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athon

18th August 2003, 02:11 AM

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
While I'm totally not discounting the 'guessing' option, I still don't think it is valid. Ladybrooke is not a prominant part of Belfast, and there are other cities that would have been more obvious to refer to.

It's very likely, here is why. Luci just wrote "Ladybrook." at the end of one of his posts with NO references to it. It wasn't a sentence, and it didn't have anything to do with the post or conversation. Therefore, if something happened to a ladybrook, or in ladybrook.. lucky has "made a prediction". But, if nothing happened, most people will have forgotten the word was ever typed, and if someone asked why the word was typed, an evasion would come. It's the art of not making a prediction, Lucky did not make a prediction of any sort, he just typed one word. bellfast.

Sorry, the whole guessing thing does not wash with me, not unless all other options have been explored. If it was 'New York', or 'Indonesia', I'd agree. But Ladybrooke has no relevance to anything.

Here's another example - I put the word 'aardvark' at the end of my post. The word is 'going through my head', as it is. If I want to 'guess' a significant event that will include an animal (e.g., next cloning, an escapee from the zoo...non-specific), why choose an aardvark? I would say 'mouse', or 'monkey' - something that would be more certain to get a hit.

I feel a little embarrassed by the behaviour here. Everybody is trying to bash a reason home without any regards to its validity. Could it be a guess? Sure - but while Luci did not stipulate what the word was in relation to (I'd imagine it would make it seem a little more esoteric, give it more of a mystery factor, but that's just my opinion), it was still too precise to be a good guess.

How big is Ladybrooke? How many towns that size are there throughout the world? Conservatively, a few tens of thousands? Narrow it down to world hotspots, and you might have - what? - a couple of thousand? Compare this with how many news reports mentioned a town that size or bigger. Let's say significant items, maybe twenty. And this one word was picked out of nowhere as a guess? Twenty news stories mentioning Ladybrooke sized towns out of thousands of possible towns...you do the maths.

Also consider that I've never seen Luci just write random words (otherwise I would agree, lucky guess).

Come on folks, where's the critical analysis?

I still say there must be other considerations more likely. Could a post be generated, posted, edited and sat on for an hour, and then re-posted?

Athon

athon

18th August 2003, 02:21 AM

OK, this is my guess.

I posted my last post at '9:11', Randi Time. I edited it one minute later, sat on it for five minutes, edited it, and reposted. No mentioned of 'edited' came up, and the old time remains.

I propose that unless Luci can state otherwise, it is more likely that the post was made at the time mentioned, sent to edit within two minutes, was left in edit while a significant news story was found an hour later, the word was added (with a single word to make it seem like it was just a word to quickly write down - Hell, I'm a writer, and if I wanted a psychic to seem mysterious, this is what I would do) and reposted, without any sign of it. Occham's Razor would mean it is more likely this happened than Luci has access to a field of hereto unstudied field of physics and biology.

I tested it then on a small scale, and it seems feasible.

Anybody with more time on their hands can try a full scale version.

Now, unless somebody saw the word within that hour, I feel my case can be rested.

Athon

thaiboxerken

18th August 2003, 07:22 AM

Sorry, the whole guessing thing does not wash with me, not unless all other options have been explored. If it was 'New York', or 'Indonesia', I'd agree. But Ladybrooke has no relevance to anything.

That's the point! If NOTHING happened, no one would even be asking about ladybrook. Heck, many of us had to go back through this post to see what the hell Luci was talking about when he claimed ladybrook. It was an insignificant word at the end of a post, until Lucky found some kind of significance for it. It might now wash with you, but many others here agree with my "nonprediction" hypothesis.

Here's another example - I put the word 'aardvark' at the end of my post. The word is 'going through my head', as it is. If I want to 'guess' a significant event that will include an animal (e.g., next cloning, an escapee from the zoo...non-specific), why choose an aardvark? I would say 'mouse', or 'monkey' - something that would be more certain to get a hit.

Yea, but if you placed aardvark at the end of a post with no reference to it, most people would forget immediately that you placed the word there.

I feel a little embarrassed by the behaviour here. Everybody is trying to bash a reason home without any regards to its validity. Could it be a guess? Sure - but while Luci did not stipulate what the word was in relation to (I'd imagine it would make it seem a little more esoteric, give it more of a mystery factor, but that's just my opinion), it was still too precise to be a good guess.

I'm embarrassed that you call yourself a skeptic and yet you can't understand the "nonprediction" hypothesis. It could very well have been a guess, and also.. there are many "ladybrook's" in the world. Just do a google and type in "ladybrook". It very well could've been a guess. If wrong, no one would know or care. If right, Lucky can claim "prediction". You're just not getting it, are you?

How big is Ladybrooke? How many towns that size are there throughout the world? Conservatively, a few tens of thousands? Narrow it down to world hotspots, and you might have - what? - a couple of thousand? Compare this with how many news reports mentioned a town that size or bigger. Let's say significant items, maybe twenty. And this one word was picked out of nowhere as a guess? Twenty news stories mentioning Ladybrooke sized towns out of thousands of possible towns...you do the maths.

Not much of significance happened, really. It was a nonevent.

Also consider that I've never seen Luci just write random words (otherwise I would agree, lucky guess).

It's rather irrelevant.

Come on folks, where's the critical analysis?

Many critical analysis have been given.

I still say there must be other considerations more likely. Could a post be generated, posted, edited and sat on for an hour, and then re-posted?

If no person read the post, yes. Also, the clocks in the forum were not very accurate at the time. It could very well be that Lucky has the unique ability to "predict" an event while he watches it occur on TV.

BNiles

18th August 2003, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by athon
OK, this is my guess.

I posted my last post at '9:11', Randi Time. I edited it one minute later, sat on it for five minutes, edited it, and reposted. No mentioned of 'edited' came up, and the old time remains.

I propose that unless Luci can state otherwise, it is more likely that the post was made at the time mentioned, sent to edit within two minutes, was left in edit while a significant news story was found an hour later, the word was added (with a single word to make it seem like it was just a word to quickly write down - Hell, I'm a writer, and if I wanted a psychic to seem mysterious, this is what I would do) and reposted, without any sign of it. Occham's Razor would mean it is more likely this happened than Luci has access to a field of hereto unstudied field of physics and biology.

I tested it then on a small scale, and it seems feasible.

Anybody with more time on their hands can try a full scale version.

Now, unless somebody saw the word within that hour, I feel my case can be rested.

Athon

1st:
You beat me to it. I did the same test. Also, I used the search feature to examine the thread. I didn't find that it had been edited, but I did see that the next post (by cOrbin) was 1 hour and 2 minutes after Luci's. This, in combination with the fact that the thread clock has been known to be as much as 40 minutes off, opens the door to many questions of doubt.

2nd:
Sorry Luci. If you truly felt that this word really meant something at the time, you should have made it clear. Even if you stated another word along with it like bomb or bus it would have been more believable. Something of which others could see as clearly relating to the event. It's just not very convincing.
:(

Ladybrook....?

BNiles

18th August 2003, 08:19 AM

My last post was edited to add Ladybrook....?

I posted, then waited 4 minutes, and then went into edit and waited another 20 minutes before I saved the changes. No one had posted in the interim, but the post was noted as being edited.

I have done multiple edits of a single post in other threads, but all were within the 2-minute time frame, and no notation was made regarding the edits.

Test Edit after 30 sec
waited 30 minutes to save changes.

juninho

18th August 2003, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by BNiles
My last post was edited to add Ladybrook....?

I posted, then waited 4 minutes, and then went into edit and waited another 20 minutes before I saved the changes. No one had posted in the interim, but the post was noted as being edited.

I have done multiple edits of a single post in other threads, but all were within the 2-minute time frame, and no notation was made regarding the edits.

Whether you posted or not is irrelevant. Its whether someone has VIEWED the post in the meantime that is important. In other words its a two-fold process,, both of which need to be in place;

1) you can click to edit a post within 4 minutes and it will not show as edited. It will still be time-stamped as the original posting time.

2) You can then leave that post in open edit "mode" and (and this is the crunch part) as long as no-one views a post in the thread (which as it is the last one, means your "currently open in edit post" before you then submit your edit, it will still show as unedited no matter how long you leave it before submitting changes. Claus, Thaiboxerken and Voidx can you PM me about this for clarification.

BNiles

18th August 2003, 09:03 AM

That's what I found as well, and why I did a few test here to try and clarify it. This is also important with the fact that I stated earlier about the next post being over an hour later.

Thanks for the backup info.

Lucianarchy

18th August 2003, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by juninho

Whether you posted or not is irrelevant. Its whether someone has VIEWED the post in the meantime that is important. In other words its a two-fold process,, both of which need to be in place;

1) you can click to edit a post within 4 minutes and it will not show as edited. It will still be time-stamped as the original posting time.

2) You can then leave that post in open edit "mode" and (and this is the crunch part) as long as no-one views a post in the thread (which as it is the last one, means your "currently open in edit post" before you then submit your edit, it will still show as unedited no matter how long you leave it before submitting changes. Claus, Thaiboxerken and Voidx can you PM me about this for clarification.

I am skeptical of your claim. Please provide your source for this 'not viewed' nonsense,

Besides, I saw at least 10 - 12 views register after I posted and before Corbin. I suspect one of them was TBK, it was his thread about me, and I posted shortly after his opening post, he was active elsewhere on the forum, so you can be sure he was one of the 'dishonest dozen' who will not come forward and admit they saw that post of mine.

I did not cheat ( I wouldn't know how, I'm not a computer buff). I have explained what happened, if you want to call me 'Lucky' (as per Corbin), then "go ahead, punk, make my day". :D

thaiboxerken

18th August 2003, 02:32 PM

I don't really think Lucky cheated either. He's delusional enough to actually think this "ladybrook" word of his was actually RV.

Of course, most of us, if not all.. would've just forgotten that "ladybrook" was written down.

By his own admission, lucky said that he forgot that he wrote the word down until the next day. Just think, if nothing happened, would there be a conversation about "ladybrook" at all?

It's a win/win unfalsifiable situation for Luci. If nothing happened, no one would notice or care. I mean, one word isn't a prediction. Something happens, then Lucky can claim the word is a prediction.

athon

18th August 2003, 11:34 PM

Well, I'm just going to have to 'agree to disagree'. Ladybrooke has not been an obvious item in the news before - even a small article, from what I could find. The 'significant hit / forgettable miss' theory works much of the time for many charlatans, but only where multiple attempts are made.

Besides, I have to ask if it was a guess, why so specific as a small town? As far as the 'nothing happened' argument, enough happened for it to make a news report.

TBK, I do understand the concept of 'significant hit / forgettable miss', and don't discount it as a possibility. But I just think that until it is discounted, the cheat theory has more credit.

A one off word when Luci has never committed such an act is more obvious as a potential cheat than a potential guess. Why just blurt a single word - in one instance - in the vain hope that it will be significant in the near future? If Luci did it often, sure. But this isn't the case.

Athon

thaiboxerken

19th August 2003, 09:28 AM

Besides, I have to ask if it was a guess, why so specific as a small town? As far as the 'nothing happened' argument, enough happened for it to make a news report.

It doesn't matter, when someone is depending on the forgettable miss ANY word can be typed and forgotten.

TBK, I do understand the concept of 'significant hit / forgettable miss', and don't discount it as a possibility. But I just think that until it is discounted, the cheat theory has more credit.

That's your opinion, fine.

A one off word when Luci has never committed such an act is more obvious as a potential cheat than a potential guess. Why just blurt a single word - in one instance - in the vain hope that it will be significant in the near future? If Luci did it often, sure. But this isn't the case.

It doesn't matter how many guesses there are or were. One guess is still just a guess. Why did Luci decide to toss a word out there? No one but Luci knows. But, we do know this.. if nothing happened involving "ladybrook", we wouldn't be having this conversation. One word can be forgotten, and was forgotten by EVERYONE including Luci.

BNiles

19th August 2003, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
By his own admission, lucky said that he forgot that he wrote the word down until the next day. Just think, if nothing happened, would there be a conversation about "ladybrook" at all?

Yeah...I'd like to know how that happened. Luci gets a "psychic impression" so strong that he's compelled to go out of character. He writes an obscure word at the end of his 1st post and doesn't state to anyone that he did it because of this feeling. And then almost immediately forgets it. :confused:

In a thread where his psychic ability is specifically in question, he makes this "miraculous prediction" yet conveniently doesn't call attention to it (?). Then likewise forgets it himself (?). This , of all things. An unarguable proof of his "powers" in his 1st post, yet no mention, no attention, and no memory of it. Utterly unbelievable. :rolleyes:

KelvinG

19th August 2003, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by athon
Well, I'm just going to have to 'agree to disagree'. Ladybrooke has not been an obvious item in the news before - even a small article, from what I could find. The 'significant hit / forgettable miss' theory works much of the time for many charlatans, but only where multiple attempts are made.

Besides, I have to ask if it was a guess, why so specific as a small town? As far as the 'nothing happened' argument, enough happened for it to make a news report.

TBK, I do understand the concept of 'significant hit / forgettable miss', and don't discount it as a possibility. But I just think that until it is discounted, the cheat theory has more credit.

A one off word when Luci has never committed such an act is more obvious as a potential cheat than a potential guess. Why just blurt a single word - in one instance - in the vain hope that it will be significant in the near future? If Luci did it often, sure. But this isn't the case.

Athon

Considering Luci's history of dishonest and fraudulent behaviour on this board, I would bet heavily on the cheat theory.
Luci has given us no reason in the past to believe or trust anything she says.

And now, suddenly, we are supposed to be amazed by a paranormal occurence on a message board with a history of time stamp malfunctions.
Sorry Luci, but even if your experience can be attributed to psi, this is hardly a scientific venue and your demands that others believe your claims is just further evidence of your naivety and your constant need to be given a "free ride."

Nice try, but you lose again.

Chupacabras

19th August 2003, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
... After reading the context of his postsm and from my own experiences with psiriony I had warned him that it was possible he was being used as a 'medium'.

After reading the context of his posts and from my own experiences with psirony, I think this guy KNEW :hit: what was going to happen! :hit:

(I love the hammer. Thanks for showing it to me, btw)

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
... After the event took place, I heard from him no more:

Maybe because the guy was KILLED while piloting one of those planes :hit: Do I get an "A"? Atta or something?

Luci, the simplest explanation of all :hit: is that you correspond with terrorists:hit:

Save yourself the crying about this statement of mine and tell me what I am showing in front of my monitor (tip: it is either on my front or my rear).

:hit: :hit: :hit:

(Man, is that hammer good) :)

Lothian

20th August 2003, 02:16 AM

juninho

20th August 2003, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
I don't really think Lucky cheated either. He's delusional enough to actually think this "ladybrook" word of his was actually RV.

Sorry, TBK, but must disagree with you on this one. To paraphrase a certain individual "the data speaks for itself" in this matter.

Lets take them one by one.

1) He/She/It allegedly posts a predicition, the one and only time in 1880 posts that she (for arguments sake) has posted. This in a thread called "Lucianarchy and remote viewing". Do you not think this is even in the slightest bit suspicious?

2) It has been demonstrated that you can edit posts so that their timestamps remain the same and that you can avoid the "Last edited...." message. Her protestations about being computer illiterate don't wash with me, she is a known liar.

3) Why, if she doesn't know about how to work the system vis-a-vis editing would she be astutely following how many people had viewed certain threads. In her own words "Besides, I saw at least 10 - 12 views register after I posted and before Corbin. I suspect one of them was TBK, it was his thread about me, and I posted shortly after his opening post, he was active elsewhere on the forum, so you can be sure he was one of the 'dishonest dozen' who will not come forward and admit they saw that post of mine." This does not sound like someone who is completely out of touch with their "technical side" to me.

She cheated. Simple as that.

CFLarsen

20th August 2003, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by juninho
She cheated. Simple as that.

Y....up.

thaiboxerken

20th August 2003, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by juninho

Sorry, TBK, but must disagree with you on this one. To paraphrase a certain individual "the data speaks for itself" in this matter.

Lets take them one by one.

She cheated. Simple as that.

You do present a strong case. However, with the nature of the "prediction", Lucky really wouldn't have had to cheat.

1. It wasn't a prediction, just a word.

2. People forget, and did forget, the word because it was insignificant.

3. there are many, many answers or meanings that ladybrook could fit into.. past, present and future.

4. this is another classic case of a non-prediction.

So, it is agreed among us skeptics that there are mundane explanations for this "ladybrook" claim. It would be stupid to entertain luci's claim of actually using RV ability in this case.

Both mundane claims are equally likely given Luci's lack of integrity and the nature of this non-prediction.

Lucianarchy

20th August 2003, 11:57 AM

The reason TBK is not going to support the completely unsupported claim of cheating, is that he saw, along with about a dozen others who also remain silent, the post at the time it was posted.

If the claim is that you can edit as long as no one 'sees the thread' :rolleyes: , then show the proof, where is the source for this claim.

Such desperate tactics I have not seen for a long time.

TBK and others know damn well the post was original and unedited and posted before the event took place. Was I supposed to be waiting for a post about me and RV to come along, gambling that no one would view my first post, somehow get intelligence before the police and media, and hope to get it edited, undetected, unrecorded and unseen minutes before Corbin posted? :rolleyes: I don't know which is 'luckier', guessing 'ladybrook' would become a major terrorist attack within an hour or so of my prediction, or hoping all the factors above would come together and find some secret way of editing a post without anyone detecting it or recording it, all dujring a busy time of the forum and when at *least* 10-12 people viewed the thread between my posting and Corbin's. :rolleyes:

thaiboxerken

20th August 2003, 12:45 PM

The reason TBK is not going to support the completely unsupported claim of cheating, is that he saw, along with about a dozen others who also remain silent, the post at the time it was posted.

Is that what you are getting with your telekinetic RV powers? Well, that's not the reason, I simply don't think cheating is necessary to make non-predictions. I honestly don't remember if I saw "ladybrook" or not.

If the claim is that you can edit as long as no one 'sees the thread' :rolleyes: , then show the proof, where is the source for this claim.

It's been shown to be true that one can edit a post as long as no person reads it.

Such desperate tactics I have not seen for a long time.

They aren't desperate tactics, they are reasoned and well thought out explanations for your trick. I don't agree with them that you must've cheated, but I do agree that you did not show RV powers in any way, shape or form.

TBK and others know damn well the post was original and unedited and posted before the event took place.

Actually, I don't. Are you claiming to read my mind now? I don't remember if "ladybrook" was in the original post or not. I certainly don't remember seeing it. This could be because the word was insignificant at the time, or you placed it there after seeing something on the news about ladybrook.

Was I supposed to be waiting for a post about me and RV to come along, gambling that no one would view my first post, somehow get intelligence before the police and media, and hope to get it edited, undetected, unrecorded and unseen minutes before Corbin posted?

The possibility of you cheating in this case is very real and probable.

:rolleyes: I don't know which is 'luckier', guessing 'ladybrook' would become a major terrorist attack within an hour or so of my prediction, or hoping all the factors above would come together and find some secret way of editing a post without anyone detecting it or recording it, all dujring a busy time of the forum and when at *least* 10-12 people viewed the thread between my posting and Corbin's. :rolleyes:

You didn't guess that ladybrook would become a major terrorist attack, did you? All you did was type ONE word that could fit into many, many situations.

So, you either cheated or you guessed, either way, you have given NO evidence of having superpowers.

Lucianarchy

20th August 2003, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by thaiboxerken

Is that what you are getting with your telekinetic RV powers? Well, that's not the reason, I simply don't think cheating is necessary to make non-predictions. I honestly don't remember if I saw "ladybrook" or not.

The you are unobservant and since you were on of the 10-12 who viewed it within minutes of my posting it, then even according to the completely unsubstatiated claim of being able to edit up until the point it is viewed, any editing after your view would have been recorded.

All you've got is wishfull thinking, a desperate, straw clinging grasp at 'luck'. :rolleyes:

CFLarsen

20th August 2003, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
since you were on of the 10-12 who viewed it within minutes of my posting it

How do you know that??

thaiboxerken

20th August 2003, 01:06 PM

The you are unobservant and since you were on of the 10-12 who viewed it within minutes of my posting it, then even according to the completely unsubstatiated claim of being able to edit up until the point it is viewed, any editing after your view would have been recorded.

Could be. It's easy to overlook one word that is insignificant to the post or thread at the time. But, you were counting on that, wheren't you? If nothing happened, no one would care.

All you've got is wishfull thinking, a desperate, straw clinging grasp at 'luck'. :rolleyes:

Not even luck, there is no luck involved with typing one word that could, or could not be significant. One word is not a prediction, Lucky, you did not predict a damn thing. All you did was type a word.

This is a test to see how long I can go without having an "editted" message at the bottom.

That's a particularly stupid thing to say. If nothing happened you could bet your bottom dollar that Liarson, you, or any of the other pseudo-skeptic cynics would have ceased on it is an example of my *not* remote viewing.

You are the one that seems desperate to prove to the skeptics in here that you really do have superpowers. You should be talking to a shrink.

Lucianarchy

20th August 2003, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by thaiboxerken

Could be. It's easy to overlook one word that is insignificant to the post or thread at the time. But, you were counting on that, wheren't you? If nothing happened, no one would care.

That's a particularly stupid thing to say. If nothing happened you could bet your bottom dollar that Liarson, you, or any of the other pseudo-skeptic cynics would have seized on it is an example of my *not* remote viewing. By now you'd be badgering '*why* did you mention Ladybrook in your first post in the thread about your RV ability, Lucianarchy, nothing happened, were you hoping for a lucky hit?' :rolleyes:

TBK, I have explained how I perceive and work with the natutre of the effect. I have given you an example right here in the thread which *you* initiated about it. I know it burns you beyond the third degree. Psironic karma's a reality, if you don't want to get burned, stay out of the kitchen..

TLN

20th August 2003, 01:22 PM

Luci, let us know where you're ready for genuine scientific research into your powers. After all, you are a skeptic, right? You should think very highly of the scientific method, no?

Please either answer these questions or state your refusal to do do.

thaiboxerken

20th August 2003, 01:27 PM

That's a particularly stupid thing to say. If nothing happened you could bet your bottom dollar that Liarson, you, or any of the other pseudo-skeptic cynics would have seized on it is an example of my *not* remote viewing.

Hardly, the word was so insignificant that even you, yourself admitted to forgetting about it. No one asked what that word was about until you brought it up again the next day. It's a fact that insignificant things are quickly overlooked or forgotten by most people. You didn't claim to be remote viewing "ladybrook" at the time, you only posted a word. A word that was insignificant at the time.

By now you'd be badgering '*why* did you mention Ladybrook in your first post inthe thread about your RV ability, Lucianarchy, nothing happened, were you hoping for a lucky hit?' :rolleyes:

Oh, I would've suddenly remembered a word that you, yourself forgot about until you saw a news article? You are really stupid.

TBK, I have explained how I perceive and work with the natutre of the effect.

Yes, and it's a BS claim. You have made your position unfalsifiable.

I have given you an example right here in the thread which *you* initiated about it. I know it burns you beyond the third degree. Psironic karma's a reality, if you don't want to get burned, stay out of the kithcen.

Again, you have placed yourself in an unfalsifiable and safe place for all but the intelligent. No one noticed "ladybrook" until you pointed it out the next day.

I understand though, you have such a desperate need to be different that you absolutely will not stop until you convince people that you have superpowers. I think this is something you need to work out with your local therapist.

CFLarsen

20th August 2003, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
since you were on of the 10-12 who viewed it within minutes of my posting it

How do you know that??

Please either:

address the question, providing either a retraction or evidence of your claim, or
state that you refuse to answer.

Lucianarchy

20th August 2003, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by thaiboxerken

No one asked what that word was about until you brought it up again the next day.

You can be sure that the pseudo-skeptics, in particular, Liarson, 'The Queen of The Pedants', would have soon picked up on the Ladybrook prediction in my opening post, the 2nd post in the thread, in response to your opening post about my Rv ability if nothing happened with a few days. Under the circumstances / title of the thread they would have been incredibly stupid not to have done so.

thaiboxerken

20th August 2003, 01:46 PM

You can be sure that the pseudo-skeptics, in particular, Liarson, 'The Queen of The Pedants', would have soon picked up on the Ladybrook prediction in my opening post, the 2nd post in the thread, in response to your opening post about my Rv ability if nothing happened with a few days. Under the circumstances / title of the thread they would have been incredibly stupid not to have done so.

No, we can't be sure of that, ESPECIALLY since NO ONE even mentioned the word "ladybrook" until you brought it up the next day. Many people read the posts, you claim it yourself, and yet not one person asked what "ladybrook" was all about. Come on, Lucky, give it up.. you aren't going to convince anyone that you have superpowers.

Go seek therapy before you become dangerous to society.

PinkRabbit

20th August 2003, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

You can be sure that the pseudo-skeptics, in particular, Liarson, 'The Queen of The Pedants', would have soon picked up on the Ladybrook prediction in my opening post, the 2nd post in the thread, in response to your opening post about my Rv ability if nothing happened with a few days. Under the circumstances / title of the thread they would have been incredibly stupid not to have done so.

But it wasn't a prediction---at least not as far as one could tell. It was simply a single word.

And that word could have been an accident, a dropped word, the beginnings of another sentence you deleted and missed a bit of. Oddball bits of written flotsam show up in venues like this all the time, and no one pays much attention to them.

Hence you had tons of plausible deniability. If something happened, great, you get credit. If not, well, nobody notices. One could argue that dropping "predictions" in this manner is a no lose technique.

However, in the interests of your efforts to prove your point, my suggestion, whenever you're going to make predictions, mark them as such.

IE--- Prediction: Ladybrook

This will give you the benefit of letting people know that it's a prediction so that they take notice of the date and time, and also avoid this argument. After all, if you're interested in proving your point. And I'm sorry, but to me at least, you haven't at this juncture---even assuming everything is completely honest and above board, a single event like this could easily be coincidence.

Heck, I just said Tulsa in the prediction thread for no real reason other than my girlfriend was there, and a gas factory apparently blew up. It's coincidence, but I could make the same claim you are.

You need more than just a single word that could easily be overlooked if it doesn't pan out if you're going to stand behind your convictions.

Barb

CFLarsen

20th August 2003, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
You can be sure that the pseudo-skeptics, in particular, Liarson, 'The Queen of The Pedants',

I'm male, and the name is "Larsen". You have yet to prove that I lie.

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
since you were on of the 10-12 who viewed it within minutes of my posting it

How do you know that??

Please either:

address the question, providing either a retraction or evidence of your claim, or
state that you refuse to answer.

I got you by the balls (of which you have none) on this one, don't I?

Lucianarchy

20th August 2003, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by PinkRabbit

Heck, I just said Tulsa in the prediction thread for no real reason other than my girlfriend was there, and a gas factory apparently blew up. It's coincidence, but I could make the same claim you are.

No you couldn't. The explosion took place the day before you posted about it. :rolleyes:

Lucianarchy

20th August 2003, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by PinkRabbit

Hence you had tons of plausible deniability. If something happened, great, you get credit. If not, well, nobody notices. One could argue that dropping "predictions" in this manner is a no lose technique.

Please show where these 'dropped words' have appeared in my posts before.

If you are going down the luck route, then, frankly, you'll need plenty of it to match such a prediction, in such a context, in such a space of time to such a thing as a terrorist attack in the place named.

BNiles

20th August 2003, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
I don't know which is 'luckier', guessing 'ladybrook' would become a major terrorist attack within an hour or so of my prediction, or hoping all the factors above would come together and find some secret way of editing a post without anyone detecting it or recording it, all dujring a busy time of the forum and when at *least* 10-12 people viewed the thread between my posting and Corbin's. :rolleyes:

guessing 'ladybrook' would become a major terrorist attack

What!? how does "ladybrook" become "ladybrook will become a major terrorist attack"

This is so typical of frauds. Say something long enough and it'll become truth. You're not getting off that easy.

CFLarsen

20th August 2003, 02:32 PM

thaiboxerken

20th August 2003, 02:33 PM

Lucianarchy

20th August 2003, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by BNiles

guessing 'ladybrook' would become a major terrorist attack

What!? how does "ladybrook" become "ladybrook will become a major terrorist attack"

This is so typical of frauds. Say something long enough and it'll become truth. You're not getting off that easy.

Interesting how your mind works. You have fallen back on calling me a "fraud", with no proof what so ever. I have explained how the effect works and the nature of its perception and relationship with consciousness. If you don't understand how lame your personal attack is, then perhaps consider why I was also unable to provide other specific detail, like peoples descriptions, bus routes, colours of the underpants of the terrorists and the name of the bus drivers first math teacher. :rolleyes: Like TBK, you are the real 'True Believers', you have some prejudiced mind-set which somehow defines 'psychic' presumably as someone with a cauldron, a black cat and the ability to change people into newts. :rolleyes:

thaiboxerken

20th August 2003, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

Interesting how your mind works. You have fallen back on calling me a "fraud", with no proof what so ever. I have explained how the effect works and the nature of its perception and relationship with consciousness.

It's all BS Lucky, you really should seek a therapist. Yours is the mind that's not quite working right here. If you don't believe me, go explain to a therapist the whole situation here.

Oh, and he didn't call you a fraud, he simply said that's how a fraud works. But, I'll do it.. You are full of crap.

thaiboxerken

20th August 2003, 02:45 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lucianarchy

If you don't understand how lame your personal attack is, then perhaps consider why I was also unable to provide other specific detail, like peoples descriptions, bus routes, colours of the underpants of the terrorists and the name of the bus drivers first math teacher. :rolleyes:

You also failed to provide whether or not "ladybrook" was a person, place or thing as well as when something would happen or what might happen. You simply provided a word, not even a name, but a word.

Lucianarchy

20th August 2003, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by thaiboxerken

Not only that, but no such terrorist attack even took place.

Believers don't let such facts steer their convictions though.

:eek: Now you are just plain lying.

From the BBC report:

"Police have blamed dissident republicans for the attack which, they said, couldn't have happened at a worse time.

Children were out playing on the estate when the bus was hijacked.

Acting District Commander Peter Farrar said countless lives were put at risk.

"It was a very unstable device filled with petrol," he said.

"If this had gone off, basically the whole bus would have exploded and a large fireball would have encompassed the whole bus and anyone standing nearby. " "

thaiboxerken

20th August 2003, 02:48 PM

It was a non-event. A terrorist attack was stopped. No bomb went off as planned by the terrorists.

TLN

20th August 2003, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by TLN
Luci, let us know where you're ready for genuine scientific research into your powers. After all, you are a skeptic, right? You should think very highly of the scientific method, no?

Please either answer these questions or state your refusal to do do.

Ready when you are...

CFLarsen

20th August 2003, 02:53 PM

Hexxenhammer

20th August 2003, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

:eek: Now you are just plain lying.

From the BBC report:

"Police have blamed dissident republicans for the attack which, they said, couldn't have happened at a worse time.

Children were out playing on the estate when the bus was hijacked.

Acting District Commander Peter Farrar said countless lives were put at risk.

"It was a very unstable device filled with petrol," he said.

"If this had gone off, basically the whole bus would have exploded and a large fireball would have encompassed the whole bus and anyone standing nearby. " "

He's just saying the attack was foiled before it could happen. Chill out.

Lucianarchy

20th August 2003, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by Hexxenhammer

He's just saying the attack was foiled before it could happen. Chill out.

An attack is an attack. Just because someone doesn't kill you when they lunge at you with a knife, does not mean you weren't attacked with a knife.

In this case, gun men hijacked a bus, loaded it with explosives, had it driven through a residential area (whilst children were playing in the streets), over speed bumps ( at speed) targetting a police station.

Hexxenhammer

20th August 2003, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

An attack is an attack. Just because someone doesn't kill you when they lunge at you with a knife, does not mean you weren't attacked with a knife.

In this case, gun men hijacked a bus, loaded it with explosives, had it driven through a residential area (whilst children were playing in the streets), over speed bumps ( at speed) targetting a police station.

No, actually, an attack is not an attack. This is a foiled terrorist attack. As opposed to a successful terrorist attack. Just like attempted murder is different from actual murder.
I notice "UN headquarters, Baghdad" didn't appear at the end of any of your latest posts. Too easy?

BNiles

20th August 2003, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

Interesting how your mind works. You have fallen back on calling me a "fraud", with no proof what so ever. I have explained how the effect works and the nature of its perception and relationship with consciousness. If you don't understand how lame your personal attack is, then perhaps consider why I was also unable to provide other specific detail, like peoples descriptions, bus routes, colours of the underpants of the terrorists and the name of the bus drivers first math teacher. :rolleyes: Like TBK, you are the real 'True Believers', you have some prejudiced mind-set which somehow defines 'psychic' presumably as someone with a cauldron, a black cat and the ability to change people into newts. :rolleyes:

Talk about a personal attack.
Let us not forget that you simply wrote “Ladybrook”.
I was simply pointing out that you did not say that Ladybrook would be a terrorist attack. Yet your post alluded to it as point of fact. And this “alluding” is a typical ploy used by frauds.
If the shoe fits.....

PinkRabbit

20th August 2003, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

No you couldn't. The explosion took place the day before you posted about it. :rolleyes:

Actually, you're wrong. I posted the word Tulsa on the 18th (just double checked), and indeed, the explosion was on the 18th.

Now I honestly don't know the times and such, but the date is the same. And btw, I'm not claiming it's anything but a coincidence, and my point is that one event still leaves that as an option. You may not consider it possible, but I've seen some freaky coincidences in my life, so you'll pardon if I do consider it possible.

Barb

PinkRabbit

20th August 2003, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

Please show where these 'dropped words' have appeared in my posts before.

If you are going down the luck route, then, frankly, you'll need plenty of it to match such a prediction, in such a context, in such a space of time to such a thing as a terrorist attack in the place named.

It doesn't matter whether they have or haven't. It happens to plenty of people so no one pays attention, and for all I know that's what really happened here, and it was all an accident that you're taking advantage of. Stranger things have happened in this life.

Which is why I suggested ... to avoid possibility of any confusion or questions in the future, that you simply include the word prediction in front of your word. Then there can be no confusion, and you strip away one argument that people could make.

As for the luck/coincidence aspect, I have no way of knowing. You clearly don't believe it is. Now if you showed a string of say ten hits with no misses, I would probably look closer, but if you showed a string of say 2 hits and 8 misses, I'd figure you were guessing.

Coincidences are unlikely events that nonetheless happen, thus hitting one end of the bell curve or the other. You've shown me nothing in the way of extended proof that this is anything else. Show me a line of events and might well become another matter entirely.

My suggestion therefore, is that you predict away, and we'll all see what happens.

Seriously, I'm ready to be convinced. Since you say this happens to you now and then, my suggestion is that you make note of it when it happens in such a way that what you meant is unquestionable during or after.

Barb

Lothian

21st August 2003, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

In this case, gun men hijacked a bus, loaded it with explosives, had it driven through a residential area (whilst children were playing in the streets), over speed bumps ( at speed) targetting a police station. Woodbourne Police Station to be specific. I understand the bomb was left there. A call was made to a Belfast news room and the bomb was defused. The ladybrook connection was with the terminal where the bus started its journey.
The twin towers is famous for the twin towers. People don’t refer to where the hijackers boarded the plane. However this is a mute point.

You said This is how RV impressions work, often nothing clear, which is all that I could pick up, a name. More precognition than RV, but RV works across time points.. Yor predicted no hijack, No explosives, no children playing in the street, no speed bumps, no police station,. You couldn’t say if ladybrook was significant from the past , present or future. You couldn't say if it was ladybrook in Ireland or Nottingham.
Yet you now claim to have predicted a major terrorist attack. :rolleyes:

athon

21st August 2003, 02:29 AM

New test.

I just posted, edited within four minutes, waited until my post (while it was in edit) was viewed by three people, saved the edited post, and noted there was no 'edited by...' stamp.

Now, while this does not discount the 'guess' theory, it adds further weight to the proposal that Luci posted, edited the post, waited an hour (accidentally or purposefully, not speculating), noticed a news item on Ladybrooke, added the word, and reposted.

This can be done. Nobody here has claimed to have seen the post with the word in it, hence not refuting the claim.

The evidence mounts.

Athon

CFLarsen

21st August 2003, 02:59 AM

Let's see.

I'm using my own computer's clock here.

Posted at 11:05.

I immediately edited my post, keeping it open.

After 10 more page views (keeping another browser window open for this), I added this line.

Does my post show any sign of editing?

CFLarsen

21st August 2003, 03:31 AM

Yes, it does! :)

I think I know what I did "wrong". I looked at the page myself. Presumably, this triggers the "edited" thingie.

Let's keep experimenting.

juninho

21st August 2003, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

Psironic karma's a reality, if you don't want to get burned, stay out of the kitchen..

Well I don't see how "Psironic" anything can be a reality as Psirony is not even a real word let alone a phenomenon.

So in light of this, what exactly is Psirony? A search on Google produces one singular website. Strangely enough it belongs to someone with the handle Luciananarchy. Nice links to a Uri Geller love fest BTW.

Oh hang-on, maybe this site belongs to another Lucianarchy who just so happens to use the non-existant word psirony as well. You will remember the "imposter" Luciananrchy popping up on the New Age Wackos board, I take it.

BNiles

21st August 2003, 10:52 AM

I just wanted to make sure Lucianarchy doesn't get forgotten here. So....

*Bump*

Lucianarchy

22nd August 2003, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by juninho

Well I don't see how "Psironic" anything can be a reality as Psirony is not even a real word let alone a phenomenon.

So in light of this, what exactly is Psirony?

911 being drawn in the New York Lottery on the 1st anniversary of the 911 attack on New York.

thaiboxerken

22nd August 2003, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

911 being drawn in the New York Lottery on the 1st anniversary of the 911 attack on New York.

In Lucky's world, there is no such thing as coincidence.

T'ai Chi

22nd August 2003, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by thaiboxerken

In Lucky's world, there is no such thing as coincidence.

I like Lucky. That is such a good show.

Ratman_tf

22nd August 2003, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

911 being drawn in the New York Lottery on the 1st anniversary of the 911 attack on New York.

Luci, are you one of those people who freak out when they buy something at the store and get a total of $6.66? When I worked at 7-11 I really had to fight hard to keep from laughing at those people, because it came up at least once a month for somebody.

Beware Satan's snack food.

Ceinwyn

22nd August 2003, 10:41 PM

Lucianarchy:

I don't know how many times I have to reiterate this. In fact, it's becoming tiresome.

YOU MADE NO PREDICTION.

You typed one word at the end of a post, with no explanation for it.

THIS IS NOT A PREDICTION. It's just a typing of a word.

Please stop this utter nonsense. Unless you like looking like a total idiot? Is that why you post here?

I'm starting to think so.

Lucianarchy

23rd August 2003, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by buki
Lucianarchy:

I don't know how many times I have to reiterate this. In fact, it's becoming tiresome.

YOU MADE NO PREDICTION.

You don't "have" to reiterate anything. My ladybrook perception, the way it came to me, the way I relate to the effect, all these things I have explained.

All that the dishonest dozen have done is accuse me of being a terrorist, having inside knowledge better than the police or media :rolleyes: , cheating somehow using an unknown and unspecified secret technique:rolleyes: or that I am indeed, very, very lucky.

All we see now are personal attacks and completely unfounded wishful accusations. That, alone, should tell you more about the state of skepticism here than anything else.

The effect is real. The links to the people, the labs and the science has been provided. The SAIC experiments have been replicated, as per Hyman's request after finding no suitable candidate for error or flaw. The peer reviewed document concerning these replications was posted in the 'Dr Honorton' thread. It was immediately censored by Claus Larsen with the help of admin. What does that tell you? Go figure...

The effect is real. Rethink, be skeptical of what you have been lead to believe from so called 'skeptics' and be prepared for a shift in your own consciousness. Or live the rest of your life to the dictate of those who will happily raise you like mushrooms. And finally, here's something you may not want to see; the 'psi' effects can only be developed if you are a true, honest to yourself skeptic.

CFLarsen

23rd August 2003, 10:02 AM

Lucianarchy,

You are one pathetic liar.

Have you never wondered why nobody here supports anything you say?

Lucianarchy

23rd August 2003, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by CFLarsen
Lucianarchy,

You are one pathetic liar.

:rolleyes: All we see now are personal attacks and completely unfounded wishful accusations. That, alone, should tell you more about the state of skepticism here than anything else.

CFLarsen

23rd August 2003, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
:rolleyes: All we see now are personal attacks and completely unfounded wishful accusations. That, alone, should tell you more about the state of skepticism here than anything else.

You are a liar, Lucianarchy, and you have no support here.

If you do, let's see it.

Lucianarchy

24th August 2003, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by CFLarsen

You are a liar, Lucianarchy, and you have no support here.

If you do, let's see it.

Since when was science decided by votes? :rolleyes:

CFLarsen

24th August 2003, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Since when was science decided by votes? :rolleyes:
What are you talking about? I was referring to your support here.

Where is it?

Lucianarchy

24th August 2003, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by CFLarsen

What are you talking about? I was referring to your support here.

Where is it?

"Support" is entirely irrelevant. I realise it is important for you, but that's your problem, not mine.

CFLarsen

24th August 2003, 01:38 PM

Point proved.

Lucianarchy

24th August 2003, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by CFLarsen
Point proved.
:jaw:
Thank you!

CFLarsen

24th August 2003, 01:57 PM

My point.

You really live in a fantasy world, don't you?

Lucianarchy

24th August 2003, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by CFLarsen
My point.

What, exactly, is your point? And in what way does it reinforce any argument you have put forward in this thread?

No proponents of remote perception / remote viewing in the JREF crowd?

No people stepping forward to put themselves through the accusations, lies and personal attacks I have been subjected to by you and other pseudo-skeptics?

Well duh... :rolleyes:

billydkid

24th August 2003, 05:25 PM

I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but people who claim they have supernatural or paranormal powers are either liars or delusional. Either way they are pretty pathetic. I guess it doesn't hurt anybody if claim you have paranormal ability (with the exception of those who exploit people's gullibility for profit), but personally I am a little offended by someone who just sits there and lies to me. "I can do remote viewing." is just someone lying to you and presuming you are stupid enough to believe them. And the horsecrap about not being able to "view" into a dark tent or dark locker - could you sound anymore idiot? In as much as you are not using your eyes when "remote viewing", in as much as you are not relying on electromagnetic radiation at all to gleen your information about the object, how on friggin earth could it possibly matter whether the locker or the tent were lighted or not.

And these people have the gall to question Randi's honesty? When the whole of their argumentative energy goes into inventing plausible sounding excuses why they can NEVER do what they claim they can do. I don't know if Randi is personally a jackass or not. I don't know the man, but the fact is he doesn't have to dream up ways to thwart "paranormalists". In as much as nobody can do anything paranormal why on earth would he have to? If any paranormal ability existed at all it would have demonstrated itself credibly and convincingly to be part of our reality over the vast course of human existence. I have no respect for people who rather than argue honestly spend their energies making weaselly excuses why this ability simply can't be credibly demonstrated.

billydkid

24th August 2003, 05:25 PM

billydkid

24th August 2003, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

Translation: It's scared the crap out of you and made you rethink everything you have been lead to believe.

Otherwise you wouldn't have even bothered responding.

Does the expression "I am a complete jackass." have any particular meaning for you? Here it is, that long awaited compelling evidence for the existence of psychic ability!!! After all this time, all these eons, finally someone has proved its existence - and all of us were priveleged to be here to witness it! This must be one of the most momentous events in the history of civilization. Let me go and reevaluate the entire meaning of my existence.

Lucianarchy

25th August 2003, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by billydkid

Does the expression "I am a complete jackass." have any particular meaning for you?

Yes, you demonstrated that quite clearly in your last post.

billydkid

25th August 2003, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

Yes, you demonstrated that quite clearly in your last post.

Hey, I AM a complete jackass about many things. One thing I don't do is pretend I have paranormal powers.

Lucianarchy

25th August 2003, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by billydkid

Hey, I AM a complete jackass about many things.

Evidently.

One thing I don't do is pretend I have paranormal powers.

That must be nice for you.:rub:

juninho

28th August 2003, 03:44 AM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

911 being drawn in the New York Lottery on the 1st anniversary of the 911 attack on New York.

That's what you think it is but then again I suppose you can invent any definition for it as you came up with the word in the first place.

Do you know what a complete idiot you appear to be with statements like this?

I'll give you a couple of clues: Utter and total.

BNiles

28th August 2003, 11:45 AM

I'm back after moving into my new house and I see we're still going strong, but have reverted to name calling again. :p

You don't "have" to reiterate anything. My ladybrook perception, the way it came to me, the way I relate to the effect, all these things I have explained.

Luci:

You've stated this several times throughout this thread, but I still don't see where you said "Ladybrook" was a prediction before the word had any relevance to anything. Other’s who claim psychic ability at least have the decency to state clearly and up front that they are making a prediction.

As for all the accusations imposed on you, they really only boil down to 2. Either you’re a liar or you were lucky enough to have a vague word seem relevant so quickly. My belief is the latter. Any random word can be made relevant to news around the world if given time. Your chances were made better by it being an area of known chaos and calculated risk.

I’m not considering the possibility that you are psychic in anyway because you never claimed a prediction. As I’ve stated before. If you had just said something then and maybe added some detail, I would probably be arguing for you today. As it stands, I see very little support for your claim, nor any reason for it.
Sorry :(

asthmatic camel

28th August 2003, 01:08 PM

Central and south London has been hit by a widespread power cut which has left transport disrupted and many travellers stranded.

The power was out for about one hour and the Mayor of London Ken Livingstone said about 250,000 were caught in the underground.

London Underground said the power failure had a "serious" impact on the whole of the network, with 60 per cent without power at one time.

Rail services from major stations including Victoria, London Bridge and Waterloo were also affected.

Two hundred and seventy sets of traffic lights in south and central London were not working for about an hour.

A Tube spokesman said: "There has been a National Grid failure which has affected the underground."

He said the failure happened around 6.15pm and there were a number of people stuck underground.
__________________________________________________ __

Has anyone noticed any Lucianarchy posts about this yet ? As she/he/it claims to be from London I'd have thought a psychic impression should have been available.

Regards,

AC.

BNiles

28th August 2003, 02:09 PM

In Luci's defense, he/she/it may not be able to get online with the power out...:D

asthmatic camel

28th August 2003, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by BNiles
In Luci's defense, he/she/it may not be able to get online with the power out...:D

One can only hope :D

edited to add POWERCUT

juninho

29th August 2003, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by BNiles
In Luci's defense, he/she/it may not be able to get online with the power out...:D

Ah but he/she/it (BTW I should copyright that particular phrase) should be able to "sense" what people were posting anyway. Arsenal.

juninho

29th August 2003, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

What, exactly, is your point? And in what way does it reinforce any argument you have put forward in this thread?

No proponents of remote perception / remote viewing in the JREF crowd?

No people stepping forward to put themselves through the accusations, lies and personal attacks I have been subjected to by you and other pseudo-skeptics?

Well duh...

OK, at the risk of feeding the troll, why and in what way does Claus display traits of being a pseudo-skeptic as opposed to a skeptic?

RonSceptic

29th August 2003, 04:22 AM

Originally posted by juninho

Ah but he/she/it (BTW I should copyright that particular phrase) should be able to "sense" what people were posting anyway. Arsenal.

Arsenal? But I thought you were happy playing with Middlesboro?

juninho

29th August 2003, 04:24 AM

Originally posted by RonSceptic

Arsenal? But I thought you were happy playing with Middlesboro?

OK, that's seriously scary as I can't remember posting anywhere that I was a 'boro fan.

RonSceptic

29th August 2003, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by juninho

OK, that's seriously scary as I can't remember posting anywhere that I was a 'boro fan.

Hint....

He wears the number 10 shirt.....(I think!)

juninho

29th August 2003, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by RonSceptic

Hint....

He wears the number 10 shirt.....(I think!)

Fair enough, wasn't thinking about my handle. Mind you, I didn't specify Juninho Paulista as there are about three players called Juninho who play for Brazil.

BNiles

29th August 2003, 06:37 AM

juninho,

I just noticed your sig line. Great movie quote. ;)

juninho

29th August 2003, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by BNiles
juninho,

I just noticed your sig line. Great movie quote. ;)

Movie quote, not that I'm aware of. It's from Einstein.

BNiles

29th August 2003, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by juninho

Movie quote, not that I'm aware of. It's from Einstein.

Yes, Einstein did say it. It was reused in the movie "Deep Blue Sea" No disrespect...just a funny line in a B movie.

btw...What exactly is a pseudo-skeptic ?

thaiboxerken

29th August 2003, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by BNiles

btw...What exactly is a pseudo-skeptic ?

That's Lucianarchy's and the other believer's word for anyone that doesn't believe in the paranormal/supernatural.

juninho

29th August 2003, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by thaiboxerken

That's Lucianarchy's and the other believer's word for anyone that doesn't believe in the paranormal/supernatural.

I agree on the point that they use the term in that way but the funny thing is that they use this term in the first place when the most applicable people for the term is, in fact, themselves.

To answer BNiles question: I guess that the term pseudo-skeptic alludes to someone who ascertains that they are skeptical but show signs of "belief" in some woo-woo nonsense. Which is why it is all the more psironic (sic) when people like Lucianarchy call people pseudo-skeptics.

BNiles

29th August 2003, 12:24 PM

Then I guess I'm a pseudo-skeptic. I'd love to believe in all of this. Hell, I love to have these "powers". Unfortunately, I require much more proof than I've seen in these threads, or anywhere else for that matter.

(Some psychic out there just said, "I knew you were going to say that.") :D

I just can't understand blind faith, or a person’s inability to explain or prove what they claim is real. I'm not saying that the world is either black or white. I'm willing to except certain shades of gray. It would seem to me that these claims could be easily tested to everyone’s satisfaction, but all I've seen is excuses and subjective limitations.

How Super is a Superpower if it only conveys answers so vague that they're useless? If Ladybrook is the best we can hope for, why bother?
:slp:

Lucianarchy

3rd September 2003, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by BNiles
I'm back after moving into my new house and I see we're still going strong, but have reverted to name calling again. :p

Luci:

You've stated this several times throughout this thread, but I still don't see where you said "Ladybrook" was a prediction before the word had any relevance to anything. Other’s who claim psychic ability at least have the decency to state clearly and up front that they are making a prediction.

As for all the accusations imposed on you, they really only boil down to 2. Either you’re a liar or you were lucky enough to have a vague word seem relevant so quickly. My belief is the latter. Any random word can be made relevant to news around the world if given time. Your chances were made better by it being an area of known chaos and calculated risk.

I’m not considering the possibility that you are psychic in anyway because you never claimed a prediction. As I’ve stated before. If you had just said something then and maybe added some detail, I would probably be arguing for you today. As it stands, I see very little support for your claim, nor any reason for it.
Sorry :(

No problem.

But, you are wrong. I have explained how these perceptions happen and my relationship to the nature of them. This was not a guess, this was a psychic perception of a word which just needed to be written down when it came. I had earlier, (about an hour) whilst watering the garden, first felt the word sound 'ladybrook' as a clear, bright impression in my mind. Later, when I responded this TBK taunting thread, the word again became clear as an overriding impression and simply felt compelled to write it down there and then, and then felt a sense of relief. I didn't think about it until the next day, when I noticed it on the BBC news.
Considering the nature of this thread, the realisation of what had actually happened was to me, self evident. True psirony. Right here.

You can call it lucky if you want, but I know what happened, and given the likelihood of anything newsworthy happening which had a 'ladybrook' connection was extraordinarily remote, then the 'lucky' claim is extremely unlikely. But if so, the synchronicity factor would be phenomenal in itself.

Starrman

3rd September 2003, 01:19 PM

You can call it lucky if you want, but I know what happened, and given the likelihood of anything newsworthy happening which had a 'ladybrook' connection was extraordinarily remote, then the 'lucky' claim is extremely unlikely. But if so, the synchronicity factor would be phenomenal in itself.

I had given up on this thread, but this statement deserves some special attention. Tell me, Lucianarchy, just what are the earth shattering odds of anything newsworthy happening in Ladybrook? Do you really think they are so small that we simply HAVE to rule out chance as an option BEFORE psychic vision?

And look - Ladybrook (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/3159377.stm) has come up in the news again. What are the odds?

Lucianarchy

3rd September 2003, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by Starrman

I had given up on this thread, but this statement deserves some special attention. Tell me, Lucianarchy, just what are the earth shattering odds of anything newsworthy happening in Ladybrook? Do you really think they are so small that we simply HAVE to rule out chance as an option BEFORE psychic vision?

Yes. 'Luck' is simply not a rational or plausible explanation for what has happened. This was a terrorist attack (not a leaflet drop some weeks after the "psychic vision"). The terrorists used a hijacked bus packed with explosives driven through a residential area. It happened within a very short time of my recording the 'ladybrook' perception here, in this very thread, a thread taunting my remote viewing ability.

3rd September 2003, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

The psi effect works only through co-operation, that is why Randi has the "Out" in his challenge, a challenge is not co-operation. ladybrook

IE. You need a stooge. Got it.

BNiles

4th September 2003, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

Yes. 'Luck' is simply not a rational or plausible explanation for what has happened. This was a terrorist attack (not a leaflet drop some weeks after the "psychic vision"). The terrorists used a hijacked bus packed with explosives driven through a residential area. It happened within a very short time of my recording the 'ladybrook' perception here, in this very thread, a thread taunting my remote viewing ability.

psychic vision? Was it a word or a vision or a vision of a word? And where exactly did you claim it had to be a terrorist attack? Or anything for that matter. If the word came to you for the second time, when posting it why didn't you even mention any degree of importance to it? Here, in this very thread, a thread taunting your remote viewing ability; and not one clue or hint as to your feelings about this "overlooked" word.

Ratman_tf

4th September 2003, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

Yes. 'Luck' is simply not a rational or plausible explanation for what has happened.

Yes it is.

This was a terrorist attack (not a leaflet drop some weeks after the "psychic vision").

A failed terrorist attack. How many terrorist attacks, both sucessful and failed, happen every day?

The terrorists used a hijacked bus packed with explosives driven through a residential area.

They passed through Ladybrooke. It was neither their starting point nor target.

It happened within a very short time of my recording the 'ladybrook' perception here, in this very thread, a thread taunting my remote viewing ability.

You did nothing of the sort. You did not point out that the word ladybrook was a perception. You made no attempt to draw attention to the word at all. If this had been a converstaion, that would have been a muffled sneeze.
And one word is hardly a remote viewing. Unless you want to broaden the definition to include anything, and therefore nothing.

BNiles

5th September 2003, 06:48 AM

Originally posted by Ratman_tf
If this had been a converstaion, that would have been a muffled sneeze. [/B]

:dl:

Starrman

5th September 2003, 11:27 AM

Yes. 'Luck' is simply not a rational or plausible explanation for what has happened.

Lucianarchy - first of all, stop magnifying the scope of the event in Ladybrook - it didn't even make the news here in the US. And I will have to say, that this thread is indeed a testament to your remote viewing ability. Next time though, don't just post a word hidden at the end of a post, give the town who is going to have a news event pass through a call so they can clear the streets.

Here is a list of some events since your post that you had no psychic vision of:

Bob Hope dies
Pizza Man has head blown off
3000 dead in France of heat wave
Computer virus reaks havoc
Liberian President Charles Taylor stands down

Any reason you can think of that you were unable to remote view these? Or can you only remote view on the places these news events may have passes through?

Ratman_tf

5th September 2003, 12:10 PM

No, no. The magic of Psirony is that Luci gets to count the hits, but has no misses to count. :rolleyes:

asthmatic camel

5th September 2003, 05:56 PM

A man has been charged by police in Northern Ireland with conspiracy to cause an explosion in connection with the Omagh bombing.

The man was also facing charges of possessing explosive substances with intent to endanger life and membership of a proscribed organisation.

He was arrested early on Tuesday morning in a major security operation in south Armagh near the border with the Irish Republic.

The man, believed to be 34-years-old, is due to appear at Craigavon Magistrates Court on Saturday. He had been questioned in Gough Barracks in the city of Armagh.

The Omagh bombing, which killed 29 people including a mother of unborn twins and injured more than 200, was the worst atrocity in the history of terrorist attacks in Northern Ireland.

The Real IRA claimed responsibility, but only one person has been convicted in connection with the bombing - publican Colm Murphy, who received 14 years in the Special Criminal Court in Dublin for helping to plot the attack.

Last month, Michael McKevitt was also convicted of directing terrorism in the Irish Republic. However, he has not been convicted directly of involvement in the attack.

A civil action has been launched by some of the relatives of those killed in Omagh against five dissident republicans, who they believe were responsible for the bombing.

McKevitt and Murphy were among the five people named on writs for the civil action.

Has anyone spotted any Lucianarchy predictions about this lately? She/he/it seems to be attuned to Northern Ireland problems. Has anyone spotted the words Dublin, Craigavon, Omagh, Armagh, Real IRA, bombing etc. appended to a post with no explanation of why it is there? I haven't.

Yours feeding the Troll,

AC.

Ceinwyn

5th September 2003, 11:26 PM

Lucianarchy only posts to defend pseudoscience. Whenever you, yes YOU, spot pseudoscience, you know that Luci will be there!

Have an itch? That's your etheric body telling you to go for a pint!

Got a headache? That's your 9th chakra telling you it's Miller Time!

Heard a nonsense word? Go right ahead and post about it. When others tell you they have no idea what you're talking about, that's your cue to babble about stuff and then CUT LOOSE! FOOTLOOSE!

I'd put a pic of Kevin Bacon here, but I'm slightly drunk and have more sambuca to ingest. Hi reprise.

Lucianarchy

6th September 2003, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Starrman

And I will have to say, that this thread is indeed a testament to your remote viewing ability. Next time though, don't just post a word hidden at the end of a post, give the town who is going to have a news event pass through a call so they can clear the streets.

Unfortunately, that is not how the effect reliably works. This effect came through a perception that became self evident by being recorded within an hour before the Ladybrook terrorist attack. All recorded in a thread tauting my RV ability. Psirony. You have to be able to first be receptive to Psi in nature. Psi is like a butterfly.

Jeff Corey

6th September 2003, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Unfortunately, that is not how the effect reliably works. This effect came through a perception that became self evident by being recorded within an hour before the Ladybrook terrorist attack. All recorded in a thread tauting my RV ability. Psirony. You have to be able to first be receptive to Psi in nature. Psi is like a butterfly.
In other words the effect reliably works unreliably.
And I think you meant "touting" - "To praise highly or publicise aggressively" rather than the racetrack meanining.
Unless you can predict the results of horse reces and tout them to others.
Or perhaps you meant "trouting"?

6th September 2003, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Jeff Corey

In other words the effect reliably works unreliably.
And I think you meant "touting" - "To praise highly or publicise aggressively" rather than the racetrack meanining.
Unless you can predict the results of horse reces and tout them to others.
Or perhaps you meant "trouting"?

You may recall, Luci only does lotteries. Funny it hasn't retired yet:D

Ratman_tf

6th September 2003, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

Unfortunately, that is not how the effect reliably works. This effect came through a perception that became self evident by being recorded within an hour before the Ladybrook terrorist attack. All recorded in a thread tauting my RV ability. Psirony. You have to be able to first be receptive to Psi in nature. Psi is like a butterfly.

Even if your Psirony were true (which is highly unlikely) it means your 'powers' are useless except for message board tricks. Tricks indistinguishable from lucky guesses and coincidence.

Lucianarchy

7th September 2003, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by Ratman_tf

Even if your Psirony were true (which is highly unlikely) it means your 'powers' are useless except for message board tricks. Tricks indistinguishable from lucky guesses and coincidence.

Not so. There have been numerous, desperate attempts to reproduce such "guess" or "coincidence" by other forum members. None of them came even remotely (sic) close. My recorded perception was qualified not only in magnitude, but by time. My perception was qualified within an hour or so if its recording here.

Any claim for "guess" or "coincidence" for the 'ladybrook' perception is extraordinarily unlikely.

Feel free to call it what you want, but it was, in fact, a psychic perception, qualified and recorded right here on the JREF Forums. Perhaps someone has got some 'crow' indegestion tablets they could lend you. I think TBK has eaten most of them though.

Ratman_tf

7th September 2003, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

Not so. There have been numerous, desperate attempts to reproduce such "guess" or "coincidence" by other forum members. None of them came even remotely (sic) close.

Not so. Many made predictions that gave the appearance of coming true. You seem to have latched onto the FAILED terrorist attack as some kind of measure of how 'important' the event was. But as I have tried to tell you, terrorist attacks happen all the time.

My recorded perception was qualified not only in magnitude, but by time. My perception was qualified within an hour or so if its recording here.

It was not a perception. It was a single word at the end of one of your posts. You didn't even note that it was a perception. Not a hint or a whisper that it might be ANYTHING interesting at all. In order to be recorded as a perception, you should have noted that it was. Either that, or you were just dropping a word and hoping for a lucky hit.

Any claim for "guess" or "coincidence" for the 'ladybrook' perception is extraordinarily unlikely.

Your assertation. I do not agree.

If you had done this before, or could do it again, I might consider it a bit more than coincidence. But your 'Psirony' gives you the perfect excuse to not reproduce it. Good job of covering yourself.

Feel free to call it what you want, but it was, in fact, a psychic perception, qualified and recorded right here on the JREF Forums. Perhaps someone has got some 'crow' indegestion tablets they could lend you. I think TBK has eaten most of them though.

No thanks. I stand by my evaluation of your so-called 'perception'.

Lucianarchy

7th September 2003, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by Ratman_tf

You seem to have latched onto the FAILED terrorist attack as some kind of measure of how 'important' the event was. But as I have tried to tell you, terrorist attacks happen all the time.

Now you are simply plain lying.:rolleyes:

I expect as much, it goes with the territory.

However, the attack was very real, a bus packed with explosives, driven through a residential area. The fact that it failed to explode is a testament to the nature of Psirony in this thread. If it had, I would, no doubt, have been labelled a 'ghoul'. :rolleyes: Given your response, we both know the reality of what happened here, it's just that you are being dishonest with yourself. That, my friend, is only a problem for you, not me.

7th September 2003, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

Now you are simply plain lying.:rolleyes:

I expect as much, it goes with the territory.

Excellent. Perhaps now you will elaborate on the research you were conducting. Also, how do you calculate the probability of randomly choosing a three digit number? I think that our newer posters should get a solid lesson in innumeracy.

Ratman_tf

7th September 2003, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

Now you are simply plain lying.:rolleyes:

I expect as much, it goes with the territory.

Lying about what? Terrorist attacks happening frequently?

Given your response, we both know the reality of what happened here, it's just that you are being dishonest with yourself. That, my friend, is only a problem for you, not me.

You go ahead and keep telling yourself that. I'm sure it's easier than facing the truth.

RonSceptic

8th September 2003, 04:41 AM

Sorry to come so late to the party, but has anyone raised the question of inside knowledge here?

In other threads Luci has claimed this....

But let me tell you this, sonny, not only have I spent over 12 years working for the Home Office assessing criminal cases, interviewing suspects, offenders and victims, in custody suites and on the streets and homes where these people live, actually *being* an expert witness, with thousands of hours of Crown Court work. Not only that, I have worked *alongside* hundreds of police officers, worked in over thirty different police stations, from all over the country, on all sorts of criminal cases, from all areas of specialism. (from Page 5 of the 'Police and Psychics' thread.)

So even if, and I don't see that this is proven, even if the 'ladybrook' posting was made before the incident became public knowledge, is it not possible that Luci got a tip off from one of her contacts?

8th September 2003, 05:26 AM

Originally posted by RonSceptic
Sorry to come so late to the party, but has anyone raised the question of inside knowledge here?

In other threads Luci has claimed this....

But let me tell you this, sonny, not only have I spent over 12 years working for the Home Office assessing criminal cases, interviewing suspects, offenders and victims, in custody suites and on the streets and homes where these people live, actually *being* an expert witness, with thousands of hours of Crown Court work. Not only that, I have worked *alongside* hundreds of police officers, worked in over thirty different police stations, from all over the country, on all sorts of criminal cases, from all areas of specialism. (from Page 5 of the 'Police and Psychics' thread.)

So even if, and I don't see that this is proven, even if the 'ladybrook' posting was made before the incident became public knowledge, is it not possible that Luci got a tip off from one of her contacts?

Please. This is the internet. You don't take these prattlings seriously, do you?

RonSceptic

8th September 2003, 05:59 AM

Originally posted by Ed

Please. This is the internet. You don't take these prattlings seriously, do you?

Good heavens! You're not suggesting that what Luci posted isn't true?? Surely not?

Crickey.:eek:

8th September 2003, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by RonSceptic

Good heavens! You're not suggesting that what Luci posted isn't true?? Surely not?

Crickey.:eek:

[generic, lovable, english country dialect]

Ah, me son, I can see that yer Mum and Dad left a few things out of yer ed-u-cation.

(puts arm around callow youth, directs him to pub)

Ya see, son, it began years ago. We had what ya call naughts. Well, them camel jocky guys gaave us that a powerful long time ago and we did 'em one better. Ones they wuz. Yup. Zeds and ones and that's how it started.

(enters pub, callow youth takes in all wide eyed)

Now, to make this all sensible like to ya we gotta talk silicon. Noooo, not silicone ya twit, thats fer titties. Silicon boy, listen up. Where was I? Oh, yeah. So, 2 billion years ago, or was it 3? No matter ..........................

(long droning as only the aged can accomplish)

Lucianarchy

24th September 2003, 04:14 AM

bumped to avoid pruning the evidence.

This demonstation of one the 'psi' effects remains unrefuted.

Drooper

24th September 2003, 05:17 AM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
bumped to avoid pruning the evidence.

This demonstation of one the 'psi' effects remains unrefuted.

I have only just caught up with this thread. Very imprseeive Luci.

However, I just have one question. What exactly is the event in or associated with Ladybrook that you calim to have RV'd.

I ask this because Ladybrook is in the English midlands.

Now, if you had been prescient enough to type in the name Ladybrooke, which has associations with Belfast, you might have had a stronger case.

Lucianarchy

24th September 2003, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by Drooper

I have only just caught up with this thread. Very imprseeive Luci.

However, I just have one question. What exactly is the event in or associated with Ladybrook that you calim to have RV'd.

I ask this because Ladybrook is in the English midlands.

Now, if you had been prescient enough to type in the name Ladybrooke, which has associations with Belfast, you might have had a stronger case.

I have explained before that these effects come through perceptions. The word 'ladybrook' came into my mind quite unexpectedly and with a feeling of urgency, whilst watering the garden and watching the butterflies. It happened again as I was responding to TBK in the opening post in this thread. It felt right to write it down, the best I can describe it is as a compulsive feeling satisified. I forgot about it right away and didn't notice that it had been recorded just hours before the Ladybrook terrorist attack, until the next day. Call it what you want, but this really happened.

RonSceptic

24th September 2003, 06:06 AM

A Google search for 'Ladybrook' returns 2,900 pages. All that had to happen was for any newsworthy event of any kind, in any reasonable timeframe, which included any variation of Ladybook, Ladybrooke, Lady Brook, Brook, Broke, or any words that might concievably sound like ladybrook and a hit could be claimed.

It reminds me of a Nostradamus 'prophecy'. It means absolutely nothing at all until after something happens that can be retro fitted to it.

Starrman

24th September 2003, 08:49 AM

This demonstation of one the 'psi' effects remains unrefuted.

Just because you can't think of an explanation, doen't mean it is 'psi' effect or any other paranormal effect. And since this is NOT outside of the laws of chance, by any stretch of the imagination, your demonstration of 'psi' is laughable.

Drooper

24th September 2003, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
... I forgot about it right away and didn't notice that it had been recorded just hours before the Ladybrook terrorist attack, until the next day. Call it what you want, but this really happened.

After doing a bit of background reading, I have at least managed to ascertain one thing. There was no "Ladybrook (or even Ladybrooke) terrorist attack". There was a terrorist incident in West Belfast, targetted at the Woodbourne police station. Maybe the Woodbourne attack is what you were searching for?

thaiboxerken

24th September 2003, 01:45 PM

It's pretty useless to debate this with Luci. He has made up his mind that "Ladybrook" is a demonstration of his superpowers and nothing you can say will change his mind. If you ever wondered what an insane person is like to talk to, you are experiencing it right now with Luci.

Lucianarchy

24th September 2003, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by Drooper

After doing a bit of background reading, I have at least managed to ascertain one thing. There was no "Ladybrook (or even Ladybrooke) terrorist attack". There was a terrorist incident in West Belfast, targetted at the Woodbourne police station. Maybe the Woodbourne attack is what you were searching for?

No, it is referred to the Ladybrook estate area in the Belfast Times and the NI BBC report confirms this:

BBC Report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/audio/39299000/rm/_39299971_rosyb.ram)

Starrman

24th September 2003, 02:33 PM

It was such an important event in history, that not only did the invisible spirits nudge Lucianarcy into typing a single word, it also prompted them to delete the page she is linking to to prove their existence.:)

davidhorman

25th September 2003, 03:59 AM

After doing a bit of background reading, I have at least managed to ascertain one thing. There was no "Ladybrook (or even Ladybrooke) terrorist attack". There was a terrorist incident in West Belfast, targetted at the Woodbourne police station. Maybe the Woodbourne attack is what you were searching for?

The driver was ordered to drive through the estate on his way to the police station, but he stopped the bus at the end of the road where the terrorists got on.

David

Lucianarchy

25th September 2003, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by Starrman
It was such an important event in history, that not only did the invisible spirits nudge Lucianarcy into typing a single word, it also prompted them to delete the page she is linking to to prove their existence.:)

The links work quite well.

Ratman_tf

25th September 2003, 08:04 PM

Lucianarchy still won't tell me what I lied about. I take that quite personally, and am disappointed.

I guess Luci just likes to call people liars with no regard to if it's actually true or not.

Lucianarchy

26th September 2003, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Ratman_tf
Lucianarchy still won't tell me what I lied about. I take that quite personally, and am disappointed.

.

Terrorist attacks do not "happen all the time", which is what you claimed.

This was a major news story when it got out. Had the device exploded this would have been a major disaster which would have included countless numbers of children. Click the 'Proof' link in my sig ( needs Real Player) and notice how Ladybrook was the location for this attack. If this would have gone off, I guess some would call me a ghoul. Thankfully, it failed to explode. Given this thread title and the taunts of TBK this was an extraordinarily germane, truely psironic example of the effect.

26th September 2003, 10:31 AM

Right, more unassailable evidence for the paranormal.

Sniff test.

BNiles

26th September 2003, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

Thankfully, it failed to explode. Given this thread title and the taunts of TBK this was an extraordinarily germane, truely psironic example of the effect.

Yes, thankfully it didn't explode, but as your supposed RVing had no effect on this outcome, I don't see how you're calling it "extraordinarily germane". Since your posting of a single word was quickly forgotten by all (including yourself) until a day later it has only proved to be one thing IMO, useless.

As for being "Truly psironic", well, only you can comment on that since psironic is your word. If psironic means, of such a vague and nondescript nature as to not allow useful interaction. Then yes, this was truly a psironic experience.

CFLarsen

26th September 2003, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

I have explained before that these effects come through perceptions. The word 'ladybrook' came into my mind quite unexpectedly and with a feeling of urgency, whilst watering the garden and watching the butterflies. It happened again as I was responding to TBK in the opening post in this thread. It felt right to write it down, the best I can describe it is as a compulsive feeling satisified. I forgot about it right away and didn't notice that it had been recorded just hours before the Ladybrook terrorist attack, until the next day. Call it what you want, but this really happened.

Did it? If it did, it had to happen through "cooperation", right? Care to explain how psi "cooperated" with you?

(Oh, and...please try to establish just how soon it happened after your "prediction". You seem to be changing your story all the time. It might be a wise move, if you want to be taken seriously...)

Starrman

26th September 2003, 01:57 PM

This was a major news story when it got out.

A terrorist attack in Ladybrook is a major news story, eh. Then there should have been some follow up, or archives of the story available at multiple sources on the web.

Let's see, 'Ladybrook' and 'terrorist' brings 5 hits on Google. Major story there, Lucianarchy.

TLN

26th September 2003, 02:00 PM

Hey, when you guys are done here there's a pile of bricks in my back yard you can debate next. ;)

Lucianarchy

26th September 2003, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by BNiles

Yes, thankfully it didn't explode, but as your supposed RVing had no effect on this outcome, I don't see how you're calling it "extraordinarily germane". Since your posting of a single word was quickly forgotten by all (including yourself) until a day later it has only proved to be one thing IMO, useless.

As for being "Truly psironic", well, only you can comment on that since psironic is your word. If psironic means, of such a vague and nondescript nature as to not allow useful interaction. Then yes, this was truly a psironic experience.

I believe it is possible that humans are experiencing psychic evolution. When you apply proper, unprejudiced and open-minded skepticism to the evidence in total then it becomes the simplest explanation. I cannot be the only person who experiences the effect, and apart from the people I personaly know who live with these effects as part of their lives, those that use the effect to positive result, indeed the evidence suggests that the majority of the world's population have experienced these types of effect.

You may not have heard much about Psirony, but if my hypothesis is correct, and knowing what I already understand about the nature of many of these 'effects', then you will. Glad to have coined the phrase though. ;)

thaiboxerken

26th September 2003, 02:05 PM

I believe it is possible that humans are experiencing psychic evolution.

Like in XMEN comics?

When you apply proper, unprejudiced and open-minded skepticism to the evidence in total then it becomes the simplest explanation.

But there is NO evidence that supports your belief, nothing that can withstand scientific scrutiny.

I cannot be the only person who experiences the effect, and apart from the people I personaly know who live with these effects as part of their lives, those that use the effect to positive result, indeed the evidence suggests that the majority of the world's population have experienced these types of effect.

Unfortunatly, there are many insane people in the world. You are just one of them.

You may not have heard much about Psirony, but if my hypothesis is correct, and knowing what I already understand about the nature of many of these 'effects', then you will. Glad to have coined the phrase though. ;)

Quite insane.

Lucianarchy

26th September 2003, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by thaiboxerken

Like in XMEN comics?

I don't know, do you read XMEN comics then?

TLN

26th September 2003, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
I don't know, do you read XMEN comics then?

Yes, we just don't pretend they're real.

thaiboxerken

26th September 2003, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

I don't know, do you read XMEN comics then?

Actually, I don't anymore. I used to. I never actually thought that the events and powers depicted were real though. Why do you think people have superpowers? Oh yea, because of the "evidence". LOL.

Ratman_tf

26th September 2003, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

Terrorist attacks do not "happen all the time", which is what you claimed.

They do. A terrorist attack happens somewhere in the world every week, and sometimes every day. Don't you watch the news or read the papers or any magazines?

This was a major news story when it got out.

Hardly. Major for the people involved, sure. But almost anything can be considered major when it happens to you. From a world news perception, this wasn't even on the radar.

Had the device exploded this would have been a major disaster which would have included countless numbers of children. Click the 'Proof' link in my sig ( needs Real Player)

How do you define major disaster? If I were in the blast radius, it would be a HORRIBLE disaster for me! But for someone half a world away it's just something that happened. Personally, I'd feel bad for those affected, but in that distant, remote way, because I don