Why does the U.S. Mint hate America?

[Cello Man]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070307/ap_on_re_us/godless_dollars

An unknown number of the new dollar coins were struck without the motto "In God We Trust". Someone notify O'Reilly, because the "Culture War" looks like it's heating up! :D

[wahrheit]

"The first one sold for $600 before everyone knew how common they actually were," he said. "They're going for around $40 to $60 on eBay now, and they'll probably settle in the $50 range."

That's good news, actually. An atheist dollar worth $50 godly ones :)

[Quad4_72]

How did they not get struck with the motto?

[Spindrift]

The new dollar coins have the motto on the edge not on one of the faces.

I guess some missed that step.

[Mercutio]

How did they not get struck with the motto?

They checked "none of the above".

Other coins will be struck with "Allahu Akbar", "Hari Krishna", "Thor Rules", "A Toast To Bacchus", and "This Coin Protected By The Touch Of His Noodly Appendage".

There are contests, similar to the artistic ones for choosing what will be engraved on the backs. I have been trying to garner support for a limerick-themed one, but it was rejected for lack of an identifiable deity.

[The Painter]

I don’t think it was a mistake. I think they did it on purpose. It’s called marketing.

[Crossbow]

Ugh!

Below is one of those stupid e-mail chain letters that I recieved at my work e-mail yesterday. I wrote back asking the Sender to stop sending me such e-mails.



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DON’T USE THE NEW DOLLAR UNLESS YOU WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE “IN GOD WE TRUST “ OFF ALL OUR MONEY!

IT’S TIME WE ALL STOOD UP AND SAID “THIS IS ENOUGH!” THIS IS OUR COUNTRY….A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY AND WE WANT TO HONOR OUR GOD.



IF OTHERS DON’T LIKE IT….LET THEM GO BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY AND HONOR THEIR OWN GOD THERE.

THIS IS OUR WAY…OUR RELIGION….OUR COUNTRY… AND WE ARE GOING TO KEEP IT THAT WAY….YOU CANT TAKE OUR GOD, OUR COUNTRY AND MAKE IT YOURS….IT BELONGS TO US….PROUD AMERICANS THAT LOVE JESUS CHRIST









NEW DOLLAR COIN ( DOES NOT HAVE IN GOD WE TRUST) TELL THEM

TO STICK THEM!!!!!






This new coin came out this month. The U.S. Mint hopes the redesigned $1 coin will win acceptance with consumers.







It does not have In God We Trust on it. Another way of leaving God out.

Send this on and let consumers decide if it will win acceptance or not.



Lets just keep spending our paper money forget the new coin

[Thanz]

Ugh!

Below is one of those stupid e-mail chain letters that I recieved at my work e-mail yesterday. I wrote back asking the Sender to stop sending me such e-mails.

Am I the only one who now can't get the stupid John Mellencamp/GM commercial song out of their head after reading that chain letter?

[The Painter]

Ugh!

Below is one of those stupid e-mail chain letters that I recieved at my work e-mail yesterday. I wrote back asking the Sender to stop sending me such e-mails.


At least they didn't tell you to send it to 10 people so you could receive a miracle.;)

[Cello Man]

Am I the only one who now can't get the stupid John Mellencamp/GM commercial song out of their head after reading that chain letter?

Ugh. That commericial that might as well have the tagline, "You know who doesn't buy American trucks? Al Qaeda."

[Beerina]

I don’t think it was a mistake. I think they did it on purpose. It’s called marketing.

I believe there was a case a couple of years ago where mint workers deliberately mucked up some coins, then tried to smuggle them out.

Nice try, guys!

[KingMerv00]

As a Philadelphian, I am quite proud of our mint.

[This Guy]

How did they not get struck with the motto?

Maybe it was a miracle!





;)

[neon]

Too bad they caught it. ;)

[zakur]

U.S. Mint Apologizes for "Godless Dollar" Coin Release (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/3/8/82111/67504)
Philadelphia, PA (Rotters) - US mint spokesperson Becky Bailey today confirmed that well over 50,000 of the new United States dollar coins had been struck in error with the face of founding father George Washington replaced by that of right wing pundit Ann Coulter. In addition, the coins were struck with the traditional edge inscription "In God We Trust" replaced with "In Ann We Trust"...

[fuelair]

zakur
Illuminator




U.S. Mint Apologizes for "Godless Dollar" Coin Release

Quote:
Philadelphia, PA (Rotters) - US mint spokesperson Becky Bailey today confirmed that well over 50,000 of the new United States dollar coins had been struck in error with the face of founding father George Washington replaced by that of right wing pundit Ann Coulter. In addition, the coins were struck with the traditional edge inscription "In God We Trust" replaced with "In Ann We Trust"... (end quote)


To be called the C888 Dollar as part of the "Coins for C888s" program I assume - honoring the current biggest one! Great marketing!! Right wing nut jobs should eat this one up!! (pun intended)

[tsg]

"The United States Mint understands the importance of the inscriptions 'In God We Trust' and 'E Pluribus Unum' as well as the mint mark and year on U.S. coinage. We take this matter seriously," the statement said.

God Bless Freedom of Religion!

[UnrepentantSinner]

I don’t think it was a mistake. I think they did it on purpose. It’s called marketing.

The Mint won't really make any money from collectors who like error coins as they'd have to be released to banks before making their way to coin shows/eBay. The prices for error coins are going to be the same if purchased directly from the mint.

If you meant raising awareness of the new dollar coins, well, I suppose it's possible.

[Schneibster]

They don't hate America, they hate jebus.

[Kopji]

In appreciation of the sensitivity of offended believers, I will be happy to trade a normal dollar for any godless ones.

[Bluegill]

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/11531301/

I originally hated the idea of the new Presidential series, because I don’t want the Presidents on our coins to begin with. Nixon. What are they thinking?

But I think I might use them as much as possible, just to torque off people like Troy Thoreson, quoted from the link:



"I thought it was a slick move by the government to take it step-by-step but eventually not have 'In God We Trust' on the front or back of any coin," Troy Thoreson, president of Thoreson Numismatics in Los Banos, Calif., told Cybercast News Service on Thursday.

"When this story first started to develop from the U.S. Mint, I could see the writing on the wall," said Thoreson, whose primary expertise is in dealing with modern coins.


As Cybercast News Service reported earlier, the Thomas More Law Center, a national public interest law firm, is urging Americans to avoid using the presidential dollar coins altogether.

"It is astounding that Congress has effectively done what atheist litigants have been unsuccessfully trying to do for years - erase all reference to God from our money," said Richard Thompson, president and chief counsel of the Law Center.

"And if you're a collector, you just need three of these coins: one with the inscription printed properly, one with the inscription accidentally printed upside-down and one of those that have no inscription at all," Thoreson added. "Get your one example of each and take the rest back down to the bank."

The man sounds like an idiot. I am a coin collector, and it’s been my experience that the hobby is absolutely rife with right-wing reactionaries and fundamentalists.

In addition, the comment about collecting edge inscriptions “accidentally printed upside down” is moronic, especially considering that this Thoreson guy is a coin dealer. There is no right-side-up for the edge inscription; the coins are fed through randomly, so there should be equal numbers of each.

I think the new coins are pretty, but I don’t like the theme. I won’t be collecting them, but I will be gladly using them if I keep hearing fundies spouting off about them.

[webfusion]

There is no right-side-up for the edge inscription; the coins are fed through randomly, so there should be equal numbers of each.

Evidence?

[Regnad Kcin]

As Cybercast News Service reported earlier, the Thomas More Law Center, a national public interest law firm, is urging Americans to avoid using the presidential dollar coins altogether.

"It is astounding that Congress has effectively done what atheist litigants have been unsuccessfully trying to do for years - erase all reference to God from our money," said Richard Thompson, president and chief counsel of the Law Center.Y'know, sometimes words are simply insufficient to articulate certain levels of inanity.

[geni]

YEt despite liveing in a country with a state religion there is a slight lack of a mention og god on my money.

[geni]

Ugh. That commericial that might as well have the tagline, "You know who doesn't buy American trucks? Al Qaeda."

True but only because after kicking around someone of the harshest combat zones on the planet for a few years you really start to appreaciate the reliability of the Toyota Hilux.

[Magyar]

Just a quick question.

I tougth I'd see how much are people asking for them on ebay - that's crazy.
Here is a link to one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-ONE-DOLLAR-COIN-WITH-IN-GOD-WE-TRUST-UPSIDE-DOWN_W0QQitemZ300089448925QQcategoryZ523QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

If you look at the large pic, you can clearly see thew work trust on the edge of the coin! Is it just that they put it somewhere else other than usual and people don't know, or has this been confirmed by the US mint? Or is this seller just doint the usual ebay scam?

Just asking

[Bluegill]

Evidence?

News Story (http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/031007/met_8521499.shtml)

As one might expect, eBay and other auction sites are also filled with what might charitably be called traps for the unwary, from auctions featuring "upside down" lettering (when the lettering is applied, it is done randomly and can face either direction) to the individual selling a Washington dollar that is completely blank on both sides.

<- that's my evidence, but it is problematic. For one thing, a "dollar that is completely blank on both side" could be a legitimate error, as blank planchets do sometimes escape the mint, and are popular errors to collect. So I don't know if whoever wrote this article knows what they are talking about, either.

My original comment was based on discussions at numismatic forums. I'd seen various people describe the edge-inscription process. Although much of the information is speculative, since the Mint isn't always forthcoming about the manufacturing process (and is much, much less forthcoming about how errors occur), there seems to be widespread agreement that after the obverse and reverse are stamped, they are fed into a different device that stamps the edges. In this second step, the coins are fed through without regard to which side is facing up.

If I find another cite, I'll post it.

[Bluegill]

YEt despite liveing in a country with a state religion there is a slight lack of a mention og god on my money.

That is so sad! You poor godless folks.

You can do what I do, and write the deity of your choice on paper money. Thor is king of my heart!

[Bluegill]

Just a quick question.

I tougth I'd see how much are people asking for them on ebay - that's crazy.
Here is a link to one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-ONE-DOLLAR-COIN-WITH-IN-GOD-WE-TRUST-UPSIDE-DOWN_W0QQitemZ300089448925QQcategoryZ523QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

If you look at the large pic, you can clearly see thew work trust on the edge of the coin! Is it just that they put it somewhere else other than usual and people don't know, or has this been confirmed by the US mint? Or is this seller just doint the usual ebay scam?

Just asking

This guy is selling it based not on missing lettering, but on allegedly upside-down lettering. I'd say don't walk, but run, from this sort of scam. I have three W. dollars in my pocket right now, and I just pulled them out to check. Two are "upside down" and one is "right side up." Ooooh, and my Sacagawea dollar is missing its edge lettering!;)

[gtc]

YEt despite liveing in a country with a state religion there is a slight lack of a mention og god on my money.

Actually, there is.

UK coins say:

D.G.REG.F.D

[geni]

Actually, there is.

UK coins say:

D.G.REG.F.D

Well close I was looking at a £2 coin so not quite so abrevated. However given that the faith in this case would be CofE I'm not sure the god bit is meant to come in.

[webfusion]

I have yet to actually see one of these new coins.

Bluegill's anecdotal evidence is sufficiently clear, about the imprinted edges being randomly oriented. Thank you for the replies which indicate this is a normal minting process.

It is funny, indeed, that eBay auctions are offering these to the public.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250094729025