Lucianarchy and remote viewing

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by Ersby


Lucian, here's the question again.

On which news programme did you hear the word "Ladybrook"?

Thanks.

I first read about it whilst looking at the BBC news on their site on the Sunday morning.
I later heard a report by Rosie MaxDonald(sp?), also on BBC,

[thaiboxerken]

Luci, your "prediction" is hardly impressive. I mean, I did better with my Jan 23rd prediction.

[alfaniner]

Potrzebie.

[Ersby]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy


I first read about it whilst looking at the BBC news on their site on the Sunday morning.
I later heard a report by Rosie MaxDonald(sp?), also on BBC,

Thanks. So you saw the word "ladybrook" (or ladybrooke) on the Sunday morning, but waited until the evening to tell everyone. Why?

And the report by Rosie MaxDonald, was that also on the BBC site?

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by Ersby


Thanks. So you saw the word "ladybrook" (or ladybrooke) on the Sunday morning, but waited until the evening to tell everyone. Why?

And the report by Rosie MaxDonald, was that also on the BBC site?

I was interested to see if anyone else brought it up first. It's Rosy MacDonald, sorry about the spelling. Her report can be found on the BBC link in the 'proof' link in my sig.

[thaiboxerken]

Jan 23rd, 2004. I did a time stamped prediction. I'm just as powerful and psychic as Luci.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
I was interested to see if anyone else brought it up first.

......rrrrrrrrright.

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
It's Rosy MacDonald, sorry about the spelling. Her report can be found on the BBC link in the 'proof' link in my sig.

Since you criticize others for their spelling, don't you think you owe someone an apology?

[Lucianarchy]

I'm closer to the Golden Dawn
Immersed in Crowley's uniform
Of imagery
I'm living in a silent film
Portraying
Himmler's sacred realm
Of dream reality
I'm frightened by the total goal
Drawing to the ragged hole
And I ain't got the power anymore
No I ain't got the power anymore

I'm the twisted name
on Garbo's eyes
Living proof of
Churchill's lies
I'm destiny
I'm torn between the light and dark
Where others see their targets
Divine symmetry
Should I kiss the viper's fang
Or herald loud
the death of Man
I'm sinking in the quicksand
of my thought
And I ain't got the power anymore

I'm not a prophet
or a stone age man
Just a mortal
with the potential of a superman
I'm living on
I'm tethered to the logic
of Homo Sapien
Can't take my eyes
from the great salvation
Of ******** faith
If I don't explain what you ought to know
You can tell me all about it
On, the next Bardo
I'm sinking in the quicksand
of my thought
And I ain't got the power anymore

Don't believe in yourself
Don't deceive with belief
Knowledge comes
with death's release
-------------------------------------------------------







Best wishes, and so long.

L.

[Hannibal]

Luci, are you OK? No, seriously, are you OK? I may be on ignore so can someone paste this so Luci may see it.

I am genuinely quite concerned. PM me Luci if you wish too. I can listen.

Hannibal

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Hannibal
Luci, are you OK? No, seriously, are you OK? I may be on ignore so can someone paste this so Luci may see it.

I am genuinely quite concerned. PM me Luci if you wish too. I can listen.

Hannibal

I am not on anyone's ignore list.

[Clancie]

Posted by Hannibal to Lucianarchy

Luci, are you OK? No, seriously, are you OK? I may be on ignore so can someone paste this so Luci may see it.

I am genuinely quite concerned. PM me Luci if you wish too. I can listen.

Hannibal
I'm posting this for you, Hannibal. I agree that Luci's poem is concerning.

So...Luci? You okay? We need non-skeptics around here so that the JREF forum debates can happen as planned, right ("intelligent discussion between skeptics and non-skeptics from around the globe"). :)

As Girl6 often reminds us, this is a community. And, in spite of "philosophical" differences, I know that many, many people here would be glad to help. :)

[davidhorman]

I agree that Luci's poem is concerning.

It's a David Bowie song, just so you know.

David

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Clancie
I'm posting this for you, Hannibal.

Are you stalking me, Clancie?

[Clancie]

Posted by davidhorman

It's a David Bowie song, just so you know.
Thanks, David, I didn't know. But poem or lyric, still...quoting it, plus the "goodbye"...seems perhaps indicative of something, even if its just being fedup with the forum.. (Or maybe Luci just wants to share being a David Bowie fan? :p )

Anyway, I'd like to know he's still planning to be part of the discussions, too. Believers at this board are in very short supply! :p

[thaiboxerken]

I only hope that Luci doesn't try to take others with him to "the other side".

[TLN]

Originally posted by Clancie
So...Luci? You okay? We need non-skeptics around here so that the JREF forum debates can happen as planned, right ("intelligent discussion between skeptics and non-skeptics from around the globe"). :)

The key word being "intelligent". Have you ever even read Luci's posts?

[Ratman_tf]

A Drama Queen to the end.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by TLN
The key word being "intelligent". Have you ever even read Luci's posts?

She doesn't have to. Anyone who lashes out at skeptics is automatically a friend of Clancie's.

[Lucianarchy]

bumped to avoid [p]ruining the evidence.

[thaiboxerken]

I predict something bad will happen in the western world today.

[TheBoyPaj]

I will use my skepti-powers to make sure it does not.

(The entire hemisphere breathes a sigh of relief)

[Ed]

Originally posted by TheBoyPaj
I will use my skepti-powers to make sure it does not.

(The entire hemisphere breathes a sigh of relief)

Thanks big guy!

[thaiboxerken]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
I predict something bad will happen in the western world today.

Too late, just check the headlines and you'll see that something bad did happen yesterday in the western world.

[Lucianarchy]

bumped to avoid pruning

[Ashles]

Wow, the arrogance.

Will you be bumping the August 4th prediction results thread too, since that was such an obvious success?

By the way no one here actually considers this thread as evidence of anything, so, please, get over yourself.

[Anders]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
No, no, no....it did NOT happen "just like" you said it did.

You appended a word to a post of yours, in the very thread that questioned your psychic abilities, in a post that was about something else.

No explanations whatsoever. Not even that this was something so forceful that you had to write it down.

The forum clock was messed up at the time.

However, it was shown that you had posted the word after the incident happened.

It was much, much later, that you came up with the explanation that this was a premonition of things to come.

It doesn't even take a skeptic - just a clear-headed person - to realize what went on. You have a very hard time distinguishing reality and fantasy. I know that you will keep claiming that you got a psychic flash of some kind.

You did not.
Hey Larsen,

First of all, sorry to drag this up again, but as a skeptic I’m very curious and it takes forever to search through all the posts on this subject. It’s quicker to ask you!

Qas this debacle ever resolved? It seems to me that the time stamp anomaly seems to be the most plausible explanation. And that luci is lying about when he/she heard the news about the bomb on the bus. It’s very likely that such breaking news would be on every channel in the UK the second it happened.

The other question is if she/he could have changed the post without an edit time tag was attached?

[The Mighty Thor]

Originally posted by Anders
Hey Larsen,

First of all, sorry to drag this up again, but as a skeptic I’m very curious and it takes forever to search through all the posts on this subject. It’s quicker to ask you!

Qas this debacle ever resolved? It seems to me that the time stamp anomaly seems to be the most plausible explanation. And that luci is lying about when he/she heard the news about the bomb on the bus. It’s very likely that such breaking news would be on every channel in the UK the second it happened.

The other question is if she/he could have changed the post without an edit time tag was attached?

It occurs to me that when you change your sig via the User Control Panel, it changes in all your previous messages. Could this be coded to put your 'sig', e.g. 'ladybrook' higher in the message for only one past message?

I hate unresolved mysteries, too.:(

[davidhorman]

The other question is if she/he could have changed the post without an edit time tag was attached?

I think I've mentioned this before - long before the whole debacle, Luci made a post in an unrelated thread. I chided him for stating an opinion as fact, then he referred me back to his original post which said "I think that...", or similar, before the opinion. At the time I put it down to me skimming the post too quickly and jumping on Luci's back, but the Ladybrook thing has made me wonder...

Of course, that would mean there was a way of editing a post without adding the timestamp, which would probably require mod priviledges or knowledge of a bug in VBulletin that would allow this. I did a quick search once but couldn't discover anything. And Luci's post was quoted by another user.

David

[Anders]

Originally posted by davidhorman

[snip]
And Luci's post was quoted by another user.

David
Yes, but an hour later!

[The Mighty Thor]

Originally posted by davidhorman
I think I've mentioned this before - long before the whole debacle, Luci made a post in an unrelated thread. I chided him for stating an opinion as fact, then he referred me back to his original post which said "I think that...", or similar, before the opinion. At the time I put it down to me skimming the post too quickly and jumping on Luci's back, but the Ladybrook thing has made me wonder...

Of course, that would mean there was a way of editing a post without adding the timestamp, which would probably require mod priviledges or knowledge of a bug in VBulletin that would allow this. I did a quick search once but couldn't discover anything. And Luci's post was quoted by another user.

David

If this was indeed possible, it might also explain the 'misspelling' if an early report was heard via telephone, radio, police scanner etc.

With all the computer geniuses here, surely someone can duplicate the effect, or explain that it could be done way back then.

[geni]

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[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Anders
First of all, sorry to drag this up again, but as a skeptic I’m very curious and it takes forever to search through all the posts on this subject. It’s quicker to ask you!

Yes, it is. :)

Originally posted by Anders
Qas this debacle ever resolved? It seems to me that the time stamp anomaly seems to be the most plausible explanation. And that luci is lying about when he/she heard the news about the bomb on the bus. It’s very likely that such breaking news would be on every channel in the UK the second it happened.

The forum clock was very irregular at the time. It is highly possible that Lucianarchy saw this, and exploited it, precisely as he has exploited other things in his quest to make himself appear as if he has psychic powers.

Originally posted by Anders
The other question is if she/he could have changed the post without an edit time tag was attached?

Yes, it is possible - even today - to edit a post without the tag being attached: All you have to do is edit it before someone else views the thread.

<hr>

According to this news story:

Two masked gunmen left a sports bag containing a large incendiary device on a bus on the Stewartstown Road at about 1630 BST on Saturday.

They ordered the driver to take it through the nearby Ladybrooke estate, over speed ramps, and park it outside Woodbourne police station.


The driver stopped the bus at the junction of the Stewartstown Road and Black's Road while police closed the road and evacuated nearby houses.
Source (http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/3081623.stm)

Now, the police station is at 139 Stewartstown Road. (http://www.psni.police.uk/index/crime_prevention/pg_crime_p_officers.htm)

This map shows where the bus was apprehended:

http://www.skepticreport.com/resources/ladybrook.jpg

There was no "terrorist attack" at "Ladybrook".

It is by far not the first time, the police station has been sought bombed. This one from earlier in 2003. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/2778431.stm)

Here's another one from 2001. (http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200102/cmhansrd/vo011205/text/11205w08.htm)

Stewartstown Road is not exactly a safe place. (http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/encyclopedia/b/bl/bloody_friday.html)

Did you spot it?

[Anders]

Originally posted by CFLarsen


[snip]

[B]There was no "terrorist attack" at "Ladybrook".

[snip]

Did you spot it?
Oh yes, I did! Thanks CF. Nice to have this resolved, makes Luci's tag text quite stupid, in my opinion. They really don't have a good case, now do they, the psychics. They have to lie, deceive, and cheat to get any positive results. And the serious researchers out there end up with nothing. Amazing!

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Anders
Oh yes, I did!

No, you didn't. But it's OK.... ;)

[Darat]

Originally posted by The Mighty Thor
It occurs to me that when you change your sig via the User Control Panel, it changes in all your previous messages. Could this be coded to put your 'sig', e.g. 'ladybrook' higher in the message for only one past message?

I hate unresolved mysteries, too.:(

I'm not an expert but have been getting up to speed on how vBulletin works from that I would have to say I doubt it is possible.

We're allowed to use html code in posts and you can do quite clever things with how a page is displayed (most of which would be considered detrimental to the forum) however I do not think you could use it to spoof a record in one the database tables.

[Anders]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
No, you didn't. But it's OK.... ;)
Spot what???? Please, I'm not a all knowing god you know! I did spot many things, but I have to be sincere and say that I don't know if I spotted your spotting!

[Ersby]

Originally posted by Anders
It’s very likely that such breaking news would be on every channel in the UK the second it happened.


Actually, (although I don't know about how it was covered on UKTV) I went and checked back issues on the newspapers for the days following the incident, and couldn't find one that covered the story! This happened at the same time as the Dr Kelly suicide/Iraq report scandal broke.

Plus Lucian's work with the Home Office involved in the Northern Ireland office gives him a plausible means of learning about the attack before the media (though not, of course, before the police).

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Ersby
Actually, (although I don't know about how it was covered on UKTV) I went and checked back issues on the newspapers for the days following the incident, and couldn't find one that covered the story! This happened at the same time as the Dr Kelly suicide/Iraq report scandal broke.

Well, there wasn't much to report, since no attack happened...

Originally posted by Ersby
Plus Lucian's work with the Home Office involved in the Northern Ireland office gives him a plausible means of learning about the attack before the media (though not, of course, before the police).

True. One might call that to shoot himself in the foot, but....

[AWPrime]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
The psi effect works only through co-operation.

Oke a challenge: There is a object under my pc monitor right now. What is in this object?

To make it easy for you, I am in zuid-holland and thinking about this object (co-operation).

[The Mighty Thor]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
No, you didn't. But it's OK.... ;)

I notice that the LADYBROOK in your map doesn't have an 'e' at the end, like the LADYBROOKE in the report.

I've just noticed that one can edit a post without having the 'edited' tag. Thanks for explaining that this happens if nobody has yet viewed the post.

I certainly do not favour the psychic serendipity theory that was proposed -- that the name was just picked out of the blue. Lucianarchy was not trying a hit or miss affair. This was somehow doctored. There are too many coincidences.

But these psychics are really on a bit of a winner. We can look back to Mrs Piper, Margery, Helen Duncan and the rest and speculate on how their tricks were done. But believers always have the ultimate 'out'. We weren't there and can't prove that trickery was ALWAYS used.

At least with Lucianarchy we were there to witness the shananigans. But we still can't prove he used nefarious means. Claus has been promising some kind of grand expose, but it has been a long time coming.

Like I said -- I hate unresolved mysteries.:D

It reminds me of Supertramp's "Crime of the Century":

"Who are these men of lust, greed and glory?
Rip off the masks and let's see!
But that's not right, oh no, what's the story?
For there's you, and theres me"

Lead guitar break!
:) :)

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by The Mighty Thor
I notice that the LADYBROOK in your map doesn't have an 'e' at the end, like the LADYBROOKE in the report.

No, that's not it. But you are close.....

[The Mighty Thor]

Claus: The forum clock was very irregular at the time. It is highly possible that Lucianarchy saw this, and exploited it, precisely as he has exploited other things in his quest to make himself appear as if he has psychic powers.

quote:Originally posted by Anders
The other question is if she/he could have changed the post without an edit time tag was attached?

Yes, it is possible - even today - to edit a post without the tag being attached: All you have to do is edit it before someone else views the thread.

This methodology does seem plausible. It would explain why just one word was added and not "there will be an attempted terrorist attack at Ladybrook in Northern Ireland"

So, you pick a quiet time for the forum with few visible browsers online, you hear a radio report, you edit your (unrelated) post with one word quickly. Plus the clock is out. If the edited tag appears, nobody even notices the one word 'ladybrook'. You don't draw attention to it unless the edited tag does not appear.

Now it is beginning to make sense, if there is any sense in all of this.

[Hellbound]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
No, that's not it. But you are close.....

The only thing I see fromt he map is that the "attack" was closer to Sufolk than Ladybrook.

[The Mighty Thor]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
No, that's not it. But you are close.....

You are such a tease, Larsen :D :D :D

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by The Mighty Thor
This methodology does seem plausible. It would explain why just one word was added and not "there will be an attempted terrorist attack at Ladybrook in Northern Ireland"

So, you pick a quiet time for the forum with few visible browsers online, you hear a radio report, you edit your (unrelated) post with one word quickly. Plus the clock is out. If the edited tag appears, nobody even notices the one word 'ladybrook'. You don't draw attention to it unless the edited tag does not appear.

Now it is beginning to make sense, if there is any sense in all of this.

Yup, that's pretty much what I figured, too.

[Dr Adequate]

Originally posted by AWPrime
Oke a challenge: There is a object under my pc monitor right now. What is in this object?

To make it easy for you, I am in zuid-holland and thinking about this object (co-operation).
I see a desk, a carpet, and a medium-sized planet. Thank you for your cooperation.

I can also predict the future (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46151).

[AWPrime]

But that is in the object just under my monitor.;)

[Lucianarchy]

There was no cheating, in any shape or form. It happened exactly how I have explained, and the fact is, there are people here who are deliberately keeping quiet about the knowledge that they saw the post being registered when it was, at the correct time. The forum was very active at the time. Another case of sTARBABY Syndrone and the three wise monkeys...

[TLN]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
There was no cheating, in any shape or form.

Assuming this is true for a moment, it still wasn't a prediction. One word is not a prediction.

What is it about the above that you can't follow?

[thaiboxerken]

Luci has spilled his vomit into Court TV.

He also claims responsibility for any recent forum problems that may have happened in the last few days.

http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?postid=4332942#post4332942

[Lucianarchy]

"A bomb placed on board a bus in west Belfast put countless lives at risk, the police have said.
Two masked gunmen left a sports bag containing a large incendiary device on a bus on the Stewartstown Road at about 1630 BST on Saturday.

They ordered the driver to take it through the nearby Ladybrooke estate, over speed ramps, and park it outside Woodbourne police station.


The driver stopped the bus at the junction of the Stewartstown Road and Black's Road while police closed the road and evacuated nearby houses.

Army bomb experts carried out a controlled explosion on the device during the alert, which lasted for about four hours.

If this had gone off, basically the whole bus would have exploded and a large fireball would have encompassed the whole bus and anyone standing nearby

Peter Farrar
Acting District Commander

Police have blamed dissident republicans for the attack which, they said, couldn't have happened at a worse time.

Children were out playing on the estate when the bus was hijacked.

Acting District Commander Peter Farrar said countless lives were put at risk.

"It was a very unstable device filled with petrol," he said.


"If this had gone off, basically the whole bus would have exploded and a large fireball would have encompassed the whole bus and anyone standing nearby. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/3081623.stm

BBC Audio report
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/audio/39299000/rm/_39299971_rosyb.ram

[thaiboxerken]

Yep, nothing happened at ladybrooke. Thanks for clarifying that for us, Lucian.

[The Mighty Thor]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
Luci has spilled his vomit into Court TV.

He also claims responsibility for any recent forum problems that may have happened in the last few days.

http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?postid=4332942#post4332942

What does he mean by "What's the frequency?"?

Is his agenda to 'scare the sh*t' out of JREFers, and close the forum?

Why?

[thaiboxerken]

"What's the frequency, Kenneth?" is a reference to a song by REM.

And yes, I think Lucianarchy's agenda is to discredit anyone or any entity that doesn't believe he has superpowers.

[Zombified]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
"What's the frequency, Kenneth?" is a reference to a song by REM.
...and the song refers, I believe, to a crazy person who hassled Dan Rather (?) with that very question.

Ironically apt, if you ask me.

[The Mighty Thor]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
"What's the frequency, Kenneth?" is a reference to a song by REM.

And yes, I think Lucianarchy's agenda is to discredit anyone or any entity that doesn't believe he has superpowers.

Thanks. Showing my age, I guess -- but I have heard some REM stuff and I like it. Honest :)

I do have a CD of Des O'Conner's Greatest Hits, but it seems to be blank!

dicky-dum-dum-dicky-dum-dum:D

[jambo372]

:D For once I'll be sceptical for a change - sceptical that anyone would seriously listen to Des O'Conner.
Only Joking !!!

[The Mighty Thor]

Originally posted by jambo372
:D For once I'll be sceptical for a change - sceptical that anyone would seriously listen to Des O'Conner.
Only Joking !!!

Aha! You have got a sense of humour! I knew it all along.

To be honest, I prefer Val Doonican and Ken Dodd.:)

Actually, when there were only three TV channels it was darned hard to escape ol' Des. Morecambe and Wise really 'done the job' on him, though!

:) :) :)

[jambo372]

Too be honest I don't really like any of the artists mentioned.:)

[The Mighty Thor]

Originally posted by jambo372
Too be honest I don't really like any of the artists mentioned.:)

Well, as long as you know I was joking:) I'm from the Supertramp, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Steely Dan era. And I used to like T-Rex, but could never admit it to my 'heavy music' pals.

One good thing about the new Napster is being able to legally download stuff I have on old-fashioned vinyl albums.

I no longer have a 'record player', and could not master putting the stuff on CD anyway. I just recently got "Selling England by the Pound" and enjoyed hearing it after so many years.

Next will be 'From the Witchwood" by the Strawbs.

Apologies for the short derailment:)

[Anders]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
There was no cheating, in any shape or form. It happened exactly how I have explained, and the fact is, there are people here who are deliberately keeping quiet about the knowledge that they saw the post being registered when it was, at the correct time. The forum was very active at the time. Another case of sTARBABY Syndrone and the three wise monkeys...
I think I remember that you wrote that the incident took place a whole day after you made your "prediction". That is not the case however; you made the prediction about the same time, hence my suspicion that you might overheard the news on the radio or on BBC World, SkyNews or another UK news station.

You might not have made deliberate lie, but you might have heard the news, not taking it in really because those incidents are quite common in Northern Ireland. And than you suddenly remembered it, while writing a post here, thus including the word “Ladybrook�.

I think I'll go with that, instead of an alternate explanation, which would include the supernatural. Occam’s razor in action, so to speak.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
There was no cheating, in any shape or form. It happened exactly how I have explained, and the fact is, there are people here who are deliberately keeping quiet about the knowledge that they saw the post being registered when it was, at the correct time. The forum was very active at the time. Another case of sTARBABY Syndrone and the three wise monkeys...

Who are these people here? Names, please.

This is a serious accusation, and you'd better be prepared to back it up with evidence.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
"A bomb placed on board a bus in west Belfast put countless lives at risk, the police have said.
Two masked gunmen left a sports bag containing a large incendiary device on a bus on the Stewartstown Road at about 1630 BST on Saturday.

They ordered the driver to take it through the nearby Ladybrooke estate, over speed ramps, and park it outside Woodbourne police station.

The driver stopped the bus at the junction of the Stewartstown Road and Black's Road while police closed the road and evacuated nearby houses.

Army bomb experts carried out a controlled explosion on the device during the alert, which lasted for about four hours.

If this had gone off, basically the whole bus would have exploded and a large fireball would have encompassed the whole bus and anyone standing nearby

.....

Children were out playing on the estate when the bus was hijacked.



Did the bus drive through the estate, or was it stopped before it got to it?

[asthmatic camel]

Well, I'll be d*mned, this "knackered vulture" still has some form of existence; perhaps it's real proof of life after death. *Yawn*

BTW Claus, the latest member at SC is "SkepticReport". You?

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by asthmatic camel
BTW Claus, the latest member at SC is "SkepticReport". You?

Yes.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
And yes, I think Lucianarchy's agenda is to discredit anyone or any entity that doesn't believe he has superpowers.

And has been for a long time.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
There was no cheating, in any shape or form. It happened exactly how I have explained

Then why did you change your story several times?

Questions piling up...

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by Anders
I think I remember that you wrote that the incident took place a whole day after you made your "prediction". That is not the case however; you made the prediction about the same time, hence my suspicion that you might overheard the news on the radio or on BBC World, SkyNews or another UK news station.

You might not have made deliberate lie, but you might have heard the news, not taking it in really because those incidents are quite common in Northern Ireland. And than you suddenly remembered it, while writing a post here, thus including the word “Ladybrook�.

I think I'll go with that, instead of an alternate explanation, which would include the supernatural. Occam’s razor in action, so to speak.

Whatever. :rolleyes: Just remember, those incidents were in fact not that common for many years now. If you think 'ladybrook' is a good 'bet' for a name, then you are deluded. And if you think I somehow 'heard' about it when it wasn't even reported on until the following day, and still managed to reported it here, on the JREF board, coincidently, on a thread which was baiting my RV ability, even before it ever happened, then go right ahead and pile your 'coincidences' as high as you can stack them. :rolleyes: See, this is the sort of trite skjepticism I've had to deal with here. Ranging from me being in on the terrorist attack, to having super elctro-scanning devices, to having inside HO spooks feeding me the info, to, quite frankly, ludicrous clutches at a series of convoluted coincidences, all happening to come together, conveniently, within minutes of the opening of a thread which was designed to question my rv ability. Do me a favour.... :rolleyes:

[Lucianarchy]

Larsen, at least have the courtesy to listen to the BBC report given in the links I provided above, or on the BBC site, before you ask such stupid questions. The bus drove right through the Ladybrook estate and put "countless lives" at risk as children were playing in the streets of the estate which the bomb was driven through.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Whatever. :rolleyes: Just remember, those incidents were in fact not that common for many years now. If you think 'ladybrook' is a good 'bet' for a name, then you are deluded.

No, Lucianarchy, you are deluded. The links I provided about the attacks on the police station at Ladybrook clearly shows that it is a very dangerous area and has been for quite some time.

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
And if you think I somehow 'heard' about it when it wasn't even reported on until the following day, and still managed to reported it here, on the JREF board, coincidently, on a thread which was baiting my RV ability, even before it ever happened, then go right ahead and pile your 'coincidences' as high as you can stack them. :rolleyes:

Why did you change your story several times?

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
See, this is the sort of trite skjepticism I've had to deal with here. Ranging from me being in on the terrorist attack,

Why is this impossible?

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
to having super elctro-scanning devices

Again, you have to stray from the truth. Some have pointed to the possibility of you having a police scanner, which is hardly what you describe.

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
to having inside HO spooks feeding me the info

Why not? You are the one claiming inside HO information.

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
to, quite frankly, ludicrous clutches at a series of convoluted coincidences, all happening to come together, conveniently, within minutes of the opening of a thread which was designed to question my rv ability. Do me a favour.... :rolleyes:

Couldn't it be psirony? Or is that only when you get lucky?

[CFLarsen]

Lucianarchy,

I already posted this in this thread, but it bears repeating. You had no answer then, perhaps you have found one now.

Posted by Lucianarchy on 07-20-2003 04:13 PM:
You will note that the 'Ladybrook' attempted Belfast bombing occured within 24 hours of my reference to the name in my first post in this thread. There is no other newsworthy item using the word 'ladybrook', a simple search will confirm this. This is how RV impressions work, often nothing clear, which is all that I could pick up, a name. More precognition than RV, but RV works across time points.

Posted by Lucianarchy on 07-20-2003 05:23 PM:
Actually, it was only about an hour before.

Posted by Lucianarchy on 07-21-2003 05:22 AM:
An hour later the same day the attack ocurred in that place...

Posted by Lucianarchy on 07-21-2003 10:14 AM:
It looks like the Ladybrook incident ocurred about an hour and a half after I posted....

Posted by Lucianarchy on 07-21-2003 11:56 AM:
...but I can tell you that the Ladybrook terrorist attack happened within an hour after my posting.

Posted by Lucianarchy on 07-21-2003 12:13 PM:
The fact is though, the terrorist attack ocurred within a couple of hours of making the posting

Posted by Lucianarchy on 07-21-2003 01:56 PM:
...and evidence which was linked to a terrorist attack within a couple of hours of provision...

Posted by Lucianarchy on 07-21-2003 04:36 PM:
I posted about two hours before the terrorist attack in Ladybrook.

Posted by Lucianarchy on 07-21-2003 04:47 PM:
I posted about two hours before the terrorist attack in Ladybrook


So, you have claimed that the "incident" happened:


"within 24 hours"
"about an hour before"
"an hour later"
"about an hour and a half"
"within an hour"
"within a couple of hours"
"about two hours before"
"about two hours"
"a couple of hours after"


Doesn't this strike you as odd, Lucianarchy? Why can't you, even after the story broke, be more specific with the actual timing of your "prediction"?


You know exactly when your "prediction" happened, don't you?
You know exactly when you posted it here, don't you?
You know exactly when the attempted attack happened, don't you?


Why are you so unsure, then? Why do you keep changing this crucial part in your story? [/B][/QUOTE]

[thaiboxerken]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Larsen, at least have the courtesy to listen to the BBC report given in the links I provided above, or on the BBC site, before you ask such stupid questions. The bus drove right through the Ladybrook estate and put "countless lives" at risk as children were playing in the streets of the estate which the bomb was driven through.

So then.. your "prediction" was another "might happen" type of event? It's rather pathetic that you try to claim success on predictions that may or maynot come true, regardless of the results.

[Lucianarchy]

Perhaps you ought to consider that everyone else in the world is perhaps not as analy retentive and pedantic about such things as you are. All I ever knew was that I discovered about the attack the next day and that it happened some time after my posting here. One, two, three, a couple, a few, some , whatever, hours after my posting. It happened. No cheating, no hacking, no nothing. Whether it was an hour or three hours 23 minutes and 17 seconds after my posting, it was certainly after my posting. And the sick thing is, there are people reading this right now who saw that fact for themselves when it was posted all that time ago.

[thaiboxerken]

Ladybrook was not attacked.

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
So then.. your "prediction" was another "might happen" type of event? It's rather pathetic that you try to claim success on predictions that may or maynot come true, regardless of the results.

:rolleyes: and you think psychics are ghouls. Thank heavens that bomb did not go off. The attack happened regardless of whetehr or not the attack killed anyone. It was the intent to cause horrific carnage on "countless lives" according to the police. If someone comes at you with a machete and tries to swipe your head off, but you duck just in time, then you reckon you haven't been attacked? You are a complete idiot.

[thaiboxerken]

Ladybrook was not attacked, ladybrook was not even the target of the attack.

Nothing happened in ladybrooke.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Perhaps you ought to consider that everyone else in the world is perhaps not as analy retentive and pedantic about such things as you are. All I ever knew was that I discovered about the attack the next day and that it happened some time after my posting here. One, two, three, a couple, a few, some , whatever, hours after my posting. It happened. No cheating, no hacking, no nothing. Whether it was an hour or three hours 23 minutes and 17 seconds after my posting, it was certainly after my posting.

But if there is so much confusion (on your behalf), is it possible that it could also have happened an hour before your posting?

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
And the sick thing is, there are people reading this right now who saw that fact for themselves when it was posted all that time ago.

Yes, it is sick, in a way, how you keep clinging to this "prediction of a terrorist attack", when no such prediction occurred. And there was no terrorist attack.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Larsen, at least have the courtesy to listen to the BBC report given in the links I provided above, or on the BBC site, before you ask such stupid questions. The bus drove right through the Ladybrook estate and put "countless lives" at risk as children were playing in the streets of the estate which the bomb was driven through.

Did you look at the map I showed you?

[Lucianarchy]

"Two masked men boarded a bus at the Ladybrook terminus around 4.30pm on Saturday and left a black holdall containing what police described as an ''unstable'' device filled with petrol.

The armed hijackers ordered the driver to take the vehicle to Woodbourne Police Station. He stopped the bus at the junction of the Stewartstown Road and Blacks Road before alerting the PSNI.


[...]

"The journey was just over half a mile, but the bus was driven through a very busy estate on a sunny afternoon when the streets were packed with adults and children.

"Not only was it a massive danger to the driver, but the lives of passersby and police officers were also put at risk. They couldn't have picked a more dangerous time.''

http://icnorthernireland.icnetwork.co.uk/news/local/content_objectid=13200724_method=full_siteid=91603 _headline=-Deadly-Move-in-War-of-Nerves-name_page.html

[Ashles]

My goodness, just think how many stunning and accurate predictions are being lost each day due to Luci's obsession with trying to convince people of the Ladybrook(e) farce.

Shouldn't you be concentrating on continuing to make the world a safer place and advising the international security services Luci, rather than droning on in this forum about the same old subjects?

Those who believe you believe you. Those who don't, won't. That situation is not going to change.

Can we all possibly move on?

If you have any new predictions we would be interested in those. But not, so much, if they are any form of 'inverse' prediction. We don't like those very much. They're kind of stupid.

We'd just really like to know what WILL happen, not what may or may not happen because, actually, I'm already pretty good at predicting that myself.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
http://icnorthernireland.icnetwork.co.uk/news/local/content_objectid=13200724_method=full_siteid=91603 _headline=-Deadly-Move-in-War-of-Nerves-name_page.html

The link doesn't work.

If there is so much confusion (on your behalf), is it possible that it could also have happened an hour before your posting? Yes or no?

If no, why not?

If yes, then your "prediction" is nothing.

[Lucianarchy]

It's not possible because I posted at about 3.30. The bus wasn't even hijacked until 4.30 and the news didn't carry it until the next day. Apart from this, there were a number of people who saw my post when it was posted and can confirm it. But, for some reason ( I suspect a sTARBABY syndrone), they remain silent.

Re the link: I don't understand why it's not coming up. I've got the url here and pasting it right into the browser it comes up no problem, but pasted into the reply box here, it doesn't.

put the http and the following into your browser:


://icnorthernireland.icnetwork.co.uk/news/local/content_objectid=13200724_method=full_siteid=91603 _headline=-Deadly-Move-in-War-of-Nerves-name_page.html

[thaiboxerken]

part from this, there were a number of people who saw my post when it was posted and can confirm it. But, for some reason ( I suspect a sTARBABY syndrone), they remain silent.

Or, perhaps, a random word tossed in at the end of a paragraph has no significant meaning and is thus forgotten as soon as it's seen.

If no news story ever had the word ladybrook, ladybrooke, lady brooke or brooke shields in it... you wouldn't have mentioned ladybrook again and no one would be the wiser......again, because it's insignificant to everyone but you.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
It's not possible because I posted at about 3.30.

We don't know that. The forum clock was in shambles. Do you agree on this, yes or no?

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
The bus wasn't even hijacked until 4.30 and the news didn't carry it until the next day.

If the news didn't carry it, it sure doesn't sound as if this was a real "terrorist attack". Do you agree on this, yes or no?

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Apart from this, there were a number of people who saw my post when it was posted and can confirm it. But, for some reason ( I suspect a sTARBABY syndrone), they remain silent.

Name these posters, list the posts.

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Re the link: I don't understand why it's not coming up. I've got the url here and pasting it right into the browser it comes up no problem, but pasted into the reply box here, it doesn't.

put the http and the following into your browser:


://icnorthernireland.icnetwork.co.uk/news/local/content_objectid=13200724_method=full_siteid=91603 _headline=-Deadly-Move-in-War-of-Nerves-name_page.html

The link shows an article, published two days after the incident (not the "terrorist attack").

Please show on the map where the bus went.

[Anders]

"Musicians from the Andersonstown School of Music in west Belfast boarded a bus and tuned up to entertain passengers bound for Ladybrook, but a bump between a bus and a car in Queen Street meant things didn't exactly go to schedule."


A lot of things seem to be going on almost all the time around the Ladybrook terminus. (http://icnorthernireland.icnetwork.co.uk/news/local/page.cfm?objectid=14039040&method=full&siteid=91603)

[Lucianarchy]

"Two masked men boarded a bus at the Ladybrook terminus around 4.30pm on Saturday and left a black holdall containing what police described as an ''unstable'' device filled with petrol."

"They ordered the driver to take it through the nearby Ladybrooke estate, over speed ramps, and park it outside Woodbourne police station."

"The journey was just over half a mile, but the bus was driven through a very busy estate on a sunny afternoon when the streets were packed with adults and children."

"Not only was it a massive danger to the driver, but the lives of passersby and police officers were also put at risk. They couldn't have picked a more dangerous time.''

[Ashles]

I guess we'll notch that up as another "Something might have happened but didn't" prediction.

Of course if you had predicted "something will happen somewhere but at some point it may pass through Ladybrooke before actually happening" then that would be closer to being a successful prediction.

However, as it stands... not really.

If you did cheat with this prediction, you picked a pretty bad example to do it with.

[Ersby]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy

"Not only was it a massive danger to the driver, but the lives of passersby and police officers were also put at risk. They couldn't have picked a more dangerous time.'' [/B]

Wow! Looks like I predicted it too!

[Ersby]

I posted this on the Fortean Times board. Since we're digging up old arguments, I'll post it here too


The whole Ladybrook thread was fascinating, and it was instructive to see how angry some people got when presented with evidence of anomalous cognition that they couldn’t explain. My first reaction on reading the thread was “Good grief, he’s done it!� but since then certain things have arisen that don’t make sense and as such the Ladybrook example is not the watertight example Lucian would like it to be.

The time of the post is at issue here. The clock on JREF is always inaccurate. Twenty minutes is the norm, but more has been seen. This leaves Lucian’s claim of being before the attempted attack as probable, but not certain.

As an aside, Lucian also claims it was a big news story, but when I checked back issues I could find no newspaper that covered it and – as you can see from the thread – the only internet sites that carried the news was the BBC and the Belfast Telegraph.

Then there’s the curious case of how he discovered the news. He says he saw it on the BBC News website on the Sunday morning. He also says that, by this time, he had forgotten the word. Now, the set up of the BBC site is such that the headline and first paragraph of the story are on the main page, but the word “Ladybrook� was further down the story and so wouldn’t have been on the news site’s home page. So, it’s not as if he saw the word Ladybrook by chance while idly surfing the BBC website. He would’ve had to click on the news story to find it. In other words, he would only have found the word if he’d known to look for it. Which is unlikely given that he’d already claimed he’d forgotten it.

(And, of course, we can’t be sure that the story was ever actually on the main page. This occurred at the same time as the Kelly suicide and when the whole “sexing up� documents about Iraq story broke.)

Then there’s the slight (!) detail of Lucian having worked, or maybe still works, for the Home Office. In one thread, about psychic detectives, Lucian was only too vocal in reminding people about his work for the Home Office (spanning over a decade, as I recall) and especially his work with supergrasses, which would put him firmly in the Northern Ireland department. This could well be the method by which Lucian heard about the attack. Unfortunately, in the Ladybrook thread he’s remained strangely tight-lipped on the whole Home Office issue.

If Lucian would like to comment on his role in the Home Office, since I believe that to be the means by which he received his information, then that would be very nice.


Still no news on that last request, although it's nice to see that Lucian's made at least some attempt at addressing the point by pretending I'm suggesting some "spook" at the Home Office "fed information" to him.

You can tell when you've stumbled upon Lucian's weak spot when he reinvents it using derogatory terms!

[Dr Adequate]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Larsen, at least have the courtesy to listen to the BBC report given in the links I provided above, or on the BBC site, before you ask such stupid questions. The bus drove right through the Ladybrook estate and put "countless lives" at risk as children were playing in the streets of the estate which the bomb was driven through.
You even supply your own rope! How thoughtful!

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by Ashles
I guess we'll notch that up as another "Something might have happened but didn't" prediction.

Of course if you had predicted "something will happen somewhere but at some point it may pass through Ladybrooke before actually happening" then that would be closer to being a successful prediction.



Ashless, given that the armed terrorists forced the device to be driven "at speed" through a highly populated area, "over speed bumps",, the fact that the bomb failed to actualy explode was a miracle, it was an "unstable device". As for the ladybrook thing, it was hyjacked at the Ladybrook terminus, and driven through the Ladybrook estate. It was stopped just on the outskirt of the Ladybrook estate. The entire Ladybrook area was the exact location. :rolleyes:

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by Ersby


Still no news on that last request, although it's nice to see that Lucian's made at least some attempt at addressing the point by pretending I'm suggesting some "spook" at the Home Office "fed information" to him.

You can tell when you've stumbled upon Lucian's weak spot when he reinvents it using derogatory terms!

:rolleyes: Does that superb skeptical deduction apply to just me then? :rolleyes:

I have sworn on my life, and would be prepared to swear on anyone elses, that what I posted was genuine, no trickery, no cheating, no secret information.

You are right in your opening statement, 'so much anger at being unable to explain anomalous cognition'.

Indeed.

This really happened.

Talk about not being able to see the ships on the horizon. :rolleyes:

[Ashles]

They ordered the driver to take it through the nearby Ladybrooke estate, over speed ramps, and park it outside Woodbourne police station.

How does this correspond with "The entire Ladybrook area was the exact location"?
It doesn't - it was, and I quote your own words, nearby

Nothing actually happened in the Ladybrooke area.

And it's a miracle that it didn't go off in exactly the same way it's a miracle loads of other things don't happen each day.

By the way the 'miracle' bit is purely your addition. The police merely point out what would have happened if it had gone off, not the likelihood that it would.

So we're still left with - Ladybrooke - nothing happened there. There was a controlled explosion at Woodbourne police station, but Ladybrooke - no, not there.

Oh, and because it somehow apparently emphasises a point... :rolleyes:

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by Ashles
How does this correspond with "The entire Ladybrook area was the exact location"?
It doesn't - it was, and I quote your own words, nearby


Oh, and because it somehow apparently emphasises a point... :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: :p

Ashless, the terrorists took the bus at gunpoint from the "Ladybrook terminus", which is indeed "nearby" the "Ladybrook estate," which they then forced the driver to drive though, at speed, over speed bumps, whilst there were many children playing in the streets of the estate. The whole thing took place in the exact Ladybrook area.

So yes, given the amount of weaseling by so-called 'skeptics' over these recorded facts, I think a ' :rolleyes: ' is warranted.

[thaiboxerken]

So now you're claiming Ladybrooke Terminus as part of your hit? Why is that? You didn't claim it a few months ago. What you consider a hit keeps changing, why is that?

[Ashles]

The whole thing took place in the exact Ladybrook area.
Well, at the risk of this whole thing becoming rather tedious (oops, too late...)

No. It. Didn't.

Which part of:
park it outside Woodbourne police station.
are you having trouble with?

Part of the drama involved going through the estate but the actual story is about the bomb outside a Police station. Not in Ladybrook.

Also one of your links claims they boarded the bus at 4:30 and the other one says this is when they left the incendiary on the bus. Already the times are confused.

If you really do have this gift it appears to be entirely useless as it always misses or predicts the opposite of what will happen.

I eagerly await a prediction of yours in which you claim something will happen, and then it happens.
I believe this is actually supposedly the effect you are trying for.

That is called 'precognition'.

What you are currently doing is called 'guessing'.

Only one of these two abilities is paranormal.

[Lucianarchy]

Poor Kenneth. Have you run off to one of your chop-stick forums and cried for them to come and help you here yet? :)

So, if I find more supporting evidence I am "changing" the hit?

I am just doing the research other skeptics have ignored. These are just the facts as reported by the press.

The facts are, the bus was hyjacked by terrorists at gunpoint from the "Ladybrook Bus Terminus", and driven at speed through the highly populated "Ladybrook Estate". it hardly left the Ladybrook area at all, getting stopped right at the outskirts of the area.

Interesting thread you started here, Kenneth. :)

[CFLarsen]

Lucianarchy,


Why is it impossible for you to you being in on the "terrorist attack"?
Why is it impossible for you to have a police scanner?
Why is it impossible for you to having HO spooks, since you yourself claim to have worked for them?
Who are these people here who "are deliberately keeping quiet about the knowledge that they saw the post being registered when it was, at the correct time" and "who saw (your) post when it was posted and can confirm it"?
If there is so much confusion (on your behalf) about the time of your "prediction", is it possible that it could also have happened an hour before your posting?
Do you agree that the forum clock was not showing the correct time at the time of your "prediction"?
Since the news didn't carry it until the next day, does that sound to you as if it was a real "terrorist attack"?
Can you show on the map where the bus went?

[thaiboxerken]

Please don't use my first name, Lucianarchy. I only want people that are sane to use it.

Perhaps you should answer CFL's questions.

Doing more "research" is changing what you are calling a hit and nothing more.

Next, you'll try to find that a lady named brooke was in the vicinity.........

[Ashles]

it hardly left the Ladybrook area at all, getting stopped right at the outskirts of the area
No, outside the area. Let's not lie about it Luci. The police station was not in the Ladybrook area.

Not at the outskirts. Completely outside.

In fact if one were cynical one might think that you mentioned Ladybrook because that's the only part of the story you had heard at that time. The bus abduction.

[Dr Adequate]

Originally posted by Ashles
I eagerly await a prediction of yours in which you claim something will happen, and then it happens.
I believe this is actually supposedly the effect you are trying for.
I predict that within the next two hours a bus will pass through Ladybrooke and no terrorist attack whatsoever will take place there.

Get Misin-Formed (http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index.cgi)

[Lothian]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
The facts are, the bus was hyjacked by terrorists at gunpoint from the "Ladybrook Bus Terminus", and driven at speed through the highly populated "Ladybrook Estate". it hardly left the Ladybrook area at all, getting stopped right at the outskirts of the area.
If we are looking at facts.
You have said that your psychic intuitions transend time.

The word Lady brock could have in fact related to the bomb that was left aboard a hijacked bus in Ladybrooke, the bus was taken to the police staion in ladybrook and the driver fled. The bomb went off 30/10/2001 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/1627502.stm)

Or it could have been the bomb thrown at the same police station (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/2760481.stm)

It could have related to the murder and rape of Gladys Godfrey, 87, who was discovered in her bungalow in Devon Drive, on the Ladybrook Estate in Mansfield.

It could have been the first prize for roses in the Belfast flower show went to the Ladybrook horticultural society's entry.

The speed bumps, kids playing in street, the bomb, the bus terminal are irrelevent to your one word prediction..

You predicted ladybrook. You did not predict a bomb. you did not say you had a bad feeling about it (as in you later failed attempts).

You predicted ziltch. Unless you are now saying that your psychic intuitions are not time independant and everytime you get a word it means that there will in the next 2 hours be a bomb unexploding in that location. in which case it would be nice if you could expand rather than resort to the uri geller trick of taking credit after the event.

[Ersby]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
:rolleyes: Does that superb skeptical deduction apply to just me then? :rolleyes:


Actually, no, but you demonstrate it more often than most.

If you cannot accept that your oft boasted claim to have worked in the HOme Office for twelve years (with supergrasses, ie, connected to NI) gives you a viable means of gaining information, then perhaps it's you who needs to look closer at the horizon.

(A claim that you've been strangely silent on since the Ladybrook episode. Why?)

[Ersby]

Oh, I almost forgot.

Evasion noted.

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
:rolleyes: Does that superb skeptical deduction apply to just me then? :rolleyes:

I have sworn on my life, and would be prepared to swear on anyone elses, that what I posted was genuine, no trickery, no cheating, no secret information.

You are right in your opening statement, 'so much anger at being unable to explain anomalous cognition'.

Indeed.

This really happened.

Talk about not being able to see the ships on the horizon. :rolleyes:

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by Ersby
Oh, I almost forgot.

Evasion noted.

Oh dear. :rolleyes:

Ersby, all my work with the HO has been entirely within the criminal justice system, nothing to do with defence or security. And are you seriously suggesting that I somehow managed to pass information supplied to me by someone in the HO into the public domain a whole hour before the bus was even hyjacked?! Why aren't you reporting me to the HO for such frivolous use of such sensitive HO information?! Seriously, if you think I've misused the security services just to play a 'trick' on a handfull of pseudo-skeptics, then why aren't you doing something about it?

[Drooper]

The simple fact is my powers exceed yours Luci and I don't even have any. As my link below proves.

Let's stop looking at Luci's spurious "hits" and look at the entirety of his performance.

What about you failure in the Fortean board RV experiment?

Your last abject failure on this board when you nothing happened?


Your indisputable misses far outway you tenuous "hits". That is all one needs to know to draw conclusions. That is true scepticism.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
And are you seriously suggesting that I somehow managed to pass information supplied to me by someone in the HO into the public domain a whole hour before the bus was even hyjacked?!

This is not correct. The forum clock was in shambles at the time.

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Why aren't you reporting me to the HO for such frivolous use of such sensitive HO information?!

Because Ersby doesn't have your name.

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
This is not correct. The forum clock was in shambles at the time.




Actually, as you are desperate enough to invoke it, you will find that David Horman established that any supposed descrepancy in the forum clock would have made my post 40 minutes earlier rather than later. lol! Now what, David Horman is a liar too?

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by CFLarsen



Because Ersby doesn't have your name.

Oh come on, all the HO has to do is get the IP data from the JREF, an easy thing to do given the serious nature of the allegation. What's stopping him, or you for that matter? If you have grounds to believe that I have been involved in such a security breach, then you are acting criminally by withholding that information.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Actually, as you are desperate enough to invoke it, you will find that David Horman established that any supposed descrepancy in the forum clock would have made my post 40 minutes earlier rather than later. lol! Now what, David Horman is a liar too?

Prove that the forum clock would have made your post 40 minutes earlier rather than later.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Oh come on, all the HO has to do is get the IP data from the JREF, an easy thing to do given the serious nature of the allegation.

You are perfectly aware that the JREF does not give out IP data.

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
What's stopping him, or you for that matter? If you have grounds to believe that I have been involved in such a security breach, then you are acting criminally by withholding that information.

First, there is absolutely no evidence that you have worked with the HO in any way at all. Second, you are the one with the problem: You need to prove that you have worked with the HO.

I don't believe for a second that you have inside information. It is a possibility, that's all. My bet is that you heard it somewhere, not necessarily from an inside source.

[Lucianarchy]

You've got it arse about face, as usual.

You and Ersby are the ones suggesting I obtained information from an "inside source" at the HO. You have to provide evidence. Such a serious allegation with evidence would certainly enable the HO to obtain the IP information from the JREF, or perhaps you should offer the IP data you claim to have on me. Lol!

But then, you don't have any evidence what so ever. You're just, as usual, flailing around trying to garnish whatever faint hope your imagination can come up with, in order to try to debunk something you plainly can't even begin to comprehend.

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by CFLarsen


I don't believe for a second that you have inside information. It is a possibility, that's all. My bet is that you heard it somewhere, not necessarily from an inside source.

OK. Which mundane source do you suppose I could have got information from about an attack which was yet to happen? :rolleyes:

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
You've got it arse about face, as usual.

You and Ersby are the ones suggesting I obtained information from an "inside source" at the HO. You have to provide evidence. Such a serious allegation with evidence would certainly enable the HO to obtain the IP information from the JREF, or perhaps you should offer the IP data you claim to have on me. Lol!

But then, you don't have any evidence what so ever. You're just, as usual, flailing around trying to garnish whatever faint hope your imagination can come up with, in order to try to debunk something you plainly can't even begin to comprehend.

You are quite right: We don't have evidence whatsoever. And why is that? Because you have never provided evidence that you worked for the HO in the first place.

You shot yourself in the foot this time.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
OK. Which mundane source do you suppose I could have got information from about an attack which was yet to happen? :rolleyes:

Nice try. First, prove that the word was posted before the non-existent "attack" took place.

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
Nice try. First, prove that the word was posted before the non-existent "attack" took place.

I posted an hour before the bus was even hijacked, and if you want to play the 'forum clock' card, let me remind you that that particular issue showed that any discrepancy would have put my posting back even earlier.

You really are falling back on supposition after supposition and even they make the hit more concrete.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
I posted an hour before the bus was even hijacked, and if you want to play the 'forum clock' card, let me remind you that that particular issue showed that any discrepancy would have put my posting back even earlier.

You really are falling back on supposition after supposition and even they make the hit more concrete.

This is not evidence. This is your opinion.

Please show your evidence, or admit that no such evidence exists.

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
You are quite right: We don't have evidence whatsoever. And why is that? Because you have never provided evidence that you worked for the HO in the first place.

You shot yourself in the foot this time.

??

Claus, do you have a comprehension problem or something? I am not even making any claim about the HO here.

[alfaniner]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
...You really are falling back on supposition after supposition and even they make the hit more concrete.

Fine. Do it again.

[Garrette]

Originally Posted by Lucianarchy:

I posted an hour before the bus was even hijacked, and if you want to play the 'forum clock' card, let me remind you that that particular issue showed that any discrepancy would have put my posting back even earlier.


Perhaps I'm very confused, but this doesn't help your case.

If a forum clock error would have put your posting time 40 minutes earlier than it actually was, then it was indeed possible for you to post information seemingly before it was possible to obtain it mundanely.

Example:

1. Actual time is 10:00.

2. You learn about an incident.

3. You post "Ladybrooke" at 10:02, actual time.

4. Forum error shows you posting (incorrectly) at 9:22.


Next example.

1. Actual time is 10:00

2. You post something unrelated to any incident at 10:02, actual time.

3. Forum error show you posting (incorrectly) at 9:22.

4. At 10:20, actual time, you hear of incident.

5. At 10:21, actual time, you edit the original post and append "Ladybrooke."

6. Posting does not show the usual "Last edited by..." because no one else has yet read the original post.


In the first example, you've got nearly 40 minutes of leeway. In the second, nearly an hour.

Have I misunderstood?

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Claus, do you have a comprehension problem or something? I am not even making any claim about the HO here.

Have you ever claimed to have worked for the HO? Yes or no?

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Garrette
Have I misunderstood?

Nope. Another shot in the foot by Lucianarchy.

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by Garrette
Perhaps I'm very confused, but this doesn't help your case.

If a forum clock error would have put your posting time 40 minutes earlier than it actually was, then it was indeed possible for you to post information seemingly before it was possible to obtain it mundanely.


Have I misunderstood?

Yes. Completely. Go back and read the thread. And even if it was 40 mins in favour in still would leave 20 mins before the hijack even took place!

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
Nope. Another shot in the foot by Lucianarchy.

Oh really? Please provide your evidence for claiming Garret is not mistaken.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Oh really? Please provide your evidence for claiming Garret is not mistaken.

It's there, Lucianarchy. Ignore it at will. Want to argue with time?

Have you ever claimed to have worked for the HO? Yes or no?

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
Have you ever claimed to have worked for the HO? Yes or no?

Not in the context of anything at all to do with this thread or how information would or could be passed to me. No. Absolutley not.
OK?

[Dr Adequate]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Oh really? Please provide your evidence for claiming Garret is not mistaken.
Your inability to point out Garret's mistake when it would be in your interest to do so.

[Anders]

Damn, I should read the forum more carefully, well, move on, nothing to see....

[Ersby]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Oh dear. :rolleyes:

Ersby, all my work with the HO has been entirely within the criminal justice system, nothing to do with defence or security. And are you seriously suggesting that I somehow managed to pass information supplied to me by someone in the HO into the public domain a whole hour before the bus was even hyjacked?! Why aren't you reporting me to the HO for such frivolous use of such sensitive HO information?! Seriously, if you think I've misused the security services just to play a 'trick' on a handfull of pseudo-skeptics, then why aren't you doing something about it?

FINALLY!! After over a year you manage to answer a question. If you'd been so good as to say this when I first asked, then you may not be so riled up about it now.

So your work with supergrasses was in what role?

And I'm not going to report you since there is no information in the word "Ladybrook" for anyone to act upon. In the same way that your date predictions do not give enough information to the security services a means to stop a terrorist attack.

The reason I'm persisting with this line of enguiry is because if you take the definition of psi (as many people do) as being an exchange of information with the absence of any normal sensory channels, then your work with the Home Office becomes very important since (despite your bluster) it is a normal sensory channel. Its mere presence means that this cannot be taken seriously as an example of psi, especially since no one knows your whereabouts or actions on that Saturday afternoon.

The fact that you've worked with supergrasses and your only impressive hit was to do with NI rings alarm bells. You can't understand that: fair enough. But taking into account your feeble attempts at replication, I don't see how you can claim a strong case for anything. Not without a little more information about your role in the Home Office and the likelihood of your receiving information about NI.

And remember we can't be sure it really was a whole hour before. Read the thread again.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Not in the context of anything at all to do with this thread or how information would or could be passed to me. No. Absolutley not.
OK?

Prove it. You will have to show evidence of what your work consisted of - precise evidence, that can be checked.

[Operaider]

I've been gone a while so let me catch up

From what I understand Luci has made another of her world famous predictions. This time concerning an attack involving the name ladybrook. The "attack" was a carjacking concerning a bus and an explosive substance that was then driven down a road named ladybrook.

Using these rules I could predict a robbery on Metcalf (a road nearby my home). If a robbery were to talk place somewhere else entirely and the getaway car happened to race down Metcalf, I could call it a success.

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by Ersby
FINALLY!! After over a year you manage to answer a question. If you'd been so good as to say this when I first asked, then you may not be so riled up about it now.

So your work with supergrasses was in what role?

And I'm not going to report you since there is no information in the word "Ladybrook" for anyone to act upon. In the same way that your date predictions do not give enough information to the security services a means to stop a terrorist attack.

The reason I'm persisting with this line of enguiry is because if you take the definition of psi (as many people do) as being an exchange of information with the absence of any normal sensory channels, then your work with the Home Office becomes very important since (despite your bluster) it is a normal sensory channel. Its mere presence means that this cannot be taken seriously as an example of psi, especially since no one knows your whereabouts or actions on that Saturday afternoon.

The fact that you've worked with supergrasses and your only impressive hit was to do with NI rings alarm bells. You can't understand that: fair enough. But taking into account your feeble attempts at replication, I don't see how you can claim a strong case for anything. Not without a little more information about your role in the Home Office and the likelihood of your receiving information about NI.

And remember we can't be sure it really was a whole hour before. Read the thread again.

"riled"? Lol! Projection noted, Ersby.

Frankly, I am not bothered about arguing over supposiitons over the clock or how many yards out of the Ladybrook estate the bus was stopped in anymore. It is clear that this is serving no useful purpose anymore and merely feeding pedantry. I have already sworn on my life that I have not cheated in any shape or form, clocks, editing or anything else you could possibly come up with. If you do not respect my word on my life, then I do not respect your opinion either. There is no way I can give you proof of anything, I am merely sharing my experiences. This is a forum, not a lab.

It happened, just the way I have explained.

BTW, "supergrass" is not limited to NI. :rolleyes:

[Garrette]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy:

Go back and read the thread. And even if it was 40 mins in favour in still would leave 20 mins before the hijack even took place!

I have read the thread, though admittedly not in the greatest of detail. Plus, I was active on the board when you originally posted this "prediction" and during its subsequent dissection.

Might I suggest you go back and read my post, particularly the second example which gives you the full hour needed before the hijack.

And frankly, Luci, you are easily intelligent enough to understand that no amount of swearing--upon your life, your bible, your great grandmother's grave, or your rubber duck--can add to the value of the presented evidence, regardless how sincerely you do it.
This is especially true given your past obfuscation and stonewalling.

Ersby is correct in his sentiment toward your answer about the Home Office. The question has been posed, reposed, doubly reposed, and rereposed to you for a very long time now (I don't know if it's actually a year or not, but it is at least close). You have simply ignored it and now give a partial answer.

Did you "cheat" with the board's erroneous clock at the time you posted Ladybrook? I honestly do not know. But I do know now, based on your own admission about the error of 40 minutes, that it was possible, particularly given our lack of knowledge about the extent of your informational access within the HO.

On the other hand, maybe "Ladybrooke" was a valid demonstration of psi, but the other possibilities must be removed first. They haven't been. You know this.

[Dr Adequate]

But please do it again, only better. It's not just the time of your post that's ambiguous, but also the nature of the post. Cryptic. Enigmatic. So do it again, properly. Mind-meld with Jesus. We're all rooting for you.

And I don't see why your post was so cryptic in the first place. Your claim is to "remote viewing", right? So what exactly did you "see"? A bus-load of terorists and bombs? Or a sign saying "Welcome to Ladybrooke"? Why does a "remote viewer" have only one thing to tell us, and that not a description of a scene, but a name?

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
There is no way I can give you proof of anything, I am merely sharing my experiences. This is a forum, not a lab.

So why are you claiming evidence that you predicted this?

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by Dr Adequate
But please do it again, only better. It's not just the time of your post that's ambiguous, but also the nature of the post. Cryptic. Enigmatic. So do it again, properly. Mind-meld with Jesus. We're all rooting for you.

And I don't see why your post was so cryptic in the first place. Your claim is to "remote viewing", right? So what exactly did you "see"? A bus-load of terorists and bombs? Or a sign saying "Welcome to Ladybrooke"? Why does a "remote viewer" have only one thing to tell us, and that not a description of a scene, but a name?

Please, please have the courtesy of reading my descriptions in this very thread about how and the nature of these perceptions before asking these questions. I really am towards the end of this now, I am not trying to convnce anyone, I am just sharing my genuine, personal experiences for those genuinely interested in the nature of these very real phenomena.

[Garrette]

Originally posted by Dr. Adequate:

It's not just the time of your post that's ambiguous, but also the nature of the post. Cryptic. Enigmatic.

To avoid any confusion on the part of lurkers: I agree completetly with Dr. Adequate.

I only spent time on the clock issue because no one else had yet, but this "Ladybrooke" thing falls apart on every aspect, not just one.

Originally posted by Lucianarchy:

I am just sharing my genuine, personal experiences for those genuinely interested in the nature of these very real phenomena.

I and many other regular posters on this board are genuinely interested in all "very real phenomena." You know this, too, but you play the victim as you so often do.

You have at least two steps, though, that you have failed to complete:

1. Demonstrate it is an actual phenomenon and not simply a disguised reaction to some information you discovered mundanely.

2. Demonstrate what kind of phenomenon it is. I am quite willing to agree it is a phenomenon. I would classify it as "One of those non-sequitur thoughts we all occasionally have and which have no meaning except as it relates to some random firing of neurons/synapses/other-terms-I-don't-know-because-I'm-not-versed-in-the-science-of-the-brain."


Sometimes when I'm driving or walking or jogging I get a flash of thought, completely unrelated to my current activity but vivid, intense, and detailed.

Sometimes it's an old memory. Sometimes it's something I do not know.

It's never been psi, though.

[Lucianarchy]

Fine. Put it down as luck if you want. I accept that it may have been just luck that drove me to write it down in a thread taunting my RV ability, in that opening at the start of this thread following my experience shortly before whilst in the garden. It may be just luck that I 'guessed' the face and bowl with the experiment with Alexia from the Fortean Times. It may just be luck that I scored 100% accuracy with Dr Steinkemp. It may be just luck that I guessed significant identifiers in the Fortean Times RV experiments. It may be just luck that I immediately guessed the book on Paj's monitor. All seperated, just luck. All together in context, maybe pehnomenal luck.

I am aware that others wish to interpret these results in other ways. Fine. No problem. I have seen the futility of pseudo-skeptic who try to 'replicate' the same levels of accuracy. I am not trying to either convince or change those peoples ideas.

I am sharing these experiences on the internet in the hope that other sceptics, like me, will be prepared to indulge themsleves in the possibility of the 'psi effect' being real and to have the courage to step closer to the edge, go with the flow and see what happens to them. I predict riducule and personal attack. I also predict, for some, a series of positive, life-changing experiences.

[Dr Adequate]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Fine. Put it down as luck if you want. I accept that it may have been just luck that drove me to write it down in a thread taunting my RV ability, in that opening at the start of this thread following my experience shortly before whilst in the garden. It may be just luck that I 'guessed' the face and bowl with the experiment with Alexia from the Fortean Times. It may just be luck that I scored 100% accuracy with Dr Steinkemp. It may be just luck that I guessed significant identifiers in the Fortean Times RV experiments. It may be just luck that I immediately guessed the book on Paj's monitor. All seperated, just luck. All together in context, maybe pehnomenal luck.
I can't tell whether that would be phenomenal luck because you haven't listed your misses. Unless you can and will list them all, I don't know how impressive this is.

So instead: which of these do you consider the best of these phenomena? The strongest evidence for psi?

[Ashles]

Full results for Paj's book experiment (http://cgi.pagetworld.plus.com/bookresults.htm)

Make up your own mind. Are we in the presence of a great psychic? Or someone who gave up after one hit and four subsequent misses?

Yooouuuuu decide.

[Ersby]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
"riled"? Lol! Projection noted, Ersby.

Frankly, I am not bothered about arguing over supposiitons over the clock or how many yards out of the Ladybrook estate the bus was stopped in anymore. It is clear that this is serving no useful purpose anymore and merely feeding pedantry. I have already sworn on my life that I have not cheated in any shape or form, clocks, editing or anything else you could possibly come up with. If you do not respect my word on my life, then I do not respect your opinion either. There is no way I can give you proof of anything, I am merely sharing my experiences. This is a forum, not a lab.

It happened, just the way I have explained.

BTW, "supergrass" is not limited to NI. :rolleyes:

So (to ask the question AGAIN) in what role where your involved with supergrasses :rolleyes:?

Once again, I am not interested in anyone who makes accusations of "projections" (you did seem slightly peeved in your answer, admit it) the fact is if psi is defined as an exchange of information in the absence of normal sensory channels, then your examples was acheived with the presence of normal sensory channels, and so cannot be taken as prrof of psi. Evidence of psi, yes, I'll admit that: but evidence to be taken into account with your dismal (and I mean hopelessly woeful) predictions since then.

(Note: Not so long ago Lucian posted a formula whereby people could calculate the success rate. He said that the proportion of successful elements would be greater than those of anyone just guessing. I did those sums and found I had a greater success rate than Lucian. After I posted that, he stopped insisting on this criteria! I can't imagine why!)

[Dr Adequate]

Originally posted by Ashles
Full results for Paj's book experiment (http://cgi.pagetworld.plus.com/bookresults.htm)

Make up your own mind. Are we in the presence of a great psychic? Or someone who gave up after one hit and four subsequent misses?

Yooouuuuu decide.
Ah. I was hoping against hope that he'd got one out of one on a remote viewing trial. There's always hope. It's just that I couldn't quantify it any more without using the word "epsilon".

So, one hit out of a possible ninety? When, it seems, they were given a list of what the targets were? I'm stunned. Lucianarchy truly has a gift --- for self-deception.

Luci, I'm profoundly disappointed, I hope you realise.

[Ersby]

I've got the best hit rate out of anyone in BoyPaj's experiment.

So there.

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by Ersby
So (to ask the question AGAIN) in what role where your involved with supergrasses :rolleyes:?

Once again, I am not interested in anyone who makes accusations of "projections" (you did seem slightly peeved in your answer, admit it) the fact is if psi is defined as an exchange of information in the absence of normal sensory channels, then your examples was acheived with the presence of normal sensory channels, and so cannot be taken as prrof of psi. Evidence of psi, yes, I'll admit that: but evidence to be taken into account with your dismal (and I mean hopelessly woeful) predictions since then.

(Note: Not so long ago Lucian posted a formula whereby people could calculate the success rate. He said that the proportion of successful elements would be greater than those of anyone just guessing. I did those sums and found I had a greater success rate than Lucian. After I posted that, he stopped insisting on this criteria! I can't imagine why!)


Have you ever stopped to think that it may be that I am simply tired of responding in any meaningful way to your churlish comments? I am not "peeved", Ersby. Far from it. But I am, I do admit, getting immensly tired of responding to pseudo-skeptic type rhetoric.

Your recent comments - "admit it" "hopelessly woeful" "so there" etc,. are not only projections of a "riled" and "peeved" person, but one who is projecting personal needs and is clearly not even remotely(sic) constructively interested in proper discourse.

Just put me down as a cheat and turn the computer off.

[Dr Adequate]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
pseudo-skeptic
:dl:
Would a "pseudo-sceptic" be someone who calls himself a "sceptic", but cites as evidence for his own psychic powers a score of 1/90 on a test of his abilities? I just wondered...

[Yeah_Right]

So remote viewing requires co-operation? Sounds like an out on your part Lucianarchy. So when a supposed remote viewer working for the government uses this power to spy on an enemy, the enemy government has to co-operate? Doesn't sound like a very efficient way of covert surviellance.

[Ersby]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Have you ever stopped to think that it may be that I am simply tired of responding in any meaningful way to your churlish comments?

Actually, you've never responded in a meaningful way to my comments, right from the very beginning. Silence speaks volumes, don't you think?

[AWPrime]

co-operation: Before the experiment giving the subjet a call to ask what the other person will be thinking about.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Just put me down as a cheat and turn the computer off.

And then, you can continue spreading your lies and false claims.

No, I have a better idea: Let's put you down as a cheat, and continue to tell the world.

[Lothian]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Your recent comments -...."hopelessly woeful" Ersby,

You should withdraw that comment. It shows Luci in too much of a good light.

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
Your recent comments -...."hopelessly woeful" Ersby,

You should withdraw that comment. It shows Luci in too much of a good light.

Some of her predictions are well beyond woeful.

I recall one time when she predicted numbers that would come up on Saturdays lottery draw. None of her 6 numbers appeared out of the 19 numbers drawn in the three draws. Quite astounding and very difficult to do.

Her psychic touch is similar to the curse of Geller.

[Lucianarchy]

Originally posted by Yeah_Right
So remote viewing requires co-operation? [...] Doesn't sound like a very efficient way of covert surviellance.

What it means is that it won't work when part of the loop has identified and is aware of the viewing, if that part of the loop is antagonistic to the viewing. A 'spy' viewing, would not give advance knowledge to the subject.

[Lothian]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
What it means is that it won't work when part of the loop has identified and is aware of the viewing, if that part of the loop is antagonistic to the viewing. A 'spy' viewing, would not give advance knowledge to the subject. Is this opinion or do you have any proper experiments that back up this theory. :D

[Anders]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy
What it means is that it won't work when part of the loop has identified and is aware of the viewing, if that part of the loop is antagonistic to the viewing. A 'spy' viewing, would not give advance knowledge to the subject.
How do you know this, is it published in reports, in any magazines, in books? Have this hypothesis beem tested?

If you wanted to do a test, it would be easy to set up. 10 people, 5 positive of viewing, and 5 negative. Some RV tries to read any of them, and you could see if the hypothesis is false or not.

I would love to be one of the subjects negative to be viewed!

[TheBoyPaj]

Luci, I would LOVE you to be able to view the book on my computer monitor. That would be cool. You have my full co-operation.

[Guru Yeller]

Interesting thread.

Why did Lucianarchy get banned? 'Ladybrook' alone should have been good enough for the $1m.

[Ed]

Originally posted by Guru Yeller
Interesting thread.

Why did Lucianarchy get banned? 'Ladybrook' alone should have been good enough for the $1m.

I don't recall. I think that it involved a meltdown of some kind. Also, Luci sort of dropped out of sight everywhere, including his own site. Odd.

[Ashles]

I KNEW it! I absolutely KNEW it!

The moment I posted in another thread how it would be funny if this thread got deleted due to inactivity and archiving I thought to myself
"I bet a brand new poster will mysteriously come along and bump it".

And sure enough someone decides that their very first post on the JREF forums will strangely be on a thread that hasn't seen any interest in nearly 9 months.

So obviously
A) Guru Yeller is Lucianarchy
B) Lucianarchy keeps reading the JREF forums obsessively
C) Lucianarchy is very sad. So very sad.

Haven't you got any great new psychic moments to link to yet? Is this poor example still the only thing you've got?

Luci, please do continue linking to this thread. I'm sure watching your behaviour will certainly convince anyone of the extent of your 'abilities'.

[CFLarsen]

Lucianarchy has been spotted on this forum:

http://www.thesupernaturalworld.co.uk/

He claims that this thread has been removed.... :rolleyes:

[Azrael 5]

How many forums as Luci bragged about this non event of his on?
Although only members can read SNW forum,I can tell you he's getting a hard time from some JREF members on there.;)

[phenomenon]

And judging by what he has written I tend to think it will continue.

[thaiboxerken]

It's rather pathetic that he still uses this thread as an example of his superpowers in action.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
It's rather pathetic that he still uses this thread as an example of his superpowers in action.

He banks on people not bothering to wade through it.