David Icke: Was He Right?

[Nero]

For those not in the know David Icke is an ex professional goal keeper, football (soccer) commentator and "journalist/author", and Illumanati (sp?) wooist.

I've just watched a Channel 5 documentary on the bloke, which was somewhat frustrating in that it just allowed Icke a free rein to say what he believed in, with no challenges. In many ways, some of his points are quite valid; we rely on too many draconian laws to keep the populace in check, but all too readily he goes off on mad mind crap.

In the programme I watched he sited a number of predictions that he'd made (prior to the events of course) that had come true, now of course it's easy to post predict events. But now I'm being lazy, below is a list of stuff he claims he predicted, so the question is how many other events did he predict that didn't follow through and what is the validity of his predictions?

• "We can predict the power and frequency of hurricanes to increase after the millennium"

• "A psychic message said there would be a severe hurricane around the gulf of Mexico and New Orleans "

• "The plan is to engineer events real and staged that will create enormous fear in the countdown years to 2012. This includes a plan to start a Third World War, either by stimulating the Muslim world into a holy war against the West or by using China to cause global conflict - maybe both"

• "Between 2000 and 2002, the United States will suffer a major attack on a large city"

I can't help but feel this is just shooting fish in a barrel, but hey....

[Legalduck]

These are events that Icke claimed he predicted? This seems to imply that he only mentioned the "predictions" after the event happened. :rolleyes: I can do that too. Hey, years ago I predicted that the Patriots would win three of five superbowls. See what a great psychic am.

Nero, you're spot on that he probably left out predictions where he couldn't twist it into a hit. What's left is just plain unimpressive. A major attack on a large city. There's at least 100 cities in the US that could be considered large with a vague definition. And a severe hurricane in the Gulf Coast region? Considering hurricanes hits the Gulf Coast every year, this is a safe bet. I'm sure that Icke will next predict London will get fog:D

[valis]

These are events that Icke claimed he predicted? This seems to imply that he only mentioned the "predictions" after the event happened. :rolleyes: I can do that too. Hey, years ago I predicted that the Patriots would win three of five superbowls. See what a great psychic am.


That's nothing; back in 80's I said "someday the Tampa Bay Bucs are bound to win a Superbowl". It sounded crazy at the time but twenty years later it came true.

[Nero]

I posted my first comment before I'd watched the end of the program he's now pulling 9/11 conspiracy bollocks, this chap is seriously unpleasant.

[Carnivore]

Did he go into his "the Queen is an extra dimensional blood drinking lizard" spiel? Does he still consider himself to be the son of God?

[thomps1d]

Did he go into his "the Queen is an extra dimensional blood drinking lizard" spiel? Does he still consider himself to be the son of God?

I watched the special not too long ago, and although he touched on those things, he mostly stuck to talking about how oppresive the governments have become.

He did whine a lot about how people make fun of him, especially an old TV appearance where he said that he is the son of God.

The special is good for a laugh, but definitely not as good as some of his previous material. If I didn't know better, I'd think this guy is the world's best and most intense deadpan comic.

[Cuddles]

I've just watched a Channel 5 documentary on the bloke, which was somewhat frustrating in that it just allowed Icke a free rein to say what he believed in, with no challenges. In many ways, some of his points are quite valid; we rely on too many draconian laws to keep the populace in check, but all too readily he goes off on mad mind crap.

While it's a shame that the media is generally far too credulous about paranormal rubbish, this really isn't an issue with Icke. He didn't just claim to be the son of god, he announced it live on air while commentating on a football match. He belives that the Queen Mother, among others, was a giant shape-changing space lizard who rule the world through the Illuminati. There is no point challenging anything he says, he is plainly mad. The media only bring him out for a good laugh, not because people actually take him seriously.

[Darat]

...snip..., not because people actually take him seriously.

But seriously enough that he makes a good living from going around talking about his beliefs. :(

[brettDbass]

But seriously enough that he makes a good living from going around talking about his beliefs. :(

Did you see the size of his house?
He makes a great living out of it.

[sophia8]

He didn't just claim to be the son of god, he announced it live on air while commentating on a football match. Wrong, wrong, wrong. It was on a chat show, long after his commentating career was over. And he didn't say he was "the" Son of God - just "a" Son of God.
He's still a nutter, though.

[Irish Murdoch]

Nero, you're spot on that he probably left out predictions where he couldn't twist it into a hit.

I very distinctly remember some of those from the time when Icke first went woo. He claimed that there would be devastating weather in the West of Ireland that year. There wasn't. He also claimed, memorably in about 1991 (though I guess this doesn't count as a prediction) that Saddam Hussein was already dead, and that we would all find this out soon.

[sophia8]

I very distinctly remember some of those from the time when Icke first went woo. He claimed that there would be devastating weather in the West of Ireland that year. There wasn't. He also claimed, memorably in about 1991 (though I guess this doesn't count as a prediction) that Saddam Hussein was already dead, and that we would all find this out soon.In one of his books, published in 1998 or '99, he predicted that the Moon would shift drastically out of its orbit in June 1999, and Britain would then slide into the seas.
As I remember (I no longer have the book), he gave himself an out by saying that this was only what the Higher Entities, or whatever, were telling him and that these disasters could be avoided if Humanity Woke Up And Attuned Itself To the Higher Cosmic Vibrations. Or something.

[rebecca]

The thread title is possibly one of the funniest I've ever read. David Icke (man who believes the world is run by shape-changing alien lizards): Was He Right? Next I'd like to see something like, "Asbestos: Should I Eat It?"

[Nero]

The thread title is possibly one of the funniest I've ever read. David Icke (man who believes the world is run by shape-changing alien lizards): Was He Right? Next I'd like to see something like, "Asbestos: Should I Eat It?"

It was the name of the television show, I guess it was chosen to be suitably provocative. I figured if I used it for my thread title, it would prove to be suitably provocative on this forum, and help my sad little thread get more attention than it deserves

[Cuddles]

Wrong, wrong, wrong. It was on a chat show, long after his commentating career was over. And he didn't say he was "the" Son of God - just "a" Son of God.
He's still a nutter, though.

Well, I was close. Football match, talk show, watching paint dry, it's all pretty much the same thing.:p

[Rrose Selavy]

The prog was originally on last year - you'd almost think it was a Spinal Tap type documentary if you didn't know the background.

Eg: He and his wife discussing what to include in the final few hours of a long lecture day.
''So shall I leave out the Reptillian bit?''
''Well I think you should''

=

[a_unique_person]

The thread title is possibly one of the funniest I've ever read. David Icke (man who believes the world is run by shape-changing alien lizards): Was He Right? Next I'd like to see something like, "Asbestos: Should I Eat It?"

Funnily enough, we've used asbestos water pipes for years. They are being replaced now, but apparently it's only breathing the stuff in that harms you.

[rebecca]

It was the name of the television show, I guess it was chosen to be suitably provocative. I figured if I used it for my thread title, it would prove to be suitably provocative on this forum, and help my sad little thread get more attention than it deserves

Hey, it got me to click.

The prog was originally on last year - you'd almost think it was a Spinal Tap type documentary if you didn't know the background.

Eg: He and his wife discussing what to include in the final few hours of a long lecture day.
''So shall I leave out the Reptillian bit?''
''Well I think you should''

=

Ha ha ha!

Funnily enough, we've used asbestos water pipes for years. They are being replaced now, but apparently it's only breathing the stuff in that harms you.

Wow . . . well . . . I guess maybe David Icke is right.

[Nero]

The prog was originally on last year - you'd almost think it was a Spinal Tap type documentary if you didn't know the background.

I only came across the programme because I have a Tivo (for those not in the know, essentially a semi-clever PVR). Tivo has the ability, when disk space allows, to record programmes that it thinks match your usual viewing habits. I hate to think why it thought I was interested in Icke boy.

[Rrose Selavy]

I only came across the programme because I have a Tivo (for those not in the know, essentially a semi-clever PVR). Tivo has the ability, when disk space allows, to record programmes that it thinks match your usual viewing habits. I hate to think why it thought I was interested in Icke boy.

All part of the conspiracy, my friend, The Machines are taking over. Do you really think you have any real choice?

"I think machines & clocks have secret motives,


or maybe they're made that way....:eek: "
Bill Nelson -

[JamesM]

Did you see the size of his house?
He makes a great living out of it.
On one of the conspiracy forum threads, out top showbiz mate Jon Ronson noted that David Icke is seeking donations (http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/1772/1772/).

[Ripley Twenty-Nine]

All part of the conspiracy, my friend, The Machines are taking over. Do you really think you have any real choice?

"I think machines & clocks have secret motives,


or maybe they're made that way....:eek: "
Bill Nelson -
Weird. It's like that got triple posted because the machines wanted it that way. Maybe sinsanity2006 (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=1726743#post1726743) was right all along!

Somebody hold me!

[Rrose Selavy]

Weird. It's like that got triple posted because the machines wanted it that way. Maybe sinsanity2006 (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=1726743#post1726743) was right all along!

Somebody hold me!

Yes, I often have probs with the HREF forum site dropping connection. THEY obviously don't want me to telll you the awful truth....

[JJM]

Robert Reich, a professor at UC Berkely and former Secretary of Labor in the first Clinton Administration tells a story. In October 1988 he was on a program with another fellow who urged people to buy stock because the market had nowhere to go but up. Reich said the market was on the verge of a major collapse. Wouldn't you know- a few days later the market tanked. However, Reich says he had been warning against that for ten years. If you talk enough, you will occasionally say something that is correct.

[Liverpolitan]

Missed this and then forgot that I had....not sure which is worse or if it matters.