Next time a Moon Hoaxer strolls past

[MG1962]

http://www.panoramas.dk/moon/apollo-17-2.html

Enjoy

And care of some fine work at the BAUT forum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khDI2MsWSYc

If the first two minutes dont fire you up... Then it is time to call a coronor :)

[jhunter1163]

Gene Cernan wrote an excellent book about his career as an astronaut. It's called "The Last Man On The Moon" and I recommend it highly.

I'd like to see a Moon hoaxer tell Cernan he didn't REALLY go to the moon. He wouldn't stop with one punch like Aldrin did.

[Free Thinkr]

Well, there's that, and the fact that the astronauts placed reflectors on the moon that enable us to measure the distance to the moon with lasers.

[Larry Lovage]

http://www.panoramas.dk/moon/apollo-17-2.html

Enjoy
That panorama is proof, if any were needed, that the whole thing was faked!! As if Internet users could manipulate a live camera on the moon's surface, don't make me laugh!

As for those laser reflectors, they just prove that the entire moon is fake!

[scissorhands]

Excellent debunking video and the panoramas were superb.
Perhaps it could be posted for Quest on LCF, he says hes 52 and nobodies fool, ;) , yet is totally convinced of this hoax. Indeed he is using it as an example of govt/media conspiracy to back up his 911 ramblings.

[jsiv]

Well, there's that, and the fact that the astronauts placed reflectors on the moon that enable us to measure the distance to the moon with lasers.
Didn't the Russians put mirrors on the moon, as well?

DID THEY LAND MEN ON THE MOON?!!?

:o:o

[Rawkarma]

I'd like to see a Moon hoaxer tell Cernan he didn't REALLY go to the moon. He wouldn't stop with one punch like Aldrin did.

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I'd have punched this pretentious kook too.

Even if you agree with his opinion, his methods for obtaining interviews in these DVD's does nothing for his credibility.

I know someone extremely impressionable in my own family that bought into this in a big way, and proceeded to email this (http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/) website of one Bart Sibrel and take this even further by sending me copies of the DVD's.

I have watched all these DVD's, and was temped to through them where they rightfully belong: in the trash.

I found, however, a more worthwhile use for all four DVD's: they now serve as coffee coasters.

Can't say I feel any sympathy for the $119 wasted on this bs.

[~enigma~]

I can't understand the mindset of the believers of the moon landing hoax. I mean superficially they present a decent argument in some limited respect but taking in the entire picture and all the recent astronomical data, denying the moon landing is akin to denying your own birth. Telescopes can see Sgt A at the center of the galaxy 26000 light years (156000 Trillion miles) away. What kind of idiot actually believes NASA couldn't send a manned mission to a distance of a mere 250000 miles?

[CptColumbo]

Gene Cernan wrote an excellent book about his career as an astronaut. It's called "The Last Man On The Moon" and I recommend it highly.

I'd like to see a Moon hoaxer tell Cernan he didn't REALLY go to the moon. He wouldn't stop with one punch like Aldrin did.

I interviewed him by phone once. Unless they put him in the situation Dr. Aldrin was in, penned in and in his face, IMO he could keep calm enough to not strike them.

Remember he nearly died twice on missions, during his Gemini space walk and in orbit around the Moon on Apollo 10, he knows how to handle pressure (as do most astronauts). He and Tom Stafford were also the first back-up crew to go on a mission, and had a very short time to train for it.

It is a great book. I liked it because he didn't sugar-coat himself too much. He pointed out mistakes he made, and was honest about it being his fault. In case you missed it in the book, he wasn't to impressed with Aldrin during the Gemini program.

[jimbob]

Or there is this:

http://stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm


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more On topic:

It was the height of the cold war, the Soviets had radar, and were bound to be tracking the missions, why would they have *not* exposed any fakery?

IIRC, they *did* launch an unmanned mission at the same time to attempt to steal th US thunder.

[jhunter1163]

I interviewed him by phone once. Unless they put him in the situation Dr. Aldrin was in, penned in and in his face, IMO he could keep calm enough to not strike them.

Remember he nearly died twice on missions, during his Gemini space walk and in orbit around the Moon on Apollo 10, he knows how to handle pressure (as do most astronauts). He and Tom Stafford were also the first back-up crew to go on a mission, and had a very short time to train for it.

It is a great book. I liked it because he didn't sugar-coat himself too much. He pointed out mistakes he made, and was honest about it being his fault. In case you missed it in the book, he wasn't to impressed with Aldrin during the Gemini program.

I didn't want to give away too much, but yeah, I picked that up. It was refreshing to read about those men the way they really were, not the sanitized version NASA put out at the time.

[skepticalcriticalguy]

http://www.panoramas.dk/moon/apollo-17-2.html

Enjoy

And care of some fine work at the BAUT forum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khDI2MsWSYc

If the first two minutes dont fire you up... Then it is time to call a coronor :)

Nice panorama. I know a 14 year old kid who can make those on his computer.

[skepticalcriticalguy]

Kidding around.

[Larry Lovage]

Hey, you know what I hate about Bart Sibrel? He's actually met each and every one of my heroes!!!

I shook hands with Al Shepard once, close as I ever came. My god, he even talked to the astronaut's astronaut, John Young!

F[rule8]er! What a wasted opportunity.

Never having seen it before, by the way, I can see clearly why Aldrin punched him and why it was deemed inactionable. Right there in public, Sibrel shouts "You are a coward and a liar", and quite rightly Aldrin clocked him one.

(Incidentally, I also love that he also got short shrift from chief "woo-woo astronaut", Ed Mitchell! :D)

[Dr. Lao]

The Soviets put a couple rovers on the moon, and even had a craft land and return to earth with some rock samples.

But, they never could get their N1 rocket to work, they didn't have the tech to make big engines so they made several little engines and it was too much to get controlled.

It was a cool looking rocket though.

[CptColumbo]

Hey, you know what I hate about Bart Sibrel? He's actually met each and every one of my heroes!!!

I shook hands with Al Shepard once, close as I ever came. My god, he even talked to the astronaut's astronaut, John Young!

F[rule8]er! What a wasted opportunity.

Never having seen it before, by the way, I can see clearly why Aldrin punched him and why it was deemed inactionable. Right there in public, Sibrel shouts "You are a coward and a liar", and quite rightly Aldrin clocked him one.

(Incidentally, I also love that he also got short shrift from chief "woo-woo astronaut", Ed Mitchell! :D)

Here's a highlight reel of Bart and the Apollo astronauts:
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Mitchell's response is one of my favorites.

[Larry Lovage]

Er, yes, Captain, I was responding to Rawkarma's posting of that exact video, sorry if I didn't make that clear.

[MG1962]

Never having seen it before, by the way, I can see clearly why Aldrin punched him and why it was deemed inactionable. Right there in public, Sibrel shouts "You are a coward and a liar", and quite rightly Aldrin clocked him one.



Yeah it was a pretty brave move. Aldrin (Moonshot aside) Is a very proud miltary man, reaching the rank of Colonel. Flew over 80 combat missions in Korea. And I have a feeling he did some test pilot work aftewards. Hardly the person to call a coward under any circumstances