Jesus created Sex

[Davidjayjordan]

Seeing this board has sexual topics on it, allow me to suggest to true seekers and true skeptics that Jesus created sex.

I should be able to post this on the Science Board as creation is easy to show by creation itself, but let me post it HERE...as evolutionists control that board and it would be just moved here anyway.

Once you realize that Jesus himself created sex, then your whole attitude
about the most pleasurable experience in life should change. For it is not evil
but good. Sex didn’t come about by accident or evolutionary mutationsbut by
design. Evolution didn’t create sex, nor did the Devil who tries to take the credit
for it, but theKing of Kings, Jesus created Sex.

He is the Creator, who did you think was ? SEE Jesus is the Creator (http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Jesusisthecreator.html). He and the Father and the Eternal Spirit are One and the same. And He as, He said has been around from the beginning when He created all things.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us

Who dwelt among us and was the Living WORD that created the Universe and everything within it including us / Jesus !! Now you are catching it, as we are Made in His Image (http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/MadeinHisImage.html). And just as He is sexy, so are we !!

Sex was and is part of the Great Design by the Great Designer. (SEE Creation not Evolution Board (http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/CreationversusEvolution.html)) Matter of fact, His first commandment to his first couple was ‘Be fruitful and multiply’ in Genesis 1:28. What does that mean, ? ‘Have sex, make love and make children’ and they obeyed his natural normal commandment via His God-given hormones and we are the result of their obedience.

The sin of Adam and Eve (http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/AdamandEve.html)had absolutely nothing to do with sex. They disobeyed andate of the tree of good and evil when they were told not to. The dam devil convinced Eve that the Lord had lied to her and enticed her to eat evil when she and Adam had all the good fruit in the world to eat, including a healthy happy sex life. The fruit wasn’t sex, it was evil knowledge like the fallen angels brought to earth a little while later. So who told Adam and Eve that they were naked and should be embarassed. it wasn't the Lord

Genesis 3:7-11 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked?

So who told them, they were naked, the dam Devil and not the Lord, for after that they tried to cover up themselves with fig leaves, but it didn't work. Therefore don't let the dam devil deceive you as well, or tell you that he created sex, when he didn;t. Nor let him tell you that you have to join his side to enjoy sex, because that also is a lie. The dam devil didn’t create sex and nor entice Adam and Eve with sex in the garden. They already had it and were experiencing it. Sex is not the original sin, where in hell did that perverted idea come from. Sex is from heaven and is holy and sacred when done with a pure heart. But when the devil tries to steal it, he convinces people that it is dirty and vile, and so to partake of it, people have to side with him.

The devil has not created anything. He doesn’t have that kind of power. He can’t create anything. He is a liar and a deceiver and nothing more. He didn’t create himself nor his demons. All things were made by the Lord of Lords and there is nothing that is, that wasn’t made by Him. Even the dark side isjust being used by the Lord in their fallen state to provide a darkened backdrop and alternative choice for people. They have nothing and will be removed when their usefulness is no more. They can;t come up with anything new or exciting, as they are mere copycats and theivess.

The serpent would love to take credit for sex, but can’t. It’s too amazing, too beautiful, too miraculous and empowering and too pleasurable. It is too unifying !!! And the evil One is against people getting together as One. He hates union and only likes separation and division, for in this way, does he hope to conquer.

But we should know better and study better, so we can live better. We don't have to believe that the devil is the creator of sex, we can know the truth and enjoy the truth. For when Jesus said "Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free' that meant in all areas of your life and not just one or two. So can we know sexual freedom if our hearts are right ? Yes, despite the fact that the devils people try to do the same.

For there is nothing wrong with healthy clean sex and creating children (as long as we take care of them). And there is nothing wrong with pleasure. For does not his Word say ‘Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.' Ppsalms 16: 11). And so with sexual pleasure, as Jesus (http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Jesus.html) is the Creator of Sex.

Don't you agree?

David

(From http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/JesusCreatedSex.html )

[Lonewulf]

What. The. Frak?

Is this site a joke? It has to be. "Just as He is sexy, so are we." LOL!

[Lisa Simpson]

I didn't read much of it. But tell me, does he mention how all those other people came into existence before sex was created? As I recall, there was lots and lots of begatting in the OT.

[Lonewulf]

I still like this "God is sexy" comment. What's sex with God feel like?

Or is that breaking rules? :D

[Lisa Simpson]

I don't recall Mary complaining about god's technique in the Bible, but back then, she was probably supposed to close her eyes and think of Jerusalem.

[Lonewulf]

Oooh, that's right. Though it doesn't go into much detail. For all I know, she didn't feel a thing. Wouldn't that suck? Sex with God but not feeling a darn thing?

Also, did God pay child support? Or did he leave Joseph to pay for his own kid, the cad?

[Lisa Simpson]

Oh, I seriously doubt god paid child support. This is a dad who let his own kid be crucified. Why bother with child support?

[Region Rat]

And just as He is sexy, so are we !!Who's WE? Have you ever seen Larry the Cable Guy?

[Lonewulf]

I can imagine God telling Jesus that. "Listen, son... you're descended from a race that is guilty of great sin, thanks to your great great great great great....

(...)

...great grand-father, Adam.

As a result, all of humanity is guilty. But, to step in for their sins, I've selected you, son! All you have to do is endure a ton of torture before you die, and then I'll change my mind and not be so judgemental. Isn't that great, son?"

[Zygar]

I don't recall Mary complaining about god's technique in the Bible, but back then, she was probably supposed to close her eyes and think of Jerusalem.

I thought this was a misunderstanding of Mormon beliefs, not a standard protestant doctrine.

[Davidjayjordan]

I didn't read much of it. But tell me, does he mention how all those other people came into existence before sex was created? As I recall, there was lots and lots of begatting in the OT.

Jesus was God, Lisa for as he said, He was before Abraham was, and was from the BEGINNING.


Jhn 8:58 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn008.html#58) Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

See also Jesus was God

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/JesusisGod.html

[Lisa Simpson]

So Jesus is his own dad?

[Davidjayjordan]

I don't recall Mary complaining about god's technique in the Bible, but back then, she was probably supposed to close her eyes and think of Jerusalem.

Good INsight Lisa, as Mary was overshadowed and experienced women know what being overshadowed means.

The Bible uses delicate language, but you can discern these things if in the Spirit or you research it. Good point..

[Davidjayjordan]

So Jesus is his own dad?

Three are ONE, hows that for unity and harmony.

Its called the Trinity, but it almost beyond our comprehension, even though we can understand how water can be in different forms, solid, gas, and water. So maybe that is as close we can come to understanding this basic principle.


Jhn 10:30 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn010.html#30) I and [my] Father are one.

Jhn 17:11 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn017.html#11) And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we [are].

[Tricky]

The devil has not created anything. He doesn’t have that kind of power. He can’t create anything. He is a liar and a deceiver and nothing more.
So that would mean that evil is God's doing. I suspected as much.

[Lisa Simpson]

If Jesus = God and God overshadowed Mary, therefore Jesus overshadowed Mary, therefore Jesus is a mother******. Christianity is fun. And dirty. But fun!

[Lonewulf]

Three are ONE, hows that for unity and harmony.

Aryan Heresy. :D

Its called the Trinity, but it almost beyond our comprehension, even though we can understand how water can be in different forms, solid, gas, and water. So maybe that is as close we can come to understanding this basic principle.

It's not beyond our comprehension. It's a silly bedtime story. I can comprehend most silly bedtime stories.

The part I can't comprehend are those that believe them.

[Terry]

If Jesus = God and God overshadowed Mary, therefore Jesus overshadowed Mary, therefore Jesus is a mother******. Christianity is fun. And dirty. But fun!

At least it keeps it in the family.

[Lonewulf]

If Jesus = God and God overshadowed Mary, therefore Jesus overshadowed Mary, therefore Jesus is a mother******. Christianity is fun. And dirty. But fun!

So...

God killed his own kid. He had sex with his own mother. Hmm...

And Jesus spent inordinate amounts of time with nubile young males the same age as him in the middle of nowhere.

Let me think about this a bit.

[Davidjayjordan]

I thought this was a misunderstanding of Mormon beliefs, not a standard protestant doctrine.

Zygar, labeling doctrines won;t help you dioscern doctrines or truths, each principle has to be discerned individually. as believe it or not different groups can get some things right... but it is very very unlikely that any one group would get it all right,. especially when they have become ONE with the world and formed into a worldly system..... but the choices are yours, and it hardly helps to think in terms of even Mormons and Protestants, etc.

Go to the source and figure things out for yourself.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/WehavetoChoose.html

[Orangutan]

For there is nothing wrong with healthy clean sex

Is Bondage ok?
What about Furrys?

[SezMe]

I don't recall Mary complaining about god's technique in the Bible, but back then, she was probably supposed to close her eyes and think of Jerusalem.

Good INsight Lisa, as Mary was overshadowed and experienced women know what being overshadowed means.

The Bible uses delicate language, but you can discern these things if in the Spirit or you research it. Good point..
Never, ever have I seen somebody miss the sarcasm in a post as badly as DJJ did with this one.

[Lisa Simpson]

So...

God killed his own kid. He had sex with his own mother. Hmm...

And Jesus spent inordinate amounts of time with nubile young males the same age as him in the middle of nowhere.

Let me think about this a bit.

Apparently God is Jesus. Therefore, God didn't kill his son, Jesus killed himself. Some 33 years after he had sex with his own mother. The guy had issues.

[Lonewulf]

Zygar, labeling doctrines won;t help you dioscern doctrines or truths, each principle has to be discerned individually. as believe it or not different groups can get some things right... but it is very very unlikely that any one group would get it all right,. especially when they have become ONE with the world and formed into a worldly system..... but the choices are yours, and it hardly helps to think in terms of even Mormons and Protestants, etc.

Go to the source and figure things out for yourself.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/WehavetoChoose.html

Okay, so if all sources should be considered, what do you think of the native Australian tribes' beliefs? Or the Native American tribes' beliefs? Native Canadians? The Aztecs! The Mayans!

Where does Zeus play? Or Odin?

[Lonewulf]

Apparently God is Jesus. Therefore, God didn't kill his son, Jesus killed himself. Some 33 years after he had sex with his own mother. The guy had issues.

Ah, suicide makes it a bit more acceptable though. I'm more okay with suicide.

But... he should be, by most religous accounts, sent to hell for suicide! Hmm.

[Davidjayjordan]

So that would mean that evil is God's doing. I suspected as much.


Isa 45:7 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa045.html#7) I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].

Yes, evil has its place as it gives people an alternative in their choices...

But YES, the dam devil was created by the Lord. he didn't creat himself but was a mere creation. Just as you are created, and Jesus created sex, he created evil, so you could have CHOICE Tricky.

But He is not tricky

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Godisnottricky.html

[Taffer]

Don't you agree?

Nope. You have failed to convince me. Of course, you wouldn't be convinced either if you had any understand of biology.

[Lisa Simpson]

Ah, suicide makes it a bit more acceptable though. I'm more okay with suicide.

But... he should be, by most religous accounts, sent to hell for suicide! Hmm.

I thought Jesus went to hell during the three days post-Cruifiction?

[Davidjayjordan]

Ah, suicide makes it a bit more acceptable though. I'm more okay with suicide.

But... he should be, by most religous accounts, sent to hell for suicide! Hmm.

I opposed suicide and so does the Lord, because while there is life there is hope. But because the world is so hard and cruel and lonely many do commit suicide unfortunately. Are you helping them Lone wolf, for on the Conspiracy Board, I don;t recall you saying my efforts to stop suicide were honourable.

So would you now accuse the Lord for giving up his life for others.... as suicide.

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So do watch out for your accussations, you can definitely accuse the false church for not helping MORE those that are alone, and accuse the false church for other atrocious crimes, just watch that you don;t blame the Lord. Thanks

[Davidjayjordan]

I thought Jesus went to hell during the three days post-Cruifiction?

Again rather INsightful Lisa...

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[Kochanski]

Seems to me that the Greek gods were a lot more interesting and imaginative.

And Zeus seems much more likely to have created sex since he seems to have done it with lots and lots of goddesses and mortals and populated much of Olympus and lots of mortal lands, too.

[cyborg]

But He is not tricky

Tricky is not God?

Oh, he will be disappointed.

[Davidjayjordan]

Nope. You have failed to convince me. Of course, you wouldn't be convinced either if you had any understand of biology.

I don't have to convince you of anything, creation and sex itself is its own proof.

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Prove things to yourself and quite trying to blame others for yuor lack of discernment. As creation and sex is a wtiness against you if you think they don;t prove design and pleasure and reproduction and creation.

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[Davidjayjordan]

Seems to me that the Greek gods were a lot more interesting and imaginative.

And Zeus seems much more likely to have created sex since he seems to have done it with lots and lots of goddesses and mortals and populated much of Olympus and lots of mortal lands, too.

Nah... they had no power and were mere foreshadowings of the true...

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/GodsandGodessesEquality.html

[Zygar]

Zygar, labeling doctrines won;t help you dioscern doctrines or truths, each principle has to be discerned individually. as believe it or not different groups can get some things right... but it is very very unlikely that any one group would get it all right,. especially when they have become ONE with the world and formed into a worldly system..... but the choices are yours, and it hardly helps to think in terms of even Mormons and Protestants, etc.

Go to the source and figure things out for yourself.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/WehavetoChoose.html

I only asked because the Mormons get a lot of flack for this belief from fellow protestants. Basically, I was just trying to clarify the point. I now understand that it is not a uniquely Mormon belief.

Not that it makes any difference. Your statements seem to be mostly based around quote mining from the bible. Taken as a whole, you can clearly see the conflicts with what you are trying to say.

For example, for Jesus to be the One God, that would mean that there would a clear delineation between the moment he was God giving his seed to Mary, and the moment he became Jesus. At what moment was he no longer having sex with Mary, but instead just a baby inside of Mary? Also, he would no longer be able to act as the overseeing God while being Jesus, since he was clearly confined to the physical body of Jesus.

I see no way that the belief that he was the One God jives with your beliefs. It requires the trinity to be distinct beings.

[Davidjayjordan]

Tricky is not God?

Oh, he will be disappointed.

As mentioned Cybord, watch what you say...

Mat 12:37 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat012.html#37) For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

It would be much safer for you to be foolish elsewhere...

[Taffer]

I don't have to convince you of anything, creation and sex itself is its own proof.

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Rom 1:22 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Rom&chapter=1&verse=22&version=kjv#22)Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Prove things to yourself and quite trying to blame others for yuor lack of discernment. As creation and sex is a wtiness against you if you think they don;t prove design and pleasure and reproduction and creation.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Proveit.html

I'm sorry, DJJ, but you obviously are trying to convince us. You are just doing a very poor job. We would like some evidence other then scripture. Or perhaps you would like to provide us with evidence that we should trust what the bible says?

[Lisa Simpson]

Is Bondage ok?

Um...if The Passion of the Christ is even remotely accurate, then Jesus was way into bondage.

What about Furrys?

I don't know about Furrys. I'll have to check out an online bible.

[Lonewulf]

I opposed suicide and so does the Lord, because while there is life there is hope. But because the world is so hard and cruel and lonely many do commit suicide unfortunately. Are you helping them Lone wolf, for on the Conspiracy Board, I don;t recall you saying my efforts to stop suicide were honourable.

On the contrary, convincing others to not commit suicide is perfectly honorable. But personally, I believe that every person has a right to life, and to not live. I do not believe in ridding someone of the choice of killing themselves -- they didn't choose to be brought into this world, but they can have a choice to take themselves out of it.

So would you now accuse the Lord for giving up his life for others.... as suicide.

The Trinity thing is bullspit anyways, so I don't care really. I'm dealing with fiction.

But yes, fictionally, I'd accuse him. But it's not the first hypocrisy your fictitious God has done.

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Mat 12:37 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Mat&chapter=12&verse=37&version=kjv#37)For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

OMG! Your invisible friend will hurt me! That's okay. I have FSM, and he's 100 times stronger than your invisible friend.

So do watch out for your accussations, you can definitely accuse the false church for not helping MORE those that are alone, and accuse the false church for other atrocious crimes, just watch that you don;t blame the Lord. Thanks

Don't give me advice. Thanks.

BTW: God is not tricky? Bullspit! God is PLENTY tricky.

All we have to even show that He exists is an ancient retranslated, picky piece of literature. Do you think the Bible was made by God? It was made by Man. it was made by Church. And that very false church is the same thing that was responsible for translating the very source you quote from!

I'd also add that even before all the translations, it was originally a series of stories that was voted on by a council and put into the Bible. That's right -- they picked and choosed which passages to put in. The False Church has made your False Literature, and now you're a True Believer of a False Hope. It's sad.

[Orangutan]

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Indeed,

What about Spanking as foreplay?, if we both consent, Is that healthy?

[Taffer]

As mentioned Cybord, watch what you say...

Mat 12:37 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat012.html#37) For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

It would be much safer for you to be foolish elsewhere...

You do not scare us, DJJ, so don't even bother.

[Kochanski]

Oh, the Greek gods were pretty powerful, although I have always had a soft spot in my heart for Thor. I like thunder. But for sex creating I definitely give it to Zeus hands down. Even when he didn't quite know what he was doing (I mean how do you miss Aphrodite and impregnate Gaia instead?) he certainly seemed to be doing a lot of it. We don't get any of that about Jesus in the Bible. You would think if he created it, he would be doing it.

[El_Spectre]

For by thy words thou shalt be justified

I didn't know the bible had much to say on typesetting. The big red letters should have been the tip off...

[Orangutan]

You do not scare us, DJJ, so don't even bother.

Taffer, DJJ is trying to help us. He can help me by defining healthy Pleasurable Sex better. I'm into a lot of stuff and I want to know what god approves of.

[Terry]

As mentioned Cybord, watch what you say...

Mat 12:37 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat012.html#37) For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

It would be much safer for you to be foolish elsewhere...

http://www.zazzle.com/products/product/product.asp?product_id=235168215033992232

[Lisa Simpson]

We don't get any of that about Jesus in the Bible. You would think if he created it, he would be doing it.


I feel sorry for him.

He had sex with his mother. He was probably completely messed up and how long was this before therapy was invented?

[Hokulele]

I don't have to convince you of anything, creation and sex itself is its own proof.

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Rom 1:22 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Rom&chapter=1&verse=22&version=kjv#22)Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Prove things to yourself and quite trying to blame others for yuor lack of discernment. As creation and sex is a wtiness against you if you think they don;t prove design and pleasure and reproduction and creation.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Proveit.html

Wait a minute, you just told me in another thread that you decided everything in the bible written by Paul is wrong.

[slingblade]

Seeing this board has sexual topics on it, allow me to suggest to true seekers and true skeptics that Jesus created sex.


This is called the No True Scotsman fallacy. You keep using it. It is hard to take your posts seriously, especially when they begin with a fallacy.

This "true" member of any group that you keep trying to come up with does not, cannot, and will not exist.

[cyborg]

It would be much safer for you to be foolish elsewhere...

Why, would your god not spot me? :rolleyes:

I'm like, so scared.

[Apathia]

Three are ONE, hows that for unity and harmony.

Its called the Trinity, but it almost beyond our comprehension, even though we can understand how water can be in different forms, solid, gas, and water. So maybe that is as close we can come to understanding this basic principle.

Like the different facets of a single crystal. Like the three leaflets of a single clover. (My name is Patrick, so I grew up knowing that.)
The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit exist in eternity as individual personalities sharing one transcendent essence.

David, good that you're trying a different approach. Everybody likes sex. Though I predict this thread will grow increasingly rebald.

I was an SDA missionary years ago. During that time, I saw three types of missionaries, not only among the SDAs but the Baptists and others.

Type one, the most common, assumed they were still in the Bible Belt in terms of how they spoke of and explained the gospel. Some had been in Asian countries for decades and still didn't understand cultural differences and local spiritual traditions.

Type two studied, at least from books, the cultural and religious backgounds of the people and looked for ways to frame the gospel for them.

Type three listened to individuals and their spirtual journies and shared their own growing understanding in dialog.

While it's true that type three missionaries didn't haul in the large number of converts the hard sale tactics of type two could, they are the ones who left and took with them the deeper spirtual inpact.

My suggestion to you is listen. Get to know what the skeptics on this board are about. Share core values of love and compassion, rather than unscientific stuff that makes it a field day for the woo bashers.

Post some kitty pictures yourself. In your own threads. have your misses post some recipies. Don't preach. Be yourself. Yeah, I know some of us give you are hard time. But you might want to explore what your adversaries find important and want to protect. It's not that far at heart from what you'd see of value as well.

We have Christians on this board who do bare their hearts and aren't silent about what they believe, but they aren't evangelists. They don't make us an object of their religious agenda, but share heart. For that reason some of the same people who have responded to you with rudeness have only respect for them.

Relax. Don't make your time here a military campeign. If you do, you'll get angrier and angrier and start verbally lashing out at people to the point that you''l get banned. It's happened a naumber of times at the JREF before. Don't go there.

[Davidjayjordan]

You do not scare us, DJJ, so don't even bother.

Its not me you have to be afraid of ..... I am peace loving and mellow as mellow and peaceful as can be.

I only post words from the Lord, to directly answer what you are writing.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Lordlovesjudgment.html

[cyborg]

Its not me you have to be afraid of

Indeed. You are pathetic. And so is your god. So pathetic compared to my awesomeness. I laugh in its face.

[Lonewulf]

Its not me you have to be afraid of ..... I am peace loving and mellow as mellow and peaceful as can be.

Yet your God is not.

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Never, ever have I seen somebody miss the sarcasm in a post as badly as DJJ did with this one.

Well, having followed the multitudinous DJJ posts, I can tell you that he misses everything anyone says. I have finish most of my beer and am completely out of popcorn at this point and it's still Saturday. :boggled:

[Davidjayjordan]

Like the different facets of a single crystal. Like the three leaflets of a single clover. (My name is Patrick, so I grew up knowing that.)
The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit exist in eternity as individual personalities sharing one transcendent essence.

David, good that you're trying a different approach. Everybody likes sex. Though I predict this thread will grow increasingly rebald.

I was an SDA missionary years ago. During that time, I saw three types of missionaries, not only amoung the SDAs but the Baptists and others.

Type one, the most common, assumed they were still in the Bible Belt in terms of how they spoke of and explained the gospel. Some had been in Asian countries for decades and still didn't understand cultural differences and local spiritual traditions.

Type two studied, at least from books, the cultural and religious backgounds of the people and looked for ways to frame the gospel for them.

Type three listened to individuals and their spirtual journies and shared their own growing understanding in dialog.

While it's true that type three missionaries didn't haul in the large number of converts the hard sale tactics of type two could, they are the ones who left and took with them the deeper spirtual inpact.

My suggestion to you is listen. Get to know what the skeptics on this board are about. Share core values of love and compassion, rather than unscientific stuff that makes it a field day for the woo bashers.

Post some kitty pictures yourself. In your own threads. have your misses post some recipies. Don't preach. Be yourself. Yeah, I know some of us give you are hard time. But you might want to explore what your adversaries find important and want to protect. It's not that far at heart from what you'd see of value as well.

We have Christians on this board who do bare their hearts and aren't silent about what they believe, but they aren't evangelists. They don't make us an object of their religious agenda, but share heart. For that reason some of the same people who have responded to you with rudeness have only respect for them.

Relax. Don't make your time here a military campeign. If you do, you'll get angrier and angrier and start verbally lashing out at people to the point that you''l get banned. It's happened a naumber of times at the JREF before. Don't go there.

Bro, I am not here for a long time only a good time....

If I stayed too long it would be unfruitful, although I do like a few of the confirmations I found on the science board. The conspiracy board is a total joke, because they deny conspiracies and swallow lies.

But Yes, I have gotten some contacts from some good members here, in private via emails.

And do admit I enjoy frustrating those that have no intelligence and say they are skeptics wanting knowledge. They have to be put in their place, even as the apostles and disciples had to counter them in their teachings at the market places.

You have to admit these guys are for the most part dumber than dumb and get into foolishness so easily to cover up their inadequacies.

So don;t worry about me. I just love witnessing and don't like just staying in our newsgroups. I like the real world and real people even if the majority are vile and foolish, for a few gems like yourself and a few others I have communicated with are worth the stay..

Sexulaly these guys are a mess, and yet the truth is THE LORD CREATED SEX, Ha as if there is anything I know its BIOLOGY...

[slingblade]

Its not me you have to be afraid of ..... I am peace loving and mellow as mellow and peaceful as can be.

I only post words from the Lord, to directly answer what you are writing.
[/URL]

No, you don't. You post delusions or lies or both. Because there is no "lord."

Just people. Cruel, mean, lying, selfish, bigoted, ignorant people. Who want to hurt as many people as they can. Who do a good job of it. Who can destroy entire lives and not even blink. Who count that a good day's work. Who actually feel they've done the world a service by ruining lives and destroying those they choose to. I hate those people. Unfortunately, that's most people. The world sucks, and not a stinking thing we can really do about it, but wait it out until we finally die.

There are also a small handful of good people. I found them here.

[Gravy]

The thing is, they should always tell us when a particular mode of transportation is no longer available. They shouldn't wait until they think a mode of transport that matters to them will be defunct, like the Concorde. I knew all about the Concorde, and I knew I would never fly in it. But when I tried to reserve two seats on the CA-60 for London, "Tama...st..la" or somesuch at the United reservations desk told me, and I almost quote, "I'm sorry, sir, but we don't offer flying boat service."

"Oh, since when? I'm looking at a picture on the internet right now."

"I don't know sir. I can only tell you that all of our aircraft depart from airports like LaGuardia, Newark, JFK..."

"LaGuardia, on the water. Newark, practically on the water. JFA, never heard of it..."

"I'm sorry, sir, but..."

"But where can I take your CA-60 service to London?"

"Sir, as I said, United doesn't offer that service..."

"...And when you discontinued it, you announced it to..."

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[Kochanski]

And now it is time for Einstein, the wise, wise kitty. I am pretty sure the Egyptians worshipped him in his past life.

[Gravy]

Sexulaly these guys are a messDo you really mean that, or are you just saying that?

[Lonewulf]

And now it is time for Einstein, the wise, wise kitty. I am pretty sure the Egyptians worshipped him in his past life.

Gyawwww :)

[Tricky]

...if there is anything I know its BIOLOGY...
I accept this statement as true, though perhaps not the way he intended it.

[Gravy]

And now it is time for Einstein, the wise, wise kitty. I am pretty sure the Egyptians worshipped him in his past life.Einstein is very cute! At my local museum, they have mummified Egyptian kitties. They are posed as if sitting up, just like Einstein. I suppose if you were a Pharoah or someone else important, you wouldn't want a cat lying down on the job. Will you have Einstein mummified when he's all done?

[Kochanski]

Einstein was my sister's kitty, but she had to give him to a friend because she is highly allergic. I would have taken him, but George (my dog) would definitely terrify Einstein.

Einstein does the pose so well, looks all the regal stuff :) He would make a very good mummy cat.

[Cosmo]

As mentioned Cybord, watch what you say...

Mat 12:37 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat012.html#37) For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

It would be much safer for you to be foolish elsewhere...

Shatner did the verbal bolding much better.

"Risk IS our business. That's what this starship is all about. That's why we're aboard her."

[Björn Toulouse]

Sexulaly these guys are a mess, and yet the truth is THE LORD CREATED SEX, Ha as if there is anything I know its BIOLOGY...

How do you know? Are you Joey Greco from Cheaters? And if your education in biology is anything like your other "world class" acheivements, spare us the extra laugh.

How many are agreeing with you that you have frustrated those here other than the ones in your own head?

[Apathia]

You have to admit these guys are for the most part dumber than dumb and get into foolishness so easily to cover up their inadequacies.

No, I don't find that true of the majority. There are a some guys I could count on one hand that aren't very bright, and you haven't encountered them. Though I'm sure they've already gotten your scent.
Have fun then for the remainder of your brief visit.

[SezMe]

But He is not tricky.
Tricky's the TLA God. All hail.

[Taffer]

I didn't know the bible had much to say on typesetting. The big red letters should have been the tip off...

This made me laugh quite hard. Thanks ES. :D

[Taffer]

Taffer, DJJ is trying to help us. He can help me by defining healthy Pleasurable Sex better. I'm into a lot of stuff and I want to know what god approves of.

Heh. He, like others such as K.K., think they can scare us with "keep using your brain and you will go to hell! Oh noes!!!1oneeleven". I :rolleyes: a lot.

[Taffer]

Its not me you have to be afraid of ..... I am peace loving and mellow as mellow and peaceful as can be.

I only post words from the Lord, to directly answer what you are writing.[/URL]

Do you have evidence the bible is, in fact, "words from the Lord"?

Just so you know, DJJ, I'm still not scared.

[Taffer]

Ha as if there is anything I know its BIOLOGY...

No, you don't. Or, to give you the benifit of the doubt, you haven't shown any knowledge of simple biology.

Tell me, David, during which phase of miosis does recombination occur? How do certain bacteria pass plasmids and other genomic material from one to another? What cytokine is released when an egg is fertilized?

These are simple questions for anyone who 'knows' biology. They are even simple questions for anyone who 'knows' google. Do you 'know' either?

[Taffer]

There are also a small handful of good people. I found them here.

Very, very, well said slingblade.

[Taffer]

I accept this statement as true, though perhaps not the way he intended it.

I had the exact same though, Tricky. Hopefully he will prove me wrong. Hopefully he will go and learn something. Anything. The universe is a wonderful and beautiful place, from the smallest atop to the largest galaxy. I will never understand why people need to construct fantasy in such a universe, as it is fantastic enough.

[lupus_in_fabula]

So the people in the Far East, already practising their own much older religions, had to wait until this Jesus turned up in Nazareth, before they could have sex?

[logical muse]

DJJ, a couple of questions...

Is there a Mrs. God? I've never heard about her if there is. How did Mr. God create sex if he didn't have a partner? Is Man (by Man I mean the human race) really created in His image if Man produces gametes (http://biology.about.com/bldefgametes.htm) for reproduction?

Did Jesus ever have sex? If so, how many partners, and who were they? If not, why not?

[Victor Meldrew]

As mentioned Cybord, watch what you say...

Mat 12:37 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat012.html#37) For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

It would be much safer for you to be foolish elsewhere...


Oh dear. And there was me about to say that the whole bible story is be-oh-el-el-oh-se-kay-es. Let's hope god's not too good at spelling. Or I'm fried.

[Foolmewunz]

So the people in the Far East, already practising their own much older religions, had to wait until this Jesus turned up in Nazareth, before they could have sex?

Sad, but true. And from the looks of the populations of just India and China (2.5 billion), they've been making up for lost time.

I'm over here to do my little part.

[Zep]

Gentlefolk all,

DJJ IS A TROLL. HE IS SIMPLY TRYING TO PUMP HIS WEBSITE HIT-COUNT AND GOOGLE-BOMB IT WITH HIS SIG. YOU ARE ADVISED NOT TO PLAY WITH HIM ANY MORE.

Regards

[Taffer]

Partypooper. :(

[ponderingturtle]

I didn't read much of it. But tell me, does he mention how all those other people came into existence before sex was created? As I recall, there was lots and lots of begatting in the OT.

Or all the pre jesus records we have of sex. What where the kings of isreal really doing with all those wifes and concubines then? To say nothing of getting outside the bible.

[Foolmewunz]

Gentlefolk all,

DJJ IS A TROLL. HE IS SIMPLY TRYING TO PUMP HIS WEBSITE HIT-COUNT AND GOOGLE-BOMB IT WITH HIS SIG. YOU ARE ADVISED NOT TO PLAY WITH HIM ANY MORE.

Regards

bumped so it'll be prominent on top of the next page

(Agreed. I figured someone had to have reported him for spamming, but I haven't seen any little yellow taggies on the posts I've thought should've been warned.)

[cyborg]

The chance of me visiting his website is nil.

He still has some limited entertainment value though.

[Davidjayjordan]

Oh, the Greek gods were pretty powerful, although I have always had a soft spot in my heart for Thor. I like thunder. But for sex creating I definitely give it to Zeus hands down. Even when he didn't quite know what he was doing (I mean how do you miss Aphrodite and impregnate Gaia instead?) he certainly seemed to be doing a lot of it. We don't get any of that about Jesus in the Bible. You would think if he created it, he would be doing it.

Of course he did it, he created it, and him doing it would be natural and normal and very spiritual as He had the best heart possible and would be giving not taking and loving not possessing.

Read between the lines as the church system has removed much of the sexual truths about Jesus and the Bible.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/DoesthelordhaveaPenus.html

As for thunder, it goes together with lightning, and gives the earth its resonance.... and it is sexual...

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/LightningElectricityandSex.html

[Davidjayjordan]

Wait a minute, you just told me in another thread that you decided everything in the bible written by Paul is wrong.

No i said sometimes Paul was not in the Spirit, just like you. And when Paul spoke about women, and telling them to shut up, cover their hair and obey their husbands to the max, then he was speaking as a man not in the Spirit of the Lord, for the Lord gives freedom and wisdom and equality. This many men are afraid of, as they want power over women.

Paul was so afraid of women, that he wouldn;t allow widows into the congregation until they turned sixty and supposedly asexual... Paul was petrified when it came to women.

Use discernment Hok, rather than labeling. Duiscernment takes time and principles established to figure out. You can NOT be spoon fed.... it takes study and real life and real heart.

Which dress code do you prefer Paul's or the Lord's

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/PaulsDressCode.html

[Davidjayjordan]

I said .....If there is anything I know its BIOLOGY... .I accept this statement as true, though perhaps not the way he intended it.

For tricky, knowing biology doesn't just come from book reading or from the universities of man, but knowing it in real life in the mountains, on the beaches, under water, in real life with real people and with real women.

As mentioned it is not a word game but real experiences, for real skepticism loses its skepticism when faced with real love from a real woman.

Its straight forward if you are...

[Davidjayjordan]

How do you know? Are you Joey Greco from Cheaters? And if your education in biology is anything like your other "world class" acheivements, spare us the extra laugh.

How many are agreeing with you that you have frustrated those here other than the ones in your own head?

Bjorn, count the foolish posts by your frustrated comrades that are trying to wreck a discussion here and elsewhere. they fear DESIGN and they fear honest discussions even more.

They are frustrated and it shows in their foolish postings.

[Davidjayjordan]

Now back to JESUS CREATED SEX.... for true skeptics would have to try and find an alternative to him creating it.

So give your best shot and state how sex created itself or by lucky chance was created, or tell me which of your gods created it and how.

Thanks, hoping to hear from ya !!!

[SimonD]

No i said sometimes Paul was not in the Spirit, just like you. And when Paul spoke about women, and telling them to shut up, cover their hair and obey their husbands to the max, then he was speaking as a man not in the Spirit of the Lord, for the Lord gives freedom and wisdom and equality. This many men are afraid of, as they want power over women.

Paul was so afraid of women, that he wouldn;t allow widows into the congregation until they turned sixty and supposedly asexual... Paul was petrified when it came to women.

Use discernment Hok, rather than labeling. Duiscernment takes time and principles established to figure out. You can NOT be spoon fed.... it takes study and real life and real heart.

Which dress code do you prefer Paul's or the Lord's

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/PaulsDressCode.html

So you are admiting that there are parts of the Bible are not true. Finally, something you have writen which is true.

[cyborg]

So give your best shot and state how sex created itself or by lucky chance was created, or tell me which of your gods created it and how.

I CREATED IT THROUGH SHEER AWESOMENESS.

[SimonD]

I said .....If there is anything I know its BIOLOGY... .

But, you don't.

For tricky, knowing biology doesn't just come from book reading or from the universities of man, but knowing it in real life in the mountains, on the beaches, under water, in real life with real people and with real women

I agree, but you can't beat the laws of physics, no matter what a bunch of ancient people wrote, thousands of years ago.

As mentioned it is not a word game but real experiences, for real skepticism loses its skepticism when faced with real love from a real woman.

You can have sex with as many people as you want, David, it is not going to change the way the real world works.

[Davidjayjordan]

So you are admiting that there are parts of the Bible are not true. Finally, something you have writen which is true. The direct words of the Lord are true, prophecy, what Jesus said, and many other places. Other parts are just scripturial, other parts like in parts of Paul's writings are just his opinion and can differ greatly from the Lord's

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/PaulsDressCode.html

And a few parts have been deleted ...as they are just tooooo heavy for beginners.

But there are enough truths there for anyone to connect up with the truth giver. Hence even devious translations can be a LINK to the Lord. besides the bible is just supposed to be the START of a relationship of wisdom and learning and not the end all be ALL as the churchies teach.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/WhatisScripture.html

How's sweet Adelaide, or beautiful Brisbane, or more importantly Surfers Paradise... ahhh the beach, the sun and the fun....

[Taffer]

No i said sometimes Paul was not in the Spirit, just like you. And when Paul spoke about women, and telling them to shut up, cover their hair and obey their husbands to the max, then he was speaking as a man not in the Spirit of the Lord, for the Lord gives freedom and wisdom and equality.

How do you know?

Paul was so afraid of women, that he wouldn;t allow widows into the congregation until they turned sixty and supposedly asexual... Paul was petrified when it came to women.

How do you know?

Use discernment Hok, rather than labeling. Duiscernment takes time and principles established to figure out. You can NOT be spoon fed.... it takes study and real life and real heart.

Many of us have done years of study into many subjects, David. You, it appears, have not.

Which dress code do you prefer Paul's or the Lord's

Man, what an uptight git! God even requires a dress code to get into heaven! :rolleyes:

[SimonD]

The direct words of the Lord are true, prophecy, what Jesus said, and many other places. Other parts are just scripturial, other parts like in parts of Paul's writings are just his opinion and can differ greatly from the Lord's

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/PaulsDressCode.html

And a few parts have been deleted ...as they are just tooooo heavy for beginners.

But there are enough truths there for anyone to connect up with the truth giver. Hence even devious translations can be a LINK to the Lord. besides the bible is just supposed to be the START of a relationship of wisdom and learning and not the end all be ALL as the churchies teach.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/WhatisScripture.html

How's sweet Adelaide, or beautiful Brisbane, or more importantly Surfers Paradise... ahhh the beach, the sun and the fun....

Sounds to me you are picking and choosing what you want to believe in, but that is consistant with all of your other threads as well. You have posted serveral quotes from the Bible that goes against doing this.

Brisbane is dark at the moment - love working the night shift, 6pm till 6 am. Nothing happens on a Sunday, when you work for the government. Have you ever been to Australia?

[Taffer]

I said .....If there is anything I know its BIOLOGY... .

And you ignored my questions. Please answer them, or admit you know nothing about biology (or google).

For tricky, knowing biology doesn't just come from book reading or from the universities of man, but knowing it in real life in the mountains, on the beaches, under water, in real life with real people and with real women.

Fair enough. But, y'know, I'd trust anything Tricky has to say about biology over you any day of the week.

As mentioned it is not a word game but real experiences, for real skepticism loses its skepticism when faced with real love from a real woman.

So you don't have any scientific evidence for anything then?

Its straight forward if you are...

Evidence is very straight foward. You are anything but.

[Taffer]

Now back to JESUS CREATED SEX.... for true skeptics would have to try and find an alternative to him creating it.

So give your best shot and state how sex created itself or by lucky chance was created, or tell me which of your gods created it and how.

Thanks, hoping to hear from ya !!!

Nothing "created sex". That is a meaningless phrase. If you really wish to learn how the two sexes came about, we can teach. But you don't really wish to learn, do you?

[Taffer]

I CREATED IT THROUGH SHEER AWESOMENESS.

When I read this, I LOL'd. :D

[Taffer]

The direct words of the Lord are true, prophecy, what Jesus said, and many other places. Other parts are just scripturial, other parts like in parts of Paul's writings are just his opinion and can differ greatly from the Lord's

How do you know?

And a few parts have been deleted ...as they are just tooooo heavy for beginners.

How do you know?

But there are enough truths there for anyone to connect up with the truth giver. Hence even devious translations can be a LINK to the Lord. besides the bible is just supposed to be the START of a relationship of wisdom and learning and not the end all be ALL as the churchies teach.

What about other religions?

[jsfisher]

Let me see if I understand all this:

Sex only exists if Jesus created it, but, there is no evidence of Jesus actually existing (other than the self-serving and contradictory accounts in the Bible).

So, sex must not exist for if it did, then that would be evidence of Jesus, of which there isn't, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Ok, now here's my question: What do I tell the wife later on this evening?

[Davidjayjordan]

Man, what an uptight git! God even requires a dress code to get into heaven! :rolleyes:

NO, the Lord only sees your heart, and naked we came into this world and naked we go into His WORLD.

But Paul wanted women to cover up, and so stop him and men from lusting after them, when sexual attraction and beauty came from the Lord and is natural and normal

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Abeautifulgirl.html

[Taffer]

NO, the Lord only sees your heart, and naked we came into this world and naked we go into His WORLD.

*woooooosh*

But Paul wanted women to cover up, and so stop him and men from lusting after them, when sexual attraction and beauty came from the Lord and is natural and normal

How do you know?

[SimonD]

How do you know?

Because it's in Bible, no wait, Paul wrote in the Bible...but he didn't write the truth...but I thought god wrote the bible...now I am just confused:boggled:

[Davidjayjordan]

Let me see if I understand all this:

Sex only exists if Jesus created it, but, there is no evidence of Jesus actually existing (other than the self-serving and contradictory accounts in the Bible).

So, sex must not exist for if it did, then that would be evidence of Jesus, of which there isn't, yadda, yadda, yadda.



No Jesus always existed and sex was always part of His Nature. And whether you believe in His existence or not does not change the FACT of His existence nor the existence of sex even if you can;t see that either or aren't getting any either. he and sex still exists.

[cyborg]

THE FACT THAT YOU ARE WRONG DOES NOT CHANGE MY AWESOMENESS.

[Davidjayjordan]

Ok, now here's my question: What do I tell the wife later on this evening?

Be honest and better yet be honest with each other before hand, and know each other before marrying. For honesty and communication and mutual values is the only way to true freedom. You can;t pick and choose honesty, it has to be in all areas .. and that means it has to come from Him that created all areas and ourselves as well.

[Davidjayjordan]

Because it's in Bible, no wait, Paul wrote in the Bible...but he didn't write the truth...but I thought god wrote the bible...now I am just confused:boggled:

Yes, you are confused, so just take some time off, get yourself together and then start with the BASICS... Maybe try...

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Biblemysteries.html

[SimonD]

Yes, you are confused, so just take some time off, get yourself together and then start with the BASICS... Maybe try...

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Biblemysteries.html

You ducked!

ETA (got caught on the phone)

Why would I listen to a guy who's math is wrong and who can't spell to save his life. When you have something worthy of saying and has been proven true, I may consider having a look at what you have writen. So far, all I have seen is delusions, lies and insults

[Apathia]

It's no use, Zep. The heckling of the trolls is a favorite pass time of many here. Now that David has completely showed his hand, he is entitiled to whatever action he gets for the duration of his stay.

[SimonD]

It's no use, Zep. The heckling of the trolls is a favorite pass time of many here. Now that David has completely showed his hand, he is entitiled to whatever action he gets for the duration of his stay.

Keeps me awake on the night shift:)

[fuelair]

I didn't read much of it. But tell me, does he mention how all those other people came into existence before sex was created? As I recall, there was lots and lots of begatting in the OT.


Maybe he means J invented whacking off or guy-guy sex. I think that's contrary to the bibble - but then DJs rants usually are - not that it matters.

On the other hand, it clearly is a troll, DFTT - or start kittens and recipes.

[fuelair]

I still like this "God is sexy" comment. What's sex with God feel like?

Or is that breaking rules? :D

You'd have to ask his BBoys - or the goats.

[Davidjayjordan]

Allow me to suggest to you the answer why, the false skeptics HERE can not win an argument and can't post a positive THREAD anywhere.

The reason is simple, because their whole modus operandi is believing in nothing. Therefore they can have no background basis for anything, and hence every post is basically there first beginning steps into that realm. They have no intellectual weapons to stand on, as negation is not a weapon. It has no positive values.

They can not refer to a website or much less their own website, because by their very lack of any orientation and being unable to connect up anything, they are forced to be null and void and weaponless mentally. They can NOT have websites or share any truths because they deny all truths and are afraid of truths that connect and show reason and logic and design.

Chaos and luck and chance just don't allow them to build websites that show luck and chance built them. Hence they are are weaponless and unarmed when it comes to any real discussion and so must revert back to their congregational name calling of any that dare differ with their nothingness.

That's my accessment of why false skeptics keep name calling, and labeling and making foolish comments in real discussions. They are uarmed and so try mockery and foolishness, and hence lose all crebability, which is shown because they have no visable websites to call their own.

[cyborg]

YOU ARE UNABLE TO DENY MY AWESOMENESS. SUCH A SIMPLE ACT YET YOU FEAR IT.

[Timble]

....They can not refer to a website or much less their own website, because by their very lack of any orientation and being unable to connect up anything, they are forced to be null and void and weaponless mentally. They can NOT have websites or share any truths because they deny all truths and are afraid of truths that connect and show reason and logic and design....


Citing yourself is always a sign of a feeble argument.

Plenty of poeple on this board have sites, though i'm not one of them.


They are uarmed and so try mockery and foolishness, and hence lose all crebability, which is shown because they have no visable websites to call their own.

Anybody with the money (doen't even need a lot) and internet connection can have a website. But it doesn't make you any more credible than the shabby guy on the street corner with the sandwich board reading "Prepare to Meet thy DOOM" and handing out badly photocopied leaflets.

[SimonD]

That's my accessment of why false skeptics keep name calling, and labeling and making foolish comments in real discussions. They are uarmed and so try mockery and foolishness, and hence lose all crebability, which is shown because they have no visable websites to call their own.

You have insulted people, told lies and want to argue against the laws of Physics. You are a deluded fool.

[Hokulele]

OK, this has been fun and all, but I think I am going to sum up my thoughts on this thread and, more importantly, on this poster in one question.

DJJ, have you ever had temporal lobe seizures?

I hate to use the term "textbook case", but this seems to be one. I will quote a passage from the chapter "God and the Limbic System" from the book listed in my sig. Any spelling errors are my own.

Patients have heightened emotions and see cosmic significance in trivial events. It is claimed that they tend to be humorless, full of self-importance, and to maintain elaborate diaries [Hokulele - or websites!] that record quotidian events in elaborate detail - a trait called hypergraphia. Patients have on occasion given me hundreds of pages of written text filled with mystical symbols and notations. Some of these patients are sticky in conversation, argumentative, pedantic, and egocentric (although less so than many of my scientific colleagues), and they are obsessively preoccupied with philosophical and theological issues.

Ramachandran then goes on to describe a case study. One line of this description states:

But later that afternoon, Paul flirted shamelessly with two of my female graduate students and tried to get their home telephone numbers. This paradoxical combination of loss of libido and a preoccupation with sexual rituals is not unusual in patients with temporal lobe epilepsy.

It is just coincidence that I had read this book right before DJJ started posting, but I think this explains much of the behaviour we have seen on this and other threads.

[Taffer]

No Jesus always existed and sex was always part of His Nature. And whether you believe in His existence or not does not change the FACT of His existence nor the existence of sex even if you can;t see that either or aren't getting any either. he and sex still exists.

It is not a fact if you only assert it to be so, David. Do you have any evidence?

[Taffer]

Keeps me awake on the night shift:)

I'd offer to have a beer and talk about cricket, but I fear I'd only end up getting depressed. :(

[Taffer]

Allow me to suggest to you the answer why, the false skeptics HERE can not win an argument and can't post a positive THREAD anywhere.

Since you've been unable to convince anyone here of your drivel, I'd say it's you who are unable to win an argument, huh?

The reason is simple, because their whole modus operandi is believing in nothing. Therefore they can have no background basis for anything, and hence every post is basically there first beginning steps into that realm. They have no intellectual weapons to stand on, as negation is not a weapon. It has no positive values.

That is not what it means to be a skeptic.

They can not refer to a website or much less their own website, because by their very lack of any orientation and being unable to connect up anything, they are forced to be null and void and weaponless mentally. They can NOT have websites or share any truths because they deny all truths and are afraid of truths that connect and show reason and logic and design.

Having your own website does not make you right!

Chaos and luck and chance just don't allow them to build websites that show luck and chance built them. Hence they are are weaponless and unarmed when it comes to any real discussion and so must revert back to their congregational name calling of any that dare differ with their nothingness.

What about those of us who do have websites?

That's my accessment of why false skeptics keep name calling, and labeling and making foolish comments in real discussions. They are uarmed and so try mockery and foolishness, and hence lose all crebability, which is shown because they have no visable websites to call their own.

We do so because you have shown no desire to answer any of our questions. Perhaps you'd like to change this? Why not answer my questions about biology?

[logical muse]

They can not refer to a website or much less their own website, because by their very lack of any orientation and being unable to connect up anything, they are forced to be null and void and weaponless mentally. They can NOT have websites or share any truths because they deny all truths and are afraid of truths that connect and show reason and logic and design.

You make no sense.

I have many many web sites.

Here's one: http://www.notjustatheory.com/

[logical muse]

You've ignored my questions, so I'll ask them again:

Is there a Mrs. God? I've never heard about her if there is. How did Mr. God create sex if he didn't have a partner? Is Man (by Man I mean the human race) really created in His image if Man produces gametes for reproduction?

Did Jesus ever have sex? If so, how many partners, and who were they? If not, why not?

[Gord_in_Toronto]

OK, this has been fun and all, but I think I am going to sum up my thoughts on this thread and, more importantly, on this poster in one question.

DJJ, have you ever had temporal lobe seizures?

I hate to use the term "textbook case", but this seems to be one. I will quote a passage from the chapter "God and the Limbic System" from the book listed in my sig. Any spelling errors are my own.



Ramachandran then goes on to describe a case study. One line of this description states:



It is just coincidence that I had read this book right before DJJ started posting, but I think this explains much of the behaviour we have seen on this and other threads.

I think that DJJ does display these symptoms and they are a good explanation for his posts and their content.

I have followed the postings of similar people on scl.skeptic over the years. Unfortunately, some seem to become very vindictive and try such things as e-mailing employers and eductational institutions to try and silence their critics.

I stand by my frequently expressed point that keeping them busy online keeps them off the streets and bothering people in person. This is a public service.

[brooklyn44]

DavidJJ sez: " I opposed suicide and so does the Lord,"

well, that settles it, so do I.
b44

[fuelair]

Allow me to suggest to you the answer why, the false skeptics HERE can not win an argument and can't post a positive THREAD anywhere.

The reason is simple, because their whole modus operandi is believing in nothing. Therefore they can have no background basis for anything, and hence every post is basically there first beginning steps into that realm. They have no intellectual weapons to stand on, as negation is not a weapon. It has no positive values.

They can not refer to a website or much less their own website, because by their very lack of any orientation and being unable to connect up anything, they are forced to be null and void and weaponless mentally. They can NOT have websites or share any truths because they deny all truths and are afraid of truths that connect and show reason and logic and design.

Chaos and luck and chance just don't allow them to build websites that show luck and chance built them. Hence they are are weaponless and unarmed when it comes to any real discussion and so must revert back to their congregational name calling of any that dare differ with their nothingness.

That's my accessment of why false skeptics keep name calling, and labeling and making foolish comments in real discussions. They are uarmed and so try mockery and foolishness, and hence lose all crebability, which is shown because they have no visable websites to call their own.

Are you denying that I BELIEVE that you are incompetant?
Are you denying that I BELIEVE that you are trolling?
Are you denying that I BELIEVE that your numerology based religious "ideas" are a mockery of real Xtians?
Are you denying that I BELIEVE that you are here only to waste our time and try to raise your site numbers so you can get people to advertise on your sites?
Are you denying that I BELIEVE that you are almost as bad as Slyvia Brown and John Dedwards and Urine Gello and Allison Dubious (only not as bad because so far you just blather - I have no evidence that you rob people through their beliefs.)?
And those are just a few of the things I believe - they just aren't the ignorant claptrap you claim to.

[Mercutio]

So DJJ, who "knows biology", has a web page called "DoesthelordhaveaPenus"? Penus?

[fuelair]

Allow me to suggest to you the answer why, the false skeptics HERE can not win an argument and can't post a positive THREAD anywhere.

The reason is simple, because their whole modus operandi is believing in nothing. Therefore they can have no background basis for anything, and hence every post is basically there first beginning steps into that realm. They have no intellectual weapons to stand on, as negation is not a weapon. It has no positive values.

They can not refer to a website or much less their own website, because by their very lack of any orientation and being unable to connect up anything, they are forced to be null and void and weaponless mentally. They can NOT have websites or share any truths because they deny all truths and are afraid of truths that connect and show reason and logic and design.

Chaos and luck and chance just don't allow them to build websites that show luck and chance built them. Hence they are are weaponless and unarmed when it comes to any real discussion and so must revert back to their congregational name calling of any that dare differ with their nothingness.

That's my accessment of why false skeptics keep name calling, and labeling and making foolish comments in real discussions. They are uarmed and so try mockery and foolishness, and hence lose all crebability, which is shown because they have no visable websites to call their own.

Uarmed and crebability aren't bad! Could you either define them or use them in a meaningful sentence, please? I hate not knowing the proper definitions of words I haven't seen before! Thanks much, :D

[Orangutan]

I will quote a passage from the chapter "God and the Limbic System" from the book listed in my sig.

He also mentions that in his "Phantoms in the Brain" which, by the way, is an excellent text.

[Hokulele]

He also mentions that in his "Phantoms in the Brain" which, by the way, is an excellent text.

Yup, that's the book in my sig. I agree, an excellent text and I often recommend it to people looking for a decent intro to neuroscience. I hope people on this thread notice this and keep it in mind when responding. You cannot have a rational debate with someone operating on a completely different plane of reality.

[SamanthaMc]

Now back to JESUS CREATED SEX.... for true skeptics would have to try and find an alternative to him creating it.

So give your best shot and state how sex created itself or by lucky chance was created, or tell me which of your gods created it and how.

Thanks, hoping to hear from ya !!!

Why do you say "Jesus created sex" rather than "God created sex"? I mean, in your bible it says "god created the heavens and the earth," not "Jesus created the heavens and the earth." What's up with that?

[Kochanski]

I don't think anyone here is expecting a rational debate (or anything like rational thought) from DJJ. Mostly we just like playing with holy roller trolls :D

Cyborg, I bow to your awesomeness :alien003:

[Lonewulf]

Why do you say "Jesus created sex" rather than "God created sex"? I mean, in your bible it says "god created the heavens and the earth," not "Jesus created the heavens and the earth." What's up with that?

Jesus is God, silly.

Except when he's not.

He's, like, not God. But he's God. But he's not God. And he's the Holy Ghost. But he's not. Yet he is. But he's... *slaps self*

[Björn Toulouse]

Allow me to suggest to you the answer why, the false skeptics HERE can not win an argument and can't post a positive THREAD anywhere.



Incorrect. YOU have not won a single argument. This thread is YOUR thread. The responses you get are to your own stupid claims and just because they refute what you say only makes them seem negative from your perspective.



The reason is simple, because their whole modus operandi is believing in nothing.



Incorrect. Believing in nothing that you believe in is the correct statement.



Therefore they can have no background basis for anything, and hence every post is basically there first beginning steps into that realm.



Into what realm? Your realm of lunacy? Who would want to go there?



They have no intellectual weapons to stand on, as negation is not a weapon. It has no positive values.



To the contrary, you were probably met here for the first time with people who were well versed in the various subjects in which you only dreamed that you were "world class" and when your obvious intellectual deficiencies were pointed out to you time after time, you retreated to the position that you were being besieged by a "mob" of negativism. You do not seem to understand the concept of a forum, that people post here independently of each other, that they are addressing each of your posts as individuals, one to one. Since you decided to bring your pseudo-research to a forum where a boatload of skeptics abide, you should have expected the multitude of similar responses that occurred..



They can not refer to a website or much less their own website, because by their very lack of any orientation and being unable to connect up anything, they are forced to be null and void and weaponless mentally.



The website that you constantly refer to is well known on the Internet as a joke, and is listed as one of the Internet's Whacky Websites, but you seem to be proud of that legacy. Hope it's still there for your grandchildren to read. At least Papa can entertain them that way. The second half of the above statement applies only to you. You are the disoriented, the one who fails to connect with reality, the mentally weaponless. It may seem to be fun to make up a world in one's own mind but keep it in your own mind, because that is the only place it will be accepted.



They can NOT have websites or share any truths because they deny all truths and are afraid of truths that connect and show reason and logic and design.



Incorrect again. You are not aware of any websites unless they express some sort of conspiratorial nature. What has been denied here is your own faulty logic and maths which has been shown to you over and over, and the truth of your shortcomings is what YOU deny. Your threads show no reason, no truthful logic, and no design by a god.



Chaos and luck and chance just don't allow them to build websites that show luck and chance built them.



God built yours for you, didn't He? Whatever else you were trying to say in the above statement escapes me.



Hence they are are weaponless and unarmed when it comes to any real discussion and so must revert back to their congregational name calling of any that dare differ with their nothingness.



The only person in your threads who is weaponless and mentally unarmed is David Jay Jordan. You've not discussed anything. You came here to teach and preach your views and when you were called on all of the stupid viewpoints you espouse, you reverted to bible verses to call people fools by proxy, because you don't have the guts to do it yourself.



That's my accessment of why false skeptics keep name calling, and labeling and making foolish comments in real discussions. They are uarmed and so try mockery and foolishness, and hence lose all crebability, which is shown because they have no visable websites to call their own.



By your own definition, you have shown yourself to be the poster-boy for false skepticism. You were met with mockery only after it was obvious that you were never here to discuss anything. You continue to think that if someone has a website, then they are "somebody". You didn't have yours until 2001. What did you think of yourself before that? Big deal on the website business. So if one has a website with lots of porn or one advocating sex between minors and adults, just because it is a website, does that give one the "crebability" that you think they lack? You have been given ample counsel as to where your website essays contained errors, yet you refused to change them or take them down for repair. Instead you lashed out at others for being negative. They were only being truthful to you, but you were too full of yourself to realize that. The internet could be a more beautiful thing were it not for you and others like you who produce the garbage and falsehoods that have to be sifted by others. Why don't you take your musings to a purely mathematical forum where there may be Christians and non-Christians alike and see what kind of feedback you get? Take them to other forums and see how they play out there. Of course, it is expected that you will decide that you are being persecuted for your beliefs because you believe your god has given you some special insight that is not reserved for others and the persecution will only reinforce that type of paranoia.

[strathmeyer]

Who created buttsex?

[cyborg]

Cyborg, I bow to your awesomeness :alien003:

A suitably awesome emoticon.

Be anointed in my AWESOMENESS my child!

[Achán hiNidráne]

They can NOT have websites or share any truths because they deny all truths and are afraid of truths that connect and show reason and logic and design.

So.... Skepticism keeps people from learning HTML or CSS and prevents them from getting web hosting?

Note the irony that this whack-job is posting on a skeptical forum which is linked to a skeptical WWW page.

Somebody better put DDJ back on his meds.

[Jimbo07]

And whether you believe in His existence or not does not change the FACT of His existence nor the existence of sex even if you can;t see that either or aren't getting any either.

And whether you believe in His existence or not does not change the FACT of His non-existence nor the existence of sex even if you can;t see that either or aren't getting any either.

...

Now what?

[Kochanski]

And whether you believe in His existence or not does not change the FACT of His non-existence nor the existence of sex even if you can;t see that either or aren't getting any either.

...

Now what?

Recipes? I can't think of any good ones, but I am sure others have one or two...

[Björn Toulouse]

Recipes? I can't think of any good ones, but I am sure others have one or two...

How's about one from my old buddy, Dr. Broadwell. It seems appropriate now.



Cornbread Salad

I know this sounds like an odd dish, but it is really good. Everyone I have served it to has ask for the recipe. I make it with cornbread that has cheese and jalapeno peppers in it.Dressing:
1 package ranch style dressing mix
8 ounces sour cream
1 cup mayonnaise
1 recipe cornbread
2 (16-ounce) cans pinto beans, drained
3 cups shredded cheddar
3 large tomatoes, chopped
1/2 cup chopped green bell pepper
1/2 cup chopped green onions
1/2 cup chopped chile peppers
1 1/2 cups bacon pieces
1 (15-ounce) can corn, drained

Combine ranch dressing mix, sour cream and mayonnaise and set aside. Place 1/2 of the crumbled cornbread in the bottom of a large serving bowl. Top with 1 can of pinto beans. Follow with 1/2 of the cheese, tomatoes, bell peppers, green onions, chile peppers, bacon, corn, and dressing mixture. Repeat ending with the dressing mixture. Cover and chill at least 2 hours before serving.

[Tricky]

Tricky's the TLA God. All hail.
No, just the Dictator. I don't have supernatural powers.

That would be Darat.

[Hokulele]

I think that DJJ does display these symptoms and they are a good explanation for his posts and their content.

I have followed the postings of similar people on scl.skeptic over the years. Unfortunately, some seem to become very vindictive and try such things as e-mailing employers and eductational institutions to try and silence their critics.

I stand by my frequently expressed point that keeping them busy online keeps them off the streets and bothering people in person. This is a public service.

Oh I wasn't trying to dissuade anyone from playing whack-a-troll, this was just my $0.02 as to what we are seeing here, and how I would be responding in the future. In other words, kittens and recipes!

I'm gonna have to try that Cornbread Salad. I love cornbread, I love salad.

[fuelair]

Who created buttsex?

Either Jesus and his BBoys OR The Backdoor Boys but I forget- but whoever it was was certainly Homo erectus.

[temporalillusion]

So if Jesus created sex, and sex created Jesus...

http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/10730/2003583650839762184_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003583650839762184)

[wollery]

Hold on just a minute here folks. Is JD&C saying that he, a biblical literalist young Earth creationist believes that God, who created everything (including himself, presumably), actually created sex?

Well bugger me sideways with a motorbike! I sure as heck didn't expect that! :rolleyes:

[Skeptic Guy]

I don't recall Mary complaining about god's technique in the Bible, but back then, she was probably supposed to close her eyes and think of Jerusalem.

That's very funny, Lisa. DDJ missed it, but very funny. But I suppose since it was supposed to be a virgin birth, he gave her all the work and pain without any of the fun.

Hold on just a minute here folks. Is JD&C saying that he, a biblical literalist young Earth creationist believes that God, who created everything (including himself, presumably), actually created sex?

Well bugger me sideways with a motorbike! I sure as heck didn't expect that! :rolleyes:

Well, I wonder if the bible covered motorbikes?

What about incest? It seems like God allowed Abraham to marry his sister. And "blessed" him with a son. Is that kind of sex ok?

[Lonewulf]

So if Jesus created sex, and sex created Jesus...

http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/10730/2003583650839762184_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003583650839762184)

I lol'd.

Very good point. Rather circlic, isn't it?

[Davidjayjordan]

It is not a fact if you only assert it to be so, David. Do you have any evidence?

Yes, it is I was a missionary for 15 years living totally by FAITH, with a wife and five kids. Jesus is real not imaginary, I put Him to the test and He works, His principles work. You can base your nothingness on nothingness, I prefer tried and tested and proven. I prefer real life. have I ever told you that before.

Now back to Jesus created sex... as obviously evolution could not have.

[Davidjayjordan]

Actually posters, I have no one to answer, because your maturity level is just too low. I realise you think you are cute and your snide remarks shows your wit or intelligence to your congregation, but there is nothing there. No thought patterns worth responding to, maybe it is because you are so negative you have no sex life, and therefore aren;t concerned who made sexuality.

Anyway for the sake of others, who may be interested in how we reproduce, and who made sex.... the answer is Jesus.

But evolutionists do proceed to tell us how evolution through millions of mistakes simultaneously developed males and then females or vice versa, to have all the attributes and successful mating organisms, to reproduce.

I await the proofs of your claims.

But then again you usually say you know nothing and therefore have to prove nothing as nothing is your belief.

No wonder you can't attract anyone from the opposite sex, you have to have something to be attractive.

[Skeptic Guy]

But God is ok with incest, right?

[Taffer]

Yes, it is I was a missionary for 15 years living totally by FAITH, with a wife and five kids. Jesus is real not imaginary, I put Him to the test and He works, His principles work. You can base your nothingness on nothingness, I prefer tried and tested and proven. I prefer real life. have I ever told you that before.

So you don't have any evidence then? If you don't, why don't you admit it? Because what you've posted here is not evidence, but assertion. You assert that you are correct, but you do not provide any evidence that suggests that you actually are.

Now back to Jesus created sex... as obviously evolution could not have.

Except that it has provided a perfectly good mechanism for the development of two sexes. And you would know that if you had studied evolution.

Have you studied evolution, David?

[Taffer]

Actually posters, I have no one to answer, because your maturity level is just too low. I realise you think you are cute and your snide remarks shows your wit or intelligence to your congregation, but there is nothing there.

We first answered your posts seriously, David. But you have yet to respond to a very large number of honest questions. For example, mine on biology, or Terry's on the earth-moon distance. As long as you continue to ignore them, and spout the same old clap trap as if you were right, then we will not take you seriously.

No thought patterns worth responding to, maybe it is because you are so negative you have no sex life, and therefore aren;t concerned who made sexuality.

:rolleyes:

How do you know this, David? You claim we "have no sex life". How, exactly, do you know this? Evidence would be nice. You can choose me, if you like. Please provide evidence that I have no sex life.

Anyway for the sake of others, who may be interested in how we reproduce, and who made sex.... the answer is Jesus.

False dichotomy. No-one "made sex", David, "sex" developed.

But evolutionists do proceed to tell us how evolution through millions of mistakes simultaneously developed males and then females or vice versa, to have all the attributes and successful mating organisms, to reproduce.

Strawman. This is not what evolution claims at all, David. You would know this if you had studied evolution. Have you studied evolution, David?

I await the proofs of your claims.

That is impossible, since no "evolutionist" has ever claimed what you think they have.

But then again you usually say you know nothing and therefore have to prove nothing as nothing is your belief.

You are the one who has showed no knowledge.

No wonder you can't attract anyone from the opposite sex, you have to have something to be attractive.

Please provide evidence that I have no sex life.

[Davidjayjordan]

DavidJJ sez: " I opposed suicide and so does the Lord,"

well, that settles it, so do I.
b44

If you mean, good on you !!

[Davidjayjordan]

Except that it has provided a perfectly good mechanism for the development of two sexes. And you would know that if you had studied evolution.

Have you studied evolution, David?

Yes, they attempted to FORCE evolution on me in UNIVERSITY, but it made no sense, and they had no answers and the professor got rather upset and so tried to fail me, but I knew my biology and could explain it competantly to the dean, and so I passed over the complaint of the professor who was not used to questions as he had no answers.

I hate force and intimidation, and believing in luck and chance and making it required reading like pro-suicide.

But the rest of the students for the most part, yielded to the pressure, as they wanted jobs as biologists, and so HAD to believe the dogmas presently to them by the high priest of evolution. And it was all by FAITH, they had no evidence...and to it is absolutely ludicrous to even consider sex of male and females simultaneously developed in unity to make sexual union productive. Absolutely ludicrous and downright insane... But when people are forced to believe, they many times just yield to their masters and controllers.

[Davidjayjordan]

But God is ok with incest, right?

No, http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/IncestisBiblicallyWrong.html

But lets back to the topic and not go off in tangents.

This thread is about the Creator of Sex.....

[Achán hiNidráne]

No thought patterns worth responding to, maybe it is because you are so negative you have no sex life, and therefore aren;t concerned who made sexuality....


I don't know, I hear those parties at TAM can get pretty wild.

[temporalillusion]

Yes, they attempted to FORCE evolution on me in UNIVERSITY, but it made no sense, and they had no answers and the professor got rather upset and so tried to fail me, but I knew my biology and could explain it competantly to the dean, and so I passed over the complaint of the professor who was not used to questions as he had no answers.

Interesting. What exactly was it that made no sense and you explained to the Dean (convenient that the Dean knew biology too!)?

[Davidjayjordan]

Why do you say "Jesus created sex" rather than "God created sex"? I mean, in your bible it says "god created the heavens and the earth," not "Jesus created the heavens and the earth." What's up with that?

God is a generic term, as even we are gods in a sense...... small g, if we receive HIM.



Jhn 10:35 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn010.html#35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

The Word of God is Jesus, he is the living Word not just the written word which can be evaded.

He is the Great I AM of the Old testament, and if you like he is the One Moses saw on the Mount, and who returned to be with Jesus on the Mount of transfiguration.

Jesus was God and is God..and the three are ONE. he is the EVERLASTING FATHER as scriptures say...

http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/k9.gif (http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Isa/9/6.html)http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/c9.gif (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/c.pl?book=Isa&chapter=9&verse=6&version=KJV#6)http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/l9.gif (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Isa&chapter=9&verse=6&version=KJV#6)
http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/i_hymns9.gif (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/images.pl?book=Isa&chapter=9&verse=6&version=KJV#6)http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/v9.gif (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/versions.pl?book=Isa&chapter=9&verse=6&version=KJV#6)http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/d9.gif (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/d.pl?book=Isa&chapter=9&verse=6&version=KJV#6)
Isa 9:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Isa&chapter=9&verse=6&version=kjv#6)For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

[Achán hiNidráne]

Yes, they attempted to FORCE evolution on me in UNIVERSITY, but it made no sense, and they had no answers and the professor got rather upset and so tried to fail me, but I knew my biology and could explain it competantly to the dean, and so I passed over the complaint of the professor who was not used to questions as he had no answers.

And what school was this? The University Of Fairies, Leprechauns, and Magical Ponies?

I hate force and intimidation, and believing in luck and chance and making it required reading like pro-suicide.

Could you be a little more incoherent please?

But the rest of the students for the most part, yielded to the pressure, as they wanted jobs as biologists, and so HAD to believe the dogmas presently to them by the high priest of evolution. And it was all by FAITH, they had no evidence...and to it is absolutely ludicrous to even consider sex of male and females simultaneously developed in unity to make sexual union productive. Absolutely ludicrous and downright insane... But when people are forced to believe, they many times just yield to their masters and controllers.

So the last two centuries of accumulated data in biology, genetics, paleontology, anthropology and other disciplines is just a conspiracy by those evil scientists to force college kids become biologists, eh? Did they also assassinate Kennedy too and blow up the WTC?

I dare you to make less sense.

[Zep]

It's no use, Zep. The heckling of the trolls is a favorite pass time of many here. Now that David has completely showed his hand, he is entitiled to whatever action he gets for the duration of his stay.I don't give a monkey's dangly bits what treatment he receives at the hands of others here. Really I don't. I admit I've had a bat of his head a few times. Not that it made any difference, of course.

My point is that he is getting free publicity and Google-cred for himself just by getting responded to. We could all post irrelevant nonsense in our native languages AND Ancient Greek (believe me, I've considered this!), and that result would still be the same. So I am encouraging people here NOT to encourage him there.

Either that, or he has cornered the market on pseudoephedrine derivatives...

Where's pillory when you need him?

[Kopji]

But evolutionists do proceed to tell us how evolution through millions of mistakes simultaneously developed males and then females or vice versa, to have all the attributes and successful mating organisms, to reproduce.

I await the proofs of your claims.


Some species even today are known as hermaphrodites, sometimes taking the role of either sex. The evolutionary implication is a simple one - different sexes impart a survival trait that was of benefit. (Probably something to do with genetic diversity.)

So you are jumping to a false conclusion, and one of ignorance, that evolution requires simultaneous development of sex. This is just a misconception on your part, not a flaw of science.

[SirPhilip]

Seeing this board has sexual topics on it, allow me to suggest to true seekers and true skeptics that Jesus created sex. Technically BDSM isn't sex, though.

[Taffer]

Yes, they attempted to FORCE evolution on me in UNIVERSITY, but it made no sense, and they had no answers and the professor got rather upset and so tried to fail me, but I knew my biology and could explain it competantly to the dean, and so I passed over the complaint of the professor who was not used to questions as he had no answers.

I think you are lying. Please name the establishment where this happened.

I hate force and intimidation, and believing in luck and chance and making it required reading like pro-suicide.

You do not understand evolution if you think it is "just luck and chance".

And what do you mean by "pro-suicide"?

But the rest of the students for the most part, yielded to the pressure, as they wanted jobs as biologists, and so HAD to believe the dogmas presently to them by the high priest of evolution. And it was all by FAITH, they had no evidence...and to it is absolutely ludicrous to even consider sex of male and females simultaneously developed in unity to make sexual union productive. Absolutely ludicrous and downright insane... But when people are forced to believe, they many times just yield to their masters and controllers.

Since you clearly do not understand evolution in the slightest, why should we take anything you have to say on the subject seriously?

[Zep]

Seriously, folks - you could be talking Urdu or Klingon and he would respond identically. He is simply spamming while trying to not look like he is spamming.

[Taffer]

Seriously, folks - you could be talking Urdu or Klingon and he would respond identically. He is simply spamming while trying to not look like he is spamming.

I know Zep. For the moment it amuses me. I'm sure that will not last.

[Davidjayjordan]

Interesting. What exactly was it that made no sense and you explained to the Dean (convenient that the Dean knew biology too!)?

Nothing about evolution made sense, from the origins to the mechanism, to its hope and Faith in the future. It was a religion based on FAITH that the universities have forced upon students, for they must learn and recite its dogmas or usually lose their graduation and years of work.

But I graduated anyway in Science using an athletic scholarship as my financing, and went on to become a full time missionary the next year, when traveling to Europe to play professional basketball.

As for the Dean, he knew that the professor failed me out of frustration not because I didn't know vertrate biology. I just showed him my final exam, and the Mark the professor scrolled on with his reasons about evolution being true and couldn't be questioned, so the Dean knew that wasn't science or the proper way to MARK a paper ....just the prof's religion. I passed, while the prof was allowed to go on indoctrinating others.

[Davidjayjordan]

And the foolish HERE go on being foolish, in a poor attempt at wrecking this thread. they just hate progress and a real discussion and so play their foolish card and cards.

[Taffer]

And the foolish HERE go on being foolish, in a poor attempt at wrecking this thread. they just hate progress and a real discussion and so play their foolish card and cards.

Perhaps it would help if you actually answered some of our questions.

[Taffer]

Nothing about evolution made sense, from the origins to the mechanism, to its hope and Faith in the future. It was a religion based on FAITH that the universities have forced upon students, for they must learn and recite its dogmas or usually lose their graduation and years of work.

You do realise that evolution is an observable fact, don't you? I have seen it with my own eyes.

But I graduated anyway in Science using an athletic scholarship as my financing, and went on to become a full time missionary the next year, when traveling to Europe to play professional basketball.

Um...

I am a missionary for Jesus and always have been since University as it was what I always wanted to be rather than what I studied for in University and [/b]rather than becoming a professional basketball player even though I had offers.[/b]

My bolding. Which is it, David? You have directly contradicted yourself.

As for the Dean, he knew that the professor failed me out of frustration not because I didn't know vertrate biology. I just showed him my final exam, and the Mark the professor scrolled on with his reasons about evolution being true and couldn't be questioned, so the Dean knew that wasn't science or the proper way to MARK a paper ....just the prof's religion. I passed, while the prof was allowed to go on indoctrinating others.

All I ask is you tell me the university you attended. That is all, David. It shouldn't be hard.

[Shevek-72]

So Jesus is his own dad?

"There is no problem involved in becoming your own father or mother that a broadminded and well-adjusted family can't cope with."

THGTTG - Douglas Adams

[strathmeyer]

Anyway for the sake of others, who may be interested in how we reproduce, and who made sex.... the answer is Jesus.

Davidjayjordan, who created buttsex?

[logical muse]

You keep ignoring my questions, but I'll ask them again anyway:

Is there a Mrs. God? I've never heard about her if there is. How did Mr. God create sex if he didn't have a partner? Is Man (by Man I mean the human race) really created in His image if Man produces gametes for reproduction?

Did Jesus ever have sex? If so, how many partners, and who were they? If not, why not?

[ponderingturtle]

Allow me to suggest to you the answer why, the false skeptics HERE can not win an argument and can't post a positive THREAD anywhere.


They why are you ducking the issue of King David and King Solomon and all the women they had? What where they doing with them?

[Björn Toulouse]

Actually posters, I have no one to answer, because your maturity level is just too low.



You said that, then followed it up in the same post with this mature proclamation:


No wonder you can't attract anyone from the opposite sex, you have to have something to be attractive.


Wouldn't nah-nah, nuh-nah-nah have been a more eloquent phrase to use there when going out on a high note?


Yes, it is I was a missionary for 15 years living totally by FAITH, with a wife and five kids. Jesus is real not imaginary, I put Him to the test and He works, His principles work. You can base your nothingness on nothingness, I prefer tried and tested and proven. I prefer real life. have I ever told you that before.


So, you no longer live by faith? It petered out after 15 years?


This thread is about the Creator of Sex.....


Actually, this thread is about your claim that there was a Creator of Sex...

[Davidjayjordan]

Davidjayjordan, who created buttsex?

The ancients used it for humilating their enemies, and yet some unfortunately still use it today.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/AnalSexisDirty.html

But the topic of this thread is who is the Creator of Sex, not what are the perversions of sex.

[Davidjayjordan]

You said that, then followed it up in the same post with this mature proclamation:


Wouldn't nah-nah, nuh-nah-nah have been a more eloquent phrase to use there when going out on a high note?

So, you no longer live by faith? It petered out after 15 years?

Actually, this thread is about your claim that there was a Creator of Sex...

Still a full time missionary and reaching thousands more or maybe millions more than we ever did just in person.

Thanks for reminding of the wisdom of using the Lord's internet to get out His truths..

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Goyeintoall.html

What have you done with your life ?

If you believe in nothing, your response would logically be ..... nothing


.

[Davidjayjordan]

They why are you ducking the issue of King David and King Solomon and all the women they had? What where they doing with them?

Polygamy is aceptable, and always was, but the worldly systems make laws against it and of course they won;t allow women having more than one husband. Then again, men and women without foundation can barely handle one, and some, most likely here, have none. Negating everything just isn;t very attractive, mates want positive qualities not negative ones.

As for King david SEE

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/KingDavidsAdultery.html

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/KingDavidsDance.html

Good question, even if you didn't want an answer

.

[Davidjayjordan]

You keep ignoring my questions, but I'll ask them again anyway:

Is there a Mrs. God? I've never heard about her if there is. How did Mr. God create sex if he didn't have a partner? Is Man (by Man I mean the human race) really created in His image if Man produces gametes for reproduction?



Good question even though you probably don;t want an answer but just wanted an accussation. But very insightful !!!

The Holy Spirit is female... and they are ONE

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/FeminineHolySpirit.html
The 'SPIRIT' of God in Jewish scriptures was always female... but the Patriarch church changed the Holy Spirit into a man for control.

[wollery]

The ancients used it for humilating their enemies, and yet some unfortunately still use it today.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/AnalSexisDirty.html

But the topic of this thread is who is the Creator of Sex, not what are the perversions of sex.*Checks list for Greek social history, ticks it off.*

It's become perfectly clear to me that you don't actually know anything about any of the stuff you talk about. I'm bored. You're on ignore.

[Björn Toulouse]

What have you done with your life ?


A lot, but just as importantly are the things I do not do, like muck up the internet with ignorance and falsehoods.

If you believe in nothing, your response would logically be ..... nothing.


Just don't believe in your beliefs.

[Davidjayjordan]

*Checks list for Greek social history, ticks it off.*

It's become perfectly clear to me that you don't actually know anything about any of the stuff you talk about. I'm bored. You're on ignore.

Thank the Lord, he is a God of miracles, as I have almost lost all faith for you. Wolley, you had your chance and made the wrong decisions, and now you just get worse and worse.

But everyone has to have had a chance .. and you did.

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[ponderingturtle]

Polygamy is aceptable, and always was, but the worldly systems make laws against it and of course they won;t allow women having more than one husband. Then again, men and women without foundation can barely handle one, and some, most likely here, have none. Negating everything just isn;t very attractive, mates want positive qualities not negative ones.

As for King david SEE

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/KingDavidsAdultery.html

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/KingDavidsDance.html

Good question, even if you didn't want an answer

.
Then you accept the sex existed before jesus?

[Davidjayjordan]

A lot, but just as importantly are the things I do not do, like muck up the internet with ignorance and falsehoods.

Just don't believe in your beliefs.

Dear Cavitus Rectum, as you have so rightly called yourself.... its almost reassuring that you do not muck up the ineternet with falsehoods and ignorance (and foolishness) Hence I hope to see some of your positive views and courageous stands of some kind of truth in the future.

But I would start by changing your name after that...as right now your self proclaimed name is Cavitus Rectum.

[Davidjayjordan]

Then you accept the sex existed before jesus?

Again you obviously don;t want an answer you want to desperately find an accussation.

Nevertheless for the sake of honest searchers.... Jesus the living WORD was from the beginning...

John 1

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

[fuelair]

Nothing about evolution made sense, from the origins to the mechanism, to its hope and Faith in the future. It was a religion based on FAITH that the universities have forced upon students, for they must learn and recite its dogmas or usually lose their graduation and years of work.

But I graduated anyway in Science using an athletic scholarship as my financing, and went on to become a full time missionary the next year, when traveling to Europe to play professional basketball.

As for the Dean, he knew that the professor failed me out of frustration not because I didn't know vertrate biology. I just showed him my final exam, and the Mark the professor scrolled on with his reasons about evolution being true and couldn't be questioned, so the Dean knew that wasn't science or the proper way to MARK a paper ....just the prof's religion. I passed, while the prof was allowed to go on indoctrinating others.
What a shame I wasn't the Dean - you would have failed for passing as a rectum without a licence - and you never did answer about Jboy inventing buttsex - per another poster. Shouldn't skip any aspects here DJ.:D

[Skeptic Guy]

No, http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/IncestisBiblicallyWrong.html

But lets back to the topic and not go off in tangents.

This thread is about the Creator of Sex.....

No, it's not off topic. If you claim that sex was "created" by God and the bible implies that (which doesn't), then you have to take responsibility for all the sex in the bible. And the Abraham "incest scandal" isn't even implied, it's described pretty clearly, including the "blessing" of a child.

And I'm not clicking on your silly website. You can explain it all right here.

[slingblade]

He's a right nutter, y'ken that, aye?

[fuelair]

Polygamy is aceptable, and always was, but the worldly systems make laws against it and of course they won;t allow women having more than one husband. Then again, men and women without foundation can barely handle one, and some, most likely here, have none. Negating everything just isn;t very attractive, mates want positive qualities not negative ones.

As for King david SEE

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/KingDavidsAdultery.html

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/KingDavidsDance.html

Good question, even if you didn't want an answer

.

On the bright side, I am positive you are a hypocritical, lying, trolling, spamming,
false-religioned WOO!! Positive enough for you DJ?
Did I miss it, or did you not respond yet to the things above about your Jguy and buttsex as asked by another poster. I'm sure your many fans here:D want to know how Jguy came up with it!

[ponderingturtle]

Again you obviously don;t want an answer you want to desperately find an accussation.


No I am trying to determine if you beliefs are not as patently absurd as they seem at first view. Why claim that jesus created sex when it is not customary to say attribute the plagues in egypt to jesus but to god? Why did jesus destroy the earth in the flood, it does not seem consistent with the sermons actually attributed to him.

[Foster Zygote]

Which is it, David? You have directly contradicted yourself.

I find that which he ignores to be far more revealing than what he says.

[fuelair]

I find that which he ignores to be far more revealing than what he says.

He ignores much - for he is ignore-ant!!

[Loss Leader]

Edit: double post

[Loss Leader]

I'd heard rumors about this thread - whispered implications late at night - but I never actually believed it existed. Now I have seen it with my own eyes and I still can't believe it.

[SimonD]

I'd offer to have a beer and talk about cricket, but I fear I'd only end up getting depressed. :(

If you are ever in Brisbane, I'll take you up on that offer :)

[Davidjayjordan]

What a shame I wasn't the Dean - you would have failed for passing as a rectum without a licence - and you never did answer about Jboy inventing buttsex - per another poster. Shouldn't skip any aspects here DJ.:D

Jesus created sex, and the equipment, but man and woman can pervert it and mis-use it. the same as He created our brains, but men and women can pervert its useage or not use it altogether like the false skeptics.

The choices are theirs.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/AnalSexisDirty.html

And seing you didn;t take the time to read and study and understand..

Anal Sex is Dirty


Sex is good and from God, but that does not mean that there are not sexual sins, as obviously there are. And although sex is clean and unto the pure all things are pure, physically there is some sex, that is unclean because of unclean physical conditions, lack of physical cleanliness of the participants, or the method of sex used. For although some may not like it being said, I personally think ‘anal sex’ is dirty and unclean. and not of the Lord.

To put it simply, the anus just wasn’t meant to be used for sex in my opinion. It was made for excretion and waste removal and not for sex. No amount of cleansing or washing can make it clean, and even if forced open, sexual activity can cause medical problems with the sphincters, etc. It just isn't worth the risk in my opinion.

But this isn’t an anti-gay remark as anal sex can be done by lesbians, and bi’s and even heterosexuals as well. It can span all classifications, and therefore anal sex can be harmful to ones health whether male or female. it isn't gender specific.

And yet having said this, I don’t consider, it the unforgivable sin as the church sometimes does. Why, because if it is done in private among consenting adults, it may only be a private personal choice. It might not be the greatest choice, but they and they only are responsible and they only affected. Some people may just be inclined that way, sadly to say. And I for one can't condemn them for a private personal decision. It's not my or our business, in my opinion.

Anal sex is hardly an unforgivable sin, for the unforgivable sin has nothing to do with sex. Rejecting Jesus and His Love and His Messiah ship, is the only unforgivable sin I know of, and that’s only if people have been given chance after chance and still reject His Love and Sacrifice. But what kind of sex we engage in, is hardly the determining factor, and hardly unforgivable. It might not be recommended, and it might be terribly harmful to their health, but if they choose this in private, that’s their choice. I mean, 'which of us is without sin' We are all sinners, and believe it or not, none of us can say we have stopped sinning in 'every which way'. So surely we can accept them as Christians outside their bedrooms, whether they are male, female, bi, gay, lesbian, or whatever. (SEE Can Gays be Saved ? (http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/CanGaysbesaved.html))

For again who among us are squeaky clean. …None ! For even if we are clean physically, which among us is absolutely clean spiritually.... NONE . Therefore, in my opinion we are all under Grace and only standing by the Grace of God from our Common Savior. And we better be humble about our status rather than proud and
condescending to others. I mean all churches have sinners. And all churches have people that continue sinning to some degree or even larger degrees in the heterosexual churches.

So anal sex in my opinion isn't the greatest, whether hetero or gay or bi. And seeing we have the freedom to so many other clean ways of having sex, why do we need to use one that is potennially very dangerous to our health and well being.

[Davidjayjordan]

You keep ignoring my questions, but I'll ask them again anyway:

Did Jesus ever have sex? If so, how many partners, and who were they? If not, why not?

Of course He did, He created it beautiful and so of course He partook in the beauty He Himself created. I mean its ridicvulous to think the dam devil created sex even though he tries to take credit for it.

As for partners, only a few are well established, Mary Magdalene being his obvious Number ONE wife.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Marymagdalene.html

I mean, all the patriarchs had multiple wifes, its only the weak kneed negators of truth that seem incapable of having more than one. maybe its because they just aren't honest, that they are so restricted, and maybe it is because they are just so frustrated that its hard for them to have more than one...or maybe they have NONE which would be a MYSTERY solved concerning their frustrations.

besides, in scriptures the Lord is the Bridegroom and He had 10 virgin wiofes and then 144,000 virgin wifes.

So He's quite the man, and quite verile and strong and wise. Just what you would expect from the CREATOR. That is unless you are churchy or impotent.

[Davidjayjordan]

This is fun answering your acussations even though you pretend they are sincere questions. ... Because there can always be sincere readers come into and onto this thread.

And its sure wise that I had sufficient answers already posted on-line so as to answer these questions.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Goyeintoall.html

[Loss Leader]

Rejecting Jesus and His Love and His Messiah ship, is the only unforgivable sin I know of, and that’s only if people have been given chance after chance and still reject His Love and Sacrifice.

I reject Jesus. I reject Jesus' love. I reject that Jesus was the messiah. I refuse to sail on Jesus' messiah ship. I acknowledge that Jesus' love and messianic nature have been explained to me and that I have been offered multiple chances to accept the same. I acknowledge that I still reject Jesus' love and sacrifice after having been given chance after chance. I affirm that I will continue to reject Jesus' love and sacrifice for all time and will never change my position.

This is all.

[Davidjayjordan]

I reject Jesus. I reject Jesus' love. I reject that Jesus was the messiah. I refuse to sail on Jesus' messiah ship. I acknowledge that Jesus' love and messianic nature have been explained to me and that I have been offered multiple chances to accept the same. I acknowledge that I still reject Jesus' love and sacrifice after having been given chance after chance. I affirm that I will continue to reject Jesus' love and sacrifice for all time and will never change my position.

This is all.

So be it. your choice, your responsibility, as by your words you are justified or condemned. Its called FREE CHOICE and you have made your choice. Your mind and heart is closed. So be it.

[Foster Zygote]

Of course He did, He created it beautiful and so of course He partook in the beauty He Himself created. I mean its ridicvulous to think the dam devil created sex even though he tries to take credit for it.

As for partners, only a few are well established, Mary Magdalene being his obvious Number ONE wife.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Marymagdalene.html

I mean, all the patriarchs had multiple wifes, its only the weak kneed negators of truth that seem incapable of having more than one. maybe its because they just aren't honest, that they are so restricted, and maybe it is because they are just so frustrated that its hard for them to have more than one...or maybe they have NONE which would be a MYSTERY solved concerning their frustrations.

besides, in scriptures the Lord is the Bridegroom and He had 10 virgin wiofes and then 144,000 virgin wifes.

So He's quite the man, and quite verile and strong and wise. Just what you would expect from the CREATOR. That is unless you are churchy or impotent.

How many wives do you have?

[temporalillusion]

Nothing about evolution made sense, from the origins to the mechanism, to its hope and Faith in the future. It was a religion based on FAITH that the universities have forced upon students, for they must learn and recite its dogmas or usually lose their graduation and years of work.

So no details then?

Professional basketball eh? What team and what league?

[logical muse]

Good question even though you probably don;t want an answer but just wanted an accussation. But very insightful !!!

The Holy Spirit is female... and they are ONE

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/FeminineHolySpirit.html
The 'SPIRIT' of God in Jewish scriptures was always female... but the Patriarch church changed the Holy Spirit into a man for control.

God's a hermaphrodite then? My question was about this "creation of sex". Are you saying that God had sex with him/her/itself? It's not an accusation. I want to understand what you mean.

You haven't answered my other question. How can humankind be made in God's image, if we produce gametes for reproduction and God doesn't?

[Foster Zygote]

God's a hermaphrodite then? My question was about this "creation of sex". Are you saying that God had sex with him/her/itself? It's not an accusation. I want to understand what you mean.

You haven't answered my other question. How can humankind be made in God's image, if we produce gametes for reproduction and God doesn't?

Or more simply, how can God be male? Does God have a Y chromosome? Does he have a penis?

[Foster Zygote]

I reject Jesus. I reject Jesus' love. I reject that Jesus was the messiah. I refuse to sail on Jesus' messiah ship. I acknowledge that Jesus' love and messianic nature have been explained to me and that I have been offered multiple chances to accept the same. I acknowledge that I still reject Jesus' love and sacrifice after having been given chance after chance. I affirm that I will continue to reject Jesus' love and sacrifice for all time and will never change my position.

This is all.

As Mark Twain said: "Go to Heaven for the climate. Go to Hell for the company.

It seems to me that rejecting Christ is the only sin in Christianity. They say that a serial murderer will be punished in Hell for his crimes. But they also say that he will go to Heaven if he accepts Jesus on his death bed. So he isn't really going to Hell for his crimes against his fellow human beings but rather for not being Christian if he is "unsaved". In contrast, If his otherwise kind and generous victims were not born again Christians then they will go to Hell. Assuming the killer and his victims are all "unsaved" they will all be sent by God to Hell for eternity. Pretty crazy, huh?

[Skeptic Guy]

(SNIP)

Anal Sex is Dirty

(SNIP)


That's the first statement of his that I have agreed with, in only its most narrow meaning.

[Terry]

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/AnalSexisDirty.html

Oh what subtle use of color...

[Skeptic Guy]

Oh, Terry, you made me click on that link just to find out. What nonsense.

[Darth Rotor]

Let me see if I understand all this:

Sex only exists if Jesus created it, but, there is no evidence of Jesus actually existing (other than the self-serving and contradictory accounts in the Bible).

So, sex must not exist for if it did, then that would be evidence of Jesus, of which there isn't, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Ok, now here's my question: What do I tell the wife later on this evening?
That what you two are doing is cervical cancer prevention massage therapy. :)

DR

[Tanstaafl]

DJJ, how can you not see that you're making Christians look very, very bad?

[Darth Rotor]

DJJ, how can you not see that you're making Christians look very, very bad?
But Tan, he isn't a true Christian, anymore than anyone he addresses is a true skeptic. :) This thread presents a collegial assemblage of fakers, or perhaps fakirs, reincarnating the same argumentum ad DJJ for page upon page.

It's most recent reincarnation is as a squid. Next time around, it will be an anchovy, or some other form of bait. ;)

DR

[Tanstaafl]

But even a non-true Scottsman can make other (true) Scottsmen look bad in the eyes of others.

Any chance we can use that bait to hook a species with a functioning brain?

[Gord_in_Toronto]

"There is no problem involved in becoming your own father or mother that a broadminded and well-adjusted family can't cope with."

THGTTG - Douglas Adams

"All You Zombies" -- Robert A. Heinlein :D

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Again you obviously don;t want an answer you want to desperately find an accussation.

Nevertheless for the sake of honest searchers.... Jesus the living WORD was from the beginning...

John 1

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

[Gord_in_Toronto]

This is fun answering your acussations even though you pretend they are sincere questions. ... Because there can always be sincere readers come into and onto this thread.

And its sure wise that I had sufficient answers already posted on-line so as to answer these questions.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Goyeintoall.html

Genesis 2:
[18] And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
[19] And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
[20] And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

If Adam had been satisfied with a cow? Would God have bothered creating Eve?

[Davidjayjordan]

As Mark Twain said: "Go to Heaven for the climate. Go to Hell for the company.

It seems to me that rejecting Christ is the only sin in Christianity. They say that a serial murderer will be punished in Hell for his crimes. But they also say that he will go to Heaven if he accepts Jesus on his death bed. So he isn't really going to Hell for his crimes against his fellow human beings but rather for not being Christian if he is "unsaved". In contrast, If his otherwise kind and generous victims were not born again Christians then they will go to Hell. Assuming the killer and his victims are all "unsaved" they will all be sent by God to Hell for eternity. Pretty crazy, huh?

Yea, you're pretty crazy Foster, but you can sort it out if you are sincere and sincerely don;t think that Hell has better company than those in heaven. take your pick, you get what you deserve and can blame no one except yourself.

But Foster being crazy doesn't help you, so you might consider some sanity.

But if you have a real question, do ask

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(SNIP)

Anal Sex is Dirty

(SNIP)
That's the first statement of his that I have agreed with, in only its most narrow meaning.

(((((SEE there's hope for any and all.... even (false) skeptics guys))))

[Davidjayjordan]

DJJ, how can you not see that you're making Christians look very, very bad?

I represent me, and I'm a full time missionary for Jesus. Deal with it.

In the End, we all represent ourselves, rather than a group representing us. Groupies and false skeptics have group faith and are restricted. Individuals are not limited by having to conform to a group. individuals make it with the lord as you have to come to him individually.

Most Christians are groupies intimifdated by the church system, so they can hardly be the norm or the ideal. So if I and so many others make churchies look bad, then so be it, it needs to be so. We all stand on our hearts condition. So we all must judge ourselves and our motives and who we love. Do you love Jesus ?

[Davidjayjordan]

Oh what subtle use of color...
How insightful of you TERRY, but at least it shows you are thinking and connecting up issues.

[Tanstaafl]

I represent me, and I'm a full time missionary for Jesus. Deal with it.

I have no problem dealing with it. While you may consider that you only represent yourself, others will likely generalize from your behavior here. They are unlikely to come away with a positive impression.


But I suppose as long as you get some hits on your website, all is well.

[Foster Zygote]

Yea, you're pretty crazy Foster, but you can sort it out if you are sincere and sincerely don;t think that Hell has better company than those in heaven. take your pick, you get what you deserve and can blame no one except yourself.

But Foster being crazy doesn't help you, so you might consider some sanity.

But if you have a real question, do ask

Actually, like Twain, I believe Heaven and Hell to be constructs of human imagination so choosing between the two is like choosing between Santa's Workshop and Thangorodrim.

So how many wives do you have?

[Jimbo07]

I represent me, and I'm a full time missionary for Jesus. Deal with it.

... individuals make it with the lord as you have to come to him individually.

Most Christians are groupies intimifdated by the church system, so they can hardly be the norm or the ideal.


If groups and groupies are bad, why are you a missionary? :mad:


So if I and so many others make churchies look bad, then so be it, it needs to be so

Throw the money-changers out of the temple?

One difference is that you lack the ability to do it on-purpose.

[Terry]

How insightful of you TERRY, but at least it shows you are thinking and connecting up issues.

Funny thing is, that insinuation really doesn't accord well with my experience. But I guess bible numerology trumps experiment in your mind?

[Davidjayjordan]

Jimbo ..... If groups and groupies are bad, why are you a missionary? :mad: (groups of individuals with individual FAITH are definitely acceptable, as we shall be ONE even though each unigue and different..
http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/144000.html


Throw the money-changers out of the temple? (NAH, Jesus is good at that, he has his ways and means. leave that one up to HIM)

[Davidjayjordan]

Where are the evolutionists that want to explain to their congregations how evolution evolved step by step with beneficial sexual mutations all miraculously combing at once by luck and chance to be able to reproduce without forming monsters.

The floor is yours evolutionists. Do state your theories HERE.

[Kochanski]

And now for something completely different...a man with three buttocks....:detongue:

[Lonewulf]

Where are the evolutionists that want to explain to their congregations how evolution evolved step by step with beneficial sexual mutations all miraculously combing at once by luck and chance to be able to reproduce without forming monsters.

Do read "The Blind Watchmaker" by Richard Dawkins. He shows that it's not quite the "luck and chance" that y'all make it out to be.

The floor is yours evolutionists. Do state your theories HERE.

Wouldn't it be more pertinent to read from the experts first, before you start criticizing random people on message boards?

[slingblade]

Where are the evolutionists that want to explain to their congregations how evolution evolved step by step with beneficial sexual mutations all miraculously combing at once by luck and chance to be able to reproduce without forming monsters.


You should know. Anyone who gets it THAT wrong probably hangs out with you.

[Davidjayjordan]

Do read "The Blind Watchmaker" by Richard Dawkins. He shows that it's not quite the "luck and chance" that y'all make it out to be.



Wouldn't it be more pertinent to read from the experts first, before you start criticizing random people on message boards?

The experts are only those that are paid to agree with the doctrine and dogma of the Church of the Big Miracuolous Bang and so are paid researchers and there assumptions and conclusions are PAID in full by their masters and controllers...those in the white coats that force evolution dogma on our students.

So their luck and chance is the same as the luck and chance of most HERE. As I have to make sure I don;t say ALL because some have wisdom enough to realise that sex could not possibly have been evolving in different genders while at the same time reproducing successfully. that's insanity to the max...and so no one that I know of, would even suggest such an insanity. But go for it. That the topic of this thread.

The floor is yours, or call in your experts, or call in your big boys to try and prop up your case for evolutionary sexual development.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Evolutionisareligion.html

[Kochanski]

DJJ your ignorance is showing. Your prejudice is showing. Your lack of understanding of basic science is showing.

Evolution is not luck and chance. If you listened at all in school, and I know you didn't, you would understand that.

And now back to kitties

[strathmeyer]

The ancients used it for humilating their enemies, and yet some unfortunately still use it today.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/AnalSexisDirty.html

But the topic of this thread is who is the Creator of Sex, not what are the perversions of sex.

The ancients invented buttsexs? Which ancients?

Davidjayjordan- I assure you that anal sex is only dirty if you use too much lubricant. If you use too much lube there is a sort of enema effect and the stuff gets everywhere. Of course, you don't want to use too little lube. You have to use the exact right amount of lube so that the anal sex isn't too dirty. Anyways, it seems you have a lot to learn on the subject but there's already enough educational materials out there on the interweb, so have fun!

[Taffer]

If you are ever in Brisbane, I'll take you up on that offer :)

I shall hold you to that, mate, if I am ever there. You never know. :D If you're ever in Dunedin I'll buy you a pint. :)

Oh, and for the record everyone, Zep was right. I'm out.

* Taffer passes on the torch.

[Davidjayjordan]

DJJ your ignorance is showing. Your prejudice is showing. Your lack of understanding of basic science is showing.

Evolution is not luck and chance. If you listened at all in school, and I know you didn't, you would understand that.

And now back to kitties

Typical programed response, Koch. You don't know and so hope and pray one of your white coated priests named evolutionists willl know or understand and be able to explain your FAITH in luck and chance. And so the con of evolution goes on...

[Davidjayjordan]

The ancients invented buttsexs? Which ancients?
Davidjayjordan- I assure you that anal sex is only dirty if you use too much lubricant. If you use too much lube there is a sort of enema effect and the stuff gets everywhere. Of course, you don't want to use too little lube. You have to use the exact right amount of lube so that the anal sex isn't too dirty. Anyways, it seems you have a lot to learn on the subject but there's already enough educational materials out there on the interweb, so have fun!

If you like it go for it... its dangerous to one's health biologically, and surely to their pysche as well.

Yet now, a great percentage of heterosexuals do it as well. Thier choice and their responsibility.

But then again, it is just a private sin usually, and there are much much more important matters like the conditions of one's heart and how they treat others.

[Kochanski]

Typical programed response, Koch. You don't know and so hope and pray one of your white coated priests named evolutionists willl know or understand and be able to explain your FAITH in luck and chance. And so the con of evolution goes on...

Do NOT abbreviate my alias, I am Kochanski.

I do understand evolution, unlike you. It is not luck and chance. It is not faith that drives my understanding of it, it is evidence from many different sciences. Evidence that gets stronger all the time.

The only con going on is the one in your brain.

Now, back to kittens and recipes. Anyone have anything new and interesting?

[ponderingturtle]

The ancients invented buttsexs? Which ancients?

Davidjayjordan- I assure you that anal sex is only dirty if you use too much lubricant. If you use too much lube there is a sort of enema effect and the stuff gets everywhere. Of course, you don't want to use too little lube. You have to use the exact right amount of lube so that the anal sex isn't too dirty. Anyways, it seems you have a lot to learn on the subject but there's already enough educational materials out there on the interweb, so have fun!

Aren't pre fun enema's also a way to clean it up?

[Foster Zygote]

Aren't pre fun enema's also a way to clean it up?

Nothing says "foreplay" like a good barium enema.

[ponderingturtle]

Nothing says "foreplay" like a good barium enema.

To a certain section of the population sure, but for others why is it different from say cleaning up an apartment to make a good impression?

[Foster Zygote]

To a certain section of the population sure, but for others why is it different from say cleaning up an apartment to make a good impression?

:D

[Mr Clingford]

...It seems to me that rejecting Christ is the only sin in Christianity. They say that a serial murderer will be punished in Hell for his crimes. But they also say that he will go to Heaven if he accepts Jesus on his death bed. So he isn't really going to Hell for his crimes against his fellow human beings but rather for not being Christian if he is "unsaved". In contrast, If his otherwise kind and generous victims were not born again Christians then they will go to Hell. Assuming the killer and his victims are all "unsaved" they will all be sent by God to Hell for eternity. Pretty crazy, huh?You use the blanket term 'in Christianity' at the start and indeed, some Christians would say that, but some Christians would also agree that such a scheme is crazy.
Actually, I would hope that if a Christian, who stated the above, was asked to unpack the 'accepts Jesus' bit he/she would say that it included an understanding that what they did was very wrong, expressed remorse, a desire to do right - that it actually involved a change of heart/a whole new approach to life. I think it would be too much to hope, though, that this fundy Christian would say that someone who hadn't 'turned to Jesus' might be with God/go to heaven etc etc.

[Foster Zygote]

You use the blanket term 'in Christianity' at the start and indeed, some Christians would say that, but some Christians would also agree that such a scheme is crazy.
Actually, I would hope that if a Christian, who stated the above, was asked to unpack the 'accepts Jesus' bit he/she would say that it included an understanding that what they did was very wrong, expressed remorse, a desire to do right - that it actually involved a change of heart/a whole new approach to life. I think it would be too much to hope, though, that this fundy Christian would say that someone who hadn't 'turned to Jesus' might be with God/go to heaven etc etc.

You're correct to, uh, correct me.:blush: Although in my neck of the woods the common position among Christians is that only those who have accepted Christ's salvation will be taken into Heaven and everyone else, no matter how loving and compassionate toward their fellow humans, will be sent to Hell, I really don't mean to imply that all Christians hold this monolithic view.

[Davidjayjordan]

You're correct to, uh, correct me.:blush: Although in my neck of the woods the common position among Christians is that only those who have accepted Christ's salvation will be taken into Heaven and everyone else, no matter how loving and compassionate toward their fellow humans, will be sent to Hell, I really don't mean to imply that all Christians hold this monolithic view.

Tis true most real Christians believe in Grace rather than works, meaning that only Christ is good and perfect and only He gets us to Heaven or whatever terminlogy is used....

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/GraceNotWorks.html

As this way, anyone can make it, anyone.... it is just a matter of their hearts condition. Proud or Humble. The choice is always up to the individual as the individual chooses where they go.... not the Lord. They choose .... The Lord just makes it possible for them to make that choice....

As everyone gets what they deserve and want..

For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves. Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and [their] thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ Romans 2

So you see with or without the law, it is a matter of ones heart, as there are no secrets that shall not be revealed, even though false skeptics think there are no truths...

But this thread remains one..Jesus created sex from the BEGINNING.







http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/SexualMysteries.html

[Davidjayjordan]

But for those that think Jesus was a mere man, think again.... for historically in the Bible He was from the Beginning and mentioned almost innumerable times in the Old testament

http://users.aristotle.net/~bhuie/christot.htm

[Gord_in_Toronto]

But for those that think Jesus was a mere man, think again.... for historically in the Bible He was from the Beginning and mentioned almost innumerable times in the Old testament

http://users.aristotle.net/~bhuie/christot.htm

You know, if you bend down and look this way, Stonehenge does appear just slightly dinosaur like.

[Terry]

If you like it go for it... its dangerous to one's health biologically, and surely to their pysche as well.

In what way is it damaging to the psyche?

[bruto]

But for those that think Jesus was a mere man, think again.... for historically in the Bible He was from the Beginning and mentioned almost innumerable times in the Old testament

http://users.aristotle.net/~bhuie/christot.htm

I'm surprised that you should find anything in the universe "almost innumerable." You aren't trying hard enough. I'm sure there's a nice round number for it.

[bruto]

No Jesus always existed So why the elaborate production of being born long after creation, long after sex had been invented, perverted, transgressed against, punished, etc.? and sex was always part of His Nature. What is the nature of somebody before that somebody is embodied and becomes a part of nature? God is said to have created nature. Can God be a part of nature? Can God have a "nature?" Can God be his own creation and still be omnipotent, eternal and perfect? Jesus can have a nature insofar as he was a human being. The bible, though a bit muddled on the biology of the transaction, is pretty clear that Jesus was biologically the son of Mary. Her egg. Her womb. And specifically, explicitly her human lineage, traceable back to the house of David. That's an important detail, consistent throughout the prophecies that foretell the messiah. Without that, you've got a big problem. If he existed before he or his mother was born, how can he have been his mother's son? Putting Jesus at the beginning makes a terrible mess of the Gospels. You really ought to make up your mind. Who and what is your Jesus? If he was there all along from the beginning, the whole story doesn't make any sense at all. And whether you believe in His existence or not does not change the FACT of His existence nor the existence of sex even if you can;t see that either or aren't getting any either. he and sex still exists. I don't think anyone is questioning the existence of sex. You know, it is possible to believe in sex without believing in Jesus, and it's even possible to believe in Jesus without believing that he invented sex. You do realize that, don't you?

[bruto]

Actually, I realize this was a foolish thread to start posting anything remotely intelligent in, and I apologize for falling for the bait once again. Since I am not sure this thread can be salvaged either by kittens or recipes, it's time for the double-whammy:

Kitten Livers with Onion Marmalade
Yield: 2 servings

1/2 cup butter
2/3 cup snipped fresh chives
1/2 cup sliced white onion
1/2 cup sliced red onion
1/2 cup sliced leeks
3 large shallots, sliced
2 teaspoons chopped garlic
1/4 cup Sherry
1/2 cup half and half
salt and pepper
1/2 LB kitten livers

Melt 1/4 cup butter in a cast iron skillet over medium heat. Add chives, onions, leeks, shallots and garlic and cook until tender. Add sherry and stir until no liquid remains. Increase heat to high. Add half and half and boil until reduced, stirring constantly. Season with salt and pepper. Remove and set aside.

Melt remaining butter over medium-high heat. Add kitten livers and cook to desired doneness. We recommend eating kitten livers medium rare. (snipped from petsorfood.com)

[SimonD]

But for those that think Jesus was a mere man, think again.... for historically in the Bible He was from the Beginning and mentioned almost innumerable times in the Old testament

http://users.aristotle.net/~bhuie/christot.htm

Jesus is never mentioned in the old testament. You think an all power God would be able to tell us his only sons name.

[fuelair]

Jesus is never mentioned in the old testament. You think an all power God would be able to tell us his only sons name.
But that requires that an all-powerful, all-knowing dog exist --and not pre-forget about that disappointment of a son!!! And, say, talking about disappointments, that character who started this silliness here!! What a bore!Even for a troll he's just an annoying little (pick your idea of really low lifeform).:jaw-dropp :jaw-dropp :jaw-dropp :D :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :jaw-dropp

[bruto]

Jesus is never mentioned in the old testament. You think an all power God would be able to tell us his only sons name.

A petty detail. But you don't have to be anti-religious or anti-Christian to consider DJJ's idea bunk. It's not a question of whether he was a "mere" man, but whether he was a man at all, or whether he was merely the word. Christians say that Jesus was the word made flesh. The flesh part is an important detail. He was born, lived and died a real death, without which the whole message,, the whole miracle and sacrifice is devoid of meaning. You can argue the oddity of the whole thing, its contradictions and unlikelihood till the cows come home, but if you're a Christian, saying Jesus as an individual was around from the creation misses the whole point. You can say "the word" was around from the creation, and all you're saying is that God was there. The word wasn't Jesus Christ until he was born (or conceived, for those in that camp) . Ecce Homo.

[Davidjayjordan]

So why the elaborate production of being born long after creation, long after sex had been invented, perverted, transgressed against, punished, etc.? ?

Jesus always was...

SEE http://users.aristotle.net/~bhuie/christot.htm

but you wouldn;t really know this until you meet him personnally, to prove it for yourself

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Salvation.html

Sorry, got to fly to class.. or with class

david

[bruto]

Jesus always was...

SEE http://users.aristotle.net/~bhuie/christot.htm

but you wouldn;t really know this until you meet him personnally, to prove it for yourself

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Salvation.html

Sorry, got to fly to class.. or with class

david

The usual argument by URL, which I will not play at. So when Christians use the term "the word made flesh" to characterize Jesus, they are lying? When Jesus is characterized as the son of Mary, from the lineage of the house of David, this is a falsehood? Try to give a straight and comprehensible answer in words, not URL's.

[SimonD]

A petty detail. But you don't have to be anti-religious or anti-Christian to consider DJJ's idea bunk.

I agree. Zeus knows why I keep posting on the DJJ threads - it's a complete waste of time.

Around and around and around it goes, where it will stop, nobody knows.