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Gord_in_Toronto
7th June 2007, 06:52 PM
But. What would Brian Wilson do? :mad:

Foster Zygote
7th June 2007, 07:05 PM
Was Muhammed an a-hole?
Or Zeus?
Or Jeff Beck?

Judging by some of the stories Jimmy Page told I'd have to go with yes for Beck. Sometimes gods are just d**ks.

RandFan
7th June 2007, 10:27 PM
DJJ,

I'm curious, is it wrong to fantasize about having sex with Jesus? Have you ever fantasized about having sex with Jesus? A three way with Jesus and another guy or girl? Do you think he has a large penis? Circumcised?

Taffer
8th June 2007, 01:14 AM
Calling Jesus an a-hole could only be possible on a board that has no rules and by a person who has no class.

I never call Jesus an a-hole, or suggest that it could only be possible on a board that has no rules and by a person who has no class. That would be impolite.

And yet the mob rages out of control.

Who told you that?

So be it. Your choices.

Er. OK I will try to be it.

The greatest circumcision is of the heart, so that your heart has sensitivities.

Who told you that?

For your hands are callous, your minds are callous and your hearts are definitely callous...

That could be considered an insult in some cultures.

...and in need of circumcision.

I do not understand that allusion.

Macoy
8th June 2007, 04:39 AM
DJJ,

I'm curious, is it wrong to fantasize about having sex with Jesus? Have you ever fantasized about having sex with Jesus? A three way with Jesus and another guy or girl? Do you think he has a large penis? Circumcised?

& would djj pleasure all of jesus' holes?

suncrafter
8th June 2007, 04:54 AM
HA!!

JonnyFive
8th June 2007, 05:41 AM
(The fact that the whole "Jesus is an a-hole" thing was a joke seems to have elluded DJJ, interestingly enough)

JimBenArm
8th June 2007, 10:01 AM
(The fact that the whole "Jesus is an a-hole" thing was a joke seems to have elluded DJJ, interestingly enough)
Aw, you know nothing gets by him!
Sharp as a tack, our DJJ is! Yessir!

calebprime
8th June 2007, 10:28 AM
Judging by some of the stories Jimmy Page told I'd have to go with yes for Beck. Sometimes gods are just d**ks.

yep. Miles lacked Emotional Intelligence. But all us wannabes were sad when he died, because we couldn't say "Maybe it's Miles" when the phone rang anymore.

now I think it's David Icke or Sprint when the phone rings.

for some reason, I'll tell my Wynton Marsalis story.

We were in Lennox, Mass. about 10 years ago.

Walk into the local Cajun restaurant. I see someone who I think is Bradford Marsalis.

cp: sweating and stinking of weed: "AREN'T YOU BRANFORD MARSALIS?!!!"
wm: "nuemwybtun"
cp: "I SAID, AREN'T YOU BRANFORD MARSALIS"
wm: "noisiadidimwnnstn"
cp: "WHAT?! Y'KNOW SOMETHING, YOU LOOK JUST LIKE BRANFORD!!!??"
wm: (looking around for help) "I'm Wynton."
cp: "Ohh, you look just like your less-talented brother!"
wm: "People have told me that. Pardon me if I don't get up."
cp: "Hey, your score for what the f**k wassat Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter was really great!"
wm: (looking unimpressed) "That was a long time ago."
cp: "Well, you're one of my heroes." (Partly true)

I always did know how to flatter people. cp, you old smoothy.

The_Fire
8th June 2007, 10:50 AM
*Catching up on thread*

Yaknow, I think I just found evidence against the existence of DJJ's god. He seems to have a problem with designing things.......After all, if being circumcised is such a great thing, why didn't he make it part of the design plans from the start?

And I still haven't been hit by lightning and are still enjoying sex with my better half despite being a non-christian Witch.....

JonnyFive
8th June 2007, 11:01 AM
Aw, you know nothing gets by him!
Sharp as a tack, our DJJ is! Yessir!

Which end of the tack? *rim shot*

I know, I know - I'm going straight to Hell for ad homs.

Foster Zygote
8th June 2007, 11:37 AM
Which end of the tack? *rim shot*

I know, I know - I'm going straight to Hell for ad homs.

That boy, I say that boy is about as sharp as a bowlin' ball!

joobz
8th June 2007, 12:29 PM
But. What would Brian Wilson do? :mad:
Lie around in bed. (book of nude females, Chapter:Gordon, Track 4)

jsfisher
8th June 2007, 04:09 PM
Davidjayjordan,

There's only one thing for you to say at this point. It is simply, just one word....

"Banana."


Go ahead: Just say it.

Gord_in_Toronto
8th June 2007, 05:32 PM
Davidjayjordan,

There's only one thing for you to say at this point. It is simply, just one word....

"Banana."


Go ahead: Just say it.

Walrus?

jsfisher
8th June 2007, 05:43 PM
Walrus?


'Walrus' was last week. This week, it's 'banana.'

You don't want to kill Jesus, do you?

Davidjayjordan
8th June 2007, 05:54 PM
Oh I am so glad DJJ is back, I have missed him. So, DJJ tell us, enlighten us, what else did Jesus create? Educate us poor misguided atheists.


K, he created everything, meaning nothing is a creation of your minds. Its impossible for Him to create nothing, but athiests create nothing over and over again, and yet think it is creative.

Davidjayjordan
8th June 2007, 05:57 PM
'Walrus' was last week. This week, it's 'banana.'

You don't want to kill Jesus, do you?

Asking someone if they want to kill Jesus, should be deemed uncivil and improper posting, we shall see if the moderators accept your 'You don't want to kill Jesus' posting.

Björn Toulouse
8th June 2007, 06:04 PM
K, he created everything, meaning nothing is a creation of your minds. Its impossible for Him to create nothing, but athiests create nothing over and over again, and yet think it is creative.


Example, please?

Davidjayjordan
8th June 2007, 06:04 PM
*Catching up on thread*

Yaknow, I think I just found evidence against the existence of DJJ's god. He seems to have a problem with designing things.......After all, if being circumcised is such a great thing, why didn't he make it part of the design plans from the start?

And I still haven't been hit by lightning and are still enjoying sex with my better half despite being a non-christian Witch.....

I get along with good witches and good warlocks even if they aren't Christian, and find some of them knowledgeable in some areas. They certainly are more civil than ********.

As for a design flaw in us not being perfect, well that's why we are HERE to become uncircumcised in heart, and soul.

Deu 10:16 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Deu/Deu010.html#16) Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.

Deu 30:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Deu/Deu030.html#6) And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.

Jer 4:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jer/Jer004.html#4) Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench [it], because of the evil of your doings.


Excellent point and question !!!!! EXCELLENT, as this appiles to both men and women !!!!!! Fantastic question and the answer leads to so many other integrated principles and truths. Isn't bible study amazing, and liberating and sexual.

JimBenArm
8th June 2007, 06:06 PM
Asking someone if they want to kill Jesus, should be deemed uncivil and improper posting, we shall see if the moderators accept your 'You don't want to kill Jesus' posting.
Why? Why do you want us to kill Jesus? You must want us to if you're reporting his post.
You are so cruel to do this to Baby Jesus!

jsfisher
8th June 2007, 06:07 PM
Asking someone if they want to kill Jesus, should be deemed uncivil and improper posting



The statement was "You don't want to kill Jesus, do you?" (Emphasis added.) But, either way, what would make the statement uncivil?

Davidjayjordan
8th June 2007, 06:07 PM
Of course everyone is just ranting and going mad, you keeping going away, and we are so eagerly waiting to hear from you. We need your knowledge. Such as WHY YOU CHANGED YOUR PROPHESY DATE?

Three new prophecy postings coming up. But that's for a different thread , this is about sex and Jesus.

The bride and the bridegroom

Hokulele
8th June 2007, 06:08 PM
Three new prophecy postings coming up. But that's for a different thread , this is about sex and Jesus.

The bride and the bridegroom


Yay! More false prophecies. I can't wait to see what you will get wrong this time.

Or have you already forgotten changing your end times dates and the whole Iran flapdoodle?

Davidjayjordan
8th June 2007, 06:09 PM
The statement was "You don't want to kill Jesus, do you?" (Emphasis added.) But, either way, what would make the statement uncivil?

Hinting at killing someone, puts ideas in the heads of the not to bright, and is easily deemed uncivil and improper, gross, rude, crude, vile or worse.

We'll see if it is allowed.

Björn Toulouse
8th June 2007, 06:09 PM
Asking someone if they want to kill Jesus, should be deemed uncivil and improper posting, we shall see if the moderators accept your 'You don't want to kill Jesus' posting.



How can one kill something that:

a. Was alive but is now dead already
b. Was alive but died and then resurrected in spiritual form and can't be killed again (Bible says so anyway)
c. Never existed in the first place

Do you really live on this planet?

Davidjayjordan
8th June 2007, 06:10 PM
Yay! More false prophecies. I can't wait to see what you will get wrong this time.

Or have you already forgotten changing your end times dates and the whole Iran flapdoodle?

as mentioned Iran will be attacked, and there will be almost WW3, before the Peace Covenant of Daniel settles the conflict in all areas... (for a shoprt time)

Now back to SEX and Jesus as that is the topic HERE not prophecy. Stick to the thread. Surely you have nmore queries about sex and power and union and Jesus

Björn Toulouse
8th June 2007, 06:13 PM
Three new prophecy postings coming up. But that's for a different thread , this is about sex and Jesus.

The bride and the bridegroom



Goody. Can't wait to see them. Hope you do better this time.

jsfisher
8th June 2007, 06:14 PM
Hinting at killing someone, puts ideas in the heads of the not to bright, and is easily deemed uncivil and improper, gross, rude, crude, vile or worse.

We'll see if it is allowed.


Sky Daddy said it was ok. However, since I was addressing you with the remark, I must admit I was insensitive to the possibility it might have put ideas into your head (for the reasons you, yourself, cited).

Hokulele
8th June 2007, 06:14 PM
as mentioned Iran will be attacked, and there will be almost WW3, before the Peace Covenant of Daniel settles the conflict in all areas... (for a shoprt time)


Well, you were wrong about that the last time. I doubt you will do better this time.

Now back to SEX and Jesus as that is the topic HERE not prophecy. Stick to the thread. Surely you have nmore queries about sex and power and union and Jesus


You brought it up, not me.

Björn Toulouse
8th June 2007, 06:15 PM
as mentioned Iran will be attacked, and there will be almost WW3, before the Peace Covenant of Daniel settles the conflict in all areas... (for a shoprt time)

Now back to SEX and Jesus as that is the topic HERE not prophecy. Stick to the thread. Surely you have nmore queries about sex and power and union and Jesus



Oh yeah, like nobody's ever attacked them before.

Hey - you brought it up, soothsayer - you stick to the thread! You even brought it up on the CT forum.

jsfisher
8th June 2007, 06:18 PM
Now back to SEX and Jesus as that is the topic HERE not prophecy. Stick to the thread. Surely you have nmore queries about sex and power and union and Jesus


See, now there's that hypocrisy thing again, Davidjayjordan. You mentioned first these new false prophecies you've added to your collection. Stop complaining that others comment on your post.

Lies, false prophecies, hypocrisy, arrogance...it's like driving another nail into the cross. Why do you hate Jesus?

Gord_in_Toronto
8th June 2007, 06:21 PM
'Walrus' was last week. This week, it's 'banana.'

You don't want to kill Jesus, do you?

Why, of course not! Just keep him away from my swine and fig trees. Oh, and tell him to postpone the Apocalypse for a week or two, I have to have a haircut first. :rolleyes:

Kochanski
8th June 2007, 06:37 PM
Excellent point and question !!!!! EXCELLENT, as this appiles to both men and women !!!!!! Fantastic question and the answer leads to so many other integrated principles and truths. Isn't bible study amazing, and liberating and sexual.

What point? What question? The only point I am seeing is the one on the top of your head.

You know, DJJ, this is all wearing very thin, you go on and on about wanting a discussion about Jesus creating sex, but have shown us nothing to support your position. You just keep saying discuss but don't tell us what makes you say Jesus created sex.

Bear in mind that the mustly old book written by men is NOT proof that Jesus created sex. I challenge you to say anything here that is NOT a quote from the bible, that is not a rehash of something you have posted on your site and that supports your view that Jesus created sex. Cause so far you got nothing.

Waiting still for some sort of information from you that will prompt an actual discussion, rather than an acute desire to post more pictures of kittens.

RandFan
8th June 2007, 08:19 PM
& would djj pleasure all of jesus' holes? That's a good question.

Another, what does jesus' face look like during orgasam?

RandFan
8th June 2007, 08:23 PM
K, he created everything, meaning nothing is a creation of your minds. jeebus created 3 ways? Cool.
Why did he put a recreation center in the middle of a sewer system?

bruto
8th June 2007, 08:45 PM
Well, you were wrong about that the last time. I doubt you will do better this time.




You brought it up, not me.

Speaking of sex, Jesus has a message just for you! Come up close so you can hear him whisper.....7269

If you dig my big wood, you gotta ditch the hood.

Hokulele
8th June 2007, 10:09 PM
Speaking of sex, Jesus has a message just for you!


Bruto is a very bad, bad person.

:D

Macoy
9th June 2007, 02:47 AM
That's a good question.

Another, what does jesus' face look like during orgasam?

No good asking djj, he wouldn't be able to see his face.

calebprime
9th June 2007, 04:09 AM
Davidjayjordan,

There's only one thing for you to say at this point. It is simply, just one word....

"Banana."


Go ahead: Just say it.


Banana.


I get along with good witches and good warlocks even if they aren't Christian, and find some of them knowledgeable in some areas. They certainly are more civil than ********.

As for a design flaw in us not being perfect, well that's why we are HERE to become uncircumcised in heart, and soul.

Deu 10:16 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Deu/Deu010.html#16) Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.

Deu 30:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Deu/Deu030.html#6) And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.

Jer 4:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jer/Jer004.html#4) Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench [it], because of the evil of your doings.


Excellent point and question !!!!! EXCELLENT, as this appiles to both men and women !!!!!! Fantastic question and the answer leads to so many other integrated principles and truths. Isn't bible study amazing, and liberating and sexual.

One minor logical flaw. You said "uncircumcised".

I'm one puzzled penus.

Hinting at killing someone, puts ideas in the heads of the not too bright, and is easily deemed uncivil and improper, gross, rude, crude, vile or worse.

We'll see if it is allowed.

Ok, I'm going to go literal on you. History of Christianity in five easy steps.

Sex created a man named Jesus. My best guess is he was a Jewish peasant, who had some followers and got crucified by the Romans. Probably one of those right pommy bastards who think the world is coming to an end. Problem is, all the experts disagree with each other.

Along comes Paul. An epileptic with ambition. Not at first a very nice guy. Later, also not so nice. But creative.

Then, many accounts, legends, sayings, and what-not of Jesus and others were collected and re-collected in perhaps a dozen, perhaps twenty "Gospels". Many were put together with a specific purpose--worship--or with a particular agenda.

Later, Constantine (a really, really sick murderer) converted to Christianity partly to get some advantage in battle, partly to please his nutty wife.

Then almost two thousand years of history happened.

The end.

Paulhoff
9th June 2007, 07:41 AM
So your so-called god makes a foreskin and then wants you to cut it off, your so-called god is one sick puppy.

Paul

:) :) :)

Makes sex and then wants to cut off part of it, sick sick sick.

Macoy
9th June 2007, 08:44 AM
So your so-called god makes a foreskin and then wants you to cut it off, your so-called god is one sick puppy.

Paul

:) :) :)

Makes sex and then wants to cut off part of it, sick sick sick.

Remember, jesus has the piece that passeth all understanding.

RandFan
9th June 2007, 09:18 AM
Hinting at killing someone, puts ideas in the heads of the not to bright...

We'll see if it is allowed.

Happy he that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the rock. --Psalm 137:9

Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately --Numbers 31:17

Perhaps it's time for people to stop reading the bible.

Darth Rotor
9th June 2007, 09:55 AM
Happy he that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the rock. --Psalm 137:9

Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately --Numbers 31:17

Perhaps it's time for people to stop reading the bible.

Why is that any worse than reading a history book about Tamerlane or the Crusades?

DR

RandFan
9th June 2007, 11:12 AM
Hi Darth,

Given the context of the discussion I'm not sure of your point. If we follow the logic of Djj to its conclusion then we should avoid anything that could possibly propigate killing. With that perspective in mind then your examples are appropriate additions. We should avoid them according to the logic of Djj.

Putting that aside for the moment, people are fond of saying that the bible is a source of morality. I reject this. The bible is at best moraly ambiguous and at worst a source of immoral proscriptions including murder, slavery, filicide, infanticide, xenophobia, etc..

And let me be clear here, I'm not saying that the book merely has stories about such concepts but that it proscribs acts, or, proscribs how one must engage in them.

The lord's prayer along with other Psalm chants are considerd divinely inspired. Yet they include such chants as glorifying infanticide.

Yes, Christ said that to harm a child was one of the worst crimes that could be commited. Yet this raises a question, why did it take christ to make killing children immoral? If god is the same yesterday, today and forever then killing children was immoral before Christ or it is moral today.

I know that I am particularly hard on Christians. Odd since I have been a defender of Christians for so long. I'm happy to live side by side with Christians however I think that to move forward it is important to let go of the idea that the bible is some kind of moral guide. It's isn't and it can't be. Humans already know what is moral nd immoral. They can see for themselves that Psalm 137:9 and Numbers 31:17 are morally reprehensible. Non Christians know that. There is no great mystery there.

joobz
9th June 2007, 11:16 AM
Hinting at killing someone, puts ideas in the heads of the not to bright, and is easily deemed uncivil and improper, gross, rude, crude, vile or worse.

We'll see if it is allowed.
It isn't nice to insinuate murder with such careless ease....

as mentioned Iran will be attacked, and there will be almost WW3,
So, why do you do it?

Again, you prove yourself a hypocrite.

Paulhoff
9th June 2007, 11:22 AM
Morality built on fear, is anything but morality.

Paul

:) :) :)

Foster Zygote
9th June 2007, 01:54 PM
as mentioned Iran will be attacked, and there will be almost WW3, before the Peace Covenant of Daniel settles the conflict in all areas... (for a shoprt time)
Given that you have already made at least one prophecy that was false I'm inclined to laugh off any others you might make. Unless you want to explain why you changed the dates on your end-times timeline...

Now back to SEX and Jesus as that is the topic HERE not prophecy. Stick to the thread. Surely you have nmore queries about sex and power and union and Jesus
Come on David, we all know that you are changing the subject because the issue of your failure as a prophet makes you uncomfortable. Many people have tried to engage you on this subject but you respond with the intellectual cowardice that you accuse others of. Ironic eh?

Davidjayjordan
9th June 2007, 07:33 PM
Oh yeah, like nobody's ever attacked them before.

Hey - you brought it up, soothsayer - you stick to the thread! You even brought it up on the CT forum.

Still monitoring the prophecies, Bjorn. You truly must be worried, but that is at least admirable in a sense.

So maybe I shall start a new integrated prophecy thread, about the Lord's COMING and confirmation I just found.

Confirming the Dec. 21, 2012 date for the start of the Great tribulation for His arrival three and a half years later on..... do the math, count the days, and you will get the same simple to calculate date.

But then again, every time I start a new thread, it gets deleted and I usually bet banned for posting it.

We shall see, did the moderators delte those nasty posts of killing and mass murdering, I can't find them.

got to fly.

Got to make progress, got to learn.

Most of you love not progressing and not learning and just wasting time, not I. Maybe that's why the Lord gives more.

Hokulele
9th June 2007, 07:35 PM
But then again, every time I start a new thread, it gets deleted and I usually bet banned for posting it.


Still lying.

Davidjayjordan
9th June 2007, 07:43 PM
The ability and pleasure of "tooting his own horn."

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SexySpiritualChristians/message/1461

Bjorn, the sneak, you obviously have snuck into our newsgroup under false pretense in your introduction and with your profile. Shame on you, for such decpetion, but then again, a little knowledge of sexuality can only help you.

Notice now, I and Trixie pegged the fictious writers of that swinging episode. The Lord gives wisdom and discernment and it proved true. You can hardly fool, someone who knows the Lord and listens to the Lord. The writer was trying to promote his new BOOK, so he and wife made up the supposed encounter.

Anyway Bjorn, DO NOT POST any of that material as it is private property and not for other boards as it is on a private newsgroup, and violators will be found out. And though moderators HERE let you go, those on yahoo would not. It would be a policy infringement a violation, etc.

You should have been honest, and we would have let you enter in without all your decpetions. What was your name again, what was your pen name, your fictious monicker, and fictious profile.

Darn atheists, they want knowledge but just don;t know how to honestly acquire it. Oh well, at least Bjorn under his made up name is getting an education, Bjorn there is about 1400 posts there, so you have a lot of work in catching up on principles.

jsfisher
9th June 2007, 07:46 PM
But then again, every time I start a new thread, it gets deleted and I usually bet banned for posting it.


Such bare-face lies, Davidjayjordan!!! Jesus is crying so loudly all of heaven echoes with his sobs.

Why do you hate Jesus, Davidjayjordan?? Why do you love Satan?


We shall see, did the moderators delte those nasty posts of killing and mass murdering, I can't find them.


Nope, the moderators don't delete any of your nasty posts, remember?

Björn Toulouse
9th June 2007, 07:47 PM
...got to fly...


Broom or carpet?

Kochanski
9th June 2007, 07:50 PM
DJJ, stop whining and get back on topic. And stop being such a coward and ignoring real questions that are asked.

Are you going to provide proof that Jesus created sex or do we need to go back to kitten pics?

Hmmm, well?

jsfisher
9th June 2007, 07:51 PM
DO NOT POST any of that material as it is private property and not for other boards as it is on a private newsgroup, and violators will be found out. And though moderators HERE let you go, those on yahoo would not. It would be a policy infringement a violation, etc.


Help me understand this. If I post this URL to a Yahoo discussion group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SexySpiritualChristians/message/1461) I am violating my agreement Yahoo? Just what agreement would that be?

Björn Toulouse
9th June 2007, 07:58 PM
Bjorn, the sneak, you obviously have snuck into our newsgroup under false pretense in your introduction and with your profile. Shame on you, for such decpetion, but then again, a little knowledge of sexuality can only help you.

Notice now, I and Trixie pegged the fictious writers of that swinging episode. The Lord gives wisdom and discernment and it proved true. You can hardly fool, someone who knows the Lord and listens to the Lord. The writer was trying to promote his new BOOK, so he and wife made up the supposed encounter.

Anyway Bjorn, DO NOT POST any of that material as it is private property and not for other boards as it is on a private newsgroup, and violators will be found out. And though moderators HERE let you go, those on yahoo would not. It would be a policy infringement a violation, etc.

You should have been honest, and we would have let you enter in without all your decpetions. What was your name again, what was your pen name, your fictious monicker, and fictious profile.

Darn atheists, they want knowledge but just don;t know how to honestly acquire it. Oh well, at least Bjorn under his made up name is getting an education, Bjorn there is about 1400 posts there, so you have a lot of work in catching up on principles.


Let me make something perfectly clear here, Mr. Know Everything-in Touch With God Weasel---I have never, ever, posted anything on your little sexy spiritual xian swinger site and never intend to. It's only your paranoid mind that makes you declare such stupid and idiotic accusations.

I read the site merely to get a laugh out of your pathetic useless life. Never have I posted anything on it.

Apologize to me now, prophet, or just go toot your own horn some more.

Hokulele
9th June 2007, 08:00 PM
:popcorn1

Civilized Worm
9th June 2007, 08:11 PM
Why is that any worse than reading a history book about Tamerlane or the Crusades?

DR


Find me a history book that tells you to be happy as you kill children.

RandFan
9th June 2007, 08:15 PM
Maybe that's why the Lord gives more.Gives more what? Head?

Kochanski
9th June 2007, 08:24 PM
Gives more what? Head?

Well he did have a second coming...

Gord_in_Toronto
9th June 2007, 08:36 PM
Well he did have a second coming...

Surely that's not true? He came about 2,000 years ago. And he hasn't come again since. DJJ is waiting for it to happen. :boggled:

jsfisher
9th June 2007, 08:41 PM
Surely that's not true? He came about 2,000 years ago. And he hasn't come again since. DJJ is waiting for it to happen. :boggled:


So the once omnipotent is now impotent?

Kochanski
9th June 2007, 08:46 PM
So the once omnipotent is now impotent?

Well he was supposedly resurrected, but I guess he needs some very strong Viagra now, 2000 years is a long time to go without one...

ReligionStudent
9th June 2007, 08:57 PM
Hi Darth,

Given the context of the discussion I'm not sure of your point. If we follow the logic of Djj to its conclusion then we should avoid anything that could possibly propigate killing. With that perspective in mind then your examples are appropriate additions. We should avoid them according to the logic of Djj.

Putting that aside for the moment, people are fond of saying that the bible is a source of morality. I reject this. The bible is at best moraly ambiguous and at worst a source of immoral proscriptions including murder, slavery, filicide, infanticide, xenophobia, etc..

And let me be clear here, I'm not saying that the book merely has stories about such concepts but that it proscribs acts, or, proscribs how one must engage in them.

The lord's prayer along with other Psalm chants are considerd divinely inspired. Yet they include such chants as glorifying infanticide.

Yes, Christ said that to harm a child was one of the worst crimes that could be commited. Yet this raises a question, why did it take christ to make killing children immoral? If god is the same yesterday, today and forever then killing children was immoral before Christ or it is moral today.

I know that I am particularly hard on Christians. Odd since I have been a defender of Christians for so long. I'm happy to live side by side with Christians however I think that to move forward it is important to let go of the idea that the bible is some kind of moral guide. It's isn't and it can't be. Humans already know what is moral nd immoral. They can see for themselves that Psalm 137:9 and Numbers 31:17 are morally reprehensible. Non Christians know that. There is no great mystery there.

It always amazed me that David is considered the greatest king, but he killed his friends and generals over petty things, (once to get it on with one of their wives), and completely replaced the Yahwist priests and generals with Jebusites (and selected a Jebusite capitol and selected a Jebusite holy site to worship YHWH), by having the Yahwists killed or exiled.

ReligionStudent
9th June 2007, 08:59 PM
Still monitoring the prophecies, Bjorn. You truly must be worried, but that is at least admirable in a sense.

So maybe I shall start a new integrated prophecy thread, about the Lord's COMING and confirmation I just found.

Confirming the Dec. 21, 2012 date for the start of the Great tribulation for His arrival three and a half years later on..... do the math, count the days, and you will get the same simple to calculate date.

But then again, every time I start a new thread, it gets deleted and I usually bet banned for posting it.

We shall see, did the moderators delte those nasty posts of killing and mass murdering, I can't find them.

got to fly.

Got to make progress, got to learn.

Most of you love not progressing and not learning and just wasting time, not I. Maybe that's why the Lord gives more.

Doesn't the bible say that you cannot know the time? (let alone that the entire idea of the second comming was likely an example of post hoc reasoning after the unexpected death of the annointed one).

Davidjayjordan
12th June 2007, 08:56 PM
It always amazed me that David is considered the greatest king, but he killed his friends and generals over petty things, (once to get it on with one of their wives), and completely replaced the Yahwist priests and generals with Jebusites (and selected a Jebusite capitol and selected a Jebusite holy site to worship YHWH), by having the Yahwists killed or exiled.

But King David learned from his mistakes unlike most people and unlike most people HERE. And from their suffering and then his own, he learned mercy and humility and better decision making.

But Alas, the false skeptics never learn anything and never progress and never come up with answers.

Hokulele
12th June 2007, 08:57 PM
But King David learned from his mistakes unlike most people and unlike most people HERE.


Certainly like the one who has the most posts in this thread.

The Great Hairy One
12th June 2007, 09:00 PM
Certainly like the one who has the most posts in this thread.


Don't look at me, I'm just driving past. :o

Cheers,
TGHO

Davidjayjordan
12th June 2007, 09:00 PM
Doesn't the bible say that you cannot know the time? (let alone that the entire idea of the second comming was likely an example of post hoc reasoning after the unexpected death of the annointed one).

Yes, that's a misconception from a false interpretation, as the whole bible even from Genesis is about the Lord's timing and prophecy. It shows his control and domination in HIS TIME.

And as the days of Noah were, so also shall the coming of the Lord. AND NOAH was warned and knew 120 years in advance, so maybe we should post those new prophecies as it says, the Book of daniel shall be revealed in the End Time...and it is sexual prophecy.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/SexandProphecy.html

Kochanski
12th June 2007, 09:04 PM
But Alas, the false skeptics never learn anything and never progress and never come up with answers.

Still waiting for yours.

Davidjayjordan
12th June 2007, 09:04 PM
Where has sneaky deceptive Bjorn gone, he joined our newsgroup under false pretenses.

So maybe he is in hiding from his antics, when we might have let him join without the charades.

Nevertheless, maybe I shall give you the latest, sexual prophecy concerning the Bridegroom and Bride.

I mean, most of you are so backward and complacent, you definitely need something to stir your emotions and brains to get into gear and into motion.

The truly sexual have to be in shape mentally and physically.

Hokulele
12th June 2007, 09:07 PM
I mean, most of you are so backward and complacent, you definitely need something to stir your emotions and brains to get into gear and into motion.


At least most of us have brains. Say, when are you going to set up some more Mad Libs again? At least those were something, well, creative. You have managed to repeat yourself for the past month. Other than the hissy fit regarding crucifixion that is.

bruto
12th June 2007, 09:23 PM
Yes, that's a misconception from a false interpretation, as the whole bible even from Genesis is about the Lord's timing and prophecy. It shows his control and domination in HIS TIME.

And as the days of Noah were, so also shall the coming of the Lord. AND NOAH was warned and knew 120 years in advance, so maybe we should post those new prophecies as it says, the Book of daniel shall be revealed in the End Time...and it is sexual prophecy.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/SexandProphecy.html

So when Jesus said "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only," he forgot to say...."and of course the amazing David Jay Jordan!"

Davidjayjordan
12th June 2007, 09:25 PM
At least most of us have brains. Say, when are you going to set up some more Mad Libs again? At least those were something, well, creative. You have managed to repeat yourself for the past month. Other than the hissy fit regarding crucifixion that is.

H. have you ever added any truth or any thing positive or ever claimed anything in your life. ?

Whin and complain is all I hear you ever do. Never the courage to stand up for anything.

Hokulele
12th June 2007, 09:30 PM
H. have you ever added any truth or any thing positive or ever claimed anything in your life. ?


Yup (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=2670792#post2670792).

Foster Zygote
12th June 2007, 09:31 PM
Yes, that's a misconception from a false interpretation, as the whole bible even from Genesis is about the Lord's timing and prophecy. It shows his control and domination in HIS TIME.

And as the days of Noah were, so also shall the coming of the Lord. AND NOAH was warned and knew 120 years in advance, so maybe we should post those new prophecies as it says, the Book of daniel shall be revealed in the End Time...and it is sexual prophecy.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/SexandProphecy.html

But you got your prophecy wrong. Why did you change the dates? That's a good DJJ, roll over and play dead. Good boy!

Davidjayjordan
12th June 2007, 09:32 PM
So when Jesus said "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only," he forgot to say...."and of course the amazing David Jay Jordan!"

Mistranslation to say the least as right afterward Jesus said ...as the days of Noah were... Bruto, you must learn principles not just one verse.

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For the earlier section, confirmed that Daniel was Jesus prophet, and daniel said, we ONLY would know who lived in the End Times...as Surely the Lord God will do nothing except reveal His secrets unto His servants the prophets..... not to the lamebrains and the false skeptics and the atheists. SEE verse 15, and 21 etc...

As for the day and hour, it distinctly says theree and a half days after our two prophets are killed, the Lord returns. EXACTLY....... I repeat, the day and hour is given specifically, so we shall know THEN, and even before.



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Hokulele
12th June 2007, 09:34 PM
Didn't DJJ use these exact same verses the last time he got things wrong? You know, that whole Iran sailor flapdoodle? Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Welcome to reality you false prophet you.

Davidjayjordan
12th June 2007, 09:36 PM
But you got your prophecy wrong. Why did you change the dates? That's a good DJJ, roll over and play dead. Good boy!

No I didn't get the prophecy wrong, I am learning more and more all the time. You guys and gals seem never to get any prophecy or anything right, as I quess you are hoping for instant overnight miraculous brains and intelligence and logic, that Mother Evolution might grant you, if you trust enough in her luck and chance philosophy of life.

SEE http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/ProphecyTimeLines.html

two new ones went IN, and another three or four are coming...

More confirmations, more confrimations, isn't the Lord amazing if we just tune in to HIM.

Davidjayjordan
12th June 2007, 09:37 PM
I quess like Elijah, it's rather fun to ridicule the false prophets and the heathen because they are so ludicrous and unstable and laughable....

Foster Zygote
12th June 2007, 09:40 PM
No I didn't get the prophecy wrong, I am learning more and more all the time. You guys and gals seem never to get any prophecy or anything right, as I quess you are hoping for instant overnight miraculous brains and intelligence and logic, that Mother Evolution might grant you, if you trust enough in her luck and chance philosophy of life.

SEE http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/ProphecyTimeLines.html

two new ones went IN, and another three or four are coming...

More confirmations, more confrimations, isn't the Lord amazing if we just tune in to HIM.

You quoted the Bible verse telling one how to recognize a false prophet. It said if someone predicts something that doesn't come to pass then that person is a false prophet. It didn't say "if it doesn't come to pass let them check their figures and try again". According to the verse that you yourself quoted you are a false prophet.

qayak
12th June 2007, 09:48 PM
No I didn't get the prophecy wrong, I am learning more and more all the time.

You cannot know the mind of god so no matter how hard you try to decipher the clues, you will always be wrong. You are indeed a false prophet.

dglas
13th June 2007, 01:23 AM
I quess like Elijah, it's rather fun to ridicule the false prophets and the heathen because they are so ludicrous and unstable and laughable....

It is actually saddening to watch as the world leaves behind the useless, parasitic prophet-wannabes spewing tired old, humanity-hating modes of non-thought on the world's way to a better tomorrow. No one wants to leave anyone behind, but what can you do? They've lost all touch with reality, lost in the childish egotism of their private little fantasy worlds. I guess we just mourn their passing and learn the lesson they cannot (or will not). The future awaits...

They are the past. We are the future. We've outgrown them.

Björn Toulouse
13th June 2007, 04:28 AM
Where has sneaky deceptive Bjorn gone, he joined our newsgroup under false pretenses.

So maybe he is in hiding from his antics, when we might have let him join without the charades....


Would you care to explain or defend this lie or are you too busy tooting your own horn?

JonnyFive
13th June 2007, 05:50 AM
No I didn't get the prophecy wrong, I am learning more and more all the time.

Oh, you weren't wrong. You just got additional information from God and revised your previous prediction completely, while somehow not being wrong.

You remind me of the Mormon church sometimes, DJJ.

You guys and gals seem never to get any prophecy or anything right,

I got something right back when you first came here and I called you a troll.

Gord_in_Toronto
13th June 2007, 06:36 AM
Where has sneaky deceptive Bjorn gone,

Maybe, like some of here, he has a life?

Or, maybe he died from laughter?

Keep it coming.


:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

bruto
13th June 2007, 08:03 AM
Mistranslation to say the least as right afterward Jesus said ...as the days of Noah were... Bruto, you must learn principles not just one verse.

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Mat 24:37 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Mat&chapter=24&verse=37&version=kjv#37)But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be


For the earlier section, confirmed that Daniel was Jesus prophet, and daniel said, we ONLY would know who lived in the End Times...as Surely the Lord God will do nothing except reveal His secrets unto His servants the prophets..... not to the lamebrains and the false skeptics and the atheists. SEE verse 15, and 21 etc...

As for the day and hour, it distinctly says theree and a half days after our two prophets are killed, the Lord returns. EXACTLY....... I repeat, the day and hour is given specifically, so we shall know THEN, and even before.



http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/k9.gif (http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Rev/11/11.html)http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/c9.gif (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/c.pl?book=Rev&chapter=11&verse=11&version=KJV#11)http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/l9.gif (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Rev&chapter=11&verse=11&version=KJV#11)
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I see nothing in the following verses which contradicts the first sentence. In the days of Noah, nobody expected the flood, except for Noah, and there's nothing in the text to suggest that he actually knew when it would occur until he got the seven day warning to load up the ark. Any other conclusion is in invention beyond the text. In fact, it could as easily be argued that the timing of the flood was contingent on Noah's construction of the ark, and could have varied had Noah encountered technical problems. All we're told is that God told Noah what to do, and Noah did it.

You can of course read the text any way you want, but I see no reason to assume that the passage in Matthew means anything but what it actually says, which is that you, and everyone else gut God himself, can never know when the end will come, and because of that, you'd better be ready now. It's better read as a warning not to dabble in prophecy and numerological bushwit and try to second-guess God, or to bet the odds on being able to get away with a few more years of sin before you buckle down for the second coming.

Miss Anthrope
13th June 2007, 08:23 AM
No I didn't get the prophecy wrong, I am learning more and more all the time.

Really, so prophecy works this way? It is not a revelation from any invisible diety, rather it is just something you're making up along the way?


You guys and gals seem never to get any prophecy or anything right,

I prophecy that in true narcissistic fashion, DJJ will insult the intellects of the people on this board rather than address facts.

as I quess you are hoping for instant overnight miraculous brains and intelligence and logic, that Mother Evolution might grant you, if you trust enough in her luck and chance philosophy of life.

WOW! Unlike DJJ, I am NOT a false prophet!


Is it possible for you to put away your ego, your contempt, and your arrogance long enough to actually have a meaningful discussion on the issues? Really, I'm asking with sincerity. Can you actually hold a rational discourse without attempting to insult those who disagree with you?

It would be great if you could pick just one topic, start a thread on it, and be a man. A man of dignity, of character, humility, and reason. Let your ideas and wisdom speak for themselves. If you cannot simply reasonably debate a topic without every single post requiring a slight to those who do not agree, then you're not being a man. You're being a spoiled child.

ReligionStudent
13th June 2007, 03:00 PM
But King David learned from his mistakes unlike most people and unlike most people HERE. And from their suffering and then his own, he learned mercy and humility and better decision making.

But Alas, the false skeptics never learn anything and never progress and never come up with answers.

David did not learn, he went to his grave making his son promise to kill his friends and advisors. That's just BS all the way.

ReligionStudent
13th June 2007, 03:02 PM
Yes, that's a misconception from a false interpretation, as the whole bible even from Genesis is about the Lord's timing and prophecy. It shows his control and domination in HIS TIME.

And as the days of Noah were, so also shall the coming of the Lord. AND NOAH was warned and knew 120 years in advance, so maybe we should post those new prophecies as it says, the Book of daniel shall be revealed in the End Time...and it is sexual prophecy.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/SexandProphecy.html

Um, nothing really pre-Assyrian is about this, and lets not forget that there are multiple times where the bible claims they day had come (Isaiah and Jeremiah for instance). So, not only does the bible say it is unknown, but that the time sit claims to have known, it was wrong.

strathmeyer
13th June 2007, 06:02 PM
No I didn't get the prophecy wrong, I am learning more and more all the time. You guys and gals seem never to get any prophecy or anything right, as I quess you are hoping for instant overnight miraculous brains and intelligence and logic, that Mother Evolution might grant you, if you trust enough in her luck and chance philosophy of life.

Nobody here has ever had an incorrect prophecy. 100%, baby. (I hope that my saying this doesn't jinx us!!!)

How come everybody who doesn't believe in evolution seems to have some incompetent idea of what evolution is? Or were you just claiming that Evolution is a god and is Jesus's wife? With the way you refuse to answer questions or participate in a discussion, I'll be left to wonder.

Paulhoff
13th June 2007, 06:59 PM
No I didn't get the prophecy wrong, I am learning more and more all the time. You guys and gals seem never to get any prophecy or anything right, as I quess you are hoping for instant overnight miraculous brains and intelligence and logic, that Mother Evolution might grant you, if you trust enough in her luck and chance philosophy of life.
Well Now (in a chicken-man announcer’s voice), “Doesn’t you’re so-called god say this about itself, that it didn’t just jumped into being all at once, that it Always Was, and not only that, it always was a Super-Duper-All-Knowing-All-Powerful-Being”. And we are supposed to believe that BS, and you say you have no problem with that, not very smart are you.

Paul

:) :) :)

Davidjayjordan
13th June 2007, 10:31 PM
You cannot know the mind of god so no matter how hard you try to decipher the clues, you will always be wrong. You are indeed a false prophet.

yes, you are a false prophet Gayak.

The Lord words and life show his mind, emotions and desires. Saying no one can know Him is an untruth, as knowing Jesus is knowing God. And that's as simple as a sincere prayer away..... or you can just read his mind via the gospels.

So yes, you are wrong, we can KNOW the Lord just as He knows us.

Jhn 15:15 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn015.html#15) Henceforth I (Jesus) call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

Jhn 6:63 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Jhn&chapter=6&verse=63&version=kjv#63)It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life.

His WORDS are spirit and LIFE.

Davidjayjordan
13th June 2007, 10:38 PM
Well Now (in a chicken-man announcer’s voice), “Doesn’t you’re so-called god say this about itself, that it didn’t just jumped into being all at once, that it Always Was, and not only that, it always was a Super-Duper-All-Knowing-All-Powerful-Being”. And we are supposed to believe that BS, and you say you have no problem with that, not very smart are you.

Paul

:) :) :)

Actually I am just of average intelligence, except that I am used to listening to the voice of the Lord, who is a teacher. I am not self absorbed and arrogant and full of myself and a know it all like most of you. I search for answers rather than thinking I can just whim about there being no truths.

So yes, I don't know it all, and have to go precept by precept in learning. The Lord shows people step by step rather than these great revelations instantlyu and over night. He is a good patient teacher, and yet most want instant intelligence without experiences and without the suffering and hard knocks it takes to entreench them into our pyche and being.

It takles a life time to gain wisdom not just knowledge.

So Yes, the Lord has taught me prophecy, step by step, understanding more and more each time. With each truth comes the possibility to find another truth.

You guys and gals should take the first step, rather than complain about a full time missionary that just might have had the experiences and heart so that the Lord could have shown him more than yourselves that admit that you know nothing and believe nothing and claim to know nothing.

RandFan
13th June 2007, 10:50 PM
Actually I am just of average intelligence, except that I am used to listening to the voice of the Lord, who is a teacher. Who taught that women are unclean during their menstrual cycle and to kill other people including women and children.

BTW, I do not claim to know nothing. That's jut the typical arrogant BS of many Christians.

I study science and philosophy which has done far more human kind than ancient superstition ever has.

I've read the bible cover to cover. It's full of misogyny, infanticide, filicide and murder. And these are all acts proscribed by the invisible sky daddy.

Keep it. I choose reason.

strathmeyer
13th June 2007, 11:12 PM
You guys and gals should take the first step, rather than complain about a full time missionary that just might have had the experiences and heart so that the Lord could have shown him more than yourselves that admit that you know nothing and believe nothing and claim to know nothing.

What is the first step? We can't magically know what goes on inside of your head and thus cannot know what this magical fist step is unless you explain it to us, talk to us, have a discussion with us, or answer our questions. Why can't you write a coherent sentence?

slingblade
13th June 2007, 11:31 PM
Actually I am just of average intelligence, except that I am used to listening to the voice of the Lord, who is a teacher. I am not self absorbed and arrogant and full of myself and a know it all like most of you. I search for answers rather than thinking I can just whim about there being no truths.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_56044670e0c735d5e.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=6359)

Paulhoff
14th June 2007, 06:24 AM
Actually I am just of average intelligence, except that I am used to listening to the voice of the Lord, who is a teacher. I am not self absorbed and arrogant and full of myself and a know it all like most of you. I search for answers rather than thinking I can just whim about there being no truths.
Average intelligence, no, when it comes to reality yours is below average. Listening to something that isn't, like your so-called god, is not a very good sign of intelligence, it is only a sign of you being self-delusional. You are absorbed, arrogant and full of yourself, you have shown that time and time again with you miss use of numbers just for one example. There are plenty of truths and main one with you is that there is no small minded, self-centered, blood thirsty, so-called god like yours.

Paul

:) :) :)

Foster Zygote
14th June 2007, 06:56 AM
I search for answers...

I'm not even going to bother with trying to get Djj to acknowledge all the facts that he ignores simply because he would have to admit to being wrong about something (many things, actually). By this point he knows that the moon is not 216,000 miles away as his magic-math erroneously claims. He's even given up trying to claim that it's actually the "barrycenter" or Lagrange point that he's talking about. I'm intrigued by the way he can ignore facts that everyone else can plainly see and tell bold lies that everyone else can clearly see to be lies. It almost seems sociopathic, like we really aren't here to him.

Davidjayjordan
14th June 2007, 07:32 AM
What is the first step? We can't magically know what goes on inside of your head and thus cannot know what this magical fist step is unless you explain it to us, talk to us, have a discussion with us, or answer our questions. Why can't you write a coherent sentence?

Insanity is when you guys and gals can NOT connect up reality to truths and make sense of anything. This because false skeptics deny answers and only pretend to want answers and connections.

To be coherrant, you have to get a solid foundation mentally. This takes time and it is step by step.

Your first step is acknowledging someone greater than you.

As you obviously aren't the GREAT ONES, as you are unstable and undiscerning having established no truths. Negativity and doubt and your 'Vacuum' is not enough to inspire you to greater heights only greater depths.

Hokulele
14th June 2007, 07:34 AM
No, we only deny your answers, because they are either lies, wrong, or simply do not make any sense.

Davidjayjordan
14th June 2007, 07:34 AM
So the once omnipotent is now impotent?

ONLY the Lord is omnipotent, and for us mere humans to be potent, we have to acknowledge that someone is greater than ourselves.

Have I not told this before ?

Oh Yea, many times, many ways, and yet you think you are the GREAT ONES in your mob mentality.

Hokulele
14th June 2007, 07:37 AM
ONLY the Lord is omnipotent, and for us mere humans to be potent, we have to acknowledge that someone is greater than ourselves.

Have I not told this before ?

Oh Yea, many times, many ways, and yet you think you are the GREAT ONES in your mob mentality.


I really, really, really, really, really cannot imagine DJJ admitting anything is greater than his own ego. Really.

JonnyFive
14th June 2007, 07:39 AM
As you obviously aren't the GREAT ONES, as you are unstable and undiscerning having established no truths. Negativity and doubt and your 'Vacuum' is not enough to inspire you to greater heights only greater depths.

You're right, Davidjayjordan. You're always Davidjayjordan.

After all, these are the GREAT ONES (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Old_Ones).

Björn Toulouse
14th June 2007, 07:40 AM
Insanity is when you guys and gals can NOT connect up reality to truths and make sense of anything.....




That's a description of yourself, FP.

Paulhoff
14th June 2007, 07:42 AM
ONLY the Lord is omnipotent, and for us mere humans to be potent, we have to acknowledge that someone is greater than ourselves.
There is no lord that you talk about, and we do acknowledge someTHINGS that are greater then ourselves, elephants, trees, moons, planets, stars, galaxies, galaxy super clusters, and the universe.

Paul

:) :) :)

And no way your simple minded so-called god.

Paulhoff
14th June 2007, 08:21 AM
Oh well, DJJ is gone. :o

Paul

:) :) :)

ReligionStudent
14th June 2007, 08:36 AM
Actually I am just of average intelligence, except that I am used to listening to the voice of the Lord, who is a teacher. I am not self absorbed and arrogant and full of myself and a know it all like most of you. I search for answers rather than thinking I can just whim about there being no truths.

So yes, I don't know it all, and have to go precept by precept in learning. The Lord shows people step by step rather than these great revelations instantlyu and over night. He is a good patient teacher, and yet most want instant intelligence without experiences and without the suffering and hard knocks it takes to entreench them into our pyche and being.

It takles a life time to gain wisdom not just knowledge.

So Yes, the Lord has taught me prophecy, step by step, understanding more and more each time. With each truth comes the possibility to find another truth.

You guys and gals should take the first step, rather than complain about a full time missionary that just might have had the experiences and heart so that the Lord could have shown him more than yourselves that admit that you know nothing and believe nothing and claim to know nothing.

Is this like the other education you stated that we asked about but you never responded on, your BS BSc

strathmeyer
14th June 2007, 08:44 AM
Insanity is when you guys and gals can NOT connect up reality to truths and make sense of anything. This because false skeptics deny answers and only pretend to want answers and connections.

To be coherrant, you have to get a solid foundation mentally. This takes time and it is step by step.

Your first step is acknowledging someone greater than you.

As you obviously aren't the GREAT ONES, as you are unstable and undiscerning having established no truths. Negativity and doubt and your 'Vacuum' is not enough to inspire you to greater heights only greater depths.

Nobody here has ever claimed there aren't people greater than themself, David. Who are the great ones? How can we differentiate them from the normal ones?

You reply doesn't answer any of my questions. The only conclusion I can draw from you being unable to back up your statements is that they are all untrue.

strathmeyer
14th June 2007, 09:01 AM
Shoot, this was the best* thread in ages, and Darat had to go and ruin it for everybody.

* for certain values of best.

ReligionStudent
14th June 2007, 03:11 PM
Shoot, this was the best* thread in ages, and Darat had to go and ruin it for everybody.

* for certain values of best.

What happened?

Paulhoff
14th June 2007, 03:17 PM
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=2689913#post2689913

DJJ go Bye-bye.

Paul

:) :) :)

jsfisher
14th June 2007, 05:06 PM
I suppose there are parallels we could draw between Davidjayjordan and Christophera. (For those of you that somehow managed to miss his thread to end all threads, he had a firmly held theory the World Trade Center towers had a 17-foot thick core of concrete.)

I prefer to notice the differences.

I think Chris was completely noble in his belief, no matter how delusional. I have to respect him for that. Dave, on the other hand, was completely wrapped in himself with no higher purpose whatsoever. Dave would be more fun at parties, and so I will miss him.

Björn Toulouse
14th June 2007, 06:19 PM
DJJ was building up to his latest "prophecies" that he mentioned in this thread, the "true skeptics" thread, and the "dangerous church" thread - something like 3 new prophecies that Big G had given him. I really wanted to see them.

Since he has this sex hang-up, I'm sure that any "prophesus interruptus" is also a bringdown to him, so I'm sure he'll be boasting these new predictions somewhere on the web and we should be able to access them.

jsfisher
14th June 2007, 06:20 PM
Since he has this sex hang-up, I'm sure that any "prophesus interruptus" is also a bringdown to him, so I'm sure he'll be boasting these new predictions somewhere on the web and we should be able to access them.


I will be scanning the interweb daily for new DJJ sightings.

RandFan
14th June 2007, 07:40 PM
Your first step is acknowledging someone greater than you.Zeus? Mithras?

As you obviously aren't the GREAT ONES, as you are unstable and undiscerning having established no truths. Negativity and doubt and your 'Vacuum' is not enough to inspire you to greater heights only greater depths.No, I'm not a great one.

fdVucvo-kDU

Gord_in_Toronto
14th June 2007, 07:41 PM
Oh. B*gger it. Now he will spend his time bothering people elsewhere. At least here he did not appear to make many converts. :mad:

ReligionStudent
15th June 2007, 06:34 AM
I would not be suprised if he gets a new name and comes back at some point.

JonnyFive
15th June 2007, 06:39 AM
I would not be suprised if he gets a new name and comes back at some point.

Anyone that uses semi-colons as apostrophes and says "study the math" a lot will be banned on sight. :)

RandFan
15th June 2007, 06:56 AM
I'm against banning but I have to say, DJJ was pointless. He would not discuss or debate. I can't say that I'm upset.

Paulhoff
15th June 2007, 07:07 AM
I would not be suprised if he gets a new name and comes back at some point.
He would just have to put in a link to his site, and that would give him away.

Paul

:) :) :)