Mel Gibson's 'Passion' Shakes Up Hollywood by James Hirsen of LEFT COAST REPORT

[billiefan2000]

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/7/16/170439.shtml

Editor's Note: James Hirsen's "


Tales From the Left Coast" has already become a best seller. The new book reveals the real story behind the controversy over Mel Gibson’s film "The Passion."

Hirsen has recently seen the film and details Hollywood’s anti-Christian agenda.


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http://www.newsmax.com/leftcoast/index2.html

[Upchurch]

I give up. I can't tell if this is Christian propoganda or conservative propoganda. Or are you now specializing in conservative Christian propoganda?

[Fade]

The idea that hollywood is anti-Christian is so absurd it's almost funny.

[billiefan2000]

Originally posted by Upchurch
I give up. I can't tell if this is Christian propoganda or conservative propoganda. Or are you now specializing in conservative Christian propoganda?


What do you mean.

Cause a Conservative or Christian says it it is Propoganda.


Then your argument should be that BBC and NPR and CNN and LIberal Propoganda.

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by billiefan2000



What do you mean.

Cause a Conservative or Christian says it it is Propoganda.


Then your argument should be that BBC and NPR and CNN and LIberal Propoganda.

from a lingual perspective, that makes no sense. grammar, it's what's for dinner.

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by billiefan2000

What do you mean. Still can't tell the difference between objective reporting and an opinion piece, huh? Nor that this particular opinion piece is completely politically oriented?

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by billiefan2000

Cause a Conservative or Christian says it it is Propoganda. Let me try a different approach.

What source is there for the statement, "Tolerant "liberals" apparently can’t stand for this type of material being disseminated."?

What is the evidence that Mel Gibson "is being skewered on the "liberal" barbecue pit of Tinseltown"?

Or "Some folks in Hollywood, the media and certain special-interest groups are extremely uncomfortable with Gibson’s latest project, “The Passion.”? Which folks in Hollywood?

"Mel is actually using Scripture as his source. And he’s telling the literal truth." Well, here he makes the plain ol' mistake in assuming that "Scripture" is "literal truth" without backing that up.

"To get attention, gain leverage or create trouble for the project, some in the press have been scrutinizing Gibson’s 85-year old father." Who has done this? Where was it published?

It's propoganda because it is unfounded statements orchistrated to get a specific emotional or intellectual response.

[hgc]

Originally posted by Upchurch
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"To get attention, gain leverage or create trouble for the project, some in the press have been scrutinizing Gibson’s 85-year old father." Who has done this? Where was it published?

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According to Snopes (http://66.165.133.65/politics/religion/gibson.asp), it was the NY Times Magazine, back in March.

From the looks of it, he deserves scrutiny...
Gibson, whose father, Hutton Gibson is a notorious Holocaust denier and who claims the the World Trade Center was destroyed by remote control and not by al Queda; that the Second Vatican Council was a Masonic plot backed by the Jews and that all popes going back to John XXIII have been illegitimate "anti-popes".
What billiefan ought to do, assuming he has any intellectual capability, is to substantiate or make an argument that this was published for the purpose of "gain[ing] leverage or creat[ing] trouble for the project."

I might just as well claim that billifan's motive to for posting on this board is to bring about Satan's reign on Earth. But that would be nearly as unsubstantiated.

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by hgc

According to Snopes (http://66.165.133.65/politics/religion/gibson.asp), it was the NY Times Magazine, back in March.Oh. Well. There ya go. Thanks.
What billiefan ought to do, assuming he has any intellectual capability, is to substantiate or make an argument that this was published for the purpose of "gain[ing] leverage or creat[ing] trouble for the project."And it would make sense to wonder if the son of a history revisionist might not also be tempted to revise history a little more in this movie, I suppose. It's not like there is no relevance...

[ceo_esq]

Originally posted by Upchurch
Oh. Well. There ya go. Thanks.
And it would make sense to wonder if the son of a history revisionist might not also be tempted to revise history a little more in this movie, I suppose. It's not like there is no relevance...
Ah, the sins of the parents...

But as Snopes point out, there's no evidence (apart from Braveheart and Patriot, I suppose) that Mel himself is a historical revisionist.

The relevance is pretty limited, I think.

[Drifterman]

Originally posted by Upchurch
Oh. Well. There ya go. Thanks.
And it would make sense to wonder if the son of a history revisionist might not also be tempted to revise history a little more in this movie, I suppose. It's not like there is no relevance...

Mel Gibson has already attempted more than a little historical revisionism with Braveheart, The Patriot and his role in Pocahontas

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[hgc]

Originally posted by ceo_esq

Ah, the sins of the parents...

But as Snopes point out, there's no evidence (apart from Braveheart and Patriot, I suppose) that Mel himself is a historical revisionist.

The relevance is pretty limited, I think.
Relevant to Mel and his projects? Not as far as I can tell. I think it's just a case of relative of famous movie star is slightly interesting in his own right because [fill in blank].

[Max560]

Originally posted by billiefan2000

Hirsen has recently seen the film and details Hollywood’s anti-Christian agenda.


billiefan

While it was rather astute of Hirsen to uncover Hollywood's anti-christian agenda, he completely fails to recognize that this has been organized by the cult of the great Cthulhu.

In any case Hirsen will be devoured.

[Jet Grind]

Well I took a break. One of the things I was hoping would happen by now was that spammer billiefan2000 would be banned, apparently he wasn't.

Seriously billie, why do you post this stuff? I'm going to make this very clear.

No-One-Here-Cares

[billiefan2000]

how dare you you Racist whatever dare to DIXIE CHICK me and violate my 1st Ammendment rights?

[hgc]

Originally posted by billiefan2000
how dare you you Racist whatever dare to DIXIE CHICK me and violate my 1st Ammendment rights?
Pillory2000

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by billiefan2000
how dare you you Racist whatever dare to DIXIE CHICK me and violate my 1st Ammendment rights? :roll: Racist? DIXIE CHICK you?? 1st Ammendment right to post on a privately run forum board??? :dl:

[Lord Emsworth]

Originally posted by billiefan2000
how dare you you Racist whatever dare to DIXIE CHICK me and violate my 1st Ammendment rights?

He has tried to violate your rights? How?