protection of the Dutch troops.
"Shortly before the fall of the safe area air support was obstructed by the Netherlands itself," lawyers Axel Hagedorn and Marco Gerritsen of Dutch firm Van Diepen Van der Kroef said in the writ of summons filed at the district court of The Hague and made available to Reuters.
LEGAL DOCUMENTS
A spokesman for Balkenende's office said on Friday the Dutch state would not comment until it had received the legal documents.
About 6,000 relatives of Srebrenica victims, who have been dismayed by the failure of the two fugitive chief suspects to be brought to justice, are seeking recognition and redress for this tragedy.
Former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic and former Bosnian Serb Army chief Ratko Mladic are still on the run, wanted by the U.N. war crimes tribunal in The Hague on genocide charges.
In February the U.N.'s highest court cleared Serbia of genocide at Srebrenica, though it pronounced Belgrade guilty of failing to prevent genocide. Many Bosnian Muslims saw this as a further injustice against them.
The Dutch state has always said its troops were abandoned by the U.N. which gave them no air support, but public documents show a network of Dutch military officials within the U.N. Protection Force blocked air support because they feared their soldiers could be hit by friendly fire, the lawyers said.
"This 'Dutch line' ... maintained close contact with The Hague, breaching U.N. command and control," Hagedorn told Reuters in an interview.
"It is a wrong idea that the Dutch soldiers were let down by the United Nations," Gerritsen added. "It was a decision by high ranking Dutch officers together with the Dutch state to see that requests for air support were denied."
Air support could have contained the Bosnian Serb forces and halted their advance, the lawyers said
After requests for air support were initially granted by U.N officials the Dutch state did everything in its power to reverse this approval.
The lawyer argues that the U.N. is to blame for not trying to convince the Dutch that air support could not be recalled.
The Dutch government led by Wim Kok resigned in 2002 after a report on the massacre blamed politicians for sending the Dutch U.N. troops on an impossible mission.
However attempts by the families to seek compensation from the Dutch government were refused as the government denied any question of liability, the lawyers said, adding that the U.N. had also failed to respond to the families.
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL0437048320070604?pageNumber=1

Paul
4th June 2007, 10:01 AM
The Prime Minister already responded last Friday.Which isn't the 2nd either.

Paulhoff
4th June 2007, 10:12 AM
In the good old days, people like Dutch, edge, DJJ etc could go out-west and something would eat and/or kill them. The bottom line is that they would be out of our hair.

Paul

:) :) :)

Oh, for the good old days...........

GodMark2
4th June 2007, 04:23 PM
As he has once again fallen into his typical pattern of ignoring my points, while pretending to be paying attention, there is no need for an original post on my part.
Sorry GodMark2, but you will have to wait a little while longer. I have to focus on the current timeframe with June 7 and 10 coming up.

Pretending to pay attention, while ignoring the mesage being presented, will get you nowere.

Dutch with more pictures of women walking dogs, and still claiming that this is proof that all Beldington Terriers are walked by women. Now, to my eye, at least some of these dogs look like Border Collies. And I have a bunch of pictures of men walking dogs that look eerily similar to the ones walked by women.

So, Dutch, how do I know that the events you're posting are important?


The Prime Minister already responded last Friday.


Srebrenica families sue Dutch state, U.N.
Mon Jun 4, 2007 9:21AM EDT
THE HAGUE (Reuters) - Angry relatives of victims of the 1995 Srebrenica massacre on Monday sued the Dutch state and the United Nations for allowing thousands of Muslims to be killed by Bosnian Serb forces.
Lawyers said the Dutch were to blame for refusing crucial air support to their own troops defending the Bosnian town under a U.N. mandate, clearing the way for the killing of 8,000-10,000 men and boys.
About 200 women, relatives of the Srebrenica victims, marched to Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende's office and handed in legal documents.
Carrying banners with the victims' names, the grim-faced women walked silently in circles outside the ministry, close to Parliament, for more than an hour.
"I have waited for 12 years for this, this could be another injustice if it is going to take a long time again," said Munera Subasic, chairwoman of the Foundation of Mothers of Srebrenica.
During the 1992-95 Bosnian war, Srebrenica was declared a safe area and guarded by a Dutch army unit serving as part of a larger U.N. force in Bosnia.
The lightly armed Dutch soldiers, lacking air support and under fire, were forced to abandon the enclave to Bosnian Serb forces, who took away and massacred Muslim men and boys who had relied on the protection of the Dutch troops.
"Shortly before the fall of the safe area air support was obstructed by the Netherlands itself," lawyers Axel Hagedorn and Marco Gerritsen of Dutch firm Van Diepen Van der Kroef said in the writ of summons filed at the district court of The Hague and made available to Reuters.
LEGAL DOCUMENTS
A spokesman for Balkenende's office said on Friday the Dutch state would not comment until it had received the legal documents.
About 6,000 relatives of Srebrenica victims, who have been dismayed by the failure of the two fugitive chief suspects to be brought to justice, are seeking recognition and redress for this tragedy.
Former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic and former Bosnian Serb Army chief Ratko Mladic are still on the run, wanted by the U.N. war crimes tribunal in The Hague on genocide charges.
In February the U.N.'s highest court cleared Serbia of genocide at Srebrenica, though it pronounced Belgrade guilty of failing to prevent genocide. Many Bosnian Muslims saw this as a further injustice against them.
The Dutch state has always said its troops were abandoned by the U.N. which gave them no air support, but public documents show a network of Dutch military officials within the U.N. Protection Force blocked air support because they feared their soldiers could be hit by friendly fire, the lawyers said.
"This 'Dutch line' ... maintained close contact with The Hague, breaching U.N. command and control," Hagedorn told Reuters in an interview.
"It is a wrong idea that the Dutch soldiers were let down by the United Nations," Gerritsen added. "It was a decision by high ranking Dutch officers together with the Dutch state to see that requests for air support were denied."
Air support could have contained the Bosnian Serb forces and halted their advance, the lawyers said
After requests for air support were initially granted by U.N officials the Dutch state did everything in its power to reverse this approval.
The lawyer argues that the U.N. is to blame for not trying to convince the Dutch that air support could not be recalled.
The Dutch government led by Wim Kok resigned in 2002 after a report on the massacre blamed politicians for sending the Dutch U.N. troops on an impossible mission.
However attempts by the families to seek compensation from the Dutch government were refused as the government denied any question of liability, the lawyers said, adding that the U.N. had also failed to respond to the families.
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL0437048320070604?pageNumber=1

Srebrenica Relatives To Sue Netherlands, UN
June 4, 2007 -- Thousands of relatives of the victims of Srebrenica are to sue the Netherlands and the United Nations today for their failure to protect civilians at the time of the 1995 massacre in the Bosnian town.

Lawyers said the Netherlands and the UN should be held jointly responsible for the fall of the enclave and the genocide that took place there as a result. During the 1992-95 Bosnian war, Srebrenica was a UN-protected safe area guarded by a Dutch army unit.
But it was overrun in July 1995 by Bosnian Serb forces, who then took away and massacred some 8,000 Muslim men and boys.
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2007/06/9df8b3f2-a5ca-4780-8007-7a75bb6324d9.html

Sorry GodMark2, but you will have to wait a little while longer. I have to focus on the current timeframe with June 7 and 10 coming up.

another hit on the timeline:

updated: June 2, 2007
from the timeline, placed months ago:

'Mothers of Srebrenica' left Srebrenica on June 2 for a 40-hours bus ride to Den Haag: The Netherlands charged for Srebrenica massacre!!!!
article in Dutch:
Nederland aangeklaagd om Srebrenica:
http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/article1414110.ece
no article in English available yet, i will post it when I find one

Dutch
5th June 2007, 12:00 AM
Which isn't the 2nd either.

I always use a timeframe +/- 1 day, as explained when I posted the timeline

Do you think it only takes 24 hours to kill 10.000 muslims man and boys with bullits?

Dutch
5th June 2007, 12:03 AM
from timeline, posted months ago:

June 2, 2007 - Balkan Karma, keep an eye on Mladic, Karadzic, Seslj etc. and those politically responsible for the Srebrenica massacre

events:

Friday June 1, 1:19 AM
War crime suspect, Mladic's closest ally arrested
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070531/1/48yby.html
Arrested Tolimir is third on the list, just after Mladic and Karadzic
'Mothers of Srebrenica' left Srebrenica on June 2 for a 40-hours bus ride to
Den Haag: The Netherlands charged for Srebrenica massacre!!!!
Srebrenica Relatives To Sue Netherlands, UN
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2007/06/9df8b3f2-a5ca-4780-8007-7a75bb6324d9.html
Srebrenica families sue Dutch state, U.N.
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL0437048320070604
Bosnia suspect attacks UN arrest
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6719741.stm
BBC: Netherlands sued over Srebrenica
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6721139.stm
Net tightens on fugitive Mladic
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6712903.stm

Dutch
5th June 2007, 05:28 AM
As he has once again fallen into his typical pattern of ignoring my points, while pretending to be paying attention, there is no need for an original post on my part.


Pretending to pay attention, while ignoring the mesage being presented, will get you nowere.

I am not pretending, I haven't taken the time yet to read all replies and I will respond

Dutch
5th June 2007, 05:36 AM
I suspect that this all is important if you believe the world revolves around Dutch and if you are Dutch.

Dutch, what's the importance of 9 (Venus years), and 23 (Mercury years)?

Why do you convert Venus and Mercury years to Earth years?

What do you think will happen on June 10 other than the court coming into force, and how will it affect me, or other JREF forumites, or non-Lebanese? Or, how will the court coming into force affect us?

It means that the planets take the same geometrical positions on their orbits. My anticipations seem to imply that they could reflect an underlying timecoded pattern in our reality.

You have been reading this stuff for years now, first on CR forum, then BAUT and you still have missed the point that the Hariri killing is to be considered the initial trigger in an evolving war scenario?

Dutch
5th June 2007, 05:39 AM
Dutch with more pictures of women walking dogs, and still claiming that this is proof that all Beldington Terriers are walked by women. Now, to my eye, at least some of these dogs look like Border Collies. And I have a bunch of pictures of men walking dogs that look eerily similar to the ones walked by women.

So, Dutch, how do I know that the events you're posting are important?

The outlined pattern makes it possible to anticipate on future keydates.
The expression of the underlying theme on those keydates should indicate the validity of the underlying pattern.

GodMark2
5th June 2007, 04:10 PM
The outlined pattern makes it possible to anticipate on future keydates.
The expression of the underlying theme on those keydates should indicate the validity of the underlying pattern.

That would be true, if any of the events on your special days were somehow different from the events happening on all the pother days.

Thus far, there have been no types of events happening on your special days that were not also happening on other non-special days. Some people have died, other people get angry, other people set aside their differences. These events happen every day. Therefore there has been no pattern established.

Now, if you could provide us with a definition of what makes these events special, perhaps a pattern could be found. Until then, you are looking at clouds and seeing dragons. I see just clouds. Show me how to tell if a cloud is a dragon or not.

Dutch
6th June 2007, 12:31 AM
I can go with you through the timeline 2007 again if you like. I mean, look at the examples. Take the last one, the anticipation on a srebrenica related event for last weekend. I specifically mentioned the persons on the most wanted list and those politically responsible for the Srebrenica Massacre. It was put on the timeline months ago and around last weekend the third on the list was arrested and The Netherlnands is sued.

It was only mentioned once on the timeline for the first half year. Do you really think each random date would have given the same outcome?
These things doesn't happen every day, but it is the same underlying timecoded pattern that took out Arkan and Milosevic by Design and ultimately connected with the Srebrenica massacre in 1995.

Same thing with taking down of the Chinese sattelite, the 7-3-7 crash, the death of Jeltsin, the security issue related to Obama, the Hariri Tribunal and other events as mentioned on the timeline.

How big is the change a 7-3-7 comes down on a random day, that a 'Sun king' dies, that a high profile war-criminal is arrested and all the other examples as mentioned on the timeline? I have been doing these anticipations for some years now and they indeed show too much 'coincidental hits'.

Paulhoff
6th June 2007, 05:56 AM
No Dutch, you only tell us things after they happened, if we what the news we have only to turn on the TV and the Radio, or go onto the internet.

Paul

:) :) :)

Cuddles
6th June 2007, 06:14 AM
Show me how to tell if a cloud is a dragon or not.

If you get lightly toasted and then eaten it probably wasn't a cloud.

GodMark2
6th June 2007, 04:47 PM
I can go with you through the timeline 2007 again if you like. I mean, look at the examples. Take the last one, the anticipation on a srebrenica related event for last weekend. I specifically mentioned the persons on the most wanted list and those politically responsible for the Srebrenica Massacre. It was put on the timeline months ago and around last weekend the third on the list was arrested and The Netherlnands is sued.

It was only mentioned once on the timeline for the first half year. Do you really think each random date would have given the same outcome?
These things doesn't happen every day, but it is the same underlying timecoded pattern that took out Arkan and Milosevic by Design and ultimately connected with the Srebrenica massacre in 1995.

Same thing with taking down of the Chinese sattelite, the 7-3-7 crash, the death of Jeltsin, the security issue related to Obama, the Hariri Tribunal and other events as mentioned on the timeline.

How big is the change a 7-3-7 comes down on a random day, that a 'Sun king' dies, that a high profile war-criminal is arrested and all the other examples as mentioned on the timeline? I have been doing these anticipations for some years now and they indeed show too much 'coincidental hits'.

Yes, Dutch, lets go through that List Of Predictions.

Dutch, in your post of February 24, 2007 (known as the "List of Predictions")…

… the only reference to any plane crash you made was to flight 522. You made no mention to any 737 crash. You see it as 'important' only because it happened on a day you already decided MUST be important. ANY event would be able to be substituted for that, and you would still claim it as 'important'.

… you made no reference at all to any satellite. You see it as 'important' only because it happened on a day you already decided MUST be important. ANY event would be able to be substituted for that, and you would still claim it as 'important'.

… no mention of any kind was made to a death, Jeltsin’s or otherwise. You see it as 'important' only because it happened on a day you already decided MUST be important. ANY event would be able to be substituted for that, and you would still claim it as 'important'.

… Obama was never mentioned, let alone a security issue related to him. You see it as 'important' only because it happened on a day you already decided MUST be important. ANY event would be able to be substituted for that, and you would still claim it as 'important'.

… All references to Hariri were dated before the post was made, and as such, and not PREdictions, but rather POSTdictions. You see it as 'important' only because it happened on a day you already decided MUST be important. ANY event would be able to be substituted for that, and you would still claim it as 'important'.

So, of your last post, we are left only with
I specifically mentioned the persons on the most wanted list and those politically responsible for the Srebrenica Massacre.
Of course, you didn’t tell us what to be looking for:
June 2, 2007 - Balkan Karma, keep an eye on Mladic, Karadzic, Seslj etc. and those politically responsible for the Srebrenica massacre
"Keep an eye on" What a meaningless prediction. Any event at all that mentioned any of these people, or even anyone remotely related to the events, or perhaps even those simply accused of being related, with no proof of involvement, would have satisfied your 'prediction'. If Mladic had been photographed picking his nose, you would claim victory. If someone were mistakenly identified as Karadzic, you would claim victory. If Seslj destroyed the World Trade Center… Oh wait, it’s been done already.

You made mention of several likely names to come up. They were already looking (in January) at extraditing Mladic. "Those politically responsible" is such a wide net that nearly anyone involved in world politics in 1995 could be considered to fit that mold.

You will now claim that I’m being unfair, that I’m being too specific. That’s exactly why I wanted you to give us a definition, before gathering data, of what would be important. Had you given such a definition, there would be no room to be unfair.

Dutch
7th June 2007, 03:19 AM
No Dutch, you only tell us things after they happened, if we what the news we have only to turn on the TV and the Radio, or go onto the internet.

Paul

:) :) :)

I don't do exact predictions because I can't. I try to identify the hidden underlying timecoded pattern and the specific themes that could get momentum on specific moments in our perception of time. The timeline as i use it , is posted prior to the anticipated event.

Dutch
7th June 2007, 04:09 AM
Yes, Dutch, lets go through that List Of Predictions.

I don't do predictions. I try to 'set the stage' so to speak by identifying the hidden underlying timecoded pattern and themes that could get momentum on specific moments in our reality


Dutch, in your post of February 24, 2007 (known as the "List of Predictions")…

… the only reference to any plane crash you made was to flight 522. You made no mention to any 737 crash. You see it as 'important' only because it happened on a day you already decided MUST be important. ANY event would be able to be substituted for that, and you would still claim it as 'important'.


First: the difficult part of detecting an underlying timecoded pattern is to determine the Geometry the pattern come through in our reality. First step is to look at the triggerdates ( I use 6 triggerdates on 3 'windows' ).next step is to try to outline the pattern once the first connection has been made. In case of Srebrenica for instance: the pattern was already outlined based on the triggerdate info, matching with events in our reality. The outlined pattern made it possible to succesfully anticipate on the exit of Milosevic and just recently the arrest of Torimir and The Netherlands sued.
Srebrenica happened back in 1995, the flight 522 crash happened in August 2005 and the underlying has yet to be determined. That's why I have mentioned all 6 triggerdates on the timeline, on which one showed another 737 accident aswell. The others showed different information and probably more important, but time will tell. I will keep on anticipating in relation to the flight 522 crash in order to determine the pattern and the more profound underlying themes.

… you made no reference at all to any satellite. You see it as 'important' only because it happened on a day you already decided MUST be important. ANY event would be able to be substituted for that, and you would still claim it as 'important'.

The chinese hit on this satellite happened with Deep Impact on the triggers: manmade object hitting deliberately another object in space. Here the same thing, the profound underlying themes have yet to come to the surface and the patterns are just emerging and not yet outlined.
Again: I don't do an exact prediction, but this Chinese satellite sure seems related somehow, at least to me:)

… no mention of any kind was made to a death, Jeltsin’s or otherwise. You see it as 'important' only because it happened on a day you already decided MUST be important. ANY event would be able to be substituted for that, and you would still claim it as 'important'.

Yes i anticipated on an 'exit of a Sun King' on April 22 (+/- 1 day), although the motivation and outlining of the pattern was posted on BAUT forum in detail and not posted here.

… Obama was never mentioned, let alone a security issue related to him. You see it as 'important' only because it happened on a day you already decided MUST be important. ANY event would be able to be substituted for that, and you would still claim it as 'important'.

Same thing here, it was posted on BAUT forum where i was defending the theories during a 30 days ATM period.
The security issue was put on the timeline months ago and Obama was specifically mentioned for the May 3 timeframe. There were several timecoded patterns that came together that made me anticipate this way.

… All references to Hariri were dated before the post was made, and as such, and not PREdictions, but rather POSTdictions. You see it as 'important' only because it happened on a day you already decided MUST be important. ANY event would be able to be substituted for that, and you would still claim it as 'important'.

You can check on my forum and on a dozen others that the Hariri anticipations were posted prior to the anticipated dates ( HD dates at macrolevel). Someone at BAUT used the same argument and to prove it he came with an article about the Hariri tribunal that didn't hit the HD dates at macrolevel. He took the artticle from thousands of coogle hits, apparently at random. It was an article published on September 8, 2006, another keydate I expected an related development and where I have posted about on my forum. I had missed the article back in 2006 and now he comes uo with it in an effort to debunk the material. Instead he did a very big favor by providing the 'missing link', so in fact he gave subconsciously more credit to the material.


"Keep an eye on" What a meaningless prediction. Any event at all that mentioned any of these people, or even anyone remotely related to the events, or perhaps even those simply accused of being related, with no proof of involvement, would have satisfied your 'prediction'. If Mladic had been photographed picking his nose, you would claim victory. If someone were mistakenly identified as Karadzic, you would claim victory. If Seslj destroyed the World Trade Center… Oh wait, it’s been done already.

Seslj is already in jail and indeed I would have considered other events to be a hit, such as the arrest of Mladic or Karadzic, the death of Seslj in jail or his sentence. etc. In fact you are saying that a similar list of event could be made about this underlying theme for any random future date and that's jsut not true. Do it for today or tomorrow and it won't be the same as I did for the june 2 timeframe. I only mentioned it once on the timeline for 2007 and the most important development in relation to this theme indeed happened during that anticipated timeframe. Ofcourse it can be dismissed as coincidental, but I do this over and over again, with completely different underlying patterns and themes, that indeed show events on the anticipated datea that somehow 'have an air' of connectedness or are plain clear related with the underluying theme.

You made mention of several likely names to come up. They were already looking (in January) at extraditing Mladic. "Those politically responsible" is such a wide net that nearly anyone involved in world politics in 1995 could be considered to fit that mold.

They are looking for Mladic for more than 10 years. I expect he will finally be caught on an anticipated date outlined by the identified pattern. It will show up on the next timeline for the second hals of 2007 and beyond.
Safe haven Srebrenica was protected by Dutch troops if i may recall.
I don't think it was a stand-alone decission by the Dutch government and I have said repeatedly that the patterns, which are still running, will eventually identify those responsible at the highest levels.

You will now claim that I’m being unfair, that I’m being too specific. That’s exactly why I wanted you to give us a definition, before gathering data, of what would be important. Had you given such a definition, there would be no room to be unfair.

You aren't unair, not at all. I need to be pushed to make more clear what it all means.

Paulhoff
7th June 2007, 08:00 AM
I don't do exact predictions because I can't. I try to identify the hidden underlying timecoded pattern and the specific themes that could get momentum on specific moments in our perception of time. The timeline as i use it , is posted prior to the anticipated event.
Well anyone can do that, let us see, someone will die tomorrow, more bombs will kill tomorrow, people will be born tomorrow.

Paul

:) :) :)

Only you believe yourself here, stop wasting hard drive space on the forum for your BS.

Dutch
8th June 2007, 01:06 AM
Well anyone can do that, let us see, someone will die tomorrow, more bombs will kill tomorrow, people will be born tomorrow.

Paul

:) :) :)

Only you believe yourself here, stop wasting hard drive space on the forum for your BS.

You should do your research first before you think you can dismiss the anticipations in the HDDesign material that easily.
You don't have to believe me, you just have to make up your own mind about the future anticipations I will post and the 'hits' and odd coincidences or synchronicities that will pop up.

Dutch
8th June 2007, 02:53 AM
As I posted on the timeline prior to the timeframe, I expected developments related to the Hariri killing / situation regarding Syria during the Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron timeframe around April 22 ( +/-1 day).
It appears now that something important has happened on April 24 ( Asia time,still April 23 in US time and within the HD Tetrahedron timeframe / Dutch.), among the other developments which were already mentioned on the timline:
During a secure phone conversation for more than an hour, Olmert told Bush he had decided to check whether peace talks with Syria could be renewed and the US president apparently gave his go-ahead .
As a result, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has sent secret messages to Syria mooting renewed peace talks, with the green light from US President George W. Bush.
link:
Israel PM said to send Syria secret peace messages
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070608/1/493w2.html
I think we can expect that next steps have also been discussed in case these peace efforts won't work out in a positive way.

Cuddles
8th June 2007, 04:04 AM
A Thought

If I were John and John were me,
Then I'd be six and he'd be three.
If John were me and I were John,
I wouldn't have these trousers on.

A.A.Milne.

Thank you.

Paulhoff
8th June 2007, 06:59 AM
You should do your research first before you think you can dismiss the anticipations in the HDDesign material that easily.
You don't have to believe me, you just have to make up your own mind about the future anticipations I will post and the 'hits' and odd coincidences or synchronicities that will pop up.
You're just sick.

Paul

:) :) :)

Dutch
8th June 2007, 07:14 AM
What makes you think that?

Paulhoff
8th June 2007, 07:23 AM
What makes you think that?
I can THINK, and not mislead myself like you are doing with yourself.

Paul

:) :) :)

You have a common human disease called "I CAN't FOOL MYSELF".

Hans
8th June 2007, 11:14 AM
Dutch has run this same subject at Bad Astronomy - this subject is the basically the intellectual equivalent of Uncle Remus' tar baby. It is pointless

He went for 1,170 posts from August 20 2006 to 4 April when the thread was closed and another set up with a thirty day limit and the instructions to provide evidence.

This ran from 18 April to 18 May, in 298 - they go no where

The moderator who closed the thread said

I am going to take the middle ground and close this thread.

Dutch was not the OP. However, Dutch has voluntarily come to defend the merits of his ATM idea. In 1170 posts, it has failed completely wrt science and the scientific method. This thread has been going in circles for approx. 1150 posts, and the frustration levels are rising.

Dutch claims lack of time, but has found ample opportunity to post here. He also demonstrates no lack of time on his own board.

Dutch, if you wish to persue this ATM idea further, you may feel welcome and free to open a new thread in the ATM section, subject to the rules forthwith and whatnot.

Until then, this one is debunked.

End quote

He's just wasting your time - he will never come to the point nor provide understandable evidence

You have been warned ....LOL

GodMark2
8th June 2007, 05:24 PM
Dutch has run this same subject at Bad Astronomy - this subject is the basically the intellectual equivalent of Uncle Remus' tar baby. It is pointless

<snip>

He's just wasting your time - he will never come to the point nor provide understandable evidence

You have been warned ....LOL

Well, I have this irrational need to hold to the belief that all human beings are capable of learning. I see plenty of counter-examples every day, yet I persist in my belief, saying "maybe next time...".

Plus this has been a good opportunity to excersice my metaphor creation capabilities ;)

Put those two together and I'll just keep hoping that one of these metaphors will resonate with Dutch, and he'll finally figure out why his claim isn't supportable.

GodMark2
8th June 2007, 05:29 PM
You should do your research first before you think you can dismiss the anticipations in the HDDesign material that easily.
You don't have to believe me, you just have to make up your own mind about the future anticipations I will post and the 'hits' and odd coincidences or synchronicities that will pop up.

I don't do predictions. I try to 'set the stage' so to speak by identifying the hidden underlying timecoded pattern and themes that could get momentum on specific moments in our reality

In other words, you talk about vague generalities that will end up matching whatever happens and can never possibly be wrong, because they cover so much ground that there isn't ANY day that goes by that DOESN'T match your 'not-a-predictions'

We're back to the bag with all white marbles. If all the marbles are white, then how can the fact the all prime marbles be important? Answer: It's not important.

Dutch
11th June 2007, 03:28 AM
Dutch has run this same subject at Bad Astronomy - this subject is the basically the intellectual equivalent of Uncle Remus' tar baby. It is pointless

He went for 1,170 posts from August 20 2006 to 4 April when the thread was closed and another set up with a thirty day limit and the instructions to provide evidence.

This ran from 18 April to 18 May, in 298 - they go no where

The moderator who closed the thread said

I am going to take the middle ground and close this thread.

Dutch was not the OP. However, Dutch has voluntarily come to defend the merits of his ATM idea. In 1170 posts, it has failed completely wrt science and the scientific method. This thread has been going in circles for approx. 1150 posts, and the frustration levels are rising.

Dutch claims lack of time, but has found ample opportunity to post here. He also demonstrates no lack of time on his own board.

Dutch, if you wish to persue this ATM idea further, you may feel welcome and free to open a new thread in the ATM section, subject to the rules forthwith and whatnot.

Until then, this one is debunked.

End quote

He's just wasting your time - he will never come to the point nor provide understandable evidence

You have been warned ....LOL

It seems you have missed the odd synchronicities that popped up in those threads aswell as the succesfull anticipations. No one was able to debunk it, some who inded contributed to the thread, came up with important contributions which were apparently subcansciously initiated. Instead of trying to ridicule the concept, because that was what the thought they were doing, they came up with material that matched with the identified underlying patterns.
the moderator you are quoting had made a mistake, I have time.
I only said that I need more time than 30 days , but that should be obvious

Dutch
11th June 2007, 03:35 AM
In other words, you talk about vague generalities that will end up matching whatever happens and can never possibly be wrong, because they cover so much ground that there isn't ANY day that goes by that DOESN'T match your 'not-a-predictions'

We're back to the bag with all white marbles. If all the marbles are white, then how can the fact the all prime marbles be important? Answer: It's not important.

I talk about timecoded pattern and underlying themes.
Why don't you copy the items from the first half year from the timeline to the second half year and see what comes out of it? I expect nothing special but according to those who think it's nonsense, these same items should show at least comparable 'hits' as the first half of 2007 has shown.

GodMark2
11th June 2007, 04:25 PM
I talk about timecoded pattern and underlying themes.
Why don't you copy the items from the first half year from the timeline to the second half year and see what comes out of it? I expect nothing special but according to those who think it's nonsense, these same items should show at least comparable 'hits' as the first half of 2007 has shown.

Well, as the total number of hits so far is zero, that wouldn't be a hard number for the second half of the year to beat.

Now, if you could manage to define what would (and what would not) constitute a 'hit' than perhaps that number could rise.

Dutch
12th June 2007, 03:11 AM
June 10, 2007 - EXACTLY 20 Mercury 'The Messenger' years in Earth days after the 911 based starttrigger of the Hariri killing! In other words: Mercury at the same geometrical spot of the connecting Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron.
UN to vote on Hariri murder court
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6703587.stm
the court will come into force on 10 June.
UN approves Hariri murder court
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6703587.stm
ongoing 911 based pattern with next Venus Passage June 6, 2012
Mercury 'The Messenger' and Venus in same position as at end of Mayan calender
Second Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon, Ain Hilwa in the south, explodes in violence:
military sources report Syria has lined up an anti-Lebanese government front of Palestinian and Islamic radicals for an orchestrated campaign of violence to derail the UN Security Council resolution establishing an international tribunal for prosecuting the suspected murderers of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq Hariri.
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4271
Israel 'tests' Syria peace aims
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6737065.stm
Controversial Hariri court comes into force
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070610/1/494we.html
Syrian and Iranian Generals in Intensive War Consultations
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=article&aid=1279
UN concerned at arms crossing Lebanon-Syria border
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070612/1/4967h.html
The Security Council on Monday ( June 11 - Dutch) reiterated "deep concern" at mounting reports of "illegal movements of arms" across the Lebanese Syrian-border, amid fears of escalating strife
"a steady flow of weapons and armed elements across the border from Syria."
"The information from the government of Lebanon on trafficking of arms and militants across the Syrian-Lebanese border is disturbing"

Cuddles
12th June 2007, 03:20 AM
June 10, 2007 - EXACTLY 20 Mercury 'The Messenger' years in Earth days after the 911 based starttrigger of the Hariri killing! In other words: Mercury at the same geometrical spot of the connecting Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron.

What date was this start trigger exactly?

Dutch
12th June 2007, 04:52 AM
Just like 9/11 (September 11, 2001) and Madrid ( March 11, 2004) were connected by a hyper Dimensional tetrahedron: 911 days + events day, the Hariri killing on Hyper Dimensional Cube date February 14, 2005 was connected with another HD Cube date at macrolevel via an Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron: 911 days + events day is HD Cube date August 17, 2002 . On August 17, 2002 Mercury was on the same geometrical position of its orbit as on June 10, 2007 (+/- 1 day).

August 17, 2002 - June 11, 2007 = 1759 days

20 Mercury years in Earth days: 20 times 87.969 = 1759.3 days

Molinaro
12th June 2007, 06:46 AM
Why 911 days? Had the WTC attacks been on August 12 would you instead be using an interval of 812 days? Doesn't this seem a bit arbitrary to you?

Cuddles
12th June 2007, 07:08 AM
Just like 9/11 (September 11, 2001) and Madrid ( March 11, 2004) were connected by a hyper Dimensional tetrahedron: 911 days + events day, the Hariri killing on Hyper Dimensional Cube date February 14, 2005 was connected with another HD Cube date at macrolevel via an Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron: 911 days + events day is HD Cube date August 17, 2002 . On August 17, 2002 Mercury was on the same geometrical position of its orbit as on June 10, 2007 (+/- 1 day).

August 17, 2002 - June 11, 2007 = 1759 days

20 Mercury years in Earth days: 20 times 87.969 = 1759.3 days

And what exactly was the trigger? I wasn't asking you to work out what 20*88 was, I was asking about what you think happened then. You have not even pretended that anything actually happened then, you have simply said that it must have because that's when you decided something happened. Please provide some actual evidence that the "trigger" actually occured on 17/08/02

Dutch
13th June 2007, 12:37 AM
Why 911 days? Had the WTC attacks been on August 12 would you instead be using an interval of 812 days? Doesn't this seem a bit arbitrary to you?
No, because it takes 911 days to connect 2 dots of the Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron as described in the material.

Dutch
13th June 2007, 12:47 AM
And what exactly was the trigger? I wasn't asking you to work out what 20*88 was, I was asking about what you think happened then. You have not even pretended that anything actually happened then, you have simply said that it must have because that's when you decided something happened. Please provide some actual evidence that the "trigger" actually occured on 17/08/02

That would be the assassination of Abu Nidal on August 16, 2002 in Bagdad, opponent of Arafat's Fatah.
Abu Nidal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Nidal

The Palestinean conflict is part of the evolving war scenario. As a 'coincidence' fresh clashes between Hamas and Fatah emerged on the same anticipated timeframe around june 10, 2007

Fatah boycott after Gaza fighting
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6747207.stm

Cuddles
13th June 2007, 03:53 AM
That would be the assassination of Abu Nidal on August 16, 2002 in Bagdad

Unfortunately that doesn't seem to have any link, direct or indirect, to the assassination of Hariri.

Molinaro
13th June 2007, 05:12 AM
No, because it takes 911 days to connect 2 dots of the Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron as described in the material.

But what determines the positioning and size of the tetrahedron? I know the answer, it's the significant events you see. However we are back to the question you will not answer: What determines what is and what is not a significant event? How do you justify ignoring all the equaly significant events that occur on dates that do not line up with your predetermined size and alignment of the tetrahedron?

Dutch
14th June 2007, 12:16 AM
This is really in the face: I expected a connection and it instantly pops up:
Mercury 'The Messenger' is at exactly the same position as during the awakenings starttrigger date related to November 11, 2004, the day Arafat died!
555 'awakenings' starttriggerdate related to November 11, 2004:
May 6, 2003
May 6, 2003 - June 10, 2007 = 1496 days or
exactly 17 Mercury 'The Messenger' years in Earth days
Mercury at the same geometrical spot
Disturbing developments:
Lebanese lawmaker killed in Beirut blast
POSTED: 0621 GMT (1421 HKT), June 14, 2007
BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- A member of the Lebanese parliament died in a Beirut bomb blast Wednesday -- the latest anti-Syrian politician to be killed in the country.
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/13/beirut.blast/index.html
Bush links Syria to killing of Lebanese MP
Thursday June 14
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070614/1/497t8.html
Abbas warns of 'collapse'
POSTED: 0256 GMT (1056 HKT), June 13, 2007
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/13/gaza.fighting/index.html

Dutch
14th June 2007, 12:30 AM
Unfortunately that doesn't seem to have any link, direct or indirect, to the assassination of Hariri.

Well, todays news should make that clear to you

Dutch
14th June 2007, 12:55 AM
But what determines the positioning and size of the tetrahedron? I know the answer, it's the significant events you see. However we are back to the question you will not answer: What determines what is and what is not a significant event? How do you justify ignoring all the equaly significant events that occur on dates that do not line up with your predetermined size and alignment of the tetrahedron?
First of all, every single moment in our reality and every single event in our personal lives and at macro level are somehow interwoven with other dimensional realms, becomming visible in our reality indirectly by the Hyper Dimensionally initiated Geometry. These Platonic Solids have no 3D shape in our reality. If you want to visualize: the look flat, rolled over and pushed + flattened, only to unveil their presence when orbitting elements travel through the geometrically determined interference area's. They are placed upon an orbit so to speak. Each moment in our reality is connected via these geometrical 'figures' and on earth for instance it takes 911 days to connect 2 dots of a HD Tetrahedron. The orientation of the Main 'solids' at macro level have been determined and fixed by high impact 'marker' events in our reality, like 9/11 the Madrid Bombings and the Hariri killing for instance. The 'size' doesn't matter as we are looking at how long it takes for an orbitting element to travel through an specific area on it's orbit.
2 dots of an HD Tetrahedron placed upon the orbit of Venus for instance will take 563 Earth days to connect, with 563 days being 911/Phi Golden Mean.
What is a significant event? I think everything is significant, but we do have high impact events and very subtle events, that could even pass by unnoticed. Most important thing is to Identify underlying themes and to outline the pattern. future observations should give the final confirmation in the end. There's no other way to deal with this. If I should talk about the past and apply this HDDesign nobody would accept it. That's why I do these anticipations on future events, not only to try to 'prove' the validity of the concept, but also to increase our awareness of the underlying themes and patterns so it could become possible for our reality to become subtle.
Our reality isn't build by stand alone events. A complete understanding of the Geometry of our reality should enable us to put everything into perspective, however i think that it would be a bridge too far for the human mind to comprehend it all.

Paulhoff
14th June 2007, 06:45 AM
This is really in the face: I expected a connection and it instantly pops up:
Mercury 'The Messenger' is at exactly the same position as during the awakenings starttrigger date related to November 11, 2004, the day Arafat died!
555 'awakenings' starttriggerdate related to November 11, 2004:
May 6, 2003
May 6, 2003 - June 10, 2007 = 1496 days or
exactly 17 Mercury 'The Messenger' years in Earth days
Mercury at the same geometrical spot
Disturbing developments:
Lebanese lawmaker killed in Beirut blast
POSTED: 0621 GMT (1421 HKT), June 14, 2007
BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- A member of the Lebanese parliament died in a Beirut bomb blast
Wednesday -- the latest anti-Syrian politician to be killed in the country.
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/13/beirut.blast/index.html
Bush links Syria to killing of Lebanese MP
Thursday June 14
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070614/1/497t8.html
Abbas warns of 'collapse'
POSTED: 0256 GMT (1056 HKT), June 13, 2007
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/13/gaza.fighting/index.html
You are in no way a mentally well person, you see connects where ever you want to see them, there is no true reasoning behind these so-called connections. And I am sure that you don’t ever know what a precession is and how that would come into play with your so-called connections.

Paul

:) :) :)

Cuddles
14th June 2007, 06:51 AM
Well, todays news should make that clear to you

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6751175.stm
Yep, that's me convinced.

Molinaro
14th June 2007, 04:42 PM
I think that could be the most significant thing to hapen that day.

Paulhoff
14th June 2007, 05:02 PM
I think that could be the most significant thing to hapen that day.
Not to people who have lost a love one die, for one.

Paul

:) :) :)

Dutch
15th June 2007, 02:11 AM
You are in no way a mentally well person, you see connects where ever you want to see them, there is no true reasoning behind these so-called connections. And I am sure that you don’t ever know what a precession is and how that would come into play with your so-called connections.

Paul

:) :) :)

Well, you would be surprised to find out about my mental situation if you would meet me in real life, but it is alright with me if you have your doubts because I have to keep my ego low profile. Much of this HDDesign material emerged by intuitive thoughts initiated by synchronicities or 'coincidences' that gave opportunity to 'tune in' on the underlying themes and patterns. If valid, these indications of hidden underlying Design should pop up instantly when looking at it with the rational mind. The sub-conscious mind seems to be able to detect the underlying patterns and if you take these indications serious, than the coherence could become clear. I have had so much 'in the face' moments and synchronicities before I event started to consider the possibility that it could indeed be the truth, that there are indeed hidden underlying timecoded patterns in our reality. If you have read the material and if you have followed the postings on the 2007 timeline, than you should come to the conclusion that there are to many 'coincidences' in the material to dismiss it, even for the most rigid minds among us.
I will continue to anticipate on future developments and I will continue to show you the synchronicities that unveil the hidden underlying Design.
It will change the way you think

Paulhoff
15th June 2007, 05:51 AM
Well, you would be surprised to find out about my mental situation if you would meet me in real life, but it is alright with me if you have your doubts because I have to keep my ego low profile. Much of this HDDesign material emerged by intuitive thoughts initiated by synchronicities or 'coincidences' that gave opportunity to 'tune in' on the underlying themes and patterns. If valid, these indications of hidden underlying Design should pop up instantly when looking at it with the rational mind. The sub-conscious mind seems to be able to detect the underlying patterns and if you take these indications serious, than the coherence could become clear. I have had so much 'in the face' moments and synchronicities before I event started to consider the possibility that it could indeed be the truth, that there are indeed hidden underlying timecoded patterns in our reality. If you have read the material and if you have followed the postings on the 2007 timeline, than you should come to the conclusion that there are to many 'coincidences' in the material to dismiss it, even for the most rigid minds among us.
I will continue to anticipate on future developments and I will continue to show you the synchronicities that unveil the hidden underlying Design.
It will change the way you think
Sorry, but my evaluation stands.

You need a so-called design and you will to the best of your ability make one. There is no underlying time code, you have only replaced one so-called god with another so-called god called TIMECODE.


Paul

:) :) :)

Dutch
15th June 2007, 06:38 AM
Sorry, but my evaluation stands.

You need a so-called design and you will to the best of your ability make one. There is no underlying time code, you have only replaced one so-called god with another so-called god called TIMECODE.


Paul

:) :) :)

Time will tell

Broes
15th June 2007, 06:39 AM
Dutch, you are looking for correlations/patterns that aren't there...

If your theories of recurring timeline events holds true, then you should be able to predict precise events before they happen, not trying to find a simular event with hindsight.

Correlating the death of Arafat with an other prominent arabic person or an airplane accident with another airline related incident holds little value since events like this happen on a regular basis.

If you have a specific event it is rather easy to find a relatively simular event as long as you browse enough newspapers, no matter if this on a recurring timeline or not...

If you manage to make accurate predictions, then you will cause a revolution... Till then you are just chasing ghosts of your own imagination.

Bruce Jongejans

Paulhoff
15th June 2007, 11:55 AM
Time will tell
And all like you now, and all like you before have failed time and time again, so has you said, time will tell, but you forgot to say, time has told that you have already failed.

Paul

:) :) :)

Dutch
18th June 2007, 12:54 AM
Dutch, you are looking for correlations/patterns that aren't there...

If your theories of recurring timeline events holds true, then you should be able to predict precise events before they happen, not trying to find a simular event with hindsight.

I try to identify the underlying patterns and the underlying themes for specific timeframes in our future. I post anticipations on the timeline prior to these future dates. I do this because analysis based on historical data only wouldn't convince anyone. There are way too many 'hits' on the timeline and in the material as posted since 2003 to dismiss it as just coincidental. I have always said that I don't do exact predictions as I can't 'see' the future how it will materialize. I think that our future isn't fixed yet but that we do have to deal with specific issues at specific moments in our time. When I talk about 'Srebrenica Karma' for a specific timeframe and I expect 'someone will be taken out by Design', than I can't tell you the difference between Milosevic who died on the anticipated timeframe or for instance Mladic getting killed while arrested. There's much more needed to see that difference between Milosevic and Mladic if you understand what I mean. Probably additional analysis of both men would have given additional indications but than you also have to look at Karadzic, Tolimir etc, and those potentially politically responsible for the Srebreneca Massacre. Sometimes it is possible to become near an exact prediction, like I did around the exit of JPII and Arafat for instance, but it is not possible to analyse everything prior to the anticipated dates, that's just too much to cope with. I have a focus on events at the Macro level because they somehow have an effect on all of us, although we are probably not consciously aware of it.
I have said repeatedly that the Hariri killing on february 14, 2005 will be considered afterwards to be the initial event that caused an evolving war with a Syria-first scenario

Correlating the death of Arafat with an other prominent arabic person or an airplane accident with another airline related incident holds little value since events like this happen on a regular basis.

You should look at these things in context of the outlined patterns. If you just mention it like this it seems indeed meaningless.


If you have a specific event it is rather easy to find a relatively simular event as long as you browse enough newspapers, no matter if this on a recurring timeline or not...


That's not how it works because I have a focus on the macrolevel. I only use news items from the highest level at macro level, that is CNN and BBC, with occasionally supportive publications from other sources. It does not happen everyday that the Pope, Arafat, milosevic or Jeltsin dies for instance, or that the birdflu breaks out or that a similar July 7 London bombings event happens as anticipated. I can go on for pages.


If you manage to make accurate predictions, then you will cause a revolution... Till then you are just chasing ghosts of your own imagination.

I assure that I wouldn't do this if I wasn't convinced this concept is based on fundamental truth.

JJM 777
18th June 2007, 01:10 AM
If "dimension" means "a factor that defines the location of an object", some obvious "dimensions" would be:

- the three-dimensional X,Y,Z grid
- time
- category of existence (only one is known by science, the one where we are now)

Broes
18th June 2007, 02:23 AM
I assure that I wouldn't do this if I wasn't convinced this concept is based on fundamental truth.

Then by all means show us once you have a solid testable theory which can predict precise future events.

Till then you will be considered just another attention seeker with unproven claims...

Bruce Jongejans

Dutch
5th July 2007, 06:46 AM
As Goro points out, there seems to be a Phi Golden Mean reference encoded in last Fridays events (terrorist attacks in GB on june 29):
http://www.supertorchritual.com/underground/images/venustransit-phi-pt.gif
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/
First thought was to check the Golden mean Phi geometry in relation to the July 7, 2005 bombings
July 7, 2005 - June 29, 2007 = 722 days
722 days times Phi Golden Mean 1.6180339 gives 1168 days
1168 days prior to July 7, 2005 gives April 26, 2002
April 26, 2002 - Robert Steinhäuser opens fire on his former teachers and other students in Erfurt, Germany and then kills himself; 16 are dead.
The Erfurt massacre was a school shooting that occurred on April 26, 2002 at the Johann Gutenberg Gymnasium in Erfurt, Germany. Sixteen people were killed before the perpetrator committed suicide. The victims comprised 13 school staff, two students and one police officer.
Erfurt massacre:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erfurt_massacre
note that the Erfurt massacre happened during the annually recurring '13 satanic days period' from April 19 - May 1
When you think about Erfurt, you think about Columbine
Mercury The Messenger was at exactly the same geometrical position during the Columbine School massacre as during the timeframe around June 29, 2007
also, because the pentagram is subject in this thread:
June 29, 2007 and April 16, 2007 are 2 sequensive dots of a Pentagram:
The Virginia Tech massacre was a school shooting comprised of two separate attacks about two hours apart on April 16, 2007, on the Virginia Tech campus in Blacksburg, Virginia, United States. Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 people[5] and wounded 25[4] before committing suicide,[6] making it the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history.[7][8]
Virginia Tech massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_tech_massacre
It looks like these schoolshootings do have a story to tell.
September 22, 2002
is the 911 based endtrigger date of the 'control timeframe' ( with the correct year) for March 21, 2005:
The Red Lake High School massacre was a school massacre that took place on Monday, March 21, 2005 in which Jeffrey Weise, a student at Red Lake High School in Red Lake, Beltrami County, Minnesota, killed seven people including a teacher and a security guard. He had previously killed his grandfather (a police officer) and his grandfather's girlfriend/partner at home before going to school to commit the massacre. Seven others were wounded. When police cornered Weise inside the school, he shot and killed himself.
Red Lake High School massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Lake_High_School_massacre
AND
September 22, 2002 is 1666 starttrigger of the 'Ascension timeframe' ( with the correct year) of April 16, 2007:
The Virginia Tech massacre was a school shooting comprised of two separate attacks about two hours apart on April 16, 2007, on the Virginia Tech campus in Blacksburg, Virginia, United States. Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 people[5] and wounded 25[4] before committing suicide,[6] making it the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history.[7][8]
Virginia Tech massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_tech_massacre
When the news about these June 29 terrorist attacks came through I had to think of 9/11
June 29 didn't ring a bell so I decided to check a possible Pentagram reference with 9/11 because that was what I was doing at this specific moment. It poped up instantly:
September 11, 2001 - June 29, 2009 is 2117 days
2117 / 73 = 29
2 dots of a connecting Pentagram
So now there are 3 connecting dots of this Pentagram with the same orientation:
June 29, 2007 - 9/11 - and the Virginia tech Massacre
This is really in the face:
The Columbine High school massacre and the Virginia Tech massacre mark the same period of time as between the 2004 and 2012 Venus Transit. (with its Phi point on June 29)
Within a +/- 1 day correction:
Venus Transit:
June 8, 2004 - June 5, 2012 = 2919 days
Columbine - Virginia tech:
April 20, 199 - April 16, 2007 = 2918 days
Note that the effect of a Venus Passage is longer than 1 day on Earth, so the time frames do fit.
Aprox 13 Venus Years in earth days, 8 Earth years.
or in other words:
there's the same timeframe between the 2 most significant schoolshootings and the Venus Passages of our times:
Columbine Highschool massacre - Venus Transit 2004
and
Virginia Tech massacre - Venus Transit 2012
So what do these schoolshootings have to tell us? Personally, I was 'touched' by these ultimate 'dark expressions' of consciousness, emerging in our reality intelligently linked if the triggersystems based on the 'awakenings' - , 'ascension' - and 'control' timeframes are applied, besides the other elements of Design like the Golden Mean Phi ratio and the positions of the inner planets.
The most important thing that must be clear about these shootings is that it seems there's no direct manipulation with mindcontrol by TPTB as some suggest on the internet. I mean, it isn't only happening in the US, it's also happening in Canada and Germany, intelligently linked on the patterns.
These people who commit such crimes seem to have the proper mindset and circumstances to expres in our reality what seems to have to come out one way or the other. The events are related, at least that's what the Design seems to imply, but we cannot blame the Colorado shooter to be responsible for the shooting in Germany.
It's a consciousness thing.
We should seriously ask ourselves the question what these shootings really mean and what they mean to us personally in terms of responsibilities
stay tuned
Schoolshootings
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about274-hddesign.html

Paulhoff
5th July 2007, 07:30 AM
You are not well Dutch, you should find professional help fast.

Paul

:) :) :)

Dutch
7th July 2007, 02:34 AM
Since the first half of 2007 is history now, I will post the end timeline for the first half of 2007. Note that all dates and themes were posted prior to the monitored dates.
All dates are +/- 1 day. Not only because of the time differences on Earth but also because these dates are in fact related to Geometrically determined specific area's on Earth's orbit around the Sun, corresponding with our system of dates. How large these specific ares are is unknown but I normally use the +/- 1 day correction, although it might be valid to extend the window. Consider the given dates as 'peak' dates, getting momentum towards and lessening in effect afterwards.
I will mention the dates with a short explanation and/or keywords, or a link to the related threads for specific information
The list will be updated regularly and developments will be monitored and anticipated on in the related threads
If you can't use the given links, than read the copied text in the related post in this thread.
December 31, 2006 / January 1, 2007 - Hyper Dimensional Pole date. Freedom Tower. end date/ start date on the ongoing 'exit of SunKing' timecoded pattern.http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=3086&mforum=hddesign#3086
Saddam hanged
Saddam (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=234&mforum=hddesign)
January 5, 2007 - Deep Impact becomes 911 trigger
Comet McNaught
http://spaceweather.com/comets/gallery_mcnaught.htm
January 10, 2007 - Deep Impact becomes 555 trigger
Updated Jan. 10:New Comet is Brightest in 30 Years
http://space.com/spacewatch/070104_comet_mcnaught.html
China confirms satellite downed
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6289519.stm
January 13, 2007 - start date on the ongoing 7-4-7 based July 7 London Bombings timecoded pattern. 555 endtrigger date related to the July 7 London bombings
Blast at U.S. Embassy in Athens called 'serious attack'
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/01/12/athens.blast/index.html
21 July 'bomb plot' trial starts
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6261899.stm
January 18, 2007 - Deep Impact on a 911 based inspiralling (563 days)
Dwarf planet 'becoming a comet'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6268799.stm
Deep Impact Galactica, posted on January 18: http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/deepimpact-galactica.htm
another Deep Impact event in space:
China Tests Anti-Satellite Weapon
http://quickstart.clari.net/voa/art/fj/2007-01-18-voa73.html
China test sparks space arms fears
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6278867.stm
Concern over China's missile test
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6276543.stm
US demands answers on China test
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6281247.stm
January 19 - 22 - the 'sevens' and 'heart of the 4' of the London Bombings timecoded pattern, with the most significant related date:
Tube shooting letters to be sent
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6275225.stm
Lords could hear Menezes appeal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6279957.stm
Friend 'helped bomb plot accused'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6286271.stm
Two held in Halifax terror raid
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6289581.stm
January 21, 2007 - 911 / Golden Mean Phi after the July 7 london Bombings. link (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=14&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&mforum=hddesign).triggerdate related to flight 522
Algerian terror suspect deported
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6281593.stm
triggerdate related to flight 522:Protesters barricade Beirut roads
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6288503.stm
January 25, 2007 - related to 'ascension endtriggerdate' Deep Impact
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v117/Dutch23031965/deepimpact1.gif
also Mercury is at the same geometrical position as during flight 522 crash
January 27, 2007 - A terrorist attack on London, similar to the July 7 attacks, becomes 555 triggerevent
July bomb suspect 'strolled away'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6302203.stm
Safety fears for terror suspects
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6304677.stm
January 28, 2007 - Also becomming triggerevent: A Brazilian electrician, Jean Charles de Menezes, is shot dead at a London underground station by police who mistake him for a suicide bomber.

February 1, 2007 - Imbolc Cross-quarter day. Saddam . link (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?t=197&mforum=hddesign)
555 triggerevent: July 26 - STS-114: The Space Shuttle Discovery is launched on its "Return To Flight" mission
Another terror plot in the UK, see update below
Terror raids over 'beheading plot',CNN:
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/01/31/uk.terror.arrests/index.html
Sea Launch Destroyed On Pad In Fiery Explosion
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Sea_Launch_Operations_To_Be_Resumed_Despite_Liftof f_Failure_999.html
The exit of Sun King theme is also hitting this key date:
Defiant Blair rejects quit calls
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6323149.stm
February 4, 2007 - Sharon
February 6, 2007 - triggerdate related to flight 522
from Goro: Mayan Contact Midpoint, see update below
Syria 'can broker peace in Iraq'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6332479.stm
Iran setting up atomic centrifuges
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/05/iran.nuclear.ap/index.html
A surprise UN-Lebanese signing establishes the Special Hariri Tribunal. Damascus expected to fight back inside Lebanon and on Israel’s northern borders
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=3816

February 11, 2007 - Venus Century Hirhoshima. triggerdate related to flight 522
Iran: Giant achievements coming soon
Ahmadinejad: On February 11, Islamic Republic's nuclear rights 'will be established' http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3360816,00.html
added on Feb 11,Putin: U.S. pushing others into nuclear ambitions
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/10/putin.us.ap/index.html
and: Iran insists on nuclear programme
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6351137.stm
US accuses Iran over Iraq bombs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6351257.stm
Iran's leader condemns US claims
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6353923.stm
Democrats wary over Iran claims
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6352899.stm
Iran: Nuclear announcement coming in April
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/11/iran.nuclear/index.html
N. Korea nuclear talks drag on over energy aid
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16967996/
February 14, 2007 - Hyper Dimensional Cube date. The Hariri Killing, Casus Belli WWIII ? (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=70&mforum=hddesign#70). Venus Century Nagasaki
Nagasaki on the 555 starttriggers
'Deal reached' at N Korea talks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6355681.stm
N Korea 'agrees to disarmament'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6356481.stm
'Eleven die' in Lebanon bus bombs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6356271.stm
Tension high for Hariri protest
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6359669.stm
Iranian bombing kills 18 people
Iranian officials have accused Britain and the United States of supporting ethnic minority rebels operating in the Islamic republic's sensitive border areas.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6359971.stm
U.S.: Radical cleric al-Sadr in Iran
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/14/iraq.main/index.html
Fragile Lebanon needs urgent remedy
The double bomb attack on buses in the Christian mountains north-east of Beirut could not have been more provocative, coming at a time of extreme political tensions that had already taken Lebanon to the brink of civil war.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6357569.stm
An unknown Syrian group calls for prisoner exchange with Israel
http://www.debka.com/
Thousands flock to Hariri protest
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6359669.stm
Bush maintains pressure on Iran
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6362307.stm
60 days period ends April 14 :N Korea still unsure over funds
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6551039.stm

February 15, 2007 - Hyper Dimensional Cube date. The Hariri Killing, Casus Belli WWIII ? (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=70&mforum=hddesign#70). triggerdate related to flight 522
2 Mercury Years in Earthdays after the 555 endtrigger related to the Hariri killing
Venus Century Nagasaki
Nagasaki on the 555 starttriggers
Madrid bombings trial to begin
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/14/spain.trial/index.html
Radical Shia cleric 'is in Iran'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6364193.stm
Saudis to purchase nuclear option
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=3838
Madrid bombings trial: Key defendant refuses to testify
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/15/spain.trial/index.html
Madrid trial suspects deny guilt
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6368327.stm

February 20, 2007 - 555 endtrigger related to the flight 522 crash
EXACTLY 106 Venus Years since Pearl Harbor. Cory Lidle's plane crash in NY: Mercury 'The Messenger' alignment. indications related to the exit of Assad clan in Syria
US 'Iran attack plans' revealed
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6376639.stm
Iran accuses American, British and Israeli secret services of plotting last Wednesday’s explosions in Zahedan, capital of Iranian Baluchistan
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=3857
anticipated 'Pearl Harbor' references:
US troops may attack nuclear and military targets in neighboring Iran when a high-casualty attack is traced directly to Tehran
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=3860
and
Deadly toxic bomb hits Iraqi town
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/20/iraq.main/index.html
Tehran seeks unconditional talks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6378289.stm
Syria urges dialogue with US on all issues
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070220/wl_mideast_afp/syriausdiplomacy_070220110324;_ylt=AhwINrYDXAq7o0L xl4oh0D4LtUsB
Tehran dismisses threat of force
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6380879.stm
The carrier USS John C. Stennis arrives in the region Monday at the same time as Iranian war games
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=3864
Iran 'swiftly seeks nuclear goal'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6381477.stm
Force won't work on nuclear issue, Iran says
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/20/iran.nuclear.reut/index.html
U.S. admiral questions Iran's motives
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/20/iran.us/index.html
February 23-24, 2007 - keydate related to the 'exit of Sun King', related to Anna Nicole marker event.
1 Venus Year after: 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict: Israeli troops invade Lebanon
3 Venus Years after April 19 - Papal conclave, 2005: Pope Benedict XVI (Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger) succeeds Pope John Paul II, becoming the 265th pope.
another indication:
New film shows JFK moments before assassination
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/19/jfk.film.reut/index.html
White House: Cheney plane fine after minor problem
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/24/cheney.plane.reut/index.html
Attorney: Sealed Documents Indicate OKC Inside Job
FBI, defense team files identify government informants directing McVeigh
http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/okc_bombing_attorney_sealed_docs_indicated_inside_ job.htm
Al-Qa'eda 'plotted to kill Blair in front of Queen'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/26/nalqaeda26.xml
Madrid bombs suspect quotes pope
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/26/spain.trial/index.html
February 28, 2007 - 911 based Golden Mean timespiral flight 522 crash. breaking the Code (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=302&mforum=hddesign#302)
U.S., Iran and Syria may talk face to face about Iraq
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/27/iraq.conference/index.html
'State of panic' after Baghdad car bomb kills 10
POSTED: 0911 GMT (1711 HKT), February 28, 2007
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/28/iraq.main/index.html
Although i don't understand the correlation yet, other than another 'symbolic crash', I do want to mention it here because of the timing of these problems for the stock markets:
Global markets struggle to recover from sell-off
POSTED: 1327 GMT (2127 HKT), February 28, 2007
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/BUSINESS/02/28/global.markets/index.html
White House: U.S. won't talk to Syria, Iran directly
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/28/iraq.conference/index.html
Eurovision 'Armageddon' in Israel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6405457.stm
North Korea pledges to quit nukes
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/03/01/nkorea.talks.ap/index.html
:!: The liquid explosives sought six months after foiled al Qaeda airline terror plot from the UK are found in Lebanon
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=3889
U.S. Concedes Uncertainty on North Korean Uranium Effort
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/01/washington/01korea.html?_r=2&hp=&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
March 7, 2007 - triggerdate related to flight 522
US and N Korea in landmark talks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6419975.stm
another 737 coming down:
Indonesia jet explodes on landing
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6425419.stm
US, North Korea end milestone talks on optimistic note
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070307/1/47417.html
March 12, 2007 - Hyper dimensional Tetrahedron
exactly 7 Mercury 'The Messenger' years in Earth days after Deep Impact on Temple I
update Goro to be expected
ongoing awakenings pattern Sharon as PM
Towering tribute marks Spain bombs
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/03/11/spain.trial.ap/index.html
Bush urges Iran, Syria to back up words with action on Iraq
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070312/1/477fl.html
Top EU official travels to Beirut ahead of historic Syria visit
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070312/1/477fv.html
ElBaradei arrives in China en route to NKorea
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070312/1/477cw.html
Nuclear chief warns over N Korea
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6440913.stm
Dubai airport shut after accident
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6440747.stm
Minister quits over Trident plans
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6441627.stm
Jet crash boxes fail to yield info
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/03/12/indonesia.plane.reut/index.html
Syria urges broader US dialogue
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6443015.stm
EU optimistic after Lebanon talks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6443527.stm
UN 'progress' over Iran sanctions
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6444409.stm
Pentagon: Key 9/11 suspects face judges at Gitmo
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/03/12/gitmo.hearings/index.html
Japanese passenger jet in dramatic emergency landing
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070313/1/47890.html
Russia warning pressures Iran over nuclear plant
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070312165838.vocezigu&show_article=1&catnum=2
Al Qaeda-Gaza declares war on both Palestinian rivals: Hamas and Fatah
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=3922
Major space missions move ahead
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6442827.stm
Libya 'may sign US nuclear deal'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6444831.stm
Trident sparks second resignation
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6445887.stm
Russia nuclear delay angers Iran
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6446163.stm
Report: ElBaradei unable to meet top N. Korea negotiator
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/03/14/nkorea.nuclear.talks.ap/index.html
Arrests over Lebanon bus bombings
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6448535.stm
What Has Tehran to Gain from Hizballah’s New Face?
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=article&aid=1260
N Korea 'yet to shut' nuclear site
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6448683.stm
Sea Launch Explosion Due To Engine Failure
http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Sea_Launch_Explosion_Due_To_Engine_Failure_999.htm l
Key 9/11 suspect confesses guilt
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6452573.stm
March 17, 2007 - next inspiralling key date on the 911 based Golden Mean Phi spiral related to the landfall of Katrina in New Orleans
2 Venus years after: December 24, 2005 - Pope Benedict XVI leads his first Christmas Midnight Mass as Pope, praying for peace in the Middle East.
Winter storm worries cancel hundreds of flights
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WEATHER/03/16/winter.storm/index.html
March 20, 2007 - Sharon.
108 Mercury Years after the awakenings starttriggerdate March 10, 1981 and 8 times 911 after ascension endtrigger date April 9, 1987. Both triggerdates are related to the Sabra and Shatila massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra-Shatila_massacre),Palestinean refugee camps in Beirut, Lebanon. Israeli Defense Minister at the time: Ariel Sharon. Exactly 5 Mercury Years in coma, hitting the Mercury Transit line of November 8, 2006 ( exactly 1.5 Mercury Years after the transit, or crossing the Transit Line on the other side of the Sun as at the time of the Mercury Transit.)

April 1-2, 2007 - Hyper Dimensional Octahedron
555 triggerevents:
September 24, 2005 - Hurricane Rita hits the U.S. Gulf Coast
September 24, 2005 - Worldwide protests occur against the Iraq War
UN Secretary Ban Ki-moon warns smuggling from Syria could threaten Lebanon ceasefire
Israeli military intelligence chief predicts Israel and the Iran-Hizballah-Syria bloc may be at war in summer
White House anger over Syria trip
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6512871.stm
US House speaker defies White House with Syria visit
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070403/1/47lsb.html
April 19 - May 1 annually recurring '13 satanic days' period
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about13-hddesign.html
Grail Resurrection Signals
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/grail-resurrection.htm
When the Wind Blows
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/wind-blows.htm
April 21/22 , 2007 - Hyper dimensional Tetrahedron, 911.522 after the start of the battle of Marathon ( started on Tetrahedron september 12, 490BC ) breaking the Code (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=3147&mforum=hddesign#3147)
Mercury at same position as during flight 522 crash in Marathon
keydate on the 'exit of sun king' timecoded pattern
Tetrahedron connection 9/11, nuclear theme - Syria. read post here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=3764&mforum=hddesign#3764
Venus related to Nagasaki triggerevent Hariri killing
Mercury in same position as during 555 awakenings endtrigger 9/11
The US president's men in dire straits
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070423/1/48006.html
Voting begins slowly for Syria's new parliament
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070422/1/47zr0.html
Hamas urges attacks on Israel
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/22/israel.palestinians.ap/index.html
Syria Goes To Polls; Opposition Calls It Farce
Syria is facing international isolation and the government is under pressure to set up an international tribunal to try the killers of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. Also, a U.N. investigation had implicated Syrian officials.
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7007119352
A large, high-ranking Syrian delegation of 40 generals on secret mission to Tehran
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4105
Greek jet makes emergency landing
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6583117.stm
nuclear theme
Gates meets Putin on missile sites
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/23/gates.russia.reut/index.html
Runner dies after London Marathon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6583677.stm
EU agrees Iran nuclear sanctions
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6582239.stm
Goro: And finally... [a 'Kamikaze' event]
4/21: Blue Angels jet crashes during air show
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/04/21/blueangels.crash/index.html
exit of 'Sun King':
Former Russian leader Yeltsin dead
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/04/23/russia.yeltsin.ap/index.html
Syria's Assad seeks to consolidate power
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=71336
Syria jails human rights activist
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6587229.stm
Ruling Syrian party wins election
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6596997.stm
On April 24 ( Asia time,still April 23 in US time and within the HD Tetrahedron timeframe / Dutch.), during a secure phone conversation for more than an hour, Olmert told Bush he had decided to check whether peace talks with Syria could be renewed and the US president apparently gave his go-ahead
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070608/1/493w2.html
May 2, 2007 - Golden Mean Phi based 'Srebrenica karma'. Washington.link (http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=1296&mforum=hddesign#1296).
3 Mars years in Earth days since 9/11, 3 Mars years in earth days prior to the end of the Mayan Calender
from Goro: Mayan Contact Midpoint, see update below.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali threathened in the US, heavy security/protection needed
Press review: 'Fall of the sun king'
http://www.cnn.com/2007/BUSINESS/05/02/browne.press/index.html
Obama placed under Secret Service protection
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/05/03/obama.protection/index.html
Melkert, Volkert, Wolfowitz, analysis will follow
May 3, 2007 - Sharon
3 Mars years in Earth days since 9/11, 3 Mars years in earth days prior to the end of the Mayan Calender
from Goro: Mayan Contact Midpoint, see update below.
Sharon and Bush are 'playing in the same script', 22 Mercury years since Bush chokes on a pretzel
May 4-10, 2007 - cross quarter day/period Beltane
May 9, 2007 - 3 Venus years in earth days since Deep Impact on temple I
May 17, 2007 - Hyper Dimensional Cube date
Lebanese PM Siniora takes fateful step of okaying international tribune to try suspects of Rafiq Hariri assassination
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4199
UN to mull move this week to create court to try Hariri murder
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070515/1/48klw.html
UN to consider creating Hariri murder court
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070515/1/48knz.html
Cabinet minister Ahmad Fatfat linked the clashes to efforts to derail UN moves to set up an international tribunal to try suspects in the 2005 assassination of Rafiq Hariri.
Fighting resumes in N. Lebanon Monday after 57 killed in Lebanese army battles with al Qaeda-linked Palestinians. Eight Lebanese soldiers taken hostage
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4211
Syria holds back full-scale war with Israel as last resort while its proxies win low-intensity conflicts in Lebanon and Gaza
Israeli ministers holding a cabinet session Wednesday, June 6, are divided over the mixed war and peace signals coming from Damascus. DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources report that Syrian ruler Bashar Assad’s war intentions and methods are easy enough to read in Lebanon and Gaza, where Damascus launched proxy offensives on the same day, May 15.
Iran and Syria are the winners of Hamas’ military coup against Fatah in Gaza Strip
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4299
May 22, 2007 - 1 Mars Year since Deep Impact
Ice Age blast 'ravaged America'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6676461.stm
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42952000/jpg/_42952177_comstrike_bbc_203.jpg
New Clovis-Age Comet Impact Theory
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/New_Clovis_Age_Comet_Impact_Theory_999.html
June 2, 2007 - Balkan Karma, keep an eye on Mladic, Karadzic, Seslj etc. and those politically responsible for the Srebrenica massacre
Friday June 1, 1:19 AM
War crime suspect, Mladic's closest ally arrested
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070531/1/48yby.html
Arrested Tolimir is third on the list, just after Mladic and Karadzic
'Mothers of Srebrenica' left Srebrenica on June 2 for a 40-hours bus ride to
Den Haag: The Netherlands charged for Srebrenica massacre!!!!
Srebrenica Relatives To Sue Netherlands, UN
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2007/06/9df8b3f2-a5ca-4780-8007-7a75bb6324d9.html
Srebrenica families sue Dutch state, U.N.
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL0437048320070604
Bosnia suspect attacks UN arrest
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6719741.stm
BBC: Netherlands sued over Srebrenica
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6721139.stm
Net tightens on fugitive Mladic
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6712903.stm
described element of Design: Mars at same position as during the 911 based 'control' triggerdate related to the Srebrenica massacre!
June 7, 2007 - Damageplan. 911 days after Dimebag Darrell was killed on stage. creating a Hyper Dimensional tetrahedron:
'Control' frame 911-events day-911: 1823 days.
Annular Solar Eclipse of 2002 June 10 - Damageplan - June 7, 2007
possible Space Shuttle Atlantis launch on June 8
Mercury 'The Messenger' will be on the same position as during the awakenings starttrigger of the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster
Mercury 'The Messenger' will be on the same position as during the ascension starttrigger of the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster!!!
Cuban TV shows Castro interview
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6725229.stm
( Castro's fall on stage in 2004 was an marker related to the exit of Arafat, see post in thread)
'Unstable' German tries to jump onto pope's open car
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070606/1/492c5.html
Iran evacuates thousands as cyclone strikes
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070606/1/492ju.html
June 07, '07 Atlantis STS-117 - Mission Phoenix
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/updates-07a.htm#060707
Don't forget, the space shuttle Atlantis about to go up to the space station 'Isis' (ISS) is an 'echo' of last summer's hurricane/storm Ernesto. It was an 'Atlantean storm' that 'intelligently' interacted with Cuba, Atlantis STS-115, and the Lexington plane crash (destination Atlanta) before 'docking' with Virginia (=> Mary = Isis/ISS).
Space Station Holed By Meteorite
http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Space_Station_Holed_By_Meteorite_Crew_Complete_EVA _To_Install_Debris_Shields_999.html
Atlantis orbiter set for launch
The mission will lay the groundwork - and the power lines - for Europe's Columbus module to join the orbiting platform later this year
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6732769.stm
Shuttle docking a 'go' despite gap in heat blanket
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/06/09/space.shuttle.ap/index.html
NASA Mulls Possible Spacewalk Repair for Shuttle's Torn Blanket
http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/070709_sts117_repaireva.html
Astronauts to repair shuttle's thermal blanket
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/06/11/space.shuttle.ap/index.html
'Shuttle Wing May Be Broken'
http://www.ecanadanow.com/news/technology/shuttle-wing-may-be-broken-20070612.html
Space station oxygen, water computers fail
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/06/14/space.shuttle.ap/index.html
MERCURY 'THE MESSENGER' at same geometrical position as during DEEP IMPACT
June 10, 2007 - EXACTLY 20 Mercury Years in Earth days after the 911 based starttrigger of the Hariri killing!
UN to vote on Hariri murder court
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6703587.stm
the court will come into force on 10 June.
UN approves Hariri murder court
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6703587.stm
ongoing 911 based pattern with next Venus Passage June 6, 2012
Mercury 'The Messenger' and Venus in same position as at end of Mayan calender
Second Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon, Ain Hilwa in the south, explodes in violence:
military sources report Syria has lined up an anti-Lebanese government front of Palestinian and Islamic radicals for an orchestrated campaign of violence to derail the UN Security Council resolution establishing an international tribunal for prosecuting the suspected murderers of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq Hariri.
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4271
Israel 'tests' Syria peace aims
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6737065.stm
Controversial Hariri court comes into force
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070610/1/494we.html
Syrian and Iranian Generals in Intensive War Consultations
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=article&aid=1279
UN concerned at arms crossing Lebanon-Syria border
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070612/1/4967h.html
The Security Council on Monday ( June 11 - Dutch) reiterated "deep concern" at mounting reports of "illegal movements of arms" across the Lebanese Syrian-border, amid fears of escalating strife
"a steady flow of weapons and armed elements across the border from Syria."
"The information from the government of Lebanon on trafficking of arms and militants across the Syrian-Lebanese border is disturbing"
Assassination of Abu Nidal and fresh clashes between Hamas and Fatah:
Just like 9/11 (September 11, 2001) and Madrid ( March 11, 2004) were connected by a hyper Dimensional tetrahedron: 911 days + events day, the Hariri killing on Hyper Dimensional Cube date February 14, 2005 was connected with another HD Cube date at macrolevel via an Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron: 911 days + events day is HD Cube date August 17, 2002 . On August 17, 2002 Mercury was on the same geometrical position of its orbit as on June 10, 2007 (+/- 1 day).
August 17, 2002 - June 11, 2007 = 1759 days
20 Mercury years in Earth days: 20 times 87.969 = 1759.3 days
The timeframe around August 17, 2002 is to be considered the 911 based 'control' starttriggerdate related to the Hariri killing
The related triggerevent during that timeframe would be the assassination of Abu Nidal on August 16, 2002 in Bagdad, opponent of Arafat's Fatah.
Abu Nidal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Nidal
The Palestinean conflict is part of the evolving war scenario. As a 'coincidence' fresh clashes between Hamas and Fatah emerged on the same anticipated timeframe around June 10, 2007
Fatah boycott after Gaza fighting
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6747207.stm
Palestinian fighting 'will burn all of us,' official says
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/12/gaza.violence/index.html
Gaza gun battles rage on unabated
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6747841.stm
Mercury 'The Messenger' at same position as during awakenings starttrigger date related to Arafat's death
Disturbing developments:
Lebanese lawmaker killed in Beirut blast
POSTED: 0621 GMT (1421 HKT), June 14, 2007
BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- A member of the Lebanese parliament died in a Beirut bomb blast Wednesday -- the latest anti-Syrian politician to be killed in the country.
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/13/beirut.blast/index.html
Bush links Syria to killing of Lebanese MP
Thursday June 14
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070614/1/497t8.html
Abbas warns of 'collapse'
POSTED: 0256 GMT (1056 HKT), June 13, 2007
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/13/gaza.fighting/index.html
June 16, 2007 - Ariel Sharon
June 19, 2007 - 3 venus years in Earth days since flight 522 crash
Mercury at same position as during Ratzinger chosen as Pope
Lebanese army battles militants on two fronts
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070618/1/49ajm.html
US-Israel talks on Palestinians
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6766551.stm
Death toll in Baghdad truck bombing rises to 87
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/20/iraq.main/index.html
June 25, 2007 - connected by HD Tetrahedron on a 911 based pattern with the December 26, 2004 9.3 earthquake, followed by a devastating Tsunami.
Flood chaos cripples South Asia
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6239808.stm
Hundreds flee over dam burst fear
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/south_yorkshire/6239782.stm
Floods force thousands from homes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6239828.stm
County 'recovering' from flooding
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/6248102.stm
Aid pleas after Pakistan cyclone
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6252588.stm
South Asia rains toll nears 500 amid protests
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070629/1/49ji5.html
July 2, 2007 - HD Octahedron/Tetrahedron Pole date, 1 Mars year after flight 522 crah
see timeline July - December 2007

Paulhoff
7th July 2007, 04:43 AM
All that time and writting to prove nothing.............. :rolleyes:

Paul

:) :) :)

Post what will happen for the next year before it happens then we'll talk.

Dutch
10th July 2007, 01:53 AM
keep an eye on the timeline

Dutch
10th July 2007, 01:54 AM
Besides the killing of Pim fortuyn an Theo van Gogh, there has been another high-profile killing in The Netherlands:
Louis Sévèke
Jean Louis Bernhard Sévèke (Venray, April 28, 1964 - Nijmegen, November 15, 2005) was a Dutch radical-left activist, journalist and writer. He was known for his legal action against the Police and the Dutch intelligence service.
On November 15, 2005 he was murdered, aged 41, in the town centre of Nijmegen. Since that time rumours of involvement of police or secret services have been abound. A year after the murder the police seemed to have made little headway. It has been suggested that the Dutch secret service (AIVD) had a 24/7 surveillance on Sévèke at the time of his murder; however, there were no signs of information coming from the secret service to the police.
On March 28, 2007 the public prosecutor on the case revealed that a 38-year old man from Rotterdam, named Martinus Hendrikus T. according to the Spanish police, had confessed to the murder. The murderer and victim knew each other from the squatting movement.[1] The following day, it was revealed that revenge might have been the motive for the murder.[2] Some people suggest that Sévèke suspected T to be an informant of the intelligence agency, and T. had "sworn revenge" in his diary for being removed from the squatting scene because of that suspicion. Sévèke's family denies that T. was removed from the scene but instead went away himself as a result of a discussion on taking money from housowners for leaving.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Seveke
Pim and Theo were killed 911 days apart, creating a hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron. These killings are part of the 911 based Golden Mean Phi spiral that has been and will be monitored in this thread.
'Guus' mentioned Seveke in relation with Fortuyn and van Gogh in the Dutch section of the HDDesign forum and as I considered his remark to be a synchronicity: I expected to find a correlation with this 911 based Design.
first thought unveiled the connection:
911 based starttriggerdate related to the killing of Pim Fortuyn on May 6, 2002: November 8, 1999
Louis Seveke was killed on November 15, 2005
from November 8, 1999 ( 911 triggerdate ) - November 15, 2005 ( Seveke killed) is 2199 days
Mercury The messenger is at exactly the same geometrical position:

25 x 87.969 = 2199,22 days.
911 / Tetrahedron is the base of the hidden, underlying Design; Mercury is The Messenger
related thread:
911 based Phi spiral in Dutch society
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about87-hddesign.html[url]

Dutch
10th July 2007, 04:38 AM
It can very well be that we are on the eve of developments that would make this Syria-first war scenario inevitable
Dont' forget we have a responsibility too when it comes to the 'magnitude' these underlying themes will materialize in our reality
a positive involvement will lessen the impact
keep an eye on the timeline and the Hariri/Syria situation
The Hariri Killing, Casus Belli WWIII ?
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about3-hddesign.html
2007 timeline July - December
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about260-hddesign.html